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Excision & Pegboard Nerds - Bring The Madness (feat. Mayor A

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J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
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J1NX1337

Okoratu wrote:

ok
23:46 Okoratu: yeah it means about that much
23:47 Okoratu: and i kinda dislike how you break a movement completely in order to have a blanket
23:47 Okoratu: you do that alot
23:48 Okoratu: and a lot of those breaks in your movements would be better positioned elsewhere
23:48 Okoratu: also in some parts spacing does things i can't understand at first glance
23:48 Okoratu: it plays like you know how to play it
23:54 Okoratu: thanks bancho for dying
23:55 Okoratu: Ich sollte mich auch so langsam mal umbenennen idk if all of those got through but bancho just rip'd for me
23:55 Okoratu: fuk
23:55 Okoratu: wrong quote
23:55 Okoratu: gg
23:55 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/jpv2t/d43a231d25.jpg
23:57 J1NX1337: ah
23:57 J1NX1337: can you give me an example?
23:58 Okoratu: 00:17:651 (1,2,3) -
23:58 Okoratu: and then you break that motion for more or less forced movement to 00:19:375 (4) -
23:59 Okoratu: also sounds like 00:13:858 - are stronger than 00:13:513 - but require you to release a key only to play them while you have to actually do something for the weaker one of both
23:59 Okoratu: of them
23:59 Okoratu: like you have to press a key on the arguably weaker kick
23:59 Okoratu: and then release it on the stronger part of it
00:00 Okoratu: it'd make a bit more sense if you had to click the part of it that's stronger
00:01 J1NX1337: you're right about that
00:01 Okoratu: like 00:19:375 (4,5) - could also be sense with the song if rhythm was like http://puu.sh/jpvsw/8949bd428d.jpg because you would then need to click the kick and the held thing fits the vocal in 00:19:720 -
00:02 J1NX1337: I guess both of those could be fixed with reverse sliders
00:03 J1NX1337: though that would be a lot of repetition so yeah maybe better make them slider/circle
00:04 Okoratu: 00:26:617 (3,4,5,6,1) - feel like you have to just go in a square in order to play it so you'd expect the next object 00:27:651 (2) - to pick up the movement you get from following 00:27:306 (1) - all the way through, but instead you break the movement to 00:27:651 (2) -
00:04 Okoratu: while you don't break movements in several other places
00:05 Okoratu: also 00:27:996 (4) - end would make sense if you could click 00:28:513 - because there's an additional vocal
00:07 Okoratu: for a lot of the things out of kiai time you work with distance snap but that would kind of imply that the sounds are equally stressed in the music, because most of the stuff you have is equally spaced from 00:23:168 - to 00:56:272 - at least
00:07 Okoratu: doing that gives off the impression you interpret the song as monotonous and repetitive until that point and that nothing in particular sticks out
00:08 Okoratu: you can for example use spacing and sharp turns in certain points to give a stronger impression to certain notes
00:10 Okoratu: for example kicks, strong vocals or a sudden sound that pops up
00:11 Okoratu: that way stuff like 01:23:686 (12,1) - would not end up so much smaller than 01:23:168 (9,10,11,12) -
00:11 J1NX1337: well yea, I could, though I'm mostly following the background beat I'd say
00:11 Okoratu: or 01:36:789 (8,9) - will stick out less because there's more jumps like that
00:12 J1NX1337: also I kinda disagree about 00:27:996 (4) - since I like the break and stretched vocal it emphasizes
00:13 Okoratu: it would still emphasize the same vocal while being 1/4 shorter
00:13 Okoratu: but would allow you to map that other vocal too
00:13 Okoratu: butoklol
00:14 J1NX1337: I guess I just liked the long curve
00:14 J1NX1337: but yeah it does sound better with a circle on it, I'll just change it
00:16 J1NX1337: I do like the square before it though
00:16 J1NX1337: though I could make 00:27:651 (2) - flow better
00:17 Okoratu: the things i m mentioning are just some of the most obvious examples to illustrate what i mean by suggesting them
00:19 J1NX1337: guess I might as well make 00:28:513 (5) - a jump?
00:19 J1NX1337: I think it would fit there according to the vocals
00:19 Okoratu: lol do whatever you want to, as long as it makes more sense after than before it should be an improvment or something
00:19 Okoratu: idk
00:20 Okoratu: im kinda terrible at modding stuff where i disagree with some of the main concepts, so all i can do in most cases there is giving reasons as to why i disagree with certain stuff
00:20 J1NX1337: what do you think of the jump patterns?
00:22 Okoratu: they come off as a bit random sometimes and in certain situations a clear and defined pattern would probably look a bit better than what you have currently but uhh
00:23 J1NX1337: yeah I get that a lot actually, remade them many times but I guess I just can't get it right lol
00:24 Okoratu: 02:26:962 (9,1) - 02:15:582 (9,1) -
00:25 Okoratu: 02:18:513 (11,1) - 02:29:375 (11,12,13,1) -
00:26 Okoratu: 02:37:824 (11,12) - 02:40:582 (11,12) -
00:26 Okoratu: 02:48:168 (6,7) -
00:27 Okoratu: like doing stuff differently in some cases isn't a bad thing
00:27 Okoratu: but past a certain point noone else who doesn't know why you would do it differently each time
00:27 Okoratu: would understand why you do it
00:29 J1NX1337: so what's the problem with these?
00:33 Okoratu: well for the last few you sometimes space them out sometimes stack sometimes space them out more or less
00:33 Okoratu: some times u stack stuff in the part where you had a bigger jump previously
00:33 J1NX1337: well I do like variation in my maps lol
00:36 J1NX1337: I mean I wouldn't really like if all of them stacked
00:36 Okoratu: that's not
00:36 Okoratu: what i said
00:36 Okoratu: at all
00:36 Okoratu: it's more like you don't stack most times
00:36 Okoratu: and then you only stack some
00:36 Okoratu: in some cases people might even expect a jump and find a stack
00:36 Okoratu: lol
00:37 J1NX1337: yeah
00:37 J1NX1337: but that's why I do variation
00:37 J1NX1337: I wouldn't like if they all stacked, for example
00:37 J1NX1337: but I do find stacks fitting too
00:37 J1NX1337: so I want to use both
00:38 J1NX1337: 02:48:168 (6,7) - dunno about you but IMO this fits well with the song and plays nicely with the star pattern
00:38 Okoratu: and i said a certain level of consistency should be necessary or noone is going to see why you do stuff
00:38 Okoratu: i never said it played badly
00:38 Okoratu: i only asked you why you have the stack there
00:39 Okoratu: and like
00:39 Okoratu: nowhere else in both shorter kiais
00:39 Okoratu: for those sounds
00:40 J1NX1337: yeah I just added the "plays nicely" just as a reason to keep it
00:40 Okoratu: it's your map not mine
00:40 J1NX1337: I just have a different pattern going on in other patterns
00:40 Okoratu: so i can't really kill you or anything
00:40 J1NX1337: it wouldn't work that well in back and forth patterns I think
00:40 Okoratu: you asked and i told you why i think it's weird
00:41 J1NX1337: alright
00:42 J1NX1337: but yeah, I get what you mean
00:43 J1NX1337: I mean I could stack these at least I suppose 02:40:582 (11,12) -
00:43 J1NX1337: so it's more like 02:37:824 (11,12) -
00:44 Okoratu: do whatever you want if you think it helps your map
00:45 Okoratu: and don't do the stuff that ends up making it worse than it was
00:45 Okoratu: obvious
00:45 Okoratu: ly
00:45 Okoratu: lmao
00:45 J1NX1337: lol
00:45 J1NX1337: yea, true..
00:47 J1NX1337: anything else? If you post this on the forum thread I'll give you some kudosu for it, it was quite helpful
00:49 Okoratu: I had some fun with this because it felt a bit nostalgic
00:50 J1NX1337: reminded you of your own mapping? :P
00:50 J1NX1337: old* mapping
00:50 Okoratu: no i had similar arguments with some of my friends back when i started mapping
00:50 Okoratu: with me in your position
00:50 Okoratu: so this was quite funny to see
00:51 J1NX1337: ah
00:51 Okoratu: like even the arguments from both sides are so similar
00:51 Okoratu: :'D
00:51 Okoratu: i can post this, sure
00:51 J1NX1337: yeah, it's kinda hard to take criticism after you get complimented a lot before it, but it was very helpful anyway lol
00:52 Okoratu: you can do 2 things with the stuff you get
00:52 Okoratu: taking it seriously or disregarding it with reasons that make sense to you
00:52 Okoratu: that's kinda your freedom as a mapper
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Thanks for the IRC mod, it was quite helpful especially in terms of music emphasis. I'll take this into account and do some improvements on the map and my future maps! :)
Lemmmy
113 posts
Joined July 2014
Lemmmy

Difficulty: Madness

Most of the stuff here is just my opinion.


