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LiSA - Shirushi -TV ver.- [Taiko]

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streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 6 września 2016 at 18:58:24

Artist: LiSA
Title: Shirushi -TV ver.-
Source: ソードアート・オンラインⅡ
Tags: ending Sword Art Online sao kirito asuna TV size Mother's Rosario yuuki
BPM: 146
Filesize: 2504kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1,71 stars, 161 notes)
  2. Kantan (1,19 stars, 101 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2,22 stars, 223 notes)
Download: LiSA - Shirushi -TV ver.-
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Maybe sad, but moving ending. I personally love this track.

All diffs by me
Last edited by streeteelf , edited 29 times in total.
[R]
1,050 posts
Joined November 2013
[R]
Suggestion

[General]
set "Preview Point" first, i recommended 00:57:990 -
tab>timing>set this preview point
[Muzukashi]
00:03:024 - k
00:06:312 - d
00:52:339 - K
-Sh1n1-
3,402 posts
Joined September 2012
-Sh1n1-
Hi~~ (from M4M)

[General]

  1. Uncheck "widescreen support"
[Kantan]

  1. 00:09:600 (11) - delete because the song is decreasing and I can hear anything here
  2. 00:09:189 (10) - change to o for consistency with 00:10:833 (13) -
  3. 00:18:641 (20) - delete is not necessary, Kantan need to be calm, save this pattern for Futsuu :P
  4. 00:22:750 (26) - same as above ^
  5. 00:22:339 (25) - change to o to keep balance between 00:21:518 (24,27) -
  6. 00:27:682 (36) - remove this note to add more emphasis to preview note ( 00:27:271 (35) - ) follow paino sound better
  7. I feel that this note 00:34:257 (47) - is more necessary at 00:33:435 - because the song is decreasing 00:33:024 (45,46,47,48) -
  8. 00:38:778 (53) - delete to add a break
  9. 00:42:065 (57) - change to o because 00:42:065 (57,58,59,60) - is the same note increasing volume
  10. 00:48:230 (65) - delete, 00:47:819 (64,65,66,67,68) - five notes too closer at kantan is hard for newbies imo.
  11. 00:58:093 (1) - and 00:58:915 (3) - remove both, give time to players to recover the rhythm after 00:56:038 (1) -
  12. 01:06:312 (15) - delete, follow the voice better.
  13. 01:10:011 (20) - delete to add a break and mark the second part of kiai.
  14. 01:11:655 (22,23,24) - you follow the voice fantastic here.
  15. 01:16:997 (30) - delete I gave you my reason before, 01:16:586 (29,30,31,32,33) - too much at kantan D:
  16. 01:24:394 (40) - I can't hear anything, Did you?
[Futsuu]

  1. 00:09:600 (14) - delete, same as kantan, sound is decreasing here
  2. 00:19:463 (26) - delete add some breaks
  3. 00:22:750 (33) - same as above ^
  4. 00:26:860 (42) - remove
  5. I feel that 00:28:504 (45) - is more necessary at 00:29:326 - followin piano.
  6. 00:29:737 (47) - move to 00:30:148 - and 00:30:559 (48) - change to o
  7. 00:30:970 (49) - delete to add a break.
  8. 00:32:613 (53) - move to 00:33:435 -
  9. 00:35:079 (58) - delete, you need breaks x_x
  10. 00:38:367 (67) - ^
  11. 00:39:189 (69) - ^
  12. from 00:42:887 - to 00:51:107 - you don't have breaks DDD: try to reduce some notes.
  13. 01:06:312 (17) - break
  14. 01:20:696 (47) - not necessary~~ delete
  15. 01:24:394 (55) - I can't hear anything. same as kantan x_x
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:03:024 (3) - change to o for a general consistency, you did o on Futsuu
  2. 00:09:600 (20) - not necessary, remove
  3. 00:30:764 (44) - this note can be at 00:30:353 - It's up to you
  4. 01:12:887 (57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65) - delete all o o o o o 01:12:887 - 01:13:709 - 01:14:531 - 01:15:353 - 01:16:175 -
That's all from me, GL
streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf

[R] wrote:

Suggestion

[General]
set "Preview Point" first, i recommended 00:57:990 -
tab>timing>set this preview point -
[Muzukashi]
00:03:024 - k
00:06:312 - d
00:52:339 - K

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Hi~~ (from M4M)

[General]

