Excision & Pegboard Nerds - Bring The Madness (feat. Mayor A · forum

Nozhomi

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4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2016-01-22T16:48:02+00:00

M4M I guess, will try to look at more than Normal ^^'

- General :

So you know already than minimum SR for a set is 2*, so you have multiple solutions to fix that.
Add Hullahopp (and maybe Katty Pie if she wants) to the tags.
Wth is that bg dimmention ??? Close to a 16/9 but is not so, try to find same with correct resolution (or a better bg lol ?)

- Normal :

You have some distance spacing issues, like at 00:27:946 - your spacing change suddenly for ~1.2x for no reason. This kind of mistake must be fixed.
Better doing a global list here.
Check your blanket, you can do much better (some example : 00:22:429 (5,1) - / 00:25:877 (1,2,3) - / 01:05:877 (3,4) - ).
You often have a lack of construction in your diff, so it result with some aesthetic issues, like overlaps (example : 01:08:636 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,2) - ) who makes just the diff messy. Could be clean a little I think.
Overall your rhythm is ok, so just try to improve your patterns, and should be clean.

- HP's Hard :

Where are hitsounds ?
00:31:912 (2,3) - Hell jump of a Hard, and a straight flow here won't help. I prefer something like this but up to you : http://puu.sh/mFqaV/781aff5840.jpg .
00:43:291 (4) - wth is this slider ? Why a red anchor ? Why this when it kills your blanket ? OHQpidjfwoidjf
00:58:118 (5,1) - It's on purpose to not stack them ? Would be cool if they was.

- FCL's Insane :

ok

00:43:291 (5) - I would rotate it by 45° to make the flow more clean. Looks so break right now.
01:06:567 (5) - Can you CTRL+J it ? It'll works a lot better with that flow.
01:12:429 (7,1) - Plssssss blanket me this correctly, and avoid the baka ass overlap.

- Poggo's Extra :

01:36:912 (1) - For the sake of flow, what do you think about doing this slider like that ? http://puu.sh/mFrB0/ab0ecf0514.jpg
God diff.

- Madness :

01:27:946 (7,8,9) - Do you really hear a triplet here ? Because I don't.
How2mod difficult diff pls orz

I'm done. My brain is out of this orz.
Mukyu~

Hullahopp

341 posts

Joined April 2014

Hullahopp 2016-01-22T20:48:43+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
- HP's Hard :
Where are hitsounds ? Narnia
00:31:912 (2,3) - Hell jump of a Hard, and a straight flow here won't help. I prefer something like this but up to you : http://puu.sh/mFqaV/781aff5840.jpg . I don't want to change that, I want to keep up the flow.. thing..
00:43:291 (4) - wth is this slider ? Why a red anchor ? Why this when it kills your blanket ? OHQpidjfwoidjf Fixed the blanket
00:58:118 (5,1) - It's on purpose to not stack them ? Would be cool if they was. Stacked + added a jump there

Mukyu~

Thx

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-02-02T01:10:52+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
M4M I guess, will try to look at more than Normal ^^'

- General :
So you know already than minimum SR for a set is 2*, so you have multiple solutions to fix that. - Fixed I guess lol
Add Hullahopp (and maybe Katty Pie if she wants) to the tags. - Done.
Wth is that bg dimmention ??? Close to a 16/9 but is not so, try to find same with correct resolution (or a better bg lol ?) - According to the ranking criteria, it doesn't have to be precisely 4:3 or 16:9, and the closest 16:9 resolution is just a few pixels off, but I don't see the point of changing it really.

- Normal :
You have some distance spacing issues, like at 00:27:946 - your spacing change suddenly for ~1.2x for no reason. This kind of mistake must be fixed. - Fixed.
Better doing a global list here.
Check your blanket, you can do much better (some example : 00:22:429 (5,1) - / 00:25:877 (1,2,3) - / 01:05:877 (3,4) - ). - All fixed.
You often have a lack of construction in your diff, so it result with some aesthetic issues, like overlaps (example : 01:08:636 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,2) - ) who makes just the diff messy. Could be clean a little I think. - Tried my best, can't really do much about most of them, though. Might be that I'll remake some patterns at some point.
Overall your rhythm is ok, so just try to improve your patterns, and should be clean.

- FCL's Insane :
ok
00:43:291 (5) - I would rotate it by 45° to make the flow more clean. Looks so break right now.
01:06:567 (5) - Can you CTRL+J it ? It'll works a lot better with that flow.
01:12:429 (7,1) - Plssssss blanket me this correctly, and avoid the baka ass overlap.
FCL said to me that he applied everything.

- Madness :
01:27:946 (7,8,9) - Do you really hear a triplet here ? Because I don't. - At the time I thought I did, but listening to it again I guess I might've misheard it. I think I'll keep it though since I've always found it fitting in any case, and I put it there for a reason initially anyway.
How2mod difficult diff pls orz

I'm done. My brain is out of this orz.
Mukyu~

Thanks for modding~

Slayed_old_1

Slayed_old_1 2016-02-10T16:28:06+00:00

bring the memeness

bg size must be 1366x768 or riot (this is not a jok and if u really want to rank it use paint pls (dont))

ez

00:14:843 (1) - will work better on x=249 y=38

00:21:739 (1,1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short since this is the easiest diff in the set. u need smth around 1.5-2 secs and u have only ~1.

00:44:498 (3) - this curve is too random and looks really strange, since uve nver used this before

00:51:394 (3,4,5) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32cf8/28gmXACwsGc.jpg seems like this way works better

01:12:774 (1) - move to x=354 y=38 for a better flow

01:50:015 (1,1) - same thing about the recovery time

02:15:877 (1,2) - i think this blanket can be improved a bit since approciate circle from the (1) slider is touching the second slider

02:21:739 (4) - u forgot to nc this

03:15:595 (1,1,1,1) - ncs on every 2nd slider will work better, since every nc does some shit on HP and bpm changes are not really noticeable

i really dislike those curves of the sliders that u have. and this diff looks like easy+ since u mapped it using 1/2 (even its 90 bpm lol)

normal

can u tell me why sv in normal is 2 and in hard its 1.6?

also using different spacing and such many SV changes isnt a good idea at all

00:12:084 - unsnapped greenline

00:14:843 (1) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d6b/k5hRDCiHCaQ.jpg try something like this, also u will correct the overlap with this note 00:18:636 (2) -

00:45:187 (1) - flow after 00:43:808 (2) - this note should go down, not up http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d74/kCilhm1NSzc.jpg smth like this

00:46:567 (3,4,5,6) - wtf is the spacing here ???? 00:49:325 (3,4,5,6) - ??

