Shiena Nishizawa - Meaning · forum

domSaur

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domSaur 2015-04-27T11:39:13+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, April 04, 2018 at 6:44:18 PM

Artist: Shiena Nishizawa
Title: Meaning
Tags: 艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- kantai collection kancolle 吹雪 FUBUKI [-AKiTOSHi-] Teru21 baraatje123
BPM: 190
Filesize: 6403kb
Play Time: 02:06
Difficulties Available:

-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal (2.17 stars, 206 notes)
Baraatje123's Hard (3.49 stars, 331 notes)
sunog 2018 (5.28 stars, 488 notes)
sunog (5.15 stars, 364 notes)
Teru's Easy (1.56 stars, 128 notes)
True Meaning (4.79 stars, 486 notes)

Download: Shiena Nishizawa - Meaning
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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~~fuck this shit i give up..~~
owo

Easy by Teru21

Normal by Master [-AKiTOSHi-]

Hard by Baraatje123

True Meaning by some guy

Last edited by domSaur 2018-04-04T10:45:48+00:00, edited 86 times in total.

Bara-

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Bara- 2015-06-20T16:18:34+00:00

Why did you ask for mu timing?
It seems pretty good
Oh, if you still need a Hard GD, I can make it, I like the map, it has potential
If you're aiming ranked and still need a Hard, I can make one (No Hards was an old rule, I feel quite comfortable mapping Hards now)

-SayaKai

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Joined October 2014

-SayaKai 2015-06-20T16:25:29+00:00

Sounds good.

domSaur

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domSaur 2015-06-20T16:33:38+00:00

baraatje123 wrote:
Why did you ask for mu timing?
It seems pretty good
Oh, if you still need a Hard GD, I can make it, I like the map, it has potential
If you're aiming ranked and still need a Hard, I can make one (No Hards was an old rule, I feel quite comfortable mapping Hards now)

the guy who did the Easy asked me to look for timing check(i think he told me it was too fast smth(lol))

and if you can yes pls. /o/

Teru21

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Joined September 2011

Teru21 2015-06-22T12:15:06+00:00

waa ;; I didn't know you follow my offset waahahhaha welp ;; I got something to fix abit on my diff ;;

this is the diff https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8hmtq699tbmv ... D.osu?dl=0

oh and I remodified abit the slidertick ;; so please put this inside too https://www.dropbox.com/s/wodqzb80r1jk1 ... 2.wav?dl=0

tyy

domSaur

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domSaur 2015-06-22T12:38:22+00:00

Teru21 wrote:
waa ;; I didn't know you follow my offset waahahhaha welp ;; I got something to fix abit on my diff ;;

this is the diff https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8hmtq699tbmv ... D.osu?dl=0

oh and I remodified abit the slidertick ;; so please put this inside too https://www.dropbox.com/s/wodqzb80r1jk1 ... 2.wav?dl=0

tyy

updated... was also wondering why did you use a diff hitsound sampleset and some of the claps are on the red ticks.

Teru21

746 posts

Joined September 2011

Teru21 2015-06-22T18:30:44+00:00

domSaur wrote:
updated... was also wondering why did you use a diff hitsound sampleset and some of the claps are on the red ticks.

cause I like it wahahahha ;; I like that soft hit finish sample set ;; I think its really nice ;;;;; and the claps on red ticks are intentional ;; its awesome ;DD

domSaur

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domSaur 2015-06-22T18:55:03+00:00

Teru21 wrote:
cause I like it wahahahha ;; I like that soft hit finish sample set ;; I think its really nice ;;;;; and the claps on red ticks are intentional ;; its awesome ;DD

you actually used normal. and the claps(the ones on the red ticks as well as the sliderticks) is kinda throwing me off... it ended up being rly different with the rest of the set but i'll just leave it to the modders instead.

Bara-

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Bara- 2015-06-23T11:59:35+00:00

Andddd
My diff is done
HOORAYY!!
Baraatje123's Hard

SPOILER

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domSaur

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Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-23T12:47:20+00:00

updated. ready for modding..

baraatje123 wrote:

Andddd
My diff is done
HOORAYY!!
Baraatje123's Hard

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and maybe can i ask you to redo some of the hitsounding..

i think you kinda overused the soft-finish(i originally just use it to highlight the start of stanzas and other strong points) as well as the soft-finish2(i just kinda used it for that one note specifically)..

altho i might need to look for a new finish that can be used more(im not quite used to hitsounding yet).