Rhythm

  1. 00:12:651 - Insert a circle here
  2. 00:13:341 - Insert a circle here
  3. 00:13:686 - Insert a circle here
  4. 00:14:893 (1) - Reduce this slider 1/2, so that it ends on the red tick at 00:15:237
  5. 00:15:410 - Insert a circle here
  6. 00:15:582 - Insert a circle here
  7. 00:16:100 - Insert a circle here
  8. 00:18:858 - Insert a circle here
  9. 00:20:410 (1) - Reduce this slider 1/2, so that it ends on the red tick at 00:20:755
  10. 00:20:927 - Insert a circle here
  11. 00:21:099 - Insert a circle here
  12. 00:21:272 - insert a circle here
  13. 00:21:444 - Insert a circle here
  14. 00:21:617 - Insert a circle here
  15. 00:21:789 - Make the spinner start here instead

Aesthetics

  1. 00:24:375 (1,2,3) - Make these sliders have the same curve. Do this by copying one and rotating, repeating and CTRL + G'ing as necessary. Perhaps give them the same curve as 00:23:858 (4).
  2. 00:36:617 (7) - Decrease spacing from 00:36:444 (6) slightly.
  3. 00:41:099 (4) - Increase spacing from 00:40:755 (3) and move downwards by 30 to 60 pixels
  4. 01:10:065 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - An idea for this part COULD be to make the jumps horizontal, but going downwards, like a ladder
    This is the sort of pattern I mean, but you will need to adapt it for placement, spacing, symmetry etc
  5. 01:42:479 (1,2,3) - Make these fullscreen jumps
  6. 01:45:582 (1,2) - Make these fullscreen jumps
  7. 01:47:996 (1,2,3) - Make these fullscreen jumps

Combos

  1. 00:35:582- Start a new combo here
  2. 00:41:099 - Start a new combo here
  3. 00:38:341 - Start a new combo here
  4. 00:41:099 - Start a new combo here
  5. 00:43:858 - Start a new combo here
  6. 00:54:203 - Start a new combo here
  7. 00:56:962 - Start a new combo here
  8. 00:59:548 - Start a new combo here
  9. 01:02:479 - Start a new combo here
  10. 01:05:927 - Start a new combo here
  11. 01:07:996 - Start a new combo here
  12. 01:10:582 - Start a new combo here
  13. 01:13:513 - Start anew combo here
  14. 01:16:789 - Start a new combo here
  15. 02:11:703 - Start a new combo here
As a tip for comboing streams, moreso a personal guideline than a rule or anything, always make a new combo every beat, or every 8 notes.
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

Lemmmy wrote:

Difficulty: Madness

Most of the stuff here is just my opinion.


Rhythm

Now this is something that I have previously refused to change, but after giving it a lot of thought and trying it out in action, I find it more fun to play with more notes. The original idea behind this was to only start mapping to the quarter beats after the spinner, since that's when the background beat really kicks in, in order to emphasize it more. However, this also made the part before the spinner relatively boring to play, so I'll change it.
  1. 00:12:651 - Insert a circle here - Ok.
  2. 00:13:341 - Insert a circle here - Alright.
  3. 00:13:686 - Insert a circle here - Done.
  4. 00:14:893 (1) - Reduce this slider 1/2, so that it ends on the red tick at 00:15:237 - Done.
  5. 00:15:410 - Insert a circle here - Yep.
  6. 00:15:582 - Insert a circle here - Ok.
  7. 00:16:100 - Insert a circle here - Sure.
  8. 00:18:858 - Insert a circle here - Alright.
  9. 00:20:410 (1) - Reduce this slider 1/2, so that it ends on the red tick at 00:20:755 - The background samples in the song stop at 00:21:099. If I were to keep mapping all the way to 00:21:617 after they stop, I would have to map to all of the vocals, otherwise it would be too abrupt to end it with circles and then throw in a random spinner when the vocals still keep going. I'd prefer to have that spinner here, so I'll keep this as it is.
  10. 00:20:927 - Insert a circle here
  11. 00:21:099 - Insert a circle here
  12. 00:21:272 - insert a circle here
  13. 00:21:444 - Insert a circle here
  14. 00:21:617 - Insert a circle here
  15. 00:21:789 - Make the spinner start here instead

Aesthetics

  1. 00:24:375 (1,2,3) - Make these sliders have the same curve. Do this by copying one and rotating, repeating and CTRL + G'ing as necessary. Perhaps give them the same curve as 00:23:858 (4). - They do actually have the same curve, the upper one is just flipped. But I flipped the lower one so they'd look better together~
  2. 00:36:617 (7) - Decrease spacing from 00:36:444 (6) slightly. - Okay.
  3. 00:41:099 (4) - Increase spacing from 00:40:755 (3) and move downwards by 30 to 60 pixels - Can't really do this without sacrificing the straight line formation made by 2, 3, 4 and then 4, 5 and 6. I'd also like to keep 5 right in the middle. The little spacing difference won't matter too much in the grand scheme of things.
  4. 01:10:065 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - An idea for this part COULD be to make the jumps horizontal, but going downwards, like a ladder
    This is the sort of pattern I mean, but you will need to adapt it for placement, spacing, symmetry etc - That is an alright pattern idea on its own but I already have a gradually decreasing triangle pattern going on here, and I think I'd prefer to keep it as people seem to like it.
  5. 01:42:479 (1,2,3) - Make these fullscreen jumps - I don't see the point in making them "fullscreen" jumps. This is the only break in the map really and I don't wanna make it too difficult. I did change the patterns and increased the spacing though.
  6. 01:45:582 (1,2) - Make these fullscreen jumps - Same.
  7. 01:47:996 (1,2,3) - Make these fullscreen jumps - Same.

Combos

  1. 00:35:582- Start a new combo here - I don't think I will. It belongs to the same verse line as 1 and 2. This would also conflict with the second buildup's new combos.
  2. 00:41:099 - Start a new combo here - ^
  3. 00:38:341 - Start a new combo here - ^
  4. 00:41:099 - Start a new combo here
  5. 00:43:858 - Start a new combo here - ^
  6. 00:54:203 - Start a new combo here - Now this I can do.
  7. 00:56:962 - Start a new combo here - I suppose I can leave those sliders as single combos, helps to emphasize the wubs.
  8. 00:59:548 - Start a new combo here - Yea.
  9. 01:02:479 - Start a new combo here - Sure.
  10. 01:05:927 - Start a new combo here - I find it sort of unfitting here. 01:05:755 here's alright though.
  11. 01:07:996 - Start a new combo here - Sure.
  12. 01:10:582 - Start a new combo here - Yea.
  13. 01:13:513 - Start anew combo here - Alright.
  14. 01:16:789 - Start a new combo here - Right.
  15. 02:11:703 - Start a new combo here - I think it's better to start it from the beat at 02:11:444.
As a tip for comboing streams, moreso a personal guideline than a rule or anything, always make a new combo every beat, or every 8 notes.

Also did similar changes to other latter parts.
Thanks for the mod! :D
Lemmmy
113 posts
Joined July 2014
Lemmmy
Nice work! You have my star! Keep it up!

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Lazer
417 posts
Joined July 2012
Lazer
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Hullahopp
341 posts
Joined April 2014
Hullahopp
My diff got reworked from scratch
Code
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: _Drumstep_ - Excision _ Pegboard Nerds - Bring The Madness _feat. Mayor Apeshit_ _Monstercat_.mp3
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[Metadata]
Title:Bring The Madness (feat. Mayor Apeshit)
TitleUnicode:Bring The Madness (feat. Mayor Apeshit)
Artist:Excision & Pegboard Nerds
ArtistUnicode:Excision & Pegboard Nerds
Creator:J1NX1337
Version:HP's Hard
Source:
Tags:electronic drumstep dubstep drum and bass dnb drop heavy monstercat
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[Difficulty]
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Lazer
417 posts
Joined July 2012
Lazer
where is lazer diff
Megatrook89
54 posts
Joined December 2014
Megatrook89
o/ cool song

