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-Latias-
One Of my first mods so might not be too helpful :D

Normal

00:09:453 There should be a spinner there, to avoid the gap from that time to 00:11:162, this time b/c it feels to match up with the song

00:15:719 Perhaps add a note here to avoid gap

01:07:174 This slider feels a bit to short to me, make it a very little longer

Memories

00:09:453 Again from Normal I think there should be spinner here, to avoid gap and is a little more common to have as it is insane, and if You put spinner I would reccomend to end at 00:10:497

00:22:581 This stack does not feel it matches with song, If I were you i would only put one not there

From 00:41:637 to 00:42:396 this is completely my opinion. This stream and slider at the end should not be a straight line going in a angle. It should be more in a circle so it would feel more smooth

Your easy and hard was perfect as far as I could tell

Hope this helps and good luck on getting it ranked ! :)
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

captainlatias wrote:

One Of my first mods so might not be too helpful :D

Normal

00:09:453 There should be a spinner there, to avoid the gap from that time to 00:11:162, this time b/c it feels to match up with the song :arrow: No, I want to put a break for players to relax before coming to the song

00:15:719 Perhaps add a note here to avoid gap :arrow: It doesn't catch anything

01:07:174 This slider feels a bit to short to me, make it a very little longer :arrow: It follows the instrument

Memories

00:09:453 Again from Normal I think there should be spinner here, to avoid gap and is a little more common to have as it is insane, and if You put spinner I would reccomend to end at 00:10:497 :arrow: As I said

00:22:581 This stack does not feel it matches with song, If I were you i would only put one not there :arrow: I want it to be a various place, it makes sense for me

From 00:41:637 to 00:42:396 this is completely my opinion. This stream and slider at the end should not be a straight line going in a angle. It should be more in a circle so it would feel more smooth :arrow: i don't understand your idea much here, but i feel it's fine

Your easy and hard was perfect as far as I could tell

Hope this helps and good luck on getting it ranked ! :)
Although I didn't know when I asked you for mod but thank you for taking your time :D
Doyak
[General]
* Hard/Memories: 00:02:152 - red/green line's volume should be same. Change the red one's volume to 20% or green one to 30%.

[Sekai's Easy]
* 00:15:909 - This sounds bad because there's no actual sound on the sliderend so I'd suggest to remove the whistle and lower the volume there.
* 00:18:567 - Pretty much same too, especially I don't know why there's even a whistle. Emphasizing an empty spot with a hitsound? I think it should be opposite.
* 00:17:807 (3,1) - Swap NC, and add 00:20:845 - here
* 00:32:997 (3) - Add NC
* 01:16:858 - This is the strongest beat here, so could you use something different to represent it?
* 01:25:592 (2,3) - DS error
Here's a bit of Xinely's opinion about the quiet part so check these if you agree too.


[Mochi's Hard]
* AR 7.5 seems better, considering the density and some jumps.
* 00:08:504 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is denser than Insane, and 2 is relatively much weaker than 1,3,5 so I doubt if it deserves to be clicked.
* 00:15:909 (4,1) - I doubt if 4 is needed. This part already requires more clicks than the hardest diff, and this is where the hardest diff put a sliderend instead of a click. And 00:16:288 - is much much stronger than 4 so you lost emphasis on actual strong beats imo.
* 00:41:352 (4,5,6) - This is very doubtful. Hard players are not expecting to focus on clicking blue ticks instead of white/red ticks, even twice consecutively. So use http://puu.sh/qzRtn/6953961add.jpg instead.
* 01:25:972 (6,1,2,3) - Again this feels weird and denser than the hardest diff. You can hear the melodies are on 01:25:972 - 01:26:352 - 01:26:731 - and the clicks are ignoring 01:26:352 - this significant beat, while 01:26:162 - this weak beat is being clicked.

Call me back after fixing.
Momochikun
Fixed, i used a bit different rhythm though. thanks !
where is oyacchi ;w;

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ArtistUnicode:佐々木恵梨
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Topic Starter
Oyatsu
Fixed all (expect the last one of Xinely - 00:17:807 (1) - 3/2 slider repeat really is used too many, and it will be over if changing this too)
Thank you for your good mod. It helped my map be improved much. :D
@Updated Mochi's Hard
Doyak
Wow you finally replied xD I'll recheck this soon. But I think you didn't fix 00:32:997 (3) - NC on Sekai's diff? It's longer than others atm.
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Doyak wrote:

Wow you finally replied xD I'll recheck this soon. But I think you didn't fix 00:32:997 (3) - NC on Sekai's diff? It's longer than others atm.
Sorry for being late, hihi. With this, I want to keep currently because this combo was just 2 if I added NC, so I wanna make it longer. It is on the point of avoiding overused in combo-color.
Doyak
recheck

Easy: 00:17:807 - 00:21:605 - add whistle maybe?

That's all.
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Doyak wrote:

recheck

Easy: 00:17:807 - 00:21:605 - add whistle maybe?