Bara-

11,955 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-06-23T12:52:26+00:00

Really?
Wow, and I already thought my hitsounding here was too little >.<
I'll consider changing it when multiple modders say so (as I really think it fits the song)
Fun fact, in 2 tries, I already FC'd it with DT xD

wariostarx

18 posts

Joined March 2015

wariostarx 2015-06-23T15:30:29+00:00

Heyy, I did some little (idd little) modding.
I didn't fell like shortening it today (sorry

), so here is just the whole file XD

-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal

I changed some places of some hit-objects and sliders to make them fit a bit better to the rhythm.

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Meaning.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43222
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 2327,78275,101327,102906
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.250003

[Metadata]
Title:Meaning
TitleUnicode:Meaning
Artist:Shiena Nishizawa
ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:domSaur
Version:-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal
Source:
Tags:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- kantai collection kancolle 吹雪 FUBUKI [-AKiTOSHi-] Teru21 baraatje123
BeatmapID:722716
BeatmapSetID:307307

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:0.999999999999999
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"meaning.png",0,0
//Break Periods
2,74169,77089
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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605,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
13236,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
23341,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
33447,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
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104183,-100,4,2,1,60,0,1
123131,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
126762,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0


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Combo1 : 241,99,99
Combo2 : 211,44,48
Combo3 : 237,145,5

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Baraatje123's Hard

Here I only added 2 hit-objects, you should think if you want to keep them.

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43222
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
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[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Meaning
TitleUnicode:Meaning
Artist:Shiena Nishizawa
ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:domSaur
Version:Baraatje123's Hard
Source:
Tags:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- kantai collection kancolle 吹雪 FUBUKI [-AKiTOSHi-] Teru21 baraatje123
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[Difficulty]
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I think Easy is already good this way and I'm not so good in insane maps, so I didn't really look into "true meaning"

hope you have something with these little changes

- wsx

domSaur

1,263 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-23T15:35:23+00:00

wariostarx wrote:

Heyy, I did some little (idd little) modding.
I didn't fell like shortening it today (sorry

), so here is just the whole file XD

-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal

I changed some places of some hit-objects and sliders to make them fit a bit better to the rhythm.

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Meaning.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43222
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 2327,78275,101327,102906
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.250003

[Metadata]
Title:Meaning
TitleUnicode:Meaning
Artist:Shiena Nishizawa
ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:domSaur
Version:-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal
Source:
Tags:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- kantai collection kancolle 吹雪 FUBUKI [-AKiTOSHi-] Teru21 baraatje123
BeatmapID:722716
BeatmapSetID:307307

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:0.999999999999999
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"meaning.png",0,0
//Break Periods
2,74169,77089
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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605,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
13236,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
23341,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
33447,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
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104183,-100,4,2,1,60,0,1
123131,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
126762,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0


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Combo1 : 241,99,99
Combo2 : 211,44,48
Combo3 : 237,145,5

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Baraatje123's Hard

Here I only added 2 hit-objects, you should think if you want to keep them.

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Meaning.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43222
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 2327,78275,101327,102906
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.250003

[Metadata]
Title:Meaning
TitleUnicode:Meaning
Artist:Shiena Nishizawa
ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:domSaur
Version:Baraatje123's Hard
Source:
Tags:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- kantai collection kancolle 吹雪 FUBUKI [-AKiTOSHi-] Teru21 baraatje123
BeatmapID:722717
BeatmapSetID:307307

[Difficulty]
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SliderTickRate:2

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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I think Easy is already good this way and I'm not so good in insane maps, so I didn't really look into "true meaning"

hope you have something with these little changes

- wsx

well, how will i know the stuff you changed, things you wanna point etc? :s

wariostarx

18 posts

Joined March 2015

wariostarx 2015-06-23T16:51:49+00:00

sorry for last reaction, i know, it was messy;