Madness


00:12:601 (2,3) - ctril+g these two mayb (ofc change hitsounds accordingly)
00:14:843 (1) - nerf shape a tiny bit (too squigly)
00:16:222 (6) - ^
00:17:601 (1) - ^
00:19:670 (9,1) - blanket 9 with 1's slider end
00:23:118 - instead of having spinner end here, i recommend ending spinner at 00:22:774 - or 00:22:429 - and add a circle there 00:23:118 -
00:24:843 (2,4) - overlap
00:26:394 (3,4) - these feel weird, either move 00:26:222 (2) - up a bit or 00:26:567 (4) - down
00:26:394 (3,1) - overlaps ew
00:29:670 (5,3) - snap 3 on 5
00:33:463 (3) - ew looks ugly
00:32:084 (4,3) - snap 3 to 4's sliderstart
00:36:912 (1,2) - make the last anchor point actually point fowards and not to the side
00:42:084 (8,1) - overlaps trigger me
00:44:325 (8) - copy 00:43:118 (4) - and rotate it to that position
00:46:222 (4,3) - overlapzzzzzzz
00:47:256 (5,1) - ^ ew
00:50:532 (6,2) - ^
00:52:084 (1,4) - ^
01:02:429 (1,2,3) - use same DS on these 3 (distance snap)
01:06:222 (4,5,6) - ^
01:05:187 (2) - snap this to 01:03:463 (6,7) -
01:05:705 (1,2,3) - that doesnt look liek a straight line
01:07:256 (1,1) - for all sliders of this kind copy these 00:56:222 (1,1,1) - and scale/rotate them to your enjoyment
01:12:084 (10) - not quite in the centre of 01:11:567 (7,8,9) -
01:12:429 (11) - nerf this slider (too much for such a small slider)
01:18:118 (7) - - move this to x266 y86
01:20:015 (8,9,10) - ew no
01:22:256 (5,6,7) - same DS
01:23:808 (1) - small nerf
01:31:739 (10,2) - triggered (overlap)
01:33:981 (9,10) - make slider more curvy so 9 goes well in the middle
01:34:843 (1) - nerf
02:01:049 (7,8) - make 8 a copy of 7 but scale it up (ctrl+shift+s)
02:05:016 (5,2) - ech
02:06:912 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - same DS
02:12:084 - add a circle here for the stream, move spinner to blue tick/ next yellow tick
02:15:532 (9) - ew looks ugly again :c too many anchor points
02:17:601 (6,9) - me_irl (fix these overlaps haha ;P)
02:27:256 (1,3) - ^ ow
02:27:256 (1,6) - ^
02:30:015 (1) - make this slider a copy of 02:27:256 (1) - but rotated
02:35:015 (7) - snap this to 02:34:153 (3) - slider end
02:35:360 (9,1) - this doesnt really flow well
02:37:256 (6,7) - ctrl g
02:44:498 (2) - slider end looks weird
02:45:532 (5,7) - D:
02:46:567 (1,2) - DDDDDD::::::::::
02:50:187 (3,4,5) - this one 02:50:360 (4) - is a bit too far away
02:52:084 (1,1) - HNNG
02:54:843 (1) - snap this slider end to 02:54:325 (10) -
03:00:705 (2,3,4) - same DS
03:03:118 (1) - kind of fits but i'd nerf it a tiny bit

Good luck! and remember, have fun <4
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

Megatrook89 wrote:

o/ cool song

Madness


00:12:601 (2,3) - ctril+g these two mayb (ofc change hitsounds accordingly) - I prefer the pause-continue type of mapping I have going on here, fits the song.
00:14:843 (1) - nerf shape a tiny bit (too squigly) - "Nerfed" it a tiny bit. I don't really see the point though as it doesn't really matter.
00:16:222 (6) - ^ - This one's fine
00:17:601 (1) - ^ - Ok
00:19:670 (9,1) - blanket 9 with 1's slider end - There's no point really as the slider disappears before the other reaches it for the most part. Curved it slightly more anyway.
00:23:118 - instead of having spinner end here, i recommend ending spinner at 00:22:774 - or 00:22:429 - and add a circle there 00:23:118 - - I don't see why I couldn't have the spinner end on the downbeat. I like it more this way, I think it's a nice entrance to the next part of the verse.
00:24:843 (2,4) - overlap - Not a big deal and doesn't bother while playing in any way.
00:26:394 (3,4) - these feel weird, either move 00:26:222 (2) - up a bit or 00:26:567 (4) - down - Made the pattern look better overall.
00:26:394 (3,1) - overlaps ew - Wouldn't be a problem in any case.
00:29:670 (5,3) - snap 3 on 5 - Done.
00:33:463 (3) - ew looks ugly - Not imo but I adjusted it a bit.
00:32:084 (4,3) - snap 3 to 4's sliderstart - There's really no point in doing that other than it looking a bit better in the editor, which doesn't matter.
00:36:912 (1,2) - make the last anchor point actually point fowards and not to the side - If you mean the last (red) anchor point, then that would simply make it a straight line, so no. If you mean the last curve point, eh, I don't really see the point. It is aimed towards (7) and I'd have to start moving a lot of stuff around for that.
00:42:084 (8,1) - overlaps trigger me - Barely noticeable while playing, adjusted the slider and (2) a little bit anyway.
00:44:325 (8) - copy 00:43:118 (4) - and rotate it to that position - The idea here is to blanket 00:43:981 (6,8) - which would not work if I copied (4). They look symmetrical enough anyway.
00:46:222 (4,3) - overlapzzzzzzz - Again, barely visible in game.
00:47:256 (5,1) - ^ ew - Not even visible in game.
00:50:532 (6,2) - ^ - Doesn't bother while playing.
00:52:084 (1,4) - ^ - Just no.
01:02:429 (1,2,3) - use same DS on these 3 (distance snap) - I'd like to keep the little jump in there, it's the intense kiai after all.
01:06:222 (4,5,6) - ^ - The DS change emphasizes the vocals.
01:05:187 (2) - snap this to 01:03:463 (6,7) - I don't really see why I should. Then I'd have to move everything else after it too, so it's quite insignificant.
01:05:705 (1,2,3) - that doesnt look liek a straight line - It's not supposed to be a straight line.
01:07:256 (1,1) - for all sliders of this kind copy these 00:56:222 (1,1,1) - and scale/rotate them to your enjoyment - Those are intentional for variety.
01:12:084 (10) - not quite in the centre of 01:11:567 (7,8,9) - Not a big deal. Moved it a little bit.
01:12:429 (11) - nerf this slider (too much for such a small slider) - Fixed.
01:18:118 (7) - - move this to x266 y86 - The idea is to have blankets between 01:17:601 (6,7,1) - but I adjusted (6)'s end a bit anyway to make it look better.
01:20:015 (8,9,10) - ew no - ew yes
01:22:256 (5,6,7) - same DS - The DS increase emphasizes vocals better.
01:23:808 (1) - small nerf - No need.
01:31:739 (10,2) - triggered (overlap) - lol, again not visible while playing, readjusting positioning of everything just to fix a minor overlap in the editor just isn't worth anyone's time.
01:33:981 (9,10) - make slider more curvy so 9 goes well in the middle - It's pretty much perfect?
01:34:843 (1) - nerf - It's supposed to look wonky to emphasize the wöb in the song.
02:01:049 (7,8) - make 8 a copy of 7 but scale it up (ctrl+shift+s) - That was the intention though I guess it came off kinda weird. :lol: Fixed.
02:05:016 (5,2) - ech - Looks good to me.
02:06:912 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - same DS - I'm intentionally not using the same DS but made some adjustments anyway.
02:12:084 - add a circle here for the stream, move spinner to blue tick/ next yellow tick - I don't find this necessary as the sound playing on that beat isn't too noticeable, I'd like to start the spinner from there.
02:15:532 (9) - ew looks ugly again :c too many anchor points - Looks fine to me, trimmed it a bit anyway.
02:17:601 (6,9) - me_irl (fix these overlaps haha ;P) - Again barely noticeable and not a big deal but did it anyway since I noticed the gap between 8 and 9 is too small.
02:27:256 (1,3) - ^ ow - ^ but wanted to improve flow between (1,1) so moved the slider out of the way.
02:27:256 (1,6) - ^ - That's not even noticeable in the editor. Wut.
02:30:015 (1) - make this slider a copy of 02:27:256 (1) - but rotated - Well alright.
02:35:015 (7) - snap this to 02:34:153 (3) - slider end - Done.
02:35:360 (9,1) - this doesnt really flow well - Remade this pattern.
02:37:256 (6,7) - ctrl g - Improved this pattern a bit but I'll keep (6) where it is.
02:44:498 (2) - slider end looks weird - Fixed.
02:45:532 (5,7) - D: - Improved it a bit, wanted to redirect that slider anyway.
02:46:567 (1,2) - DDDDDD:::::::::: - This stupid circle has been giving me problems for ages, it's actually really difficult to change the pattern so that it doesn't overlap. This is because I want the star pattern to be centered and I want 2 of its circles to stack with the slider's end. And also because of the part that precedes this, and I of course want to maintain that sexy curve in that slider because I think it emphasizes the music perfectly. /rant This is one of the few visible overlaps in this map and I finally got rid of it by extending the curves on the slider a bit, therefore being able to move it more to the right.
02:50:187 (3,4,5) - this one 02:50:360 (4) - is a bit too far away - Fixed.
02:52:084 (1,1) - HNNG - Fixed. For once.
02:54:843 (1) - snap this slider end to 02:54:325 (10) - Ok, I guess why not although it doesn't really serve a purpose. Improves the flow between (11,1) at least.
03:00:705 (2,3,4) - same DS - I use this gap to emphasize the little piano notes in the song, as well as the snare.
03:03:118 (1) - kind of fits but i'd nerf it a tiny bit - Eh, doesn't make much of a difference but did it anyway.