  1. Uncheck "widescreen support"
[Kantan]

  1. 00:09:600 (11) - delete because the song is decreasing and I can hear anything here
  2. 00:09:189 (10) - change to o for consistency with 00:10:833 (13) -
  3. 00:18:641 (20) - delete is not necessary, Kantan need to be calm, save this pattern for Futsuu :P
  4. 00:22:750 (26) - same as above ^
  5. 00:22:339 (25) - change to o to keep balance between 00:21:518 (24,27) -
  6. 00:27:682 (36) - remove this note to add more emphasis to preview note ( 00:27:271 (35) - ) follow paino sound better
  7. I feel that this note 00:34:257 (47) - is more necessary at 00:33:435 - because the song is decreasing 00:33:024 (45,46,47,48) -
  8. 00:38:778 (53) - delete to add a break
  9. 00:42:065 (57) - change to o because 00:42:065 (57,58,59,60) - is the same note increasing volume
  10. 00:48:230 (65) - delete, 00:47:819 (64,65,66,67,68) - five notes too closer at kantan is hard for newbies imo.
  11. 00:58:093 (1) - and 00:58:915 (3) - remove both, give time to players to recover the rhythm after 00:56:038 (1) -
  12. 01:06:312 (15) - delete, follow the voice better.
  13. 01:10:011 (20) - delete to add a break and mark the second part of kiai.
  14. 01:11:655 (22,23,24) - you follow the voice fantastic here.
  15. 01:16:997 (30) - delete I gave you my reason before, 01:16:586 (29,30,31,32,33) - too much at kantan D:
  16. 01:24:394 (40) - I can't hear anything, Did you?
[Futsuu]

  1. 00:09:600 (14) - delete, same as kantan, sound is decreasing here
  2. 00:19:463 (26) - delete add some breaks
  3. 00:22:750 (33) - same as above ^
  4. 00:26:860 (42) - remove
  5. I feel that 00:28:504 (45) - is more necessary at 00:29:326 - followin piano.
  6. 00:29:737 (47) - move to 00:30:148 - and 00:30:559 (48) - change to o
  7. 00:30:970 (49) - delete to add a break.
  8. 00:32:613 (53) - move to 00:33:435 -
  9. 00:35:079 (58) - delete, you need breaks x_x
  10. 00:38:367 (67) - ^
  11. 00:39:189 (69) - ^
  12. from 00:42:887 - to 00:51:107 - you don't have breaks DDD: try to reduce some notes.
  13. 01:06:312 (17) - break
  14. 01:20:696 (47) - not necessary~~ delete
  15. 01:24:394 (55) - I can't hear anything. same as kantan x_x
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:03:024 (3) - change to o for a general consistency, you did o on Futsuu
  2. 00:09:600 (20) - not necessary, remove
  3. 00:30:764 (44) - this note can be at 00:30:353 - It's up to you
  4. 01:12:887 (57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65) - delete all o o o o o 01:12:887 - 01:13:709 - 01:14:531 - 01:15:353 - 01:16:175 -
That's all from me, GL
Thanks for mods. :3 All R's applied. -Sh1n1-, I applied when you wanted to add break and nearly all color changes, but not these when you wanted delete, because of sounds. That was mapped with vocal to be intuitive, that's why I can't really delete them.
Intelli
842 posts
Joined July 2014
Intelli
m4m :D

(I pm'd you details)

Kantan:
  1. 00:14:942 - d

  2. 00:18:230 - 00:28:093 - Ok, (Each character is a white line):

  3. d k d k d k d kdd d k d d

  4. 00:51:107 - This and 00:52:339 add finishers

  5. 00:51:723 - add K(with finisher)

  6. 01:19:668 - add d

  7. 01:20:285 - k

  8. 01:24:394 - Move to 01:24:805 , it's incredibly strange sounding to play like this, although it makes sense.
Nice, but I would try to follow the rhythm/sounds more.

Futsuu:
  1. 00:10:833 - Switch with 00:11:655

  2. 00:14:942 - d

  3. 00:20:285 - Remove

  4. 00:26:038 - k

  5. 00:33:024 - Change to kddkk

  6. 00:40:833 - Swap with 00:41:244

  7. 00:51:107 - Next 3 notes add Finish (D D Kdkddk)

  8. 00:58:093 - k

  9. 00:58:709 - Add d

  10. 01:09:189 - K (add finish)

  11. 01:12:576 - ^

  12. 01:24:805 - Add k

  13. 01:25:422 - Add d
Loved the inclusion of those dk kd and dk kdkd rhythms. Creative!