Normal

I made moved some sliders [00:03:131->00:07:868] so they feel a bit better to the rhythm (i think)
(I linked the screenshot because they are to large for the post window)
http://puu.sh/izRSe/f0507da78b.jpg // http://puu.sh/izRWc/4dac0d47ff.jpg
I did that also from [01:46:394->01:48:920]
http://puu.sh/izRD8/da5be5f8ae.jpg

Hard

Here I added only 3 hit-objects,
http://puu.sh/izScv/4bccf8dea3.jpg // http://puu.sh/izShb/f3cda8cd4e.jpg // http://puu.sh/izSj7/7996eae5b6.jpg

Again, sorry for messy post last time, hope you have something with these little changes,
-wsx

domSaur

1,263 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-23T17:38:27+00:00

wariostarx wrote:
sorry for last reaction, i know, it was messy;
Normal
I made moved some sliders [00:03:131->00:07:868] so they feel a bit better to the rhythm (i think)
(I linked the screenshot because they are to large for the post window)
http://puu.sh/izRSe/f0507da78b.jpg // http://puu.sh/izRWc/4dac0d47ff.jpg
I did that also from [01:46:394->01:48:920]
http://puu.sh/izRD8/da5be5f8ae.jpg
Hard
Here I added only 3 hit-objects,
http://puu.sh/izScv/4bccf8dea3.jpg // http://puu.sh/izShb/f3cda8cd4e.jpg // http://puu.sh/izSj7/7996eae5b6.jpg
Again, sorry for messy post last time, hope you have something with these little changes,
-wsx

at the normal, it was mapped to the vocal so i don't see anything wrong with it, but i did made some changes in the placement in the playfield based on what you've shown so thanks anyway..

will wait for what the mapper on the hard has to say.

Bara-

11,955 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-06-23T18:10:29+00:00

No change in hard for me
I intentionally left them out for better following of the vocals

Kuey

52 posts

Joined November 2014

Kuey 2015-06-26T01:54:07+00:00

from #modreq
baraatje123' hard
00:43:552 (1) - suggest take off finish
01:13:393 (2) - have slider end near 01:13:868 (1) - maybe?

http://puu.sh/iCUUb/7bb08b085f.jpg

01:44:183 (1) - suggest take off finish
01:49:236 (1) - ^

Also i love the song!!

Bara-

11,955 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-06-26T11:22:16+00:00

Kuey wrote:
from #modreq
baraatje123' hard
00:43:552 (1) - suggest take off finish I really like this, it is an epic sound and works well for the start of the kiai and all those other similar parts
01:13:393 (2) - have slider end near 01:13:868 (1) - maybe? Sure, oh, for the next time, when you post an image, use the img tags. It'll look this this when typing
[img]http://puu.sh/iCUUb/7bb08b085f.jpg[/img]
This way, we can already see what you mean instead of opening the link
http://puu.sh/iCUUb/7bb08b085f.jpg
01:44:183 (1) - suggest take off finish I really like this, it is an epic sound and works well for the start of the kiai and all those other similar parts

01:49:236 (1) - ^ ^^

Also i love the song!!

Thanks!!
Also changes some of those finishes in the non-kiai parts and such

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domSaur

1,263 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-26T12:13:06+00:00

imo you should've removed those finishes(and use the soft-finish which i intended for marking certain stanzas. we'll be into some problem about hitsound inconsistency tbh)

anyways. updated.

Bara-

11,955 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-06-26T14:56:24+00:00

There will be no problem as it's a GD; it's made by other people
We can even use different Kiai/combo colours

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2015-06-27T10:24:21+00:00

Hello!

[Baratjee123's Hard]
00:18:289 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This doesn't make any sense because there is no consistent 1-2-1-2 beat here.
00:32:499 (6) - Messes with the flow.Consider changing the shape here.
I have no real issue with this diff. but you should avoid copy pasting in a 2 minute map . I know the beats repeat in the chorus but you can change up the patterns instead of copy pasting and flipping them.
The hitsounds are good and blankets are pretty much perfect here.