00:47:256 (5,2) - could u stack this or just fix the overlap

01:40:360 - since the beat here is kinda strong, this note should be clickable, also note here goes before the break, so making it clickable will work

01:52:084 (1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short

02:03:808 (3,4) - hi 2* pp jumps thx jinx (correct it pls)

02:36:222 (1) - useless nc

02:41:739 (1) - and again. yes, i know that u wanted to emphariaze the sound on 02:41:049 (1) - this slider, its not really a good idea since its just a normal diff lolol

02:49:843 (1) - ^ ??

03:11:394 (3) - i think u forgot to nc this. and 03:17:608 (3) - this also

fcl

00:20:015 (1) - мб лучше 1/4 слайдер сюда, все-таки вокал

00:40:532 (4) - мб чуть-чуть побольше бланкет, а то этот выглядит как-то совсем странно http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d8e/RQpYZd6h0nQ.jpg

00:49:843 (4,6) - а тут он че-то кривой пиздец какой-то

00:53:118 (6,7) - могу я узнать, почему тут спейсинг меньше, чем в месте за пару секнуд до этого? хотя, по идее, спейсинг тут должен быть намного больше перед стримом

01:33:463 (6,7) - тут опять кривой бланкет

02:52:084 (1) - курва анранкабельная

03:22:500 - сделай конец хотя бы 75%, что ли

sorry, will take some more diff a bit later (temperature, so cant testplay hard diffs and mod it)

gl

P i k u

189 posts

Joined June 2013

P i k u 2016-02-10T19:35:59+00:00

Slayed wrote:
bring the memeness

ez

00:14:843 (1) - will work better on x=249 y=38 | ?

00:21:739 (1,1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short since this is the easiest diff in the set. u need smth around 1.5-2 secs and u have only ~1. | Aight

00:44:498 (3) - this curve is too random and looks really strange, since uve nver used this before | Ok

00:51:394 (3,4,5) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32cf8/28gmXACwsGc.jpg seems like this way works better | Indeed

01:12:774 (1) - move to x=354 y=38 for a better flow | Alright

01:50:015 (1,1) - same thing about the recovery time | Yes

02:15:877 (1,2) - i think this blanket can be improved a bit since approciate circle from the (1) slider is touching the second slider | Nice

02:21:739 (4) - u forgot to nc this | Oh, yeah

03:15:595 (1,1,1,1) - ncs on every 2nd slider will work better, since every nc does some shit on HP and bpm changes are not really noticeable | Agreed

i really dislike those curves of the sliders that u have. and this diff looks like easy+ since u mapped it using 1/2 (even its 90 bpm lol) | Uh, ok

Thank you

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FCL

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FCL 2016-02-11T20:24:02+00:00

Slayed wrote:
fcl

00:20:015 (1) - мб лучше 1/4 слайдер сюда, все-таки вокал там на обоих кругах сильный вокал, почему бы и да

00:40:532 (4) - мб чуть-чуть побольше бланкет, а то этот выглядит как-то совсем странно http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d8e/RQpYZd6h0nQ.jpg найс бланкет (нет)

00:49:843 (4,6) - а тут он че-то кривой пиздец какой-то ^

00:53:118 (6,7) - могу я узнать, почему тут спейсинг меньше, чем в месте за пару секнуд до этого? хотя, по идее, спейсинг тут должен быть намного больше перед стримом а хуй его знает

01:33:463 (6,7) - тут опять кривой бланкет ыыыыы

02:52:084 (1) - курва анранкабельная монстрата и с дерьмом похуже ранкал

03:22:500 - сделай конец хотя бы 75%, что ли окц

gl

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J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-02-11T21:14:15+00:00

Slayed wrote:
bring the memeness

bg size must be 1366x768 or riot (this is not a jok and if u really want to rank it use paint pls (dont)) - ?

normal

can u tell me why sv in normal is 2 and in hard its 1.6? - It doesn't matter, and the Hard also used larger SV changes than the Normal. Lowered SV considerably anyway.

also using different spacing and such many SV changes isnt a good idea at all - Made spacing more regular and lowered the amount of SV changes considerably

00:12:084 - unsnapped greenline - Fixed

00:14:843 (1) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d6b/k5hRDCiHCaQ.jpg try something like this, also u will correct the overlap with this note 00:18:636 (2) - Remapped this part and many parts after it

00:45:187 (1) - flow after 00:43:808 (2) - this note should go down, not up http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d74/kCilhm1NSzc.jpg smth like this - ^Same

00:46:567 (3,4,5,6) - wtf is the spacing here ???? 00:49:325 (3,4,5,6) - ?? - Same, also the spacing difference is caused by a slight SV change.

00:47:256 (5,2) - could u stack this or just fix the overlap - Same

01:40:360 - since the beat here is kinda strong, this note should be clickable, also note here goes before the break, so making it clickable will work - I like to end it with a slider to emphasize that sound in the song you hear here

01:52:084 (1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short - Fixed by removing spinner

02:03:808 (3,4) - hi 2* pp jumps thx jinx (correct it pls) - Remapped, "jumps" caused by SV change

02:36:222 (1) - useless nc - I agree these stand out a bit on the Normal, removed NC

02:41:739 (1) - and again. yes, i know that u wanted to emphariaze the sound on 02:41:049 (1) - this slider, its not really a good idea since its just a normal diff lolol - ^Same

02:49:843 (1) - ^ ?? - ^

03:11:394 (3) - i think u forgot to nc this. and 03:17:608 (3) - this also - Didn't forget but I decided to NC them anyways. Also added more NCs in the end

sorry, will take some more diff a bit later (temperature, so cant testplay hard diffs and mod it)

gl

Thanks for modding!~

Grizzlywolf

30 posts

Joined May 2015

Grizzlywolf 2016-02-12T16:10:25+00:00

Do you still have a previous version of a map? I dislike the new update.