Muzukashii:
  1. 00:04:463 - d

  2. 00:05:696 - d

  3. 00:10:833 - Swap with 00:11:655

  4. 00:14:942 - d

  5. 00:35:079 - kdk

  6. 00:40:422 - Swap with 00:40:833

  7. 00:51:107 - Next 3 notes add finishers (D K K)

  8. 00:52:750 - Move these 3 notes over a red tick, making one big stream there (ddkddkdk)

  9. 01:24:805 - Swap with 01:25:113
DT singletap map inc
streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf

IntelliTroodon wrote:

m4m :D

(I pm'd you details)

Kantan:
  1. 00:14:942 - d

  2. 00:18:230 - 00:28:093 - Ok, (Each character is a white line):

  3. d k d k d k d kdd d k d d

  4. 00:51:107 - This and 00:52:339 add finishers

  5. 00:51:723 - add K(with finisher)

  6. 01:19:668 - add d

  7. 01:20:285 - k

  8. 01:24:394 - Move to 01:24:805 , it's incredibly strange sounding to play like this, although it makes sense.
Nice, but I would try to follow the rhythm/sounds more.

Futsuu:
  1. 00:10:833 - Switch with 00:11:655

  2. 00:14:942 - d

  3. 00:20:285 - Remove

  4. 00:26:038 - k

  5. 00:33:024 - Change to kddkk

  6. 00:40:833 - Swap with 00:41:244

  7. 00:51:107 - Next 3 notes add Finish (D D Kdkddk)

  8. 00:58:093 - k

  9. 00:58:709 - Add d

  10. 01:09:189 - K (add finish)

  11. 01:12:576 - ^

  12. 01:24:805 - Add k

  13. 01:25:422 - Add d
Loved the inclusion of those dk kd and dk kdkd rhythms. Creative!

Muzukashii:
  1. 00:04:463 - d

  2. 00:05:696 - d

  3. 00:10:833 - Swap with 00:11:655

  4. 00:14:942 - d

  5. 00:35:079 - kdk

  6. 00:40:422 - Swap with 00:40:833

  7. 00:51:107 - Next 3 notes add finishers (D K K)

  8. 00:52:750 - Move these 3 notes over a red tick, making one big stream there (ddkddkdk)

  9. 01:24:805 - Swap with 01:25:113
DT singletap map inc
Sry for delay with reply, but all accepted. :P
Nyan
1,455 posts
Joined September 2008
Nyan
[Kantan]

00:12:887 (15) - can be d (same part of Futsuu there is ddk which sounds good. but Kantan have no d between two sounds, it can be d)
00:28:915 (31,32,33) - can be kkk
00:59:326 (4) - can add a Finish
01:09:189 (18) - can be converted as a slider
01:24:805 (38) - can be k

[Futsuu]

Futsuu usually not use 1/2 notes with different colors.
00:37:134 (56,57,58,59) - here is my suggestion.

from original version

to alternate version

00:59:326 (4) - can add a Finish
01:03:846 (10,11,12,13) - change to ddd d or dd dd

01:16:586 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - this part is absolutely muzukashii diff. I think you can decrease this part's difficulty.

[Muzukashii]

00:10:011 (20,21) - remove Finish
00:40:011 (77,78,79,80) - d k d D
00:52:956 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119) - can be k d d k k d k k with drum sound
00:59:326 (8) - can add a Finish
01:25:113 (96) - k

good and relaxing map!
streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Nyan wrote:

[Kantan]

00:12:887 (15) - can be d (same part of Futsuu there is ddk which sounds good. but Kantan have no d between two sounds, it can be d)
00:28:915 (31,32,33) - can be kkk
00:59:326 (4) - can add a Finish
01:09:189 (18) - can be converted as a slider
01:24:805 (38) - can be k

[Futsuu]

Futsuu usually not use 1/2 notes with different colors.
00:37:134 (56,57,58,59) - here is my suggestion.

from original version

to alternate version

00:59:326 (4) - can add a Finish
01:03:846 (10,11,12,13) - change to ddd d or dd dd

01:16:586 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - this part is absolutely muzukashii diff. I think you can decrease this part's difficulty.