Good luck! and remember, have fun <4
Thanks for the mod! :)
InfectedYoU
7 posts
Joined June 2014
InfectedYoU
I absolutely f***ing love playing this map. it feels great. the song is great. please, when you are going to alter the Madness difficulty. at least keep it playable for the pre 1000 ranks - I know it's gonna need work before ranked, but it feels so nice to play.
Love it. Keep it up. Holymoley. Get ranked now lel :) :) :) :) :)
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

InfectedYoU wrote:

I absolutely f***ing love playing this map. it feels great. the song is great. please, when you are going to alter the Madness difficulty. at least keep it playable for the pre 1000 ranks - I know it's gonna need work before ranked, but it feels so nice to play.
Love it. Keep it up. Holymoley. Get ranked now lel :) :) :) :) :)
Thanks, I'm glad you like it!
FCL
1,478 posts
Joined July 2014
FCL
R E M A K E D
osu file format v14

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Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,568 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
M4M I guess, will try to look at more than Normal ^^'

- General :

  1. So you know already than minimum SR for a set is 2*, so you have multiple solutions to fix that.
  2. Add Hullahopp (and maybe Katty Pie if she wants) to the tags.
  3. Wth is that bg dimmention ??? Close to a 16/9 but is not so, try to find same with correct resolution (or a better bg lol ?)

- Normal :

  1. You have some distance spacing issues, like at 00:27:946 - your spacing change suddenly for ~1.2x for no reason. This kind of mistake must be fixed.
  2. Better doing a global list here.
  3. Check your blanket, you can do much better (some example : 00:22:429 (5,1) - / 00:25:877 (1,2,3) - / 01:05:877 (3,4) - ).
  4. You often have a lack of construction in your diff, so it result with some aesthetic issues, like overlaps (example : 01:08:636 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,2) - ) who makes just the diff messy. Could be clean a little I think.
  5. Overall your rhythm is ok, so just try to improve your patterns, and should be clean.

- HP's Hard :

  1. Where are hitsounds ?
  2. 00:31:912 (2,3) - Hell jump of a Hard, and a straight flow here won't help. I prefer something like this but up to you : http://puu.sh/mFqaV/781aff5840.jpg .
  3. 00:43:291 (4) - wth is this slider ? Why a red anchor ? Why this when it kills your blanket ? OHQpidjfwoidjf
  4. 00:58:118 (5,1) - It's on purpose to not stack them ? Would be cool if they was.

- FCL's Insane :

  1. 00:43:291 (5) - I would rotate it by 45° to make the flow more clean. Looks so break right now.
  2. 01:06:567 (5) - Can you CTRL+J it ? It'll works a lot better with that flow.
  3. 01:12:429 (7,1) - Plssssss blanket me this correctly, and avoid the baka ass overlap.

- Poggo's Extra :

  1. 01:36:912 (1) - For the sake of flow, what do you think about doing this slider like that ? http://puu.sh/mFrB0/ab0ecf0514.jpg
  2. God diff.

- Madness :

  1. 01:27:946 (7,8,9) - Do you really hear a triplet here ? Because I don't.
  2. How2mod difficult diff pls orz

I'm done. My brain is out of this orz.
Mukyu~
Hullahopp
341 posts
Joined April 2014
Hullahopp

Nozhomi wrote:

- HP's Hard :

  1. Where are hitsounds ? Narnia
  2. 00:31:912 (2,3) - Hell jump of a Hard, and a straight flow here won't help. I prefer something like this but up to you : http://puu.sh/mFqaV/781aff5840.jpg . I don't want to change that, I want to keep up the flow.. thing..
  3. 00:43:291 (4) - wth is this slider ? Why a red anchor ? Why this when it kills your blanket ? OHQpidjfwoidjf Fixed the blanket
  4. 00:58:118 (5,1) - It's on purpose to not stack them ? Would be cool if they was. Stacked + added a jump there

Mukyu~
Thx
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

Nozhomi wrote:

M4M I guess, will try to look at more than Normal ^^'

- General :

  1. So you know already than minimum SR for a set is 2*, so you have multiple solutions to fix that. - Fixed I guess lol
  2. Add Hullahopp (and maybe Katty Pie if she wants) to the tags. - Done.
  3. Wth is that bg dimmention ??? Close to a 16/9 but is not so, try to find same with correct resolution (or a better bg lol ?) - According to the ranking criteria, it doesn't have to be precisely 4:3 or 16:9, and the closest 16:9 resolution is just a few pixels off, but I don't see the point of changing it really.

- Normal :

  1. You have some distance spacing issues, like at 00:27:946 - your spacing change suddenly for ~1.2x for no reason. This kind of mistake must be fixed. - Fixed.
  2. Better doing a global list here.
  3. Check your blanket, you can do much better (some example : 00:22:429 (5,1) - / 00:25:877 (1,2,3) - / 01:05:877 (3,4) - ). - All fixed.
  4. You often have a lack of construction in your diff, so it result with some aesthetic issues, like overlaps (example : 01:08:636 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,1) - / 00:27:946 (4,2) - ) who makes just the diff messy. Could be clean a little I think. - Tried my best, can't really do much about most of them, though. Might be that I'll remake some patterns at some point.
  5. Overall your rhythm is ok, so just try to improve your patterns, and should be clean.

- FCL's Insane :

  1. 00:43:291 (5) - I would rotate it by 45° to make the flow more clean. Looks so break right now.
  2. 01:06:567 (5) - Can you CTRL+J it ? It'll works a lot better with that flow.
  3. 01:12:429 (7,1) - Plssssss blanket me this correctly, and avoid the baka ass overlap.
FCL said to me that he applied everything.

- Madness :

  1. 01:27:946 (7,8,9) - Do you really hear a triplet here ? Because I don't. - At the time I thought I did, but listening to it again I guess I might've misheard it. I think I'll keep it though since I've always found it fitting in any case, and I put it there for a reason initially anyway.
  2. How2mod difficult diff pls orz

I'm done. My brain is out of this orz.
Mukyu~
Thanks for modding~
Slayed_old_1
Slayed_old_1
bring the memeness

bg size must be 1366x768 or riot (this is not a jok and if u really want to rank it use paint pls (dont))

ez

00:14:843 (1) - will work better on x=249 y=38

00:21:739 (1,1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short since this is the easiest diff in the set. u need smth around 1.5-2 secs and u have only ~1.

00:44:498 (3) - this curve is too random and looks really strange, since uve nver used this before

00:51:394 (3,4,5) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32cf8/28gmXACwsGc.jpg seems like this way works better

01:12:774 (1) - move to x=354 y=38 for a better flow

01:50:015 (1,1) - same thing about the recovery time

02:15:877 (1,2) - i think this blanket can be improved a bit since approciate circle from the (1) slider is touching the second slider

02:21:739 (4) - u forgot to nc this

03:15:595 (1,1,1,1) - ncs on every 2nd slider will work better, since every nc does some shit on HP and bpm changes are not really noticeable

i really dislike those curves of the sliders that u have. and this diff looks like easy+ since u mapped it using 1/2 (even its 90 bpm lol)

normal


can u tell me why sv in normal is 2 and in hard its 1.6?

also using different spacing and such many SV changes isnt a good idea at all

00:12:084 - unsnapped greenline

00:14:843 (1) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d6b/k5hRDCiHCaQ.jpg try something like this, also u will correct the overlap with this note 00:18:636 (2) -

00:45:187 (1) - flow after 00:43:808 (2) - this note should go down, not up http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d74/kCilhm1NSzc.jpg smth like this

00:46:567 (3,4,5,6) - wtf is the spacing here ???? 00:49:325 (3,4,5,6) - ??

00:47:256 (5,2) - could u stack this or just fix the overlap

01:40:360 - since the beat here is kinda strong, this note should be clickable, also note here goes before the break, so making it clickable will work

01:52:084 (1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short

02:03:808 (3,4) - hi 2* pp jumps thx jinx (correct it pls)

02:36:222 (1) - useless nc

02:41:739 (1) - and again. yes, i know that u wanted to emphariaze the sound on 02:41:049 (1) - this slider, its not really a good idea since its just a normal diff lolol

02:49:843 (1) - ^ ??

03:11:394 (3) - i think u forgot to nc this. and 03:17:608 (3) - this also

fcl

00:20:015 (1) - мб лучше 1/4 слайдер сюда, все-таки вокал

00:40:532 (4) - мб чуть-чуть побольше бланкет, а то этот выглядит как-то совсем странно http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d8e/RQpYZd6h0nQ.jpg

00:49:843 (4,6) - а тут он че-то кривой пиздец какой-то

00:53:118 (6,7) - могу я узнать, почему тут спейсинг меньше, чем в месте за пару секнуд до этого? хотя, по идее, спейсинг тут должен быть намного больше перед стримом

01:33:463 (6,7) - тут опять кривой бланкет

02:52:084 (1) - курва анранкабельная

03:22:500 - сделай конец хотя бы 75%, что ли

sorry, will take some more diff a bit later (temperature, so cant testplay hard diffs and mod it)

gl
P i k u
189 posts
Joined June 2013
P i k u

Slayed wrote:

bring the memeness

ez

00:14:843 (1) - will work better on x=249 y=38 | ?