[True Meaning]
00:01:078 (1) - No need for NC here
00:01:868 (1) - Make it a half slider because the stream starts at the red tick not on the white
00:04:552 (4,6) - Blanket this
00:09:131 (3,4) - Avoid overlapping as much as possible
00:12:131 (7) - NC
00:13:236 (12) - This is not a triple because theres no beat/sound on the blue tick.
00:33:920 (1) - No need for NC
00:35:973 (2) - NC here instead
00:38:183 (1) - ^
00:39:920 (1) - ^
00:41:657 (1) - ^
00:44:815 (1) - No need for NC
00:53:026 (9) - Stream starts on the white tick not the the red. The stream should be a NC
01:13:394 (5,6,7) - Use quarter sliders or a stream here for emphasis. This feels kinda stagnant
01:18:289 (1) - Again , stream starts on the white tick not the red tick. You can use a reverse arrow slider instead of just streams as well.
01:41:026 (1) - NC here
01:41:341 (1) - No need for NC here
01:41:657 (1) - NC here instead
01:42:920 (1) - NC here
01:43:868 (6) - No need for NC
01:45:131 (1,2) - NC on the 2nd slider instead of the first
02:02:341 (1) - NC here
You've mapped well but you need to hitsound more of the map because as of now it feels boring to play the non-kiai parts.

As for the NC , a general rule of thumb is that you should NC on the big white ticks / alternate big white tick if you feel they are too small.

OR

You could NC everytime you decide to change up the patterns

OR

NC during a change in the verse.

domSaur

1,263 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-27T11:06:25+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
[True Meaning]
00:01:078 (1) - No need for NC here i've put an NC here since i feel like the drums looped here. but i've removed it anyways
00:01:868 (1) - Make it a half slider because the stream starts at the red tick not on the white did i do it right?
00:04:552 (4,6) - Blanket this i've copypasted 00:03:131 (1) - instead. will change if i can think of something more brilliant
00:09:131 (3,4) - Avoid overlapping as much as possible
00:12:131 (7) - NC nc'ed on 00:12:605 (10) - instead since what you've pointed out was still attached to the song
00:13:236 (12) - This is not a triple because theres no beat/sound on the blue tick. switched to a note. temporary until i can think of a better transition
00:33:920 (1) - No need for NC well sht i forgot. it was copypasted xd
00:35:973 (2) - NC here instead
00:38:183 (1) - ^
00:39:920 (1) - ^
00:41:657 (1) - ^
00:44:815 (1) - No need for NC keeping this.
00:53:026 (9) - Stream starts on the white tick not the the red. The stream should be a NC
01:13:394 (5,6,7) - Use quarter sliders or a stream here for emphasis. This feels kinda stagnant this used to be a stream but i removed it for some reason. can you explain this a bit.
01:18:289 (1) - Again , stream starts on the white tick not the red tick. You can use a reverse arrow slider instead of just streams as well. i kinda didn't follow this properly (i'm too stupid. a bit more explanation plz ;w;)
01:41:026 (1) - NC here
01:41:341 (1) - No need for NC here
01:41:657 (1) - NC here instead
01:42:920 (1) - NC here
01:43:868 (6) - No need for NC
01:45:131 (1,2) - NC on the 2nd slider instead of the first
02:02:341 (1) - NC here
You've mapped well but you need to hitsound more of the map because as of now it feels boring to play the non-kiai parts.

As for the NC , a general rule of thumb is that you should NC on the big white ticks / alternate big white tick if you feel they are too small.

OR

You could NC everytime you decide to change up the patterns

OR

NC during a change in the verse.

everything w/o replies was fixed w/o questions.. i'll think of alternatives to the stuff you pointed out that i can't seem to grasp in some time.

will update after the mods in hard were applied. thanks o/

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2015-06-27T17:58:33+00:00

~~Give me kds~~I'm noob modder ayy

[Teru's Easy]
00:06:920 (2) - x:28 y:160 ??
00:50:499 (1) - not symmetrical 00:49:868 (3) -
01:47:341 (2) - ^
01:51:447 (1,2) - I dunno it's just only me, it's too confusing pattern for newbs
add extra note on 02:02:973 -
then Start spinner on 02:03:131 -

[Baraatje123's Hard]
AR = 8?? (it's more suitable with 190bpm)
00:53:026 (8) - NC
01:02:499 (1) - make it 1/2 then add note on 01:02:815 - (Listen to the Elec. guitar)
01:33:131 (5) - This is very good blanket with 01:32:657 (4) - but I think you missing the beat of drums...
01:33:131 - up to 01:33:920 - it was 1/2 beat (ignore if mapped based on vocal)
01:45:605 (6) - remove Clap sound in reverse arrow..maybe??