[Muzukashii]

00:10:011 (20,21) - remove Finish
00:40:011 (77,78,79,80) - d k d D
00:52:956 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119) - can be k d d k k d k k with drum sound
00:59:326 (8) - can add a Finish
01:25:113 (96) - k

good and relaxing map!
Damn, forgot to answer after sooooo long time... All accepted. :P
Skeuddy
233 posts
Joined May 2012
Skeuddy
Hi, Streeteelf, from my queue (sry for late)

Kantan
  1. 00:27:271 (29) - k
  2. 00:37:956 (44) - d
  3. 00:49:052 (56) - ^
  4. 01:20:285 (33) - ^
  5. 00:40:422 - Some note (k)
  6. 00:42:476 - ^ (d)
  7. 00:44:120 - ^ (d)
  8. 01:05:079 (12,13) - Swap
  9. 01:06:723 (15,16) - ^
  10. 01:17:408 (28,29) - ^
Futsuu
  1. 00:12:887 (19) - d
  2. 00:19:874 (25) - ^
  3. 00:33:435 (48) - ^
  4. 00:37:750 (58,59) - ^
  5. 01:09:189 (23) - ^
  6. 00:51:723 (110,111) - ^
  7. 00:19:052 (24) - k
  8. 00:42:887 (67,68,69,70) - ^ (and 00:44:531 (71) - d)
  9. 00:29:326 (41,43) - Swap
  10. 00:40:422 (63,64) - ^ (and 00:41:244 (65) - k)
  11. 00:52:339 (86,87) - ^
  12. 01:17:819 (37,38) - ^
Muzukashii
  1. 00:12:887 (25) - d
  2. 00:22:545 (16) - ^
  3. 00:28:709 (36) - ^ (and 00:29:120 (38) - k, 00:29:326 (39,40) - Swap)
  4. 00:24:189 (22,23) - Swap
  5. 00:24:600 (24,25) - ^
  6. 00:38:572 (72,73) - ^
  7. 00:41:244 (80,81) - ^ (and 00:42:065 (82,83) - k)
  8. 00:30:559 (44) - k
  9. 00:33:435 (53) - ^
  10. 00:48:230 (101) - ^
  11. 01:02:819 (20) to 01:02:408
  12. 01:25:422 (97) - Replace on spin

Good luck!
streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Skeuddy wrote:

Hi, Streeteelf, from my queue (sry for late)

Kantan
  1. 00:27:271 (29) - k
  2. 00:37:956 (44) - d
  3. 00:49:052 (56) - ^
  4. 01:20:285 (33) - ^
  5. 00:40:422 - Some note (k)
  6. 00:42:476 - ^ (d)
  7. 00:44:120 - ^ (d)
  8. 01:05:079 (12,13) - Swap
  9. 01:06:723 (15,16) - ^
  10. 01:17:408 (28,29) - ^
Futsuu
  1. 00:12:887 (19) - d
  2. 00:19:874 (25) - ^
  3. 00:33:435 (48) - ^
  4. 00:37:750 (58,59) - ^
  5. 01:09:189 (23) - ^
  6. 00:51:723 (110,111) - ^
  7. 00:19:052 (24) - k
  8. 00:42:887 (67,68,69,70) - ^ (and 00:44:531 (71) - d)
  9. 00:29:326 (41,43) - Swap
  10. 00:40:422 (63,64) - ^ (and 00:41:244 (65) - k)
  11. 00:52:339 (86,87) - ^
  12. 01:17:819 (37,38) - ^
Muzukashii
  1. 00:12:887 (25) - d
  2. 00:22:545 (16) - ^
  3. 00:28:709 (36) - ^ (and 00:29:120 (38) - k, 00:29:326 (39,40) - Swap)
  4. 00:24:189 (22,23) - Swap
  5. 00:24:600 (24,25) - ^
  6. 00:38:572 (72,73) - ^
  7. 00:41:244 (80,81) - ^ (and 00:42:065 (82,83) - k)
  8. 00:30:559 (44) - k
  9. 00:33:435 (53) - ^
  10. 00:48:230 (101) - ^
  11. 01:02:819 (20) to 01:02:408
  12. 01:25:422 (97) - Replace on spin

Good luck!
All applied, thanks. :3
Underforest
5,895 posts
Joined July 2015
Underforest
Hi, from my queue!

Kantan

Don't put to Fast the Approach Rate

00:04:668 (4) - Delete?
00:07:956 (8) - Same
00:12:476 (14) - Same
00:16:586 (17) - Same
00:58:093 (1,2,3) - Same

Fuutsu

Don't put to Fast the Approach Rate

00:16:586 (21) - Delete?
00:37:134 (56,57,58,59) - So fast
00:58:093 (1,2,3) - Delete?
01:16:997 (34,35,36) - So fast

If I helped, give me kudosu (i hope so)
streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf

AlejandroMedia wrote:

Hi, from my queue!