00:21:739 (1,1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short since this is the easiest diff in the set. u need smth around 1.5-2 secs and u have only ~1. | Aight

00:44:498 (3) - this curve is too random and looks really strange, since uve nver used this before | Ok

00:51:394 (3,4,5) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32cf8/28gmXACwsGc.jpg seems like this way works better | Indeed

01:12:774 (1) - move to x=354 y=38 for a better flow | Alright

01:50:015 (1,1) - same thing about the recovery time | Yes

02:15:877 (1,2) - i think this blanket can be improved a bit since approciate circle from the (1) slider is touching the second slider | Nice

02:21:739 (4) - u forgot to nc this | Oh, yeah

03:15:595 (1,1,1,1) - ncs on every 2nd slider will work better, since every nc does some shit on HP and bpm changes are not really noticeable | Agreed

i really dislike those curves of the sliders that u have. and this diff looks like easy+ since u mapped it using 1/2 (even its 90 bpm lol) | Uh, ok
Thank you
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FCL
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FCL

Slayed wrote:

fcl

00:20:015 (1) - мб лучше 1/4 слайдер сюда, все-таки вокал там на обоих кругах сильный вокал, почему бы и да

00:40:532 (4) - мб чуть-чуть побольше бланкет, а то этот выглядит как-то совсем странно http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d8e/RQpYZd6h0nQ.jpg найс бланкет (нет)

00:49:843 (4,6) - а тут он че-то кривой пиздец какой-то ^

00:53:118 (6,7) - могу я узнать, почему тут спейсинг меньше, чем в месте за пару секнуд до этого? хотя, по идее, спейсинг тут должен быть намного больше перед стримом а хуй его знает

01:33:463 (6,7) - тут опять кривой бланкет ыыыыы

02:52:084 (1) - курва анранкабельная монстрата и с дерьмом похуже ранкал

03:22:500 - сделай конец хотя бы 75%, что ли окц


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J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

Slayed wrote:

bring the memeness

bg size must be 1366x768 or riot (this is not a jok and if u really want to rank it use paint pls (dont)) - ?

normal


can u tell me why sv in normal is 2 and in hard its 1.6? - It doesn't matter, and the Hard also used larger SV changes than the Normal. Lowered SV considerably anyway.

also using different spacing and such many SV changes isnt a good idea at all - Made spacing more regular and lowered the amount of SV changes considerably

00:12:084 - unsnapped greenline - Fixed

00:14:843 (1) - http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d6b/k5hRDCiHCaQ.jpg try something like this, also u will correct the overlap with this note 00:18:636 (2) - Remapped this part and many parts after it

00:45:187 (1) - flow after 00:43:808 (2) - this note should go down, not up http://cs628625.vk.me/v628625809/32d74/kCilhm1NSzc.jpg smth like this - ^Same

00:46:567 (3,4,5,6) - wtf is the spacing here ???? 00:49:325 (3,4,5,6) - ?? - Same, also the spacing difference is caused by a slight SV change.

00:47:256 (5,2) - could u stack this or just fix the overlap - Same

01:40:360 - since the beat here is kinda strong, this note should be clickable, also note here goes before the break, so making it clickable will work - I like to end it with a slider to emphasize that sound in the song you hear here

01:52:084 (1) - recovery time after the spinner is too short - Fixed by removing spinner

02:03:808 (3,4) - hi 2* pp jumps thx jinx (correct it pls) - Remapped, "jumps" caused by SV change

02:36:222 (1) - useless nc - I agree these stand out a bit on the Normal, removed NC

02:41:739 (1) - and again. yes, i know that u wanted to emphariaze the sound on 02:41:049 (1) - this slider, its not really a good idea since its just a normal diff lolol - ^Same

02:49:843 (1) - ^ ?? - ^

03:11:394 (3) - i think u forgot to nc this. and 03:17:608 (3) - this also - Didn't forget but I decided to NC them anyways. Also added more NCs in the end

sorry, will take some more diff a bit later (temperature, so cant testplay hard diffs and mod it)

gl
Thanks for modding!~ :D
Grizzlywolf
30 posts
Joined May 2015
Grizzlywolf
Do you still have a previous version of a map? I dislike the new update.
Hullahopp
341 posts
Joined April 2014
Hullahopp

Grizzlywolf wrote:

Do you still have a previous version of a map? I dislike the new update.

Edit: Sorry
Zerss
730 posts
Joined December 2013
Zerss
Fast Mod for the easiest diff as asked

Piku's:

  1. HP->1 & OD->2
  2. I'd put a silent sound for normal-sliderslide because it sounds awful
  3. 00:13:808 (3,3) - put finish
  4. 00:16:567 (3) - I'd recommend to put this circle on the bottom of the slider, somewhere like at x120 y340, because, I know it's kinda cool, that it blankets, but the flow (mostly on an Easy) is much more important than a blanket, don't forget to move the following objects (4) and (1) to have a correct DS and try to make (1) compensate between (4) and (2) to have a good DS.
  5. 00:24:498 - the volume of the note is lower because there was a spinner before, add an uninherited point to put back the volume as it was before
  6. 00:33:118 (4) - Try to move this note a bit down, because it's seems a bit to close from 00:31:739 (2) -
  7. 00:33:463 (1) - Remove the NC
  8. 00:34:153 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I'd recommend to put the finish sounds on the circles and at the sliders' head and end
  9. 00:45:187 (1) - finish
  10. 00:56:222 (1) - ^ on the head
  11. 00:56:222 (1) - the second part (after the red point) looks awful, try to put more points and to make the last part less "roundy"
  12. 01:01:739 (1) - ^, I'll let you put the others too (actually, you did that hitsound for 00:58:981 (1) - so...)
  13. 01:07:256 (1) - This slider is hardly readable for the beginners, try to do something else
  14. 01:27:946 (3,4) - isn't recommended, use this rhythm instead
  15. 01:29:153 (1) - this is how you should do sliderwaves
  16. 01:31:394 (4) - No hitsounds here? head: sampleset->normal & clap; end: sampleset->normal & finish
  17. 01:37:601 - it's useless to have the uninherited point right in the middle of the slider, put it here instead
  18. 01:52:774 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - same as before for the finish hitsound
  19. 02:02:429 (1) - clap
  20. 02:08:636 (3,4,5) - on heads: clap
  21. 02:15:877 (1) - This is like, to avoid ABSOLUTELY, having the "clicking" and "release" moment on a red tick with the most important beat (02:16:222 -) on a reverse arrow. I already tried that out, and believe me, nobody likes it.
  22. 02:18:636 (5) - that slider looks kinda ugly, I mean, it's a good idea, but the fact is that the slider is too small to have this kind of pattern, I saw that a sometime on this diff and I won't send them all, try to do smth else. On sliders like this where the head is almost touching the end, you should put at most one point
  23. 02:27:601 (2,3,4) - flow is pretty bad here, try to put (3) more on the bottom
  24. 02:34:153 (2) - Try to do this kind of thing instead
  25. 02:35:532 (3) - The NC should be here, not at 02:36:222 (1) -
  26. 02:41:049 (1) - as i said before, everytime there's a rounded curve which isn't of a small size (the second part here), and which use the old way of making slider, use more points to make the round part more round, because we can see that it's not correctly curved (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus)
  27. 02:47:256 (1) - remove NC
  28. 02:52:084 (1) - hardly readable
  29. 03:00:360 (3,2) - NCs should be here, not at 02:59:670 (1,1) -
Normal:

  1. As I said on Piku's diff, you should try to make normal-sliderslide silent, because it sounds really awful with, if you're not sure how to do it or how to find a good "silent" sound, message me on skype
  2. 00:14:843 (1) - Move the 2nd point a bit on the bottom right, to make it more look like that
  3. 00:19:670 (4,5,1) - flow is kinda broken here, mostly because of the (1)'s move, try to do smth else
  4. 00:23:118 (1) - As I said to Piku, everytime you have a roundy curve which is using the old way of slidermaking, use more points, at least three. It looks much much nicer (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus)
  5. 00:25:877 (1) - Here I guess you've made another sliderwave, but the second version. You should try to put the red point in the middle of the slider, it looks nicer imo
  6. 00:36:912 (1) - The second tick makes the slider off-screen for 4/3 monitors
  7. 01:15:532 (1) - This slider is using the old way to make sliders, correct it please (remove the second point then place it again with ctrl+click)
  8. 01:30:532 (3,1) - Improve blanket
  9. 01:33:291 (2,3) - This pattern is a bit weird, I mean, the other objects with this rhythm were like, following themselves, but here, it's patterning, it can be confused, and beginners might click on (3) a bit later
  10. 02:21:394 (3,1) - Distance inconsistancy (1.9x compared to the other distances 1.4x)
  11. 02:27:256 (1) - Having a red point at the end is totally useless unless if you want to make that the slider is using the old way of making sliders, which is automatically making
  12. 02:30:015 (1) - ^ + the last point is useless
  13. 02:35:532 (1) - This slider is a bit too curved imo, try to do something with it, like create a blanket with 02:33:291 (2) -
  14. 02:38:291 (1) - The last part of the slider is less curved than the first one, try to make it as curved as the first part
  15. 02:46:567 (1) - Try to put the second red point on the middle of the first and second curvy-thing point
  16. 02:59:670 (4) - Imo the red points should be more "centered" between the head and the end of the slider
  17. 03:07:946 (5) - What have you tried to do? lol
  18. 03:11:394 (1) - Sliderwaves (look at the beginning)