[True Meaning]
00:12:605 (10) - NC (You know I love this kind of mod ayy)
00:21:447 (7) - how about make it symmetrical with 00:21:131 (6) -
00:31:078 (3) - make it lower to avoid stacking...maybe?
01:48:605 (1,2) - no 1/4??
02:02:341 (5,6,7) - how about NC them all kek

I gonna re-map my diff lol

domSaur

1,263 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-27T18:34:11+00:00

[-AKiTOSHi-] wrote:
~~Give me kds~~
[True Meaning]
00:12:605 (10) - NC (You know I love this kind of mod ayy) i already did as mentioned above.. i just haven't updated kek
00:21:447 (7) - how about make it symmetrical with 00:21:131 (6) - not sure what do you mean by symmetrical but nothing fixed
00:31:078 (3) - make it lower to avoid stacking...maybe? formed it with the rest in a triangle
01:48:605 (1,2) - no 1/4?? wat?
02:02:341 (5,6,7) - how about NC them all kek nein

ok, i think i'll update now since 2 mods on my diff were already done

Teru21

746 posts

Joined September 2011

Teru21 2015-06-27T23:21:47+00:00

[-AKiTOSHi-] wrote:
[Teru's Easy]
00:06:920 (2) - x:28 y:160 ?? nope, sorry, I want it to stack on 00:04:394 (2) - so it'll look tidier
00:50:499 (1) - not symmetrical 00:49:868 (3) - definitely symmetric cause I simply copy paste it wahahah but resnap it ;; cause its not snapped properly
01:47:341 (2) - ^ ^
01:51:447 (1,2) - I dunno it's just only me, it's too confusing pattern for newbs let them learn >:3
add extra note on 02:02:973 - lol nope sorry, it won't be easy later ._. making easy is to make it simple yet interesting to play, adding a note that is not considered easy anymore wahahhaha
then Start spinner on 02:03:131 - ^

tyy

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Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2015-06-28T04:15:04+00:00

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domSaur

1,263 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-28T04:17:50+00:00

Teru21 wrote:
01:51:447 (1,2) - I dunno it's just only me, it's too confusing pattern for newbs let them learn >:3

what kind of a reason is that? generally, overlaps at Easy are a no-no but whatever(it's your diff anyway).. if they gotta learn they'd better be off playing the harder diffs instead.

Teru21

746 posts

Joined September 2011

Teru21 2015-06-28T08:26:45+00:00

domSaur wrote:
Teru21 wrote:
01:51:447 (1,2) - I dunno it's just only me, it's too confusing pattern for newbs let them learn >:3
what kind of a reason is that? generally, overlaps at Easy are a no-no but whatever(it's your diff anyway).. if they gotta learn they'd better be off playing the harder diffs instead.

ay sir :3 please stop complaining about other people's difficulty let the modder mod it ;; and think about it

its just a plain intention to make the difficulty more interesting. and its not like I make overlaps at everything, its just some of it o3o its my mapping style anyway

and Guest diff can do what they want in their difficulty, kiai or hitsound. anything except the song data etc. xDD

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2015-06-28T10:22:20+00:00

01:13:394 (5,6,7) - I meant that you should use 1/4 sliders here since this is an Insane diff after all
01:18:289 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3314055 Do this

Bara-

11,955 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-06-28T14:13:45+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
Hello!

[Baratjee123's Hard]
00:18:289 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This doesn't make any sense because there is no consistent 1-2-1-2 beat here. Well, there is, the sound is a repetetive 1-2 sound (as you call it)
00:32:499 (6) - Messes with the flow.Consider changing the shape here. Uhm wut? Sldiers as these are great, the circular flow here is actuallyquite present and well-made (IMO)
I have no real issue with this diff. but you should avoid copy pasting in a 2 minute map . I know the beats repeat in the chorus but you can change up the patterns instead of copy pasting and flipping them.
The hitsounds are good and blankets are pretty much perfect here.