Kantan

Don't put to Fast the Approach Rate

00:04:668 (4) - Delete?
00:07:956 (8) - Same
00:12:476 (14) - Same
00:16:586 (17) - Same
00:58:093 (1,2,3) - Same

Fuutsu

Don't put to Fast the Approach Rate

00:16:586 (21) - Delete?
00:37:134 (56,57,58,59) - So fast
00:58:093 (1,2,3) - Delete?
01:16:997 (34,35,36) - So fast

If I helped, give me kudosu (i hope so)
Late reply, but Kantan is 4/5 fixed, Futsuu 1/4 only, because "too fast" parts are not that fast due to BPM. :)
Underforest
5,895 posts
Joined July 2015
Underforest
2 months and no response? LOL :o
streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf
Ye, I really forgot about this map, so done all I could now, when I finally got another map ranked. :P
mauserek
79 posts
Joined August 2012
mauserek
Small IRC mod
2016-07-03 13:09 streeteelf: Nie chcesz czegoś dla mnie zrobić? xD
2016-07-03 13:09 mauserek: o co chodzi?
2016-07-03 13:09 streeteelf: Potrzebuję 7SP jeszcze na mapie, żeby BN mi ją sprawdził. :P
2016-07-03 13:09 streeteelf: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/683032 LiSA - Shirushi -TV ver.-]
2016-07-03 13:09 streeteelf: Zmodowanie tego
2016-07-03 13:10 mauserek: hmm
2016-07-03 13:11 streeteelf: Jakieś ze 3-4 punkty do zmiany wystarczą szczerze mówiąc. :P
2016-07-03 13:11 streeteelf: Żeby po prostu SP podbić, bo ogólnie mapa już teraz jest rankable
2016-07-03 13:11 streeteelf: Nawet nie musisz wszystkich diffów.
2016-07-03 13:13 mauserek: 00:24:600 (24) - Tutaj nie ma dźwięku
2016-07-03 13:13 streeteelf: Możesz na forum, żebym mógł Ci KDS dać i SP podbić? xD
2016-07-03 13:14 mauserek: mogę dać chatlog
2016-07-03 13:14 streeteelf: Kk
2016-07-03 13:14 mauserek: tam nie ma dźwięku i wydaje mi się że będzie lepiej wyglądało bez tego
2016-07-03 13:15 mauserek: na muzu
2016-07-03 13:16 mauserek: 00:50:490 - wydaje mi się że brzmiałoby lepiej gdybyś tutaj dał coś
2016-07-03 13:16 streeteelf: Poprawione już
2016-07-03 13:17 streeteelf: Done
2016-07-03 13:18 mauserek: część robisz jakby pod wokal, nie?
2016-07-03 13:18 streeteelf: Nom, bo jakby to było w pełni do muzyki to Muzu by było ciężko uzyskać.
2016-07-03 13:18 streeteelf: Ale to jest akceptowalne w tej piosence, bo sporo osób testowało
2016-07-03 13:20 mauserek: 01:11:038 - może dasz tutaj k?
2016-07-03 13:20 streeteelf: Prędzej d z uwagi na 01:11:449 (52) -
2016-07-03 13:21 mauserek: 01:11:244 (52) - to byś dał na d
2016-07-03 13:21 streeteelf: Ale ok, poprawione
2016-07-03 13:21 mauserek: 01:11:449 (53) - a tu k
2016-07-03 13:21 streeteelf: dkdkk? Nie pasuje IMO, dźwięki są różne.
2016-07-03 13:21 streeteelf: Chociaż...
2016-07-03 13:22 streeteelf: Nvm, dkdkk pasuje jednak
2016-07-03 13:22 mauserek: 01:12:271 (56) - to byś mógł usunąć w takim razie
2016-07-03 13:23 streeteelf: IMO to tam pasuje akurat
2016-07-03 13:24 mauserek: wtedy byś mógł dać 01:12:476 (56) - D albo K
2016-07-03 13:24 streeteelf: To prędzej :P
2016-07-03 13:27 mauserek: 01:14:120 (60) - zrób tu kdkdd
2016-07-03 13:28 streeteelf: Uznajmy... Dla wypełnienia miejsca, chociaż ogólnie nie powinno tam być więcej niż 1/1 xD
2016-07-03 13:28 mauserek: bardziej chodziło mi o urozmaicenie.
2016-07-03 13:28 streeteelf: Może przejdzie
2016-07-03 13:28 streeteelf: :P
2016-07-03 13:29 streeteelf: Bo rozumiem, że te kdkdd w 1/2 ma być, nie?
2016-07-03 13:29 mauserek: tak
2016-07-03 13:29 streeteelf: Czy po prostu zmiana kolorów kółek
2016-07-03 13:29 mauserek: po prostu mi się wydaje że ten pattern pod 1/2 bardziej pasuje
2016-07-03 13:30 mauserek: w tamtym miejscu
2016-07-03 13:30 streeteelf: Spoko, może przejdzie :P
2016-07-03 13:30 mauserek: 01:14:120 (61) - i może jeszcze tutaj kd na końcu tego patternu?
2016-07-03 13:31 streeteelf: Nom :v
2016-07-03 13:32 mauserek: i to chyba w sumie tyle co znalazłem
2016-07-03 13:32 streeteelf: Pamiętaj, ja potrzebuję tylko gwiazdek, żeby mieć 20 :P
2016-07-03 13:32 streeteelf: To git, nie za dużo. ^^
2016-07-03 13:32 mauserek: spoko
Good luck ;)
Dess1210
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Dess1210
A little mod
Futsuu:
  1. 01:17:408 (36) - change to k
  2. 01:19:463 (40) - change to k
  3. 01:20:079 (42,44) - d - too fast for dkdk pattern in Futsuu
  4. 01:21:518 (46,47) - k
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.