Okoratu wrote:

Zerss wrote:

Normal:

  1. Well, just, as far as I know, SV changes are forbidden and unrankable in Normals, I'll see what you will do before doing anything.
As long as they aren't excessive SV changes are allowed in any difficulty level as long as they make sense
We talked about it with J1NX. If I've said "I'll see what you will do before doing anything." and "as far as I know", it's just because I wasn't sure, but, thanks for the clarification!
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Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
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Okoratu

Zerss wrote:

Normal:

  1. Well, just, as far as I know, SV changes are forbidden and unrankable in Normals, I'll see what you will do before doing anything.
As long as they aren't excessive SV changes are allowed in any difficulty level as long as they make sense
Zel
240 posts
Joined April 2014
Zel
can I make a 5.6 extra? :3

also holy shit good map yo best map of 2016
Hullahopp
341 posts
Joined April 2014
Hullahopp

Zel wrote:

also holy shit good map yo best map of 2016

Ok, I'll stop :c
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

Zerss wrote:

Fast Mod for the easiest diff as asked

Normal:

  1. As I said on Piku's diff, you should try to make normal-sliderslide silent, because it sounds really awful with, if you're not sure how to do it or how to find a good "silent" sound, message me on skype - Added it
  2. 00:14:843 (1) - Move the 2nd point a bit on the bottom right, to make it more look like that - Fixed
  3. 00:19:670 (4,5,1) - flow is kinda broken here, mostly because of the (1)'s move, try to do smth else - Remapped
  4. 00:23:118 (1) - As I said to Piku, everytime you have a roundy curve which is using the old way of slidermaking, use more points, at least three. It looks much much nicer (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus) - Done
  5. 00:25:877 (1) - Here I guess you've made another sliderwave, but the second version. You should try to put the red point in the middle of the slider, it looks nicer imo - Fixed
  6. 00:36:912 (1) - The second tick makes the slider off-screen for 4/3 monitors - Fixed by repositioning sliders a bit
  7. 01:15:532 (1) - This slider is using the old way to make sliders, correct it please (remove the second point then place it again with ctrl+click) - Fixed
  8. 01:30:532 (3,1) - Improve blanket - Improved it a bit
  9. 01:33:291 (2,3) - This pattern is a bit weird, I mean, the other objects with this rhythm were like, following themselves, but here, it's patterning, it can be confused, and beginners might click on (3) a bit later - Uhh, I don't really see how. Rhythm-wise it's the same as 01:32:774 (2,3) -
  10. 02:21:394 (3,1) - Distance inconsistancy (1.9x compared to the other distances 1.4x) - Whoops. Fixed
  11. 02:27:256 (1) - Having a red point at the end is totally useless unless if you want to make that the slider is using the old way of making sliders, which is automatically making - Don't really see the point and it doesn't change anything but removed it anyways lol
  12. 02:30:015 (1) - ^ + the last point is useless - ^Same
  13. 02:35:532 (1) - This slider is a bit too curved imo, try to do something with it, like create a blanket with 02:33:291 (2) - It's intentionally that curved to emphasize the wobbly sound and change in the song. The blanket idea seems kinda pointless considering how far away 02:33:291 (2) - is.
  14. 02:38:291 (1) - The last part of the slider is less curved than the first one, try to make it as curved as the first part - Done
  15. 02:46:567 (1) - Try to put the second red point on the middle of the first and second curvy-thing point - I use this sharper nook in the beginning of the slider to emphasize the sound in the song and to give it more impact. I think it would lose some of its impact if I move the anchor point more to the left.
  16. 02:59:670 (4) - Imo the red points should be more "centered" between the head and the end of the slider - Done
  17. 03:07:946 (5) - What have you tried to do? lol - A curved slider with a sharp turn in the end. The curve points in the beginning are so that it won't overlap with 03:07:774 (4) - so I'll leave it as it is for now at least.
  18. 03:11:394 (1) - Sliderwaves (look at the beginning) - Fixed. Wow, that sure used to look like garbage.
Thanks for the mod! :)

Zel wrote:

can I make a 5.6 extra? :3

also holy shit good map yo best map of 2016
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't think I'll be taking any more Extra GDs, but thanks for the offer. :D
Zerss
730 posts
Joined December 2013
Zerss

J1NX1337 wrote:

Zerss wrote:

  1. 02:27:256 (1) - Having a red point at the end is totally useless unless if you want to make that the slider is using the old way of making sliders, which is automatically making - Don't really see the point and it doesn't change anything but removed it anyways lol
  2. 02:30:015 (1) - ^ + the last point is useless - ^Same
Let me explain this:
First, having a red point at the end is inconsistent, since, the first and the last points are used to set the beginning and the end of the slider, having a "blocking" (well, that's how I fell that this kind of "point" makes, since it's blocking the curves before and after the point to make them seperated) point at the end is, weird and useless.
Second, having a red point at the end is using more disk space: e.g. I've make a really simple slider, like this, and I've compared how much characters they're taking with and without the red point:
Without the red point at the end:
256,128,23554,2,0,L|256:192,1,45
With the red point at the end:
256,128,24933,2,0,P|256:192|256:192,1,45
It's obiviously using more characters, and it makes the file bigger, even though it's only like 2 bytes, or idk. But if you put plenty on them on a lot of beatmaps (keep in mind that ppl can download like 100k+ beatmaps), it's still megabytes of files for useless points.
As far as I know, it's not forbidden, but it's still better to remove them
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

Zerss wrote:

Let me explain this:
First, having a red point at the end is inconsistent, since, the first and the last points are used to set the beginning and the end of the slider, having a "blocking" (well, that's how I fell that this kind of "point" makes, since it's blocking the curves before and after the point to make them seperated) point at the end is, weird and useless.
Second, having a red point at the end is using more disk space: e.g. I've make a really simple slider, like this, and I've compared how much characters they're taking with and without the red point:
Without the red point at the end:
256,128,23554,2,0,L|256:192,1,45
With the red point at the end:
256,128,24933,2,0,P|256:192|256:192,1,45
It's obiviously using more characters, and it makes the file bigger, even though it's only like 2 bytes, or idk. But if you put plenty on them on a lot of beatmaps (keep in mind that ppl can download like 100k+ beatmaps), it's still megabytes of files for useless points.
As far as I know, it's not forbidden, but it's still better to remove them
Well, you made your point, but not nearly every map does this and if they do, probably only a few. Even if you got together every single beatmap in osu, it would barely change a thing. That's because the change in size is indeed only a few bytes. You'd need 1024 bytes for 1KB. You need 1024KB for 1MB. But those red anchor end points weren't intended anyway so I might as well fix them. :P
iamVill
298 posts
Joined April 2015
iamVill
Cool and fun map
IT GOTTA GET RANKED xD

U have my star :3 :P :)
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337
Note: Will be applying Piku's mods on his Easy from now on as he will be mainly inactive in osu for some time.

iamVill wrote:

Cool and fun map
IT GOTTA GET RANKED xD

U have my star :3 :P :)
Thanks!