[-AKiTOSHi-] wrote:
~~Give me kds~~I'm noob modder ayy

[Baraatje123's Hard]
AR = 8?? (it's more suitable with 190bpm) 7,5 is way better to follow the spread better
00:53:026 (8) - NC Breaks the consistency (a NC every 8 beats)
01:02:499 (1) - make it 1/2 then add note on 01:02:815 - (Listen to the Elec. guitar) Following the drums here
01:33:131 (5) - This is very good blanket with 01:32:657 (4) - but I think you missing the beat of drums... Following Vocals
01:33:131 - up to 01:33:920 - it was 1/2 beat (ignore if mapped based on vocal) Yep, I mostly map the vocals
01:45:605 (6) - remove Clap sound in reverse arrow..maybe?? IT's kinda intended (as it's a little off-beat (due to following vocals), this way it'll feel nicerIMO)

Thanks, even though I didn't fix anything, sorry
I'm really critical when it comes down to applying mods as aesthetics/blankets/hitsounds are pretty important to me

domSaur

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Topic Starter

domSaur 2015-06-28T15:14:02+00:00

Teru21 wrote:
ay sir :3 please stop complaining about other people's difficulty let the modder mod it ;; and think about it
its just a plain intention to make the difficulty more interesting. and its not like I make overlaps at everything, its just some of it o3o its my mapping style anyway

and Guest diff can do what they want in their difficulty, kiai or hitsound. anything except the song data etc. xDD

well, if that's it then sure. pardon me i'm a pretty obnoxious fuck ;w;

Rohit6 wrote:
01:13:394 (5,6,7) - I meant that you should use 1/4 sliders here since this is an Insane diff after alldunno if what i did made it better(or actually correct) but fk it.
01:18:289 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3314055 Do this decided to just remove the streams and replace the entire thing with a 1/4 and 1/6 kick slider. will think of something else soon

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Ipas 2015-06-29T06:31:50+00:00

Hello from my Queue~
I'm sorry if it doesn't even help you and you can't understand what I write >.<

[~General~]

Uncheck Widescreen Support since you don't have storyboard
Inconsistency of combo colour on True Meaning diff
Consider to Uncheck Enable Countdown . I don't know but your map will be looks like an old map imo
Move " 艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- " to source since the song is from Kantai Collection
What is " FUBUKI " refers to? If nothing please delete it from Tags

[Teru's Easy]

AR > 3 , please?
00:20:815 (1,1) - For an Easy, its a hard transition . I prefer you to avoid that kind of flow . The pattern seems hard too because the BPM was high . I would use this kind of pattern instead ~ Image starts from 00:21:605 - ~ . I think this pattern exist too in somewhere at this diff . I hope you can realize it
SPOILER
00:33:447 (1) - If I was you I'll avoid this reverse slider that reversed more than one time . Some players will got confused find this slider, just like me . I think this pattern exist too in somewhere at this diff . I hope you can realize it
01:32:815 (1,1) - I would avoid this overlap . Its kinda hard to detect by beginners because 01:34:078 (1) - covered by previous note imo . Yeah, I know it doesn't too much but I prefer you to change it
01:32:815 (1) - Remove NC, its unnecessary
01:45:447 (1) - It starts awkwardly because the previous section is empty, which is better to be emphasized *or it must be since the vocal and beats is strong enugh* . I know you want to avoid the unrankable issue . I'd rather to end the spinner on 01:42:920 - since it fits for me . Then you can map 01:44:183 - easily without fear of the inappropriate thing
02:02:973 - Remove the kiai from this section . This section doesn't need kiai anymore

[-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal]

Need hitsound mod . I can't do it for you, sorry
01:56:657 (1) - It place at the wrong place . 01:56:815 - must be emphasized, so It must be like this pattern for better emphasis ~ Image starts from 01:56:499 (4) - ~
SPOILER

[Baraatje123's Hard]