Hullahopp

341 posts

Joined April 2014

Hullahopp 2016-02-21T13:18:29+00:00

Grizzlywolf wrote:
Do you still have a previous version of a map? I dislike the new update.

Edit: Sorry

Zerss

730 posts

Joined December 2013

Zerss 2016-02-23T19:04:23+00:00

Fast Mod for the easiest diff as asked

Piku's:

HP->1 & OD->2
I'd put a silent sound for normal-sliderslide because it sounds awful
00:13:808 (3,3) - put finish
00:16:567 (3) - I'd recommend to put this circle on the bottom of the slider, somewhere like at x120 y340, because, I know it's kinda cool, that it blankets, but the flow (mostly on an Easy) is much more important than a blanket, don't forget to move the following objects (4) and (1) to have a correct DS and try to make (1) compensate between (4) and (2) to have a good DS.
00:24:498 - the volume of the note is lower because there was a spinner before, add an uninherited point to put back the volume as it was before
00:33:118 (4) - Try to move this note a bit down, because it's seems a bit to close from 00:31:739 (2) -
00:33:463 (1) - Remove the NC
00:34:153 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I'd recommend to put the finish sounds on the circles and at the sliders' head and end
00:45:187 (1) - finish
00:56:222 (1) - ^ on the head
00:56:222 (1) - the second part (after the red point) looks awful, try to put more points and to make the last part less "roundy"
01:01:739 (1) - ^, I'll let you put the others too (actually, you did that hitsound for 00:58:981 (1) - so...)
01:07:256 (1) - This slider is hardly readable for the beginners, try to do something else
01:27:946 (3,4) - isn't recommended, use this rhythm instead
01:29:153 (1) - this is how you should do sliderwaves
01:31:394 (4) - No hitsounds here? head: sampleset->normal & clap; end: sampleset->normal & finish
01:37:601 - it's useless to have the uninherited point right in the middle of the slider, put it here instead
01:52:774 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - same as before for the finish hitsound
02:02:429 (1) - clap
02:08:636 (3,4,5) - on heads: clap
02:15:877 (1) - This is like, to avoid ABSOLUTELY, having the "clicking" and "release" moment on a red tick with the most important beat (02:16:222 -) on a reverse arrow. I already tried that out, and believe me, nobody likes it.
02:18:636 (5) - that slider looks kinda ugly, I mean, it's a good idea, but the fact is that the slider is too small to have this kind of pattern, I saw that a sometime on this diff and I won't send them all, try to do smth else. On sliders like this where the head is almost touching the end, you should put at most one point
02:27:601 (2,3,4) - flow is pretty bad here, try to put (3) more on the bottom
02:34:153 (2) - Try to do this kind of thing instead
02:35:532 (3) - The NC should be here, not at 02:36:222 (1) -
02:41:049 (1) - as i said before, everytime there's a rounded curve which isn't of a small size (the second part here), and which use the old way of making slider, use more points to make the round part more round, because we can see that it's not correctly curved (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus)
02:47:256 (1) - remove NC
02:52:084 (1) - hardly readable
03:00:360 (3,2) - NCs should be here, not at 02:59:670 (1,1) -

Normal:

As I said on Piku's diff, you should try to make normal-sliderslide silent, because it sounds really awful with, if you're not sure how to do it or how to find a good "silent" sound, message me on skype
00:14:843 (1) - Move the 2nd point a bit on the bottom right, to make it more look like that
00:19:670 (4,5,1) - flow is kinda broken here, mostly because of the (1)'s move, try to do smth else
00:23:118 (1) - As I said to Piku, everytime you have a roundy curve which is using the old way of slidermaking, use more points, at least three. It looks much much nicer (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus)
00:25:877 (1) - Here I guess you've made another sliderwave, but the second version. You should try to put the red point in the middle of the slider, it looks nicer imo
00:36:912 (1) - The second tick makes the slider off-screen for 4/3 monitors
01:15:532 (1) - This slider is using the old way to make sliders, correct it please (remove the second point then place it again with ctrl+click)
01:30:532 (3,1) - Improve blanket
01:33:291 (2,3) - This pattern is a bit weird, I mean, the other objects with this rhythm were like, following themselves, but here, it's patterning, it can be confused, and beginners might click on (3) a bit later
02:21:394 (3,1) - Distance inconsistancy (1.9x compared to the other distances 1.4x)
02:27:256 (1) - Having a red point at the end is totally useless unless if you want to make that the slider is using the old way of making sliders, which is automatically making
02:30:015 (1) - ^ + the last point is useless
02:35:532 (1) - This slider is a bit too curved imo, try to do something with it, like create a blanket with 02:33:291 (2) -
02:38:291 (1) - The last part of the slider is less curved than the first one, try to make it as curved as the first part
02:46:567 (1) - Try to put the second red point on the middle of the first and second curvy-thing point
02:59:670 (4) - Imo the red points should be more "centered" between the head and the end of the slider
03:07:946 (5) - What have you tried to do? lol
03:11:394 (1) - Sliderwaves (look at the beginning)

Okoratu wrote:
Zerss wrote:
Normal:

Well, just, as far as I know, SV changes are forbidden and unrankable in Normals, I'll see what you will do before doing anything.
As long as they aren't excessive SV changes are allowed in any difficulty level as long as they make sense

We talked about it with J1NX. If I've said "I'll see what you will do before doing anything." and "as far as I know", it's just because I wasn't sure, but, thanks for the clarification!

Last edited by Zerss 2016-02-23T21:34:34+00:00, edited 4 times in total.

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-02-23T19:23:46+00:00

Zerss wrote:
Normal:

Well, just, as far as I know, SV changes are forbidden and unrankable in Normals, I'll see what you will do before doing anything.

