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At what point is a player considered adequate?

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Riince wrote:

a good 40% of the top 10k are hackers or multi-accounts so
lmao,at least 50% of top 100 is cheating
cheezstik
It is all subjective and opinion etc. etc. especially how you use the word adequate (adequate to / for what? For OWC? For showing off?) or good.

In my opinion, around 5000pp is when someone starts to be good enough to be worthy of the label "good".



A lot of people (including me at one point) are impressed by, aspire for and will be happy enough upon reaching a 4 digit rank (~3000pp), which is understandable, but many people (also including me) get here and realize, "oh wait, hang on, I'm still shit at the game".
Yuudachi-kun
4 digit rank is actually ~3200pp now just like 5000pp is ~1300.

I'll impress you one of these days, Cheezstik-tan.
E m i
I can appreciate people who don't play 'exclusively' anything, instead aiming for a balanced skillset.
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[ Momiji ] wrote:

I can appreciate people who don't play 'exclusively' anything, instead aiming for a balanced skillset.
I hate show-off people :roll:
cheezstik

Kheldragar wrote:

4 digit rank is actually ~3200pp now just like 5000pp is ~1300.

I'll impress you one of these days, Cheezstik-tan.
Hey now, I said good, not impressive ;). You'd have to do shit like 600pp dragonforce plays, rrtyui plays, or millhioref ez / ekoro ezhdfl plays to impress me.
Yuudachi-kun
I'll impress you one of these days, Cheezstik-tan.
Vuelo Eluko
ive come to the conclusion that i have clinical insanity
i keep practicing even though it does nothing
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Riince wrote:

ive come to the conclusion that i have clinical insanity
i keep practicing even though it does nothing
enjoy game plz,you will improve by only playing
Mahogany

[ Momiji ] wrote:

I can appreciate people who don't play 'exclusively' anything, instead aiming for a balanced skillset.
Balanced is good but mods give a lot of PP AFAIK at low ranks because of increased OD it encourages mod farming and if you do that too much, well...look at riince's top plays.
E m i
yep, one day you'll just instantly get better,
like +0.4 stars, +20bpm or something like that

Mahoganytooth wrote:

Balanced is good but mods give a lot of PP AFAIK at low ranks because of increased OD it encourages mod farming and if you do that too much, well...look at riince's top plays.
i don't understand how is this a problem, usually people gain more respect for DT as it fills their top ranks ;) ;) ;)
Vuelo Eluko

Mahoganytooth wrote:

[ Momiji ] wrote:

I can appreciate people who don't play 'exclusively' anything, instead aiming for a balanced skillset.
Balanced is good but mods give a lot of PP AFAIK at low ranks because of increased OD it encourages mod farming and if you do that too much, well...look at riince's top plays.
i actually have some modless plays there's literally thousands of other people that have nothing but dt you could have pointed out but you had to put me on blast of course nice

i think i understand why people multi-account now
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Popolittz
At my skill level where I am on insanes, not just my PP but thr songs I've beat. Would it be fair to label my self as finally starting tobunderstand what the hell im doing? XD


Because when that german was talking about variance (forgot their username >. <) it was kinda answering the question i had. Since it does not seem PP alone could determine a good player (although it is a good baseline to go off of)
Yuudachi-kun
Riince, learn HR; it's better and harder than DT.
gregest
"balanced skillset" that's what Mahong doesn't have and never had
Vuelo Eluko

Kheldragar wrote:

Riince, learn HR; it's better and harder than DT.
ar10 is really unpleasant to play tbh
Topic Starter
Popolittz

CptBlackBird wrote:

"balanced skillset" that's what Mahong doesn't have and never had


Real talk, mahogany is a cyborg. No real person has that kinda acc.
-Makishima S-
Let me give you one question:

How big is diffrence betwin player who farm big amount of pp via playing Hard+DT and players who farm pp via playing Insane/Extra modless/HR/HD?
If this diffrence is big, do you take this into your pp calculation?