00:18:289 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too much circles for me x_x Consider to replace some by sliders
00:32:026 (5,6) - Suddenly change the DS from 1.20x to 0.87x will makes some advanced players think that this is a 3/4 slider imo . Please fix this DS problem
01:24:762 (4) - Almost touching HP bar . Move it a bit lower may help you . If you move it lower, don't forget to move 01:24:289 (3) - too since it's blanket-ed to 01:24:762 (4) -
01:38:341 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Suddenly change the DS after a bit big DS may cause some problems imo . I'd rather to keep the consistency at here since there's no reason to put it on lower DS
01:45:605 (6) - Remove all clap on this note, it doesn't emphasize any sound/beat imo
02:01:868 (1) - The hitsound is too loud . It bothers the vocal from the song . Consider to reduce the volume a bit
I love your sliders~

[True Meaning]

00:01:868 (1) - First sight, it looks like 1/4 slider . After played the song at the Editor, it's a note that has been lowered its SV . To avoid any misunderstanding like me, just keep the SV consistent . Its affect on 00:02:815 (11) - too
00:48:051 (2,4) - Delete . Overmap
00:53:026 (9) - Start the stream from here . It its better since the drum sounds starts from here too
01:03:052 (4) - Delete too . Overmap
01:13:078 (4,5) - Too close . Maybe some people think that this is 1/3 pattern . Move (5) further away may helps you with this suggestion
01:29:657 (3,4) - The overlap and the transition between these two notes looks bad . (3) directed to the right side while the next note appears on the left side
01:30:605 (6,7) - ^
01:31:552 (2,4) - Almost overlapped bad . Move (2) a bit higher
01:33:762 (5,1) - Nah, this time you did it well . Maybe you fix the previous problem by replacing them with this kind of flow
Maybe there's many of overmapped notes >.< Idk, but I just feels it like

[]

Good Luck~

domSaur

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domSaur 2015-06-29T07:56:56+00:00

NewIpas wrote:
Hello from my Queue~
I'm sorry if it doesn't even help you and you can't understand what I write >.<

[~General~]
Uncheck Widescreen Support since you don't have storyboard
Inconsistency of combo colour on True Meaning diff one my GD'ers said it was fine. the others will just reorder and add a 4th combo color
Consider to Uncheck Enable Countdown . I don't know but your map will be looks like an old map imo fixed. it never ticked in so i didn't notice it
Move " 艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- " to source since the song is from Kantai Collection refer here https://osu.ppy.sh/s/302054 the song was not heard in the anime so i can't put it there. it just happens to be co-track in the ED single.
What is " FUBUKI " refers to? If nothing please delete it from Tags also refer above. it was Track 2 from the FUBUKI single so yea
[True Meaning]
00:01:868 (1) - First sight, it looks like 1/4 slider . After played the song at the Editor, it's a note that has been lowered its SV . To avoid any misunderstanding like me, just keep the SV consistent .this was originally a 1/1 slider with lowered sv but ye. fixed Its affect on 00:02:815 (11) - too no i think this one's fine. it was to accentuate the buildup of the song
00:48:051 (2,4) - Delete . Overmap fixed
00:53:026 (9) - Start the stream from here . It its better since the drum sounds starts from here too turned it into a kickslider until i can think of smth brilliant. i just don't wanna have a long stream
01:03:052 (4) - Delete too . Overmap fixed. redid the streams
01:13:078 (4,5) - Too close . Maybe some people think that this is 1/3 pattern . Move (5) further away may helps you with this suggestion how far exactly? ;w;
01:29:657 (3,4) - The overlap and the transition between these two notes looks bad . (3) directed to the right side while the next note appears on the left side (3) is just to symmetrize with 01:29:341 (2) - while (4) is to begin a new flow. but i'll take note
01:30:605 (6,7) - ^ ^
01:31:552 (2,4) - Almost overlapped bad . Move (2) a bit higher fixed
01:33:762 (5,1) - Nah, this time you did it well . Maybe you fix the previous problem by replacing them with this kind of flow
Maybe there's many of overmapped notes >.< Idk, but I just feels it like ikr
[]
Good Luck~

thanks o/ . To the GDers, just uncheck the countdown and widescreen support(and add the combo colors.... or not.)

will update once the mods on other diffs have been applied.