As long as they aren't excessive SV changes are allowed in any difficulty level as long as they make sense

Zel

240 posts

Joined April 2014

Zel 2016-02-25T05:41:38+00:00

can I make a 5.6 extra? :3

also holy shit good map yo best map of 2016

Hullahopp

341 posts

Joined April 2014

Hullahopp 2016-02-25T15:49:10+00:00

Zel wrote:
also holy shit good map yo best map of 2016

Ok, I'll stop :c

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-02-25T20:20:32+00:00

Zerss wrote:
Fast Mod for the easiest diff as asked

Normal:

As I said on Piku's diff, you should try to make normal-sliderslide silent, because it sounds really awful with, if you're not sure how to do it or how to find a good "silent" sound, message me on skype - Added it
00:14:843 (1) - Move the 2nd point a bit on the bottom right, to make it more look like that - Fixed
00:19:670 (4,5,1) - flow is kinda broken here, mostly because of the (1)'s move, try to do smth else - Remapped
00:23:118 (1) - As I said to Piku, everytime you have a roundy curve which is using the old way of slidermaking, use more points, at least three. It looks much much nicer (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus) - Done
00:25:877 (1) - Here I guess you've made another sliderwave, but the second version. You should try to put the red point in the middle of the slider, it looks nicer imo - Fixed
00:36:912 (1) - The second tick makes the slider off-screen for 4/3 monitors - Fixed by repositioning sliders a bit
01:15:532 (1) - This slider is using the old way to make sliders, correct it please (remove the second point then place it again with ctrl+click) - Fixed
01:30:532 (3,1) - Improve blanket - Improved it a bit
01:33:291 (2,3) - This pattern is a bit weird, I mean, the other objects with this rhythm were like, following themselves, but here, it's patterning, it can be confused, and beginners might click on (3) a bit later - Uhh, I don't really see how. Rhythm-wise it's the same as 01:32:774 (2,3) -
02:21:394 (3,1) - Distance inconsistancy (1.9x compared to the other distances 1.4x) - Whoops. Fixed
02:27:256 (1) - Having a red point at the end is totally useless unless if you want to make that the slider is using the old way of making sliders, which is automatically making - Don't really see the point and it doesn't change anything but removed it anyways lol
02:30:015 (1) - ^ + the last point is useless - ^Same
02:35:532 (1) - This slider is a bit too curved imo, try to do something with it, like create a blanket with 02:33:291 (2) - It's intentionally that curved to emphasize the wobbly sound and change in the song. The blanket idea seems kinda pointless considering how far away 02:33:291 (2) - is.
02:38:291 (1) - The last part of the slider is less curved than the first one, try to make it as curved as the first part - Done
02:46:567 (1) - Try to put the second red point on the middle of the first and second curvy-thing point - I use this sharper nook in the beginning of the slider to emphasize the sound in the song and to give it more impact. I think it would lose some of its impact if I move the anchor point more to the left.
02:59:670 (4) - Imo the red points should be more "centered" between the head and the end of the slider - Done
03:07:946 (5) - What have you tried to do? lol - A curved slider with a sharp turn in the end. The curve points in the beginning are so that it won't overlap with 03:07:774 (4) - so I'll leave it as it is for now at least.
03:11:394 (1) - Sliderwaves (look at the beginning) - Fixed. Wow, that sure used to look like garbage.

Thanks for the mod!

Zel wrote:
can I make a 5.6 extra? :3

also holy shit good map yo best map of 2016

Thanks! Unfortunately I don't think I'll be taking any more Extra GDs, but thanks for the offer.

Zerss

730 posts

Joined December 2013

Zerss 2016-02-25T20:46:10+00:00

J1NX1337 wrote:
Zerss wrote:
02:27:256 (1) - Having a red point at the end is totally useless unless if you want to make that the slider is using the old way of making sliders, which is automatically making - Don't really see the point and it doesn't change anything but removed it anyways lol
02:30:015 (1) - ^ + the last point is useless - ^Same

Let me explain this:
First, having a red point at the end is inconsistent, since, the first and the last points are used to set the beginning and the end of the slider, having a "blocking" (well, that's how I fell that this kind of "point" makes, since it's blocking the curves before and after the point to make them seperated) point at the end is, weird and useless.
Second, having a red point at the end is using more disk space: e.g. I've make a really simple slider, like this, and I've compared how much characters they're taking with and without the red point:
Without the red point at the end:

256,128,23554,2,0,L|256:192,1,45

With the red point at the end:

256,128,24933,2,0,P|256:192|256:192,1,45

It's obiviously using more characters, and it makes the file bigger, even though it's only like 2 bytes, or idk. But if you put plenty on them on a lot of beatmaps (keep in mind that ppl can download like 100k+ beatmaps), it's still megabytes of files for useless points.
As far as I know, it's not forbidden, but it's still better to remove them

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-02-25T21:12:53+00:00

Zerss wrote:
Let me explain this:
First, having a red point at the end is inconsistent, since, the first and the last points are used to set the beginning and the end of the slider, having a "blocking" (well, that's how I fell that this kind of "point" makes, since it's blocking the curves before and after the point to make them seperated) point at the end is, weird and useless.
Second, having a red point at the end is using more disk space: e.g. I've make a really simple slider, like this, and I've compared how much characters they're taking with and without the red point:
Without the red point at the end:
256,128,23554,2,0,L|256:192,1,45
With the red point at the end:
256,128,24933,2,0,P|256:192|256:192,1,45
It's obiviously using more characters, and it makes the file bigger, even though it's only like 2 bytes, or idk. But if you put plenty on them on a lot of beatmaps (keep in mind that ppl can download like 100k+ beatmaps), it's still megabytes of files for useless points.
As far as I know, it's not forbidden, but it's still better to remove them

Well, you made your point, but not nearly every map does this and if they do, probably only a few. Even if you got together every single beatmap in osu, it would barely change a thing. That's because the change in size is indeed only a few bytes. You'd need 1024 bytes for 1KB. You need 1024KB for 1MB. But those red anchor end points weren't intended anyway so I might as well fix them.

iamVill

298 posts

Joined April 2015

iamVill 2016-02-28T16:16:26+00:00

Cool and fun map
IT GOTTA GET RANKED xD

U have my star :3

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-02-28T16:57:59+00:00

Note: Will be applying Piku's mods on his Easy from now on as he will be mainly inactive in osu for some time.

iamVill wrote:
Cool and fun map
IT GOTTA GET RANKED xD

U have my star :3

Thanks!