[General]

I think you should set 1.4 as the base slider velocity for all difficulties.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:09:189 (8,9,10) - consider changing these notes to k d k ? This would follow the pitch of piano in a way better.
  2. 00:22:339 (21) - move to 00:24:394 - to avoid the constant 2/1 spacing ? Currently the pattern is rather monotonous due to its repetitive nature.
  3. 00:28:915 (29,30) - similar to ^ , these notes could be removed for another 4/1 break.
  4. 00:30:970 - you may add d here to follow the vocal accordingly.
  5. 00:33:435 (35) - moving this note to 00:34:257 - would accompany the pitch increase of vocal well.
  6. 00:37:134 (40) - this note could be moved to 00:38:778 - for a more natural rest moment.
  7. 00:46:997 (53) - similar to 00:28:915 (29,30) - , maybe delete for another 4/1 break ?
  8. 00:48:641 (54,55) - change to k and 00:49:463 (56) - add finish to emphasize the high-pitched vocal ?
  9. 00:53:161 (61) - move to 00:55:011 - so that it would be consistent with the way you mapped at 00:51:723 -
  10. 00:58:915 (2) - maybe move to 00:58:504 - for a smoother flow ?
  11. 01:09:189 (17) and 01:12:476 (21) - I think you may have missed the finish at these spots ?
  12. 01:19:052 (30,31,32) - same as ^
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:11:655 (16) - maybe k as you did in Kantan ?
  2. 00:22:339 (28,29) - swapping these notes to k d would fit the pitch drop well.
  3. 00:24:189 - maybe add k here for a better spread with Muzukashii ?
  4. 00:26:860 and 00:27:065 - add d and change 00:27:271 (40) - to k ? Same reason as ^
  5. 00:30:970 and 00:31:175 - add k as you need a bit more 1/2 notes in this session.
  6. 00:36:107 - similar to 00:26:860 - , it would be better to add d here and change 00:36:312 (59) - to k for the same purpose.
  7. 00:43:915 - you may add k here to follow the prominent beat.
  8. 00:45:353 (78) - changing this note to k would result in a smoother flow imo.
  9. 00:47:613 and 00:48:230 - add d and change 00:48:641 (86) - to k to follow the vocal ?
  10. 00:49:463 (88) - D would be better if you apply ^ . Then you can delete 00:49:874 (89) - for a 2/1 break.
  11. 00:53:778 - similar to 00:43:915 - , you may add d here for the beat as well.
  12. 00:55:833 (1) - consider starting this spinner at 00:56:038 - like you did in Kantan ?
  13. 01:01:381 - add d and 01:02:202 - add k so as to keep it harder than Kantan.
  14. 01:04:463 (14) - move to 01:04:257 - and change to k to follow the high-pitched sound there ?
  15. 01:07:339 - add d and 01:08:367 (24) - change to k to make the kiai harder ?
  16. 01:10:011 (27) - k would match the snare sound better.
  17. From 01:10:833 to 01:15:764 - you may change the pattern like this to improve the spread from Kantan to Muzukashii: (cursor at 01:13:298 - ; 01:12:476 (33) - is mapped as big note)
  18. From 01:19:052 to 01:20:696 - the difficulty gap with Kantan is too big atm, so it would be better to change the pattern like this: (cursor at 01:19:874 - )
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:04:463 (6) - this note should be deleted since the gap with Futsuu is too big.
  2. 00:07:750 (13) - same as ^
  3. 00:11:655 (20) - maybe k as you did in Kantan ?
  4. 00:16:997 (1) - it would be much better to remove this spinner and add d at 00:18:230 - instead for the important beat.
    :idea: You need to shorten the length of 1/2 notes throughout the difficulty to reduce the gap with Futsuu. The following are some examples to remove the excessive 1/2 notes:
  5. From 00:18:230 to 00:24:805 - (cursor at 00:21:518 - )
  6. From 00:25:627 to 00:30:559 - (cursor at 00:28:093 - )
  7. From 00:31:381 to 00:39:189 - (cursor at 00:35:285 - )
Muzukashii should be simpler in general. Feel free to contact me if you need further help.
streeteelf
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Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.