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2015-06-29T11:21:34+00:00

NewIpas wrote:
[-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal]
Need hitsound mod . I can't do it for you, sorry well i dunno about my clap but I sounded almost right imo
01:56:657 (1) - It place at the wrong place . 01:56:815 - must be emphasized, so It must be like this pattern for better emphasis ~ Image starts from 01:56:499 (4) - ~
SPOILER
mkay fixed

Thanks for the mod!

>> Changes here ↓

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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DistanceSpacing: 1.1
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GridSize: 4
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TitleUnicode:Meaning
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ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:domSaur
Version:-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal
Source:
Tags:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- kantai collection kancolle 吹雪 FUBUKI [-AKiTOSHi-] Teru21 baraatje123
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Teru21

746 posts

Joined September 2011

Teru21 2015-06-29T12:37:31+00:00

NewIpas wrote:
Hello from my Queue~
I'm sorry if it doesn't even help you and you can't understand what I write >.<
[Teru's Easy]
AR > 3 , please? oke
00:20:815 (1,1) - For an Easy, its a hard transition . I prefer you to avoid that kind of flow . The pattern seems hard too because the BPM was high . I would use this kind of pattern instead ~ Image starts from 00:21:605 - ~ . I think this pattern exist too in somewhere at this diff . I hope you can realize it nahh I'll consider it if other modder point out about this. since easy is not about all 1/1
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00:33:447 (1) - If I was you I'll avoid this reverse slider that reversed more than one time . Some players will got confused find this slider, just like me . I think this pattern exist too in somewhere at this diff . I hope you can realize it not really, Because of the change of mood on the song, it might not noticable, but you can just follow it by nature. 1 1/2 circle might be too hard imo and it seems unnatural. besides on the other part, the music is different, the first part its mellow, and the second part its more rock.
01:32:815 (1,1) - I would avoid this overlap . Its kinda hard to detect by beginners because 01:34:078 (1) - covered by previous note imo . Yeah, I know it doesn't too much but I prefer you to change it will look for a way to change it QQ ;;
01:32:815 (1) - Remove NC, its unnecessary aight
01:45:447 (1) - It starts awkwardly because the previous section is empty, which is better to be emphasized *or it must be since the vocal and beats is strong enugh* . I know you want to avoid the unrankable issue . I'd rather to end the spinner on 01:42:920 - since it fits for me . Then you can map 01:44:183 - easily without fear of the inappropriate thing hmm, I think the spinner fits well with the part you tell me to end the spinner, the bonus sound will perfectly fit with that part also, the 4/1 spinner might seem more awkward I guess ;; I mean it'd be too fast XD
02:02:973 - Remove the kiai from this section . This section doesn't need kiai anymore aiight

Thanks
actually one thing to add :O abit 1/2 won't hurt in this difficulty *never notice other diff* after I looked at it, the spread will fit enough with my a bit 1/2 beat

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Tags:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ- kantai collection kancolle 吹雪 FUBUKI [-AKiTOSHi-] Teru21 baraatje123
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DahplA

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DahplA 2015-06-30T10:57:40+00:00

Hi, DahplA here posting from Jloughman14's and DahplA's Modding Team. This is a response in regards to this request. Please be sure to vote here on how helpful our mod was.

Sorry for the late reply, lost some motivation recently :/

True Meaning

00:01:868 (1,2,3,4) - The flow is very unpolished here
00:34:394 (3) - This should have no more or no less spacing than 00:33:447 (1,2) -
00:43:552 (2) - NC to indicate change in SV
01:05:973 (6) - Slightly off-stacked
01:39:131 (1,2,1,2) - Same as 00:34:394 (3) -
01:42:447 How come you follow the vocals for the notes before hand, but ignore a note which should be here
01:50:183 (4,5) - You can use a 1/2 with reverse instead of this pattern

Baraatje123's Hard

00:56:183 (1,2) - If you're trying to line up the lines, then you're slightly off. Moving it right once with grid snap off works for me

-AKiTOSHi-'s Normal

All good, nothing I found

Teru's Easy

00:33:447 (1,1) - ~~You should avoid using more than 1 kick (reverse) on sliders in Easy. It catches new players off guard.~~ Hmm, you have a good reason, but it might still be something to consider
Nothing else...

Pretty nice mapset.

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