Zerss wrote:
Fast Mod for the easiest diff as asked

Piku's:

HP->1 & OD->2 - Did OD2 and HP2.
I'd put a silent sound for normal-sliderslide because it sounds awful - Already fixed.
00:13:808 (3,3) - put finish - Fixed.
00:16:567 (3) - I'd recommend to put this circle on the bottom of the slider, somewhere like at x120 y340, because, I know it's kinda cool, that it blankets, but the flow (mostly on an Easy) is much more important than a blanket, don't forget to move the following objects (4) and (1) to have a correct DS and try to make (1) compensate between (4) and (2) to have a good DS. - Tbh I think it's fine as it is but if anyone else complains about it, I'll change it.
00:24:498 - the volume of the note is lower because there was a spinner before, add an uninherited point to put back the volume as it was before - Uninherited point, wot? Well anyway, decided to remove the spinner entirely to emphasize that one snare that could've be emphasized before because there had to be enough spinner recovery time. Also lowered the first inherited timing section's volume to 60% so it won't randomly drop.
00:33:118 (4) - Try to move this note a bit down, because it's seems a bit to close from 00:31:739 (2) - Okay
00:33:463 (1) - Remove the NC - Remapped this section - removed the spinner.
00:34:153 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I'd recommend to put the finish sounds on the circles and at the sliders' head and end - I don't wanna spam them so just put them on every other downbeat.
00:45:187 (1) - finish - Yes
00:56:222 (1) - ^ on the head - Yee
00:56:222 (1) - the second part (after the red point) looks awful, try to put more points and to make the last part less "roundy" - Smoothed out the curve a bit.
01:01:739 (1) - ^, I'll let you put the others too (actually, you did that hitsound for 00:58:981 (1) - so...) - All fixed
01:07:256 (1) - This slider is hardly readable for the beginners, try to do something else - Made it a bit clearer.
01:27:946 (3,4) - isn't recommended, use this rhythm instead - Works fine like this too, kicks on all of the notes.
01:29:153 (1) - this is how you should do sliderwaves - Tbh it's fine the way it is now. Who says there's only one way to make waves? lol
01:31:394 (4) - No hitsounds here? head: sampleset->normal & clap; end: sampleset->normal & finish - Fixed
01:37:601 - it's useless to have the uninherited point right in the middle of the slider, put it here instead - First of all it's an inherited timing point and second, it doesn't matter in the slightest. Did it anyway. lol
01:52:774 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - same as before for the finish hitsound - Done
02:02:429 (1) - clap - Yee
02:08:636 (3,4,5) - on heads: clap - Put the claps on the downbeats instead of the half beats. Did the same to the other build-up.
02:15:877 (1) - This is like, to avoid ABSOLUTELY, having the "clicking" and "release" moment on a red tick with the most important beat (02:16:222 -) on a reverse arrow. I already tried that out, and believe me, nobody likes it. - What? This emphasizes the loud sound heard in the song on the reverse perfectly. It's what I do in my other diffs as well. And believe me, it works and people like it.
02:18:636 (5) - that slider looks kinda ugly, I mean, it's a good idea, but the fact is that the slider is too small to have this kind of pattern, I saw that a sometime on this diff and I won't send them all, try to do smth else. On sliders like this where the head is almost touching the end, you should put at most one point - This one looks fine to me. Did some slight trimming on the other sliders like this.
02:27:601 (2,3,4) - flow is pretty bad here, try to put (3) more on the bottom - Not really much of a problem with this beat separation but moved it a bit anyway. lol
02:34:153 (2) - Try to do this kind of thing instead - I think it's fine the way it is tbh. If anyone else complains about it, I'll change it.
02:35:532 (3) - The NC should be here, not at 02:36:222 (1) - Hmm, not sure about this so I'll think about it later. For now, added an NC on 02:35:532 (1) - instead to make it consistent with the other kiai after this.
02:41:049 (1) - as i said before, everytime there's a rounded curve which isn't of a small size (the second part here), and which use the old way of making slider, use more points to make the round part more round, because we can see that it's not correctly curved (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus) - Made it look better.
02:47:256 (1) - remove NC - Will not, for the above reason. Might change it later.
02:52:084 (1) - hardly readable - I think it's still pretty readable but trimmed it anyway.
03:00:360 (3,2) - NCs should be here, not at 02:59:670 (1,1) - Fair enough, fixed.

Hullahopp

341 posts

Joined April 2014

Hullahopp 2016-03-03T16:20:30+00:00

iamVill wrote:
Cool and fun map
IT GOTTA GET RANKED xD

For real?

Sorry
But not even peppy can stop the memes...

Last edited by Hullahopp 2016-07-01T21:11:41+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-03-03T17:10:03+00:00

This is now officially a meme thread

Hullahopp

341 posts

Joined April 2014

Hullahopp 2016-03-12T16:12:06+00:00

J1NX1337 wrote:
This is now officially a meme thread

Grim Rapper

197 posts

Joined February 2015

Grim Rapper 2016-03-13T08:39:03+00:00

About my promise in multiplayer

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-03-13T13:44:24+00:00

Grim Rapper wrote:

About my promise in multiplayer

Thanks!

Zerss

730 posts

Joined December 2013

Zerss 2016-03-20T12:08:49+00:00

idk why everybody is posting this picture but i'm in

ExtrysGO

1 post

Joined December 2015

ExtrysGO 2016-04-05T13:55:23+00:00

is the best map i have played

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2016-04-17T11:53:11+00:00

m4m o/

General

Inconsistency in Combo Colours.
The following hitsounds are not proper blank (0 - 5 ms lenght): normal-sliderslide.wav