That's all.
First one - I added soft-finish instead as 00:11:731 - second one I added whistle as you said. Thank you !
Doyak
Nominated.
Pentori
hi

[General]
add tv size to tags

[Sekai's Easy]
00:05:655 (3,1) - blanket could be touched up on
00:41:352 - the sound here is more of a clap than a whistle and is consistent with other claps
01:05:845 (2) - such a strong beat + introduction of kiai. could you make this clickable please

[Normal]
00:05:466 (3) - perhaps change to 1/2 slider. you mapped the both violin notes here 00:06:035 (4,5)
00:09:073 (4) - the drum you've mapped to won't really be heard by a beginner player and they will most likely play the sound on 00:09:263 - because its so dominant. i suggest sticking to the most obvious instruments for this diff
00:44:390 (4) - identical to 00:47:428 (4) - therefore you should add soft-whistle
01:04:137 - sound like a whistle rather than a clap

[Momochikun's Hard]
00:14:769 - it feels wrong to prioritise vocals over the piano here. i'd make this clickable, similar to something you did at 00:17:807 (1)
00:19:326 (1,2,3) - hm i honestly dont think 3 single taps suits the pace of the music here. why not replace with either a 1/2 repeat or 1/1 slider?
00:33:567 (2,3) - stack to reduce spacing. i feel ds is too high without a sufficient lead in
00:48:472 (4) - i see this as a reading hazard. triplets would work better since the player is already playing one, they'll be caught off guard by the variation
00:50:276 (3,3) - not quite stacked
00:52:554 (3) - ^ and then move this too
01:11:352 (2) - 58|127 for some slightly improved aesthetics

[Memories]
01:10:592 - missing clap
01:26:352 (4) - nc
01:26:731 (1) - remove nc
the ncs make the polarity change easier to pick up on since distance stays the same

you may call me back
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Pentori wrote:

hi

[General]
add tv size to tags

[Sekai's Easy]
00:05:655 (3,1) - blanket could be touched up on
00:41:352 - the sound here is more of a clap than a whistle and is consistent with other claps
01:05:845 (2) - such a strong beat + introduction of kiai. could you make this clickable please :arrow: I don't really understand your idea here.

[Normal]
00:05:466 (3) - perhaps change to 1/2 slider. you mapped the both violin notes here 00:06:035 (4,5)
00:09:073 (4) - the drum you've mapped to won't really be heard by a beginner player and they will most likely play the sound on 00:09:263 - because its so dominant. i suggest sticking to the most obvious instruments for this diff :arrow: I don't realize any problems here because 2 drums are very clean and loud, they can play normally. It isn't a suitable reason to change them.
00:44:390 (4) - identical to 00:47:428 (4) - therefore you should add soft-whistle
01:04:137 - sound like a whistle rather than a clap

[Memories]
01:10:592 - missing clap
01:26:352 (4) - nc :arrow: I don't wanna spam NC, drum also belongs to previous rhythm 01:25:972 (3) -
01:26:731 (1) - remove nc :arrow: the last note, also a finish sound, it is different from previous drums.
the ncs make the polarity change easier to pick up on since distance stays the same

you may call me back
Thank you alot ! no cmt = fixed :D
Momochikun

Pentori wrote:

hi



[Momochikun's Hard]
00:14:769 - it feels wrong to prioritise vocals over the piano here. i'd make this clickable, similar to something you did at 00:17:807 (1) it feels fine for me as it's still emphasized by a hit. also i want a variety and not all stuff covered by smth clickable
00:19:326 (1,2,3) - hm i honestly dont think 3 single taps suits the pace of the music here. why not replace with either a 1/2 repeat or 1/1 slider? nope, i like that 00:19:326 (1,2,3) - pattern tbh
00:33:567 (2,3) - stack to reduce spacing. i feel ds is too high without a sufficient lead in idk what do you actually mean but i moved them a bit closer
00:48:472 (4) - i see this as a reading hazard. triplets would work better since the player is already playing one, they'll be caught off guard by the variation i personally feels weird to see triplet+slider+duplet. but fixed this one anyway
00:50:276 (3,3) - not quite stacked fixed both
00:52:554 (3) - ^ and then move this too
01:11:352 (2) - 58|127 for some slightly improved aesthetics lol, ok

you may call me back
thanks for modding :3

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Pentori
recheck

[Sekai's Easy]

Oyatsu wrote:

Pentori wrote:

01:05:845 (2) - such a strong beat + introduction of kiai. could you make this clickable please :arrow: I don't really understand your idea here.
i was suggesting to make 01:06:415 - not end on the slider because its an important beat and make it something clickable instead. let me know what you think

[Normal]
00:32:048 (5,1) - inconsistent spacing. players will mistake for 3/2 rhythm like 00:30:529 (2,3) . make it a bit larger like 00:29:200 (5,1)

[Mochi's Hard]

Momochikun wrote:

Pentori wrote:

00:48:472 (4) - i see this as a reading hazard. triplets would work better since the player is already playing one, they'll be caught off guard by the variation i personally feels weird to see triplet+slider+duplet. but fixed this one anyway
why use 0.6x ds here? 00:50:276 (3,4,5) - uses 0.4x, please make it consistent
00:57:966 - clap instead of whistle. like u had for 00:54:928 (4) - 00:56:447 (3)

[Memories]
00:57:966 - clap instead of whistle. like u had for 00:54:928 (4) - 00:56:447 (3)
Doyak

Pentori wrote:

recheck

[Sekai's Easy]

Oyatsu wrote:

01:05:845 (2) - such a strong beat + introduction of kiai. could you make this clickable please :arrow: I don't really understand your idea here.
i was suggesting to make 01:06:415 - not end on the slider because its an important beat and make it something clickable instead. let me know what you think imo it's okay since this is Easy diff and better than making a polarity issue there by using a 3/2 gap. Also it covers all the 7 drums there so yeah.