It's just my personal curiosity becouse i cannot play DT/NC (reason might be stupid for you but idc) but HDHR is in my list to work with.
Vuelo Eluko
HR players are just as pigeonholed and crappy as DT players
-Makishima S-

Riince wrote:

HR players are just as pigeonholed and crappy as DT players
And DT/NC players don't know what is good music taste if you prefer to listen distorted shit... i respect every DT/NC player but you actualy didn't gave me proper answer. Maybe more deep and technical explanation?
Topic Starter
Popolittz
Lets all just take a moment to calm down and accept _index as our HR lord
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Popolittz wrote:

CptBlackBird wrote:

"balanced skillset" that's what Mahong doesn't have and never had


Real talk, mahogany is a cyborg. No real person has that kinda acc.
this is osu,acc is not important,aim is the most important thing in this game
Vuelo Eluko
and _index currently has the second best aim of any non-banned player
Topic Starter
Popolittz
Legit confusion. What is the difference between aim and accuracy
E m i
aim = how accurately you can pinpoint the circles with your cursor
accuracy = how accurately in time you tap to the rhythm
-Makishima S-

Popolittz wrote:

Legit confusion. What is the difference between aim and accuracy
Aim - aiming into circle
Accuracy - proper timing in clicking circle
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Popolittz
How do you calculate somones aim

Edit: i meant aim not acc
Noobsicle
hit accuracy on profile

scanning through their accuracy on their top ranked scores

e: scanning through their top ranked scores and seeing if they're the only ones with hr fcs on cs5+ maps
(e.g https://osu.ppy.sh/b/680394?m=0 , or just any fc on a map where the rest of the scoreboard are full of misses and A/B ranks)
also through live streams + uploaded replays on youtube etc

welp that's the criteria for god-tier aim but you get what i mean

aisakatayga wrote:

How big is diffrence betwin player who farm big amount of pp via playing Hard+DT and players who farm pp via playing Insane/Extra modless/HR/HD?
If this diffrence is big, do you take this into your pp calculation?
since there aren't any specifics, insane/extra + nomod/hr/hd/hdhr > hard+dt
Mahogany

CptBlackBird wrote:

this is osu,acc is not important,aim is the most important thing in this game
but acc-erino giverino mucherino pp-erino and points-erino

CptBlackBird wrote:

"balanced skillset" that's what Mahong doesn't have and never had
Working on it, don't worry

Popolittz wrote:

CptBlackBird wrote:

"balanced skillset" that's what Mahong doesn't have and never had
Real talk, mahogany is a cyborg. No real person has that kinda acc.
Thanks <3

[ Momiji ] wrote:

Mahoganytooth wrote:

Balanced is good but mods give a lot of PP AFAIK at low ranks because of increased OD it encourages mod farming and if you do that too much, well...look at riince's top plays.
i don't understand how is this a problem, usually people gain more respect for DT as it fills their top ranks ;) ;) ;)
Respek for DT is only when you're DTing Insanes instead of Hards

Riince wrote:

i actually have some modless plays there's literally thousands of other people that have nothing but dt you could have pointed out but you had to put me on blast of course nice

i think i understand why people multi-account now
I've made fun of you before but you didn't seem to take offense so I didn't think you'd mind.

I'll stop being a meanie now :?
Yuudachi-kun
Everyone who HR's insanes to 98%+ od10 is godly to me.

DT is just hurr I can go fast on hards and easy insanes,
ZenithPhantasm
HR=Skills
DT=Sanic
HRDT=Penguin
Endaris
A player is never considered adequate.
Either he is really good or he isn't but there isn't a point where you could say someone plays adequately. There's no measure for it.
E m i

Kheldragar wrote:

Everyone who HR's insanes to 98%+ od10 is godly to me.

DT is just hurr I can go fast on hards and easy insanes,
try farming PP out of 240-300bpm hards instead of 180-228bpm 'insanes' and tell me how it goes
B1rd
hards are hard.
Yuudachi-kun

[ Momiji ] wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Everyone who HR's insanes to 98%+ od10 is godly to me.

DT is just hurr I can go fast on hards and easy insanes,
try farming PP out of 240-300bpm hards instead of 180-228bpm 'insanes' and tell me how it goes
Gotta go fast 8-)
-Makishima S-
Be like index, HR Last Jurney 8-)
otoed1
When your sub 10k.
7ambda

Kouya- wrote:

Popolittz wrote:

10,001 - 800,000 get better skrub?
DT farming scrub. Jk, don't hurt me.
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