Madness

Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 -
00:27:601 (5,6) - Why is the spacing here so big, and blanketing this 00:27:774 (6,7) - makes it awkward to play because of how big the previous spacing is. Try to move this 00:27:601 (5) - to x:330 y:303 (basically stack under the sliderend of this 00:25:877 (1) - ) It makes it less awkward to play, and flows better.
00:28:636 (1,2,3) - It looks random when the spacing isn't consistent after the sliderend, it happens several of times too. Keeping it consistent shows that it's a part of the pattern, and there's no sign to make a new pattern on those two circles. It only makes it look random.
00:29:843 (1,2) - Please reduce this huge jump here. The song is not intense enough for this spacing. Try to move this 00:29:843 (1) - to x:396 y:160 (basically stack the head on 00:28:463 (8) - )
00:30:705 (4,5,1) - I'm not a fan of these kinda flows, but that's only my opinion. But still consider to change it a bit, maybe do ctrl+g on 00:31:394 (1) -
00:32:774 (1,2,3) - This doesn't really make sense. Why is the spacing here 00:32:774 (1,2) - bigger than this break here 00:33:118 (2,3) - ? Try something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4949840 instead, it clears the awkward spacing.
00:54:843 (1) - Move the spinner one tick to the right, and add a circle here 00:54:843 - since it's a strong beat which should be clickable. It doesn't make much sense to ignore it with a spinner.
00:59:498 (1) - Delete NC here, it's not necessary.
01:04:498 (1,2) - I'm starting to wonder if these are rankable..
01:04:498 (1) - This should end here 01:04:843 - on the strong beat, and add a circle here 01:05:015 - | You could also make this 01:05:187 (2) - a normal 1/2 slider that starts here 01:05:360 - and put a circle here 01:05:187 - I know the sliders may look cool, but it's imo not worth skipping these strong beats. (Btw, u can do Ctrl+Shift+S to shorten the slider when you have selected it.)
01:12:429 (11,1) - Please avoid this overlap here, the spacing is way too low too.
01:28:032 (8) - I don't hear anything to support this note here. But i hear something here 01:27:860 - You could make that a triple.
01:34:153 (11) - Well yeah, you decide to skip those strong beats again, not a good idea since it's and Extra diff.
02:12:084 - Same as last part like this 00:54:843 -
02:43:808 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 -
02:45:877 (7) - Why use so many anchor points lol.
02:47:601 (2) - Please blanket it properly: http://puu.sh/olnEL/dace5f4e71.jpg
02:54:843 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 -
03:05:877 (1,2) - U know what i will say here i guess

Poggo's Extra

Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 -
Concurent volume value for red-green line: 03:15:595 - 03:17:608 -
00:14:843 (1) - Not necessary to change, but maybe make it symmetrical by moving the red anchor point to the middle like: http://puu.sh/oloR1/f1f5c0c244.jpg
00:15:532 (2) - Same as above ^
00:23:808 - It's not recommended to make the strong beat not clickable..
00:33:463 (1,1) - Stack properly or avoid the overlap?
00:57:084 (1) - This NC isn't needed.
01:01:222 (7) - Why skip this strong beat at 01:01:394 - It's too strong to be skipped, otherwise it play awkward.
01:03:291 (3) - Try to delete this, and add a circle here 01:03:463 - that stacks on 01:03:636 (4) 's head. It fits more with the music.
01:08:118 (1) - Unneeded NC. Same with 01:10:705 (1) -
01:12:256 (9) - Same principle as 01:01:222 (7) - Skipping the way stronger beat is not recommended, and plays awkward.
01:13:463 (1) - Well this one starts on the white tick which makes it more natural to be NC, so this is correct NCed lol.
01:16:653 (6) - There's no supporting sound here for a circle, while there is here 01:16:825 -
01:27:860 - Maybe add a circle here?
01:29:498 (1) - NC here is not needed.
01:31:394 (1) - Welp, you keep skipping those stronger beats, i don't need to point them out anymore since you probably won't change them
02:24:498 (1) - Ok, i'll stop mentioning it now D:

Another

Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 -
00:36:049 (2) - Ctrl+G? The flow is better like that.
00:43:118 (3) - This slider is not complimenting anything which makes it random. A normal arc-shaped slider would look and fit much better.
00:57:601 (5) - Same as above..
00:59:498 (1) - NC here is not really needed.
01:14:153 (5) - Same as 00:57:601 (5) -
01:10:532 (1) - NC not needed.
02:18:291 (9,10) - Why such a low spacing here?
02:27:774 (1) - NC not needed.
02:43:808 (1,2) - I don't think these sliders are rankable tbh.
02:50:705 (6) - NC?

FCL's Insane

Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595
00:36:912 (1,2) - Stack properly.
01:20:877 (2,1) - Stacking these kinda breaks the flow, try to move it to somewhere like x:332 y:44 instead
01:27:601 (5) - Ctrl+G? It give a nice up and down flow.
01:34:843 (1,3) - Blanket properly? Like this: http://puu.sh/olvdL/83ef72fc59.jpg And then move this 01:35:877 (4) - Closer to the previous object.
02:24:153 (5,1) - This blanket can be improved.
02:26:912 (5) - Try something like this instead: http://puu.sh/olvtk/9ec29f1ab4.jpg
03:03:118 (1,2,3) - Please improve this blanket.

Shadren's Light Insane

02:10:704 (1,2,3) - It's not same DS as 02:10:963 (4,5,6,7,8) - You should probably make it the same so it's consistent. Try not to use gridsnap when u make a stream, so it's more clean.
02:15:015 (1) - Combo here is not needed.
02:43:808 (1,2) - Blanket this properly.

Feedback

I my opinion, the harder diffs could be polished more. Most of the objects are not mapped to the right beat, and makes it awkward to play.. There's some spacing issues too, but most of them are not that important to change. Again, it's only my opinion, and i recommend you to think about it.

Nice map, good luck!

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-04-17T22:26:25+00:00

Will be applying mods for Shadren since he'll be inactive. Not sure about Poggo yet but I'll reply if she's too busy.

-Tochi wrote:
m4m o/

General
Inconsistency in Combo Colours. - It's fine to have those for GDs
The following hitsounds are not proper blank (0 - 5 ms lenght): normal-sliderslide.wav - Fixed