Zerss wrote:

Fast Mod for the easiest diff as asked

Piku's:

  1. HP->1 & OD->2 - Did OD2 and HP2.
  2. I'd put a silent sound for normal-sliderslide because it sounds awful - Already fixed.
  3. 00:13:808 (3,3) - put finish - Fixed.
  4. 00:16:567 (3) - I'd recommend to put this circle on the bottom of the slider, somewhere like at x120 y340, because, I know it's kinda cool, that it blankets, but the flow (mostly on an Easy) is much more important than a blanket, don't forget to move the following objects (4) and (1) to have a correct DS and try to make (1) compensate between (4) and (2) to have a good DS. - Tbh I think it's fine as it is but if anyone else complains about it, I'll change it.
  5. 00:24:498 - the volume of the note is lower because there was a spinner before, add an uninherited point to put back the volume as it was before - Uninherited point, wot? Well anyway, decided to remove the spinner entirely to emphasize that one snare that could've be emphasized before because there had to be enough spinner recovery time. Also lowered the first inherited timing section's volume to 60% so it won't randomly drop.
  6. 00:33:118 (4) - Try to move this note a bit down, because it's seems a bit to close from 00:31:739 (2) - Okay
  7. 00:33:463 (1) - Remove the NC - Remapped this section - removed the spinner.
  8. 00:34:153 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I'd recommend to put the finish sounds on the circles and at the sliders' head and end - I don't wanna spam them so just put them on every other downbeat.
  9. 00:45:187 (1) - finish - Yes
  10. 00:56:222 (1) - ^ on the head - Yee
  11. 00:56:222 (1) - the second part (after the red point) looks awful, try to put more points and to make the last part less "roundy" - Smoothed out the curve a bit.
  12. 01:01:739 (1) - ^, I'll let you put the others too (actually, you did that hitsound for 00:58:981 (1) - so...) - All fixed
  13. 01:07:256 (1) - This slider is hardly readable for the beginners, try to do something else - Made it a bit clearer.
  14. 01:27:946 (3,4) - isn't recommended, use this rhythm instead - Works fine like this too, kicks on all of the notes.
  15. 01:29:153 (1) - this is how you should do sliderwaves - Tbh it's fine the way it is now. Who says there's only one way to make waves? lol
  16. 01:31:394 (4) - No hitsounds here? head: sampleset->normal & clap; end: sampleset->normal & finish - Fixed
  17. 01:37:601 - it's useless to have the uninherited point right in the middle of the slider, put it here instead - First of all it's an inherited timing point and second, it doesn't matter in the slightest. Did it anyway. lol
  18. 01:52:774 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - same as before for the finish hitsound - Done
  19. 02:02:429 (1) - clap - Yee
  20. 02:08:636 (3,4,5) - on heads: clap - Put the claps on the downbeats instead of the half beats. Did the same to the other build-up.
  21. 02:15:877 (1) - This is like, to avoid ABSOLUTELY, having the "clicking" and "release" moment on a red tick with the most important beat (02:16:222 -) on a reverse arrow. I already tried that out, and believe me, nobody likes it. - What? This emphasizes the loud sound heard in the song on the reverse perfectly. It's what I do in my other diffs as well. And believe me, it works and people like it.
  22. 02:18:636 (5) - that slider looks kinda ugly, I mean, it's a good idea, but the fact is that the slider is too small to have this kind of pattern, I saw that a sometime on this diff and I won't send them all, try to do smth else. On sliders like this where the head is almost touching the end, you should put at most one point - This one looks fine to me. Did some slight trimming on the other sliders like this.
  23. 02:27:601 (2,3,4) - flow is pretty bad here, try to put (3) more on the bottom - Not really much of a problem with this beat separation but moved it a bit anyway. lol
  24. 02:34:153 (2) - Try to do this kind of thing instead - I think it's fine the way it is tbh. If anyone else complains about it, I'll change it.
  25. 02:35:532 (3) - The NC should be here, not at 02:36:222 (1) - Hmm, not sure about this so I'll think about it later. For now, added an NC on 02:35:532 (1) - instead to make it consistent with the other kiai after this.
  26. 02:41:049 (1) - as i said before, everytime there's a rounded curve which isn't of a small size (the second part here), and which use the old way of making slider, use more points to make the round part more round, because we can see that it's not correctly curved (ex (all taken from my mapsets). Lost, Send me an angel, Pavor Nocturnus) - Made it look better.
  27. 02:47:256 (1) - remove NC - Will not, for the above reason. Might change it later.
  28. 02:52:084 (1) - hardly readable - I think it's still pretty readable but trimmed it anyway.
  29. 03:00:360 (3,2) - NCs should be here, not at 02:59:670 (1,1) - Fair enough, fixed.
Hullahopp
341 posts
Joined April 2014
Hullahopp

iamVill wrote:

Cool and fun map
IT GOTTA GET RANKED xD
For real?





Sorry
But not even peppy can stop the memes...
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J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337
This is now officially a meme thread
Hullahopp
341 posts
Joined April 2014
Hullahopp

J1NX1337 wrote:

This is now officially a meme thread
Grim Rapper
197 posts
Joined February 2015
Grim Rapper

About my promise in multiplayer
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337

Grim Rapper wrote:


About my promise in multiplayer
Thanks!
Zerss
730 posts
Joined December 2013
Zerss

idk why everybody is posting this picture but i'm in
ExtrysGO
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ExtrysGO
is the best map i have played :D
-Tochi
Elite Storyboarder
1,444 posts
Joined November 2013
-Tochi
m4m o/

  • General

  1. Inconsistency in Combo Colours.
  2. The following hitsounds are not proper blank (0 - 5 ms lenght): normal-sliderslide.wav


  • Madness

  1. Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 -
  2. 00:27:601 (5,6) - Why is the spacing here so big, and blanketing this 00:27:774 (6,7) - makes it awkward to play because of how big the previous spacing is. Try to move this 00:27:601 (5) - to x:330 y:303 (basically stack under the sliderend of this 00:25:877 (1) - ) It makes it less awkward to play, and flows better.
  3. 00:28:636 (1,2,3) - It looks random when the spacing isn't consistent after the sliderend, it happens several of times too. Keeping it consistent shows that it's a part of the pattern, and there's no sign to make a new pattern on those two circles. It only makes it look random.
  4. 00:29:843 (1,2) - Please reduce this huge jump here. The song is not intense enough for this spacing. Try to move this 00:29:843 (1) - to x:396 y:160 (basically stack the head on 00:28:463 (8) - )
  5. 00:30:705 (4,5,1) - I'm not a fan of these kinda flows, but that's only my opinion. But still consider to change it a bit, maybe do ctrl+g on 00:31:394 (1) -
  6. 00:32:774 (1,2,3) - This doesn't really make sense. Why is the spacing here 00:32:774 (1,2) - bigger than this break here 00:33:118 (2,3) - ? Try something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4949840 instead, it clears the awkward spacing.
  7. 00:54:843 (1) - Move the spinner one tick to the right, and add a circle here 00:54:843 - since it's a strong beat which should be clickable. It doesn't make much sense to ignore it with a spinner.
  8. 00:59:498 (1) - Delete NC here, it's not necessary.
  9. 01:04:498 (1,2) - I'm starting to wonder if these are rankable..
  10. 01:04:498 (1) - This should end here 01:04:843 - on the strong beat, and add a circle here 01:05:015 - | You could also make this 01:05:187 (2) - a normal 1/2 slider that starts here 01:05:360 - and put a circle here 01:05:187 - I know the sliders may look cool, but it's imo not worth skipping these strong beats. (Btw, u can do Ctrl+Shift+S to shorten the slider when you have selected it.)
  11. 01:12:429 (11,1) - Please avoid this overlap here, the spacing is way too low too.
  12. 01:28:032 (8) - I don't hear anything to support this note here. But i hear something here 01:27:860 - You could make that a triple.
  13. 01:34:153 (11) - Well yeah, you decide to skip those strong beats again, not a good idea since it's and Extra diff.
  14. 02:12:084 - Same as last part like this 00:54:843 -
  15. 02:43:808 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 -
  16. 02:45:877 (7) - Why use so many anchor points lol.
  17. 02:47:601 (2) - Please blanket it properly: http://puu.sh/olnEL/dace5f4e71.jpg
  18. 02:54:843 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 -
  19. 03:05:877 (1,2) - U know what i will say here i guess :o


  • Poggo's Extra

  1. Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 -
  2. Concurent volume value for red-green line: 03:15:595 - 03:17:608 -
  3. 00:14:843 (1) - Not necessary to change, but maybe make it symmetrical by moving the red anchor point to the middle like: http://puu.sh/oloR1/f1f5c0c244.jpg
  4. 00:15:532 (2) - Same as above ^
  5. 00:23:808 - It's not recommended to make the strong beat not clickable..
  6. 00:33:463 (1,1) - Stack properly or avoid the overlap?
  7. 00:57:084 (1) - This NC isn't needed.
  8. 01:01:222 (7) - Why skip this strong beat at 01:01:394 - It's too strong to be skipped, otherwise it play awkward.
  9. 01:03:291 (3) - Try to delete this, and add a circle here 01:03:463 - that stacks on 01:03:636 (4) 's head. It fits more with the music.
  10. 01:08:118 (1) - Unneeded NC. Same with 01:10:705 (1) -
  11. 01:12:256 (9) - Same principle as 01:01:222 (7) - Skipping the way stronger beat is not recommended, and plays awkward.
  12. 01:13:463 (1) - Well this one starts on the white tick which makes it more natural to be NC, so this is correct NCed lol.
  13. 01:16:653 (6) - There's no supporting sound here for a circle, while there is here 01:16:825 -
  14. 01:27:860 - Maybe add a circle here?
  15. 01:29:498 (1) - NC here is not needed.
  16. 01:31:394 (1) - Welp, you keep skipping those stronger beats, i don't need to point them out anymore since you probably won't change them :o
  17. 02:24:498 (1) - Ok, i'll stop mentioning it now D:


  • Another

  1. Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 -
  2. 00:36:049 (2) - Ctrl+G? The flow is better like that.
  3. 00:43:118 (3) - This slider is not complimenting anything which makes it random. A normal arc-shaped slider would look and fit much better.
  4. 00:57:601 (5) - Same as above..
  5. 00:59:498 (1) - NC here is not really needed.
  6. 01:14:153 (5) - Same as 00:57:601 (5) -
  7. 01:10:532 (1) - NC not needed.
  8. 02:18:291 (9,10) - Why such a low spacing here?
  9. 02:27:774 (1) - NC not needed.
  10. 02:43:808 (1,2) - I don't think these sliders are rankable tbh.
  11. 02:50:705 (6) - NC?