[General]

I think you should set 1.4 as the base slider velocity for all difficulties.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:09:189 (8,9,10) - consider changing these notes to k d k ? This would follow the pitch of piano in a way better.
  2. 00:22:339 (21) - move to 00:24:394 - to avoid the constant 2/1 spacing ? Currently the pattern is rather monotonous due to its repetitive nature.
  3. 00:28:915 (29,30) - similar to ^ , these notes could be removed for another 4/1 break.
  4. 00:30:970 - you may add d here to follow the vocal accordingly.
  5. 00:33:435 (35) - moving this note to 00:34:257 - would accompany the pitch increase of vocal well.
  6. 00:37:134 (40) - this note could be moved to 00:38:778 - for a more natural rest moment.
  7. 00:46:997 (53) - similar to 00:28:915 (29,30) - , maybe delete for another 4/1 break ?
  8. 00:48:641 (54,55) - change to k and 00:49:463 (56) - add finish to emphasize the high-pitched vocal ?
  9. 00:53:161 (61) - move to 00:55:011 - so that it would be consistent with the way you mapped at 00:51:723 -
  10. 00:58:915 (2) - maybe move to 00:58:504 - for a smoother flow ?
  11. 01:09:189 (17) and 01:12:476 (21) - I think you may have missed the finish at these spots ?
  12. 01:19:052 (30,31,32) - same as ^
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:11:655 (16) - maybe k as you did in Kantan ?
  2. 00:22:339 (28,29) - swapping these notes to k d would fit the pitch drop well.
  3. 00:24:189 - maybe add k here for a better spread with Muzukashii ?
  4. 00:26:860 and 00:27:065 - add d and change 00:27:271 (40) - to k ? Same reason as ^
  5. 00:30:970 and 00:31:175 - add k as you need a bit more 1/2 notes in this session.
  6. 00:36:107 - similar to 00:26:860 - , it would be better to add d here and change 00:36:312 (59) - to k for the same purpose.
  7. 00:43:915 - you may add k here to follow the prominent beat.
  8. 00:45:353 (78) - changing this note to k would result in a smoother flow imo.
  9. 00:47:613 and 00:48:230 - add d and change 00:48:641 (86) - to k to follow the vocal ?
  10. 00:49:463 (88) - D would be better if you apply ^ . Then you can delete 00:49:874 (89) - for a 2/1 break.
  11. 00:53:778 - similar to 00:43:915 - , you may add d here for the beat as well.
  12. 00:55:833 (1) - consider starting this spinner at 00:56:038 - like you did in Kantan ?
  13. 01:01:381 - add d and 01:02:202 - add k so as to keep it harder than Kantan.
  14. 01:04:463 (14) - move to 01:04:257 - and change to k to follow the high-pitched sound there ?
  15. 01:07:339 - add d and 01:08:367 (24) - change to k to make the kiai harder ?
  16. 01:10:011 (27) - k would match the snare sound better.
  17. From 01:10:833 to 01:15:764 - you may change the pattern like this to improve the spread from Kantan to Muzukashii: (cursor at 01:13:298 - ; 01:12:476 (33) - is mapped as big note) - I changed it a little, because of sounds, IMO 01:15:764 (39) - is better with k than d due to 01:14:942 (37) - the same sound.
  18. From 01:19:052 to 01:20:696 - the difficulty gap with Kantan is too big atm, so it would be better to change the pattern like this: (cursor at 01:19:874 - )
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:04:463 (6) - this note should be deleted since the gap with Futsuu is too big.
  2. 00:07:750 (13) - same as ^
  3. 00:11:655 (20) - maybe k as you did in Kantan ?
  4. 00:16:997 (1) - it would be much better to remove this spinner and add d at 00:18:230 - instead for the important beat.
    :idea: You need to shorten the length of 1/2 notes throughout the difficulty to reduce the gap with Futsuu. The following are some examples to remove the excessive 1/2 notes:
  5. From 00:18:230 to 00:24:805 - (cursor at 00:21:518 - )
  6. From 00:25:627 to 00:30:559 - (cursor at 00:28:093 - )
  7. From 00:31:381 to 00:39:189 - (cursor at 00:35:285 - )
Muzukashii should be simpler in general. Feel free to contact me if you need further help.
Thanks for mod. :3 Changed SV to 1.4, applied all Kantan and nearly all in Futsuu (I mentioned which one I didn't) and made Muzu a lot easier (or I just think it's easier xD). Everything without my comment in mod is applied.
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
A quick recheck here. (no kd)