Madness
Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 - Fixed
00:27:601 (5,6) - Why is the spacing here so big, and blanketing this 00:27:774 (6,7) - makes it awkward to play because of how big the previous spacing is. Try to move this 00:27:601 (5) - to x:330 y:303 (basically stack under the sliderend of this 00:25:877 (1) - ) It makes it less awkward to play, and flows better. - Yeah I've been wanting to do something about this for a while now. Initially I tried to preserve the square pattern but in the end I got kinda sick of it because of how it plays. Remade the pattern with better music emphasis and positioned 00:27:774 (6,7) - further away from each other. It might be I'll still have to do something more about it at some point.
00:28:636 (1,2,3) - It looks random when the spacing isn't consistent after the sliderend, it happens several of times too. Keeping it consistent shows that it's a part of the pattern, and there's no sign to make a new pattern on those two circles. It only makes it look random. - You got a point there. This was back when I tried to learn how to emphasize song intensity more but in this case it'd arguably be better to keep the spacing consistent. Fixed.
00:29:843 (1,2) - Please reduce this huge jump here. The song is not intense enough for this spacing. Try to move this 00:29:843 (1) - to x:396 y:160 (basically stack the head on 00:28:463 (8) - Did some pattern remaking.)
00:30:705 (4,5,1) - I'm not a fan of these kinda flows, but that's only my opinion. But still consider to change it a bit, maybe do ctrl+g on 00:31:394 (1) - - Also did pattern remaking here.
00:32:774 (1,2,3) - This doesn't really make sense. Why is the spacing here 00:32:774 (1,2) - bigger than this break here 00:33:118 (2,3) - ? Try something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4949840 instead, it clears the awkward spacing. - Also remade this. lol
00:54:843 (1) - Move the spinner one tick to the right, and add a circle here 00:54:843 - since it's a strong beat which should be clickable. It doesn't make much sense to ignore it with a spinner. - Alright.
00:59:498 (1) - Delete NC here, it's not necessary. - I prefer to begin these jump patterns with a new combo.
01:04:498 (1,2) - I'm starting to wonder if these are rankable.. - They are, yes. They're not that uncommonly found in ranked maps. lol
01:04:498 (1) - This should end here 01:04:843 - on the strong beat, and add a circle here 01:05:015 - | You could also make this 01:05:187 (2) - a normal 1/2 slider that starts here 01:05:360 - and put a circle here 01:05:187 - I know the sliders may look cool, but it's imo not worth skipping these strong beats. (Btw, u can do Ctrl+Shift+S to shorten the slider when you have selected it.) - You have a point but I think I'll keep these for now since I do stuff with them later on as well quite a few times, and changing them would probably mess things up. I think it works alright even if I don't emphasize the beat on 01:04:843 -
01:12:429 (11,1) - Please avoid this overlap here, the spacing is way too low too. - Oops, that was supposed to be 1/8 beat separated. Fixed. lol
01:28:032 (8) - I don't hear anything to support this note here. But i hear something here 01:27:860 - You could make that a triple. - Ah, good catch! I thought I originally heard a triplet sound somewhere here but probably ended up placing it at the wrong place it seems. Moved the triplet to the preceding beats.
01:34:153 (11) - Well yeah, you decide to skip those strong beats again, not a good idea since it's and Extra diff. - Yeah, changed this one for consistency's sake with 00:27:946 (7,8) - but it took me like 4 hours remaking the pattern until I was happy with it lmao
02:12:084 - Same as last part like this 00:54:843 - - Added a circle.
02:43:808 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 - - Will keep for now.
02:45:877 (7) - Why use so many anchor points lol. - ? It should be a bezier slider in the up to date version.
02:47:601 (2) - Please blanket it properly: http://puu.sh/olnEL/dace5f4e71.jpg - That would ruin the star pattern. If I decide to remake this pattern, I will, though.
02:54:843 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 - - Will keep for now.
03:05:877 (1,2) - U know what i will say here i guess - Yeah, same. lol

Another
Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 - - Removed it.
00:36:049 (2) - Ctrl+G? The flow is better like that. - Hmm, not a bad idea but I think I'll keep it the way it is, since the end of 00:36:049 (2) - fits better with the vocals than it would if I Ctrl+G'd it. I'll change it if anyone else recommends it.
00:43:118 (3) - This slider is not complimenting anything which makes it random. A normal arc-shaped slider would look and fit much better. - The shape's not such a big problem but the rhythm here was a bit off, so changed it in the process.
00:57:601 (5) - Same as above.. - I think it's fine.
00:59:498 (1) - NC here is not really needed. - I like to start these jump patterns with a new combo.
01:14:153 (5) - Same as 00:57:601 (5) - - Also fine imo.
01:10:532 (1) - NC not needed. - Same.
02:18:291 (9,10) - Why such a low spacing here? - Well, no reason in specific but it goes pretty well with the pattern imo.
02:27:774 (1) - NC not needed. - Same.
02:43:808 (1,2) - I don't think these sliders are rankable tbh. - They are. lol
02:50:705 (6) - NC? - That would kinda mess with my combo length consistency, so nah.

Shadren's Light Insane
02:10:704 (1,2,3) - It's not same DS as 02:10:963 (4,5,6,7,8) - You should probably make it the same so it's consistent. Try not to use gridsnap when u make a stream, so it's more clean. - Well I remade it with grid snap off and it really doesn't change anything even visually. lol
02:15:015 (1) - Combo here is not needed. - Removing it would make the combo way too long compared to the others, and I think this is the best place to NC considering that.
02:43:808 (1,2) - Blanket this properly. - Blanketed properly!

Feedback

I my opinion, the harder diffs could be polished more. Most of the objects are not mapped to the right beat, and makes it awkward to play.. There's some spacing issues too, but most of them are not that important to change. Again, it's only my opinion, and i recommend you to think about it. - Yeah, the Madness diff is the oldest one, and there are parts in it that I made like a year back, so there are bound to be some parts in it that could be improved. lol

Nice map, good luck!

Thank you! Your mod was quite helpful.

Hullahopp

341 posts

Joined April 2014

Hullahopp 2016-04-24T09:29:58+00:00

Everyone got mods
Except for me

Vindictae

1 post

Joined February 2016

Vindictae 2016-04-25T05:43:54+00:00

RANK THIS MAP PLEASE

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-04-25T08:49:54+00:00

Vindictae wrote:
RANK THIS MAP PLEASE

OK

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-05-06T19:36:56+00:00

Replying for Poggo since she seems to be busy.