  • FCL's Insane

  1. Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595
  2. 00:36:912 (1,2) - Stack properly.
  3. 01:20:877 (2,1) - Stacking these kinda breaks the flow, try to move it to somewhere like x:332 y:44 instead
  4. 01:27:601 (5) - Ctrl+G? It give a nice up and down flow.
  5. 01:34:843 (1,3) - Blanket properly? Like this: http://puu.sh/olvdL/83ef72fc59.jpg And then move this 01:35:877 (4) - Closer to the previous object.
  6. 02:24:153 (5,1) - This blanket can be improved.
  7. 02:26:912 (5) - Try something like this instead: http://puu.sh/olvtk/9ec29f1ab4.jpg
  8. 03:03:118 (1,2,3) - Please improve this blanket.


  • Shadren's Light Insane

  1. 02:10:704 (1,2,3) - It's not same DS as 02:10:963 (4,5,6,7,8) - You should probably make it the same so it's consistent. Try not to use gridsnap when u make a stream, so it's more clean.
  2. 02:15:015 (1) - Combo here is not needed.
  3. 02:43:808 (1,2) - Blanket this properly.


  • Feedback


    I my opinion, the harder diffs could be polished more. Most of the objects are not mapped to the right beat, and makes it awkward to play.. There's some spacing issues too, but most of them are not that important to change. Again, it's only my opinion, and i recommend you to think about it.

    Nice map, good luck!
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
J1NX1337
Will be applying mods for Shadren since he'll be inactive. Not sure about Poggo yet but I'll reply if she's too busy.

-Tochi wrote:

m4m o/

  • General

  1. Inconsistency in Combo Colours. - It's fine to have those for GDs
  2. The following hitsounds are not proper blank (0 - 5 ms lenght): normal-sliderslide.wav - Fixed


  • Madness

  1. Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 - Fixed
  2. 00:27:601 (5,6) - Why is the spacing here so big, and blanketing this 00:27:774 (6,7) - makes it awkward to play because of how big the previous spacing is. Try to move this 00:27:601 (5) - to x:330 y:303 (basically stack under the sliderend of this 00:25:877 (1) - ) It makes it less awkward to play, and flows better. - Yeah I've been wanting to do something about this for a while now. Initially I tried to preserve the square pattern but in the end I got kinda sick of it because of how it plays. Remade the pattern with better music emphasis and positioned 00:27:774 (6,7) - further away from each other. It might be I'll still have to do something more about it at some point.
  3. 00:28:636 (1,2,3) - It looks random when the spacing isn't consistent after the sliderend, it happens several of times too. Keeping it consistent shows that it's a part of the pattern, and there's no sign to make a new pattern on those two circles. It only makes it look random. - You got a point there. This was back when I tried to learn how to emphasize song intensity more but in this case it'd arguably be better to keep the spacing consistent. Fixed.
  4. 00:29:843 (1,2) - Please reduce this huge jump here. The song is not intense enough for this spacing. Try to move this 00:29:843 (1) - to x:396 y:160 (basically stack the head on 00:28:463 (8) - Did some pattern remaking.)
  5. 00:30:705 (4,5,1) - I'm not a fan of these kinda flows, but that's only my opinion. But still consider to change it a bit, maybe do ctrl+g on 00:31:394 (1) - - Also did pattern remaking here.
  6. 00:32:774 (1,2,3) - This doesn't really make sense. Why is the spacing here 00:32:774 (1,2) - bigger than this break here 00:33:118 (2,3) - ? Try something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4949840 instead, it clears the awkward spacing. - Also remade this. lol
  7. 00:54:843 (1) - Move the spinner one tick to the right, and add a circle here 00:54:843 - since it's a strong beat which should be clickable. It doesn't make much sense to ignore it with a spinner. - Alright.
  8. 00:59:498 (1) - Delete NC here, it's not necessary. - I prefer to begin these jump patterns with a new combo.
  9. 01:04:498 (1,2) - I'm starting to wonder if these are rankable.. - They are, yes. They're not that uncommonly found in ranked maps. lol
  10. 01:04:498 (1) - This should end here 01:04:843 - on the strong beat, and add a circle here 01:05:015 - | You could also make this 01:05:187 (2) - a normal 1/2 slider that starts here 01:05:360 - and put a circle here 01:05:187 - I know the sliders may look cool, but it's imo not worth skipping these strong beats. (Btw, u can do Ctrl+Shift+S to shorten the slider when you have selected it.) - You have a point but I think I'll keep these for now since I do stuff with them later on as well quite a few times, and changing them would probably mess things up. I think it works alright even if I don't emphasize the beat on 01:04:843 -
  11. 01:12:429 (11,1) - Please avoid this overlap here, the spacing is way too low too. - Oops, that was supposed to be 1/8 beat separated. Fixed. lol
  12. 01:28:032 (8) - I don't hear anything to support this note here. But i hear something here 01:27:860 - You could make that a triple. - Ah, good catch! I thought I originally heard a triplet sound somewhere here but probably ended up placing it at the wrong place it seems. Moved the triplet to the preceding beats.
  13. 01:34:153 (11) - Well yeah, you decide to skip those strong beats again, not a good idea since it's and Extra diff. - Yeah, changed this one for consistency's sake with 00:27:946 (7,8) - but it took me like 4 hours remaking the pattern until I was happy with it lmao
  14. 02:12:084 - Same as last part like this 00:54:843 - - Added a circle.
  15. 02:43:808 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 - - Will keep for now.
  16. 02:45:877 (7) - Why use so many anchor points lol. - ? It should be a bezier slider in the up to date version.
  17. 02:47:601 (2) - Please blanket it properly: http://puu.sh/olnEL/dace5f4e71.jpg - That would ruin the star pattern. If I decide to remake this pattern, I will, though.
  18. 02:54:843 (1,2) - Same as 01:05:015 - - Will keep for now.
  19. 03:05:877 (1,2) - U know what i will say here i guess :o - Yeah, same. lol


  • Another

  1. Useless green line over red (no SV changes): 03:15:595 - - Removed it.
  2. 00:36:049 (2) - Ctrl+G? The flow is better like that. - Hmm, not a bad idea but I think I'll keep it the way it is, since the end of 00:36:049 (2) - fits better with the vocals than it would if I Ctrl+G'd it. I'll change it if anyone else recommends it.
  3. 00:43:118 (3) - This slider is not complimenting anything which makes it random. A normal arc-shaped slider would look and fit much better. - The shape's not such a big problem but the rhythm here was a bit off, so changed it in the process.
  4. 00:57:601 (5) - Same as above.. - I think it's fine.
  5. 00:59:498 (1) - NC here is not really needed. - I like to start these jump patterns with a new combo.
  6. 01:14:153 (5) - Same as 00:57:601 (5) - - Also fine imo.
  7. 01:10:532 (1) - NC not needed. - Same.
  8. 02:18:291 (9,10) - Why such a low spacing here? - Well, no reason in specific but it goes pretty well with the pattern imo.
  9. 02:27:774 (1) - NC not needed. - Same.
  10. 02:43:808 (1,2) - I don't think these sliders are rankable tbh. - They are. lol
  11. 02:50:705 (6) - NC? - That would kinda mess with my combo length consistency, so nah.


  • Shadren's Light Insane

  1. 02:10:704 (1,2,3) - It's not same DS as 02:10:963 (4,5,6,7,8) - You should probably make it the same so it's consistent. Try not to use gridsnap when u make a stream, so it's more clean. - Well I remade it with grid snap off and it really doesn't change anything even visually. lol
  2. 02:15:015 (1) - Combo here is not needed. - Removing it would make the combo way too long compared to the others, and I think this is the best place to NC considering that.
  3. 02:43:808 (1,2) - Blanket this properly. - Blanketed properly!


  • Feedback


    I my opinion, the harder diffs could be polished more. Most of the objects are not mapped to the right beat, and makes it awkward to play.. There's some spacing issues too, but most of them are not that important to change. Again, it's only my opinion, and i recommend you to think about it. - Yeah, the Madness diff is the oldest one, and there are parts in it that I made like a year back, so there are bound to be some parts in it that could be improved. lol

    Nice map, good luck!
Thank you! Your mod was quite helpful. :)
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