[Normal]
00:32:048 (5,1) - inconsistent spacing. players will mistake for 3/2 rhythm like 00:30:529 (2,3) . make it a bit larger like 00:29:200 (5,1) Yea why did I miss it ;w;

[Mochi's Hard]

Momochikun wrote:

00:48:472 (4) - i see this as a reading hazard. triplets would work better since the player is already playing one, they'll be caught off guard by the variation i personally feels weird to see triplet+slider+duplet. but fixed this one anyway
why use 0.6x ds here? 00:50:276 (3,4,5) - uses 0.4x, please make it consistent Not only there, but 01:13:630 (3,4,5) - is 0.5x and 01:24:833 (2,3,4) - is 0.6x if you go strict, which I didn't care much.
00:57:966 - clap instead of whistle. like u had for 00:54:928 (4) - 00:56:447 (3)

[Memories]
00:57:966 - clap instead of whistle. like u had for 00:54:928 (4) - 00:56:447 (3)
Momochikun
It's not an obligatory to make all of them have the same spacing, the same applies to jump. you dont need to make all your jumps got consistent ds isn't ?
as player won't visually recognize them during gameplay anyway.

oyacchi pls add the clap for me ><

anyway for Memories you might consider adding NC at 00:49:896 (3) - and 01:26:352 (4) - since it's pretty confusing to read as 1/1 imo
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Pentori wrote:

recheck

[Sekai's Easy]
i was suggesting to make 01:06:415 - not end on the slider because its an important beat and make it something clickable instead. let me know what you think
:arrow: Yeah, as Doyak said. Since this is an Easy diff, I think you have no better other ways than this which you can reduce difficulty and still keep the beat. I agree with you that it's an important beat. But unless you ignore them via 3/2 sliders, you have to catch all drums and they will creat many many 1/2 rhythms which aren't suitable for an "Easy". I will keep this.
[Normal]
00:32:048 (5,1) - inconsistent spacing. players will mistake for 3/2 rhythm like 00:30:529 (2,3) . make it a bit larger like 00:29:200 (5,1) I'm following the voice, so they seem to be not the same together. Insstead of that, I changed 00:29:959 (1,2) - into be the same as 00:31:478 (4,5) - in order to be consistent.

[Mochi's Hard]
For mochi's problem, I have some opinions for this. I think that changing alitltle like these aren't a big problem, it doesn't have a serious influence on diff. I think Mochi made them on purpose to make patterns following his aim. Also, in gameplay, players can't realize them directly and of course they are still readable as 1/4 rhythm. So, I think it would be ok.
Added clap
[Memories]
00:57:966 - clap instead of whistle. like u had for 00:54:928 (4) - 00:56:447 (3) :arrow: Added

Momochikun wrote:

anyway for Memories you might consider adding NC at 00:49:896 (3) - and 01:26:352 (4) - since it's pretty confusing to read as 1/1 imo :arrow: I'm really tricking them on purpose. I wanna make something special and abit more difficult 8-) It isn't too difficult to be able to realize
Thank you ! :)
Pentori
ok, i'm happy with these changes.

qualified!
Pho
:)
LMT
grats oyaaaa :v
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Oyatsu

Pentori wrote:

ok, i'm happy with these changes.

qualified!
Finally, 16 months :'( thank you very very much, Pento-chan :*
Sotarks
omg speedrank
Akasha-
wow, congratulations senpoi <3
-Latias-
Congrats <3
Narcissu
44 slider is rule…… although it is stupid and you have changed

you use a different mp3, but they are the same source …… I can hardly explain why the timing is wrong because this involves audio production and im lazy. i still suggest you use my timing ……

if you care about it you can ask for pish, if not just keep it because its only 10ms mean difference
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Narcissu wrote:

44 slider is rule…… although it is stupid and you have changed

you use a different mp3, but they are the same source …… I can hardly explain why the timing is wrong because this involves audio production and im lazy. i still suggest you use my timing ……

if you care about it you can ask for pish, if not just keep it because its only 10ms mean difference
What do you mean for 44 sliders? Sorry, but this mp3 I used, this map was created before all of ranked map of this song. And mp3 was checked by Beatofike, I always trust in him and he is really also experienced. Why must I use your mp3? And as you said, every mp3 has its own timing. So ? And at least, it doesn't influence players in game play, and playable. It doesn't have any unrankable issues. Thank you for caring!
Pentori
@Narcissu 44 byte sliders are used. maybe you just didn't redownload?
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