[General]

Here is a resized background with resolution of 1366x768. You may replace the current background with that.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:49:463 (56) - as mentioned in the previous post, you may add finish for this note for the stressed sound.
streeteelf
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Topic Starter
streeteelf

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

[General]

Here is a resized background with resolution of 1366x768. You may replace the current background with that.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:49:463 (56) - as mentioned in the previous post, you may add finish for this note for the stressed sound.
Background changed and finish added. :P
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
The set looks better than before with a more appropriate spread. Rest moments are sufficient in lower difficulties.

Bubbled~
Nwolf
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changed a few patterns, looks fine now
Surono
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Surono
gratss, wheres oni chan aehuaehea
Raiden
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Where is the Oni? lol
Underforest
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Is in your ♥
DakeDekaane
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Being honest, the actual Muzukashii fits more as an Oni for this song, as it expresses the song at its full potential.
Nwolf
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Nwolf
There is no rule saying that Muzukashii cannot do that on songs that allow a Muzukashii while following the osu!taiko guidelines of mapping a Muzukashii (breaks, patterns, density)
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
I would say the current Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii follow all guidelines regarding pattern snaps, breaks and density pretty well.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Being honest, the actual Muzukashii fits more as an Oni for this song, as it expresses the song at its full potential.
It does not map to the song's full potential as we can even use harder 1/4 notes like ddk kkd etc. Current Muzukashii only contains very few 1/4 ddd and kkk and there are sufficient 2/1 rests.
Raiden
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Then, if the song's full potential is not mapped, why isn't there an Oni that does exactly that? :|
Surono
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Surono

this song just full of 1/2 snap, 1/4 maybe for vocal or instruments? ayy

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/964153&m=1
F M O, bcus the bpm and snap 1/6 pattern on high diff (maybe if the bpm 2x, I will change to K F M lmao)
TKS
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TKS
double bpm makes no sense absolutely, should have qualified with 73bpm.
tasuke912
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tasuke912
I'm sure the song is 73 bpm.
But if use below 75 bpm, bar lines will be quadruple. fuck'n bad system. I don't think we have to force using half bpm for now.

- - - - - - - -
The mapset has another issue:
from 01:24:394 - Vocal is late, conversely notes are still keeping same bpm. There is a risk to affect to players' acc a lot. I give you suggestions, try them please

Kantan
  1. 01:24:805 (36) - Delete or move to 1/8 tick right.
Futsuu
  1. 01:24:805 (58) - If you deleted the note in kantan, delete or move to right. if you moved, move it in the same way.
Muzukashii
  1. 01:24:395 (88,89,90) - Delete or move to right, too. Then remove 01:23:778 (86,87) -, since there is no 1/2 sound, and it may break rhythm
Also, the last spinner sounds loud. It should be lower volume like 20% imo.
Good luck!
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Are you sure to use a note snapped on a 1/8 line in a Kantan owing to the slightly delayed vocal? I found that it would be okay to snap the note on the white line for simplicity. Also the artist should have produced her voice at 01:24:805 - , but it appears to be a bit late to express the sorrowful feeling.

Plus, I believe that beginners tend to follow things on regular intervals more accurately.
tasuke912
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At least I can say 1/8 is more close to the vocal, and it doesn't affect to difficulty.

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Plus, I believe that beginners tend to follow things on regular intervals more accurately.
I believe beginners get rhythm from song. Non-regular intervals notes may confuse them, but too late notes may also confuse more than non-regular intervals.
Volta
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i have to agree that the delayed vocal is disturbing even for kantan. tasuke's suggestion sounds more accurate and i think even beginner can follow the slower interval of the note

might as well mention to try start the last spinner at 01:25:627 - sounds better if you emphasis the piano in the barline instead of vocal here
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