-Tochi wrote:

Poggo's Extra
Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 - - Fixed
Concurent volume value for red-green line: 03:15:595 - 03:17:608 - - Former fixed but there's an SV change on the latter
00:14:843 (1) - Not necessary to change, but maybe make it symmetrical by moving the red anchor point to the middle like: http://puu.sh/oloR1/f1f5c0c244.jpg - Doesn't seem that necessary and I think Poggo did it intentionally
00:15:532 (2) - Same as above ^ - ^
00:23:808 - It's not recommended to make the strong beat not clickable.. - Yeah, changed this while trying to preserve the pattern as much as I could. Having the snare clickable would be better here imo.
00:33:463 (1,1) - Stack properly or avoid the overlap? - Seems fine to me.
00:57:084 (1) - This NC isn't needed. - It's good to have to separate the slow wub slider and jump section from each other.
01:01:222 (7) - Why skip this strong beat at 01:01:394 - It's too strong to be skipped, otherwise it play awkward. - You have a point, but she's mapped it this way at 01:12:256 (9) - as well and changing them would really ruin the patterns, so I'll keep them for now. Will change them if it's a rankability issue.
01:03:291 (3) - Try to delete this, and add a circle here 01:03:463 - that stacks on 01:03:636 (4) 's head. It fits more with the music. - Did something like that. Changed most of the offbeat sliders since they sound better on the half beats, while trying to preserve the pattern.
01:08:118 (1) - Unneeded NC. Same with 01:10:705 (1) - - Same as before.
01:12:256 (9) - Same principle as 01:01:222 (7) - Skipping the way stronger beat is not recommended, and plays awkward. - Yeah, but also keeping for now for the same reason as before.
01:13:463 (1) - Well this one starts on the white tick which makes it more natural to be NC, so this is correct NCed lol. - Well sure, but NCs don't have to be on the white ticks to be correct. lol
01:16:653 (6) - There's no supporting sound here for a circle, while there is here 01:16:825 - - Moved the triplet on the following beats.
01:27:860 - Maybe add a circle here? - Could, but I'd rather not mess with the patterns if possible.
01:29:498 (1) - NC here is not needed. - It emphasizes the song transition so it's good to have it there too.
01:31:394 (1) - Welp, you keep skipping those stronger beats, i don't need to point them out anymore since you probably won't change them - Yeah it seems fine to me tbh even if it's skipped since I don't find it that essential to emphasize it.
02:24:498 (1) - Ok, i'll stop mentioning it now D: - Yeah, seems alright to me since it's emphasizing the wub rather than the snare. lol

And thanks again

It's a bit difficult to apply mods for Poggo's diff without ruining the patterns so I'll try to keep what I can and apply things that make the most sense objectively. lol

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Stjpa 2016-05-09T02:49:10+00:00

M4M

[Easy]
• 00:27:256 (3,1) - Move (1) a few pixels down to avoid the little overlap. Not a big deal.
• 00:33:463 (1) - I really doubt that this NC is needed. That little break or whatever it's called is imo not a reason to use a NC spam here.
• 00:43:808 (2,3) - Since the music is completely the same in this part newer players might get surprised that you suddenly use two circles here. Maybe use two 00:38:292 (2) here? That would make it an A B A B scheme instead of A A A B.
• 00:47:256 (5) - I know that you follow the melody rather than the vocals but having the downbeat clickable would be much nicer since a new sentence starts here again. You would also get a bit more variety with changing this pattern. Same goes for 02:04:498 (5) .
• 02:01:049 (2) - I wonder why you now didn't place two circles here since it's the same as the previous one? My suggestion still stands for this.
• 02:36:222 (1) - Delete NC. It's the same as 02:40:360 (5,1) so it's kinda confusing. Also NCing 02:38:291 (4,5,1) here rather than 02:38:981 (1) is better because otherwise it would be inconsistent. Maybe I'm just confused tho lol.

[Shadren's Light Insane]
• 00:19:325 (2,3) - 00:18:636 (5,1) - Having an emphasis at one of both selected parts would be actually really cool.
• 01:00:705 (6) - CTRL + G? Is less boring imo and flows nice if you move (7) a bit up.
• 01:18:636 (2,3) - Extremely misdirecting because this doesn't fit into the concept of this diff.
• 01:33:981 (4,5) - Hard to read due the extremely big DS you never used before or at least with a build-up. Also the distance from (5) to (6) is even lower even though it's less dense.
• 02:37:601 (3,4) - Similar as the both above. This just comes out of a sudden.

Depending on how much you accept or not I'm gonna mod one additional diff.

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

FCL 2016-05-09T05:03:36+00:00

Thanks for modding tochi, applied all

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: _Drumstep_ - Excision _ Pegboard Nerds - Bring The Madness _feat. Mayor Apeshit_ _Monstercat_.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
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J1NX1337

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Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

J1NX1337 2016-05-09T22:00:33+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
M4M

[Easy]
• 00:27:256 (3,1) - Move (1) a few pixels down to avoid the little overlap. Not a big deal. - Fixed
• 00:33:463 (1) - I really doubt that this NC is needed. That little break or whatever it's called is imo not a reason to use a NC spam here. - Removed it.
• 00:43:808 (2,3) - Since the music is completely the same in this part newer players might get surprised that you suddenly use two circles here. Maybe use two 00:38:292 (2) here? That would make it an A B A B scheme instead of A A A B. - Did something
• 00:47:256 (5) - I know that you follow the melody rather than the vocals but having the downbeat clickable would be much nicer since a new sentence starts here again. You would also get a bit more variety with changing this pattern. Same goes for 02:04:498 (5) . - I agree, made them clickable.
• 02:01:049 (2) - I wonder why you now didn't place two circles here since it's the same as the previous one? My suggestion still stands for this. - Yee
• 02:36:222 (1) - Delete NC. It's the same as 02:40:360 (5,1) so it's kinda confusing. Also NCing 02:38:291 (4,5,1) here rather than 02:38:981 (1) is better because otherwise it would be inconsistent. Maybe I'm just confused tho lol. - Made them consistent.

[Shadren's Light Insane]
• 00:19:325 (2,3) - 00:18:636 (5,1) - Having an emphasis at one of both selected parts would be actually really cool. - Not sure what you mean by that
• 01:00:705 (6) - CTRL + G? Is less boring imo and flows nice if you move (7) a bit up. - That wouldn't work well with the direction of 01:01:394 (8) -
• 01:18:636 (2,3) - Extremely misdirecting because this doesn't fit into the concept of this diff. - Not sure what you're trying to say here. It follows the up-down-up flow of 01:18:291 (1,2,3,4) -. Lowered the spacing a little bit anyway.
• 01:33:981 (4,5) - Hard to read due the extremely big DS you never used before or at least with a build-up. Also the distance from (5) to (6) is even lower even though it's less dense. - Somewhat lowered the spacing between (4) and (5). Will keep the spacing between (5) and (6) about the same for now.
• 02:37:601 (3,4) - Similar as the both above. This just comes out of a sudden. - Lowered spacing a little bit.

Depending on how much you accept or not I'm gonna mod one additional diff.