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Liz Triangle - Kagura

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Krisom
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Krisom
General-
-Are the dots after "Lotus" really needed?

Normal+ -
01:01:529 (2,3,4) - the 1/1 1/2 1/1 pattern won't fit the music
01:02:215 (1) - ^
01:07:015 (1,2,3,4) - Use 1/3 here too
01:15:243 (2) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41557 do something like this (the timeline, not exactly THAT pattern)
And yeah, 1/2 won't work here, I'll stop pointing out the patterns
01:49:529 (3) - I'd move this a bit so it's not that hidden under (1) :/
02:17:643 - WTF? remove this fountain
02:22:557 (3) - Huh? move to 02:22:672 -
02:24:843 (2,3) - weird pattern, change it (and I mean (3))
02:26:100 (5) - Spacing

Othertwo diffs are ok. Ufo is awesome. I culd not catch anything else, but Normal needs a lot of work :/, get more mods for it
Hamuko
4,713 posts
Joined April 2009
Topic Starter
Hamuko
Drag told me to remove his diff.
This needs a bubble now.
James2250
osu! Alumni
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James2250
Use same custom colors for both?
Include a hit circle approach circle in the folder
Make sure the 2nd offset is the same for both difficulties
Now the difficulty set feels empty without a normal :( Get Krisom to make one~~

Easy:
I normally prefer the largest circle size for an Easy but its ok..
Make sure all your timing sections are snapped so stuff like 01:53:637 (1) works (double check for both difficulties)

Eiri's UFO:
Why is this one on 3/4? Change that?
02:28:272 (1) - remove new combo
Map looks nice

Maps are fine but such a dramatic difficulty change between the two..it doesn't work nicely
Current offsets you have now might be slightly late, double check them

(also I agree fade mp3 if you can)
Hamuko
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Hamuko

James2250 wrote:

Use same custom colors for both? Fixed
Include a hit circle approach circle in the folder Fixed
Make sure the 2nd offset is the same for both difficulties Fixed
Now the difficulty set feels empty without a normal :( Get Krisom to make one~~

Easy:
I normally prefer the largest circle size for an Easy but its ok.. Fixed
Make sure all your timing sections are snapped so stuff like 01:53:637 (1) works (double check for both difficulties) Fixed

Eiri's UFO:
Why is this one on 3/4? Change that? Fixed
02:28:272 (1) - remove new combo Fixed
Map looks nice
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,812 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
Okay, here is the Taiko guest diff.. :)
Was hard to map this time. ww
Sorry for taking so much time.

Download: 17111 Liz Triangle - Kagura.rar
Garven
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Joined January 2010
Garven
As per your request:

[General]
I find the slider border at 150,150,150 looks a lot better than just the default white.
Sexy song and bg. <3

[Easy]
Really like going in clockwise circles, huh? :P
02:32:898 - This break really necessary?
The mapping got really linear at the end. :/

[Eiri's UFO]
Too hard to mod. Too busy enjoying map. :<
01:49:872 (6,7,8,9,10) - I'd prefer this to just be a stream, tbh
Really fun~

[Ono's Taiko Oni]
02:14:215 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - WHY IS THIS NOT SWINGING

Needs a normal. ;_;
Hamuko
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Hamuko

Garven wrote:

Needs a normal. ;_;
imma go make one and fix things at my diff and etocetora orz :3
OnosakiHito
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Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
[Ono's Taiko Oni]
02:14:215 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - WHY IS THIS NOT SWINGING
I checkes this now a few times out. I mean it's fine. But if some one has I better idea I can change it. ^^
But for now I'm 2 weeks offline. See ya and hope this map goes ranked in the 2 weeks.~
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
weee

Download: Liz Triangle - Kagura (Teta) [Gladi's Normal].osu
Hamuko
4,713 posts
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Topic Starter
Hamuko
added. yay.
PEPOTTI
195 posts
Joined May 2010
PEPOTTI
nice map~
Garven
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Joined January 2010
Garven

OnosakiHito wrote:

[Ono's Taiko Oni]
02:14:215 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - WHY IS THIS NOT SWINGING
I checkes this now a few times out. I mean it's fine. But if some one has I better idea I can change it. ^^
But for now I'm 2 weeks offline. See ya and hope this map goes ranked in the 2 weeks.~

Plays and sounds so much better this way~

[Gladi's Normal]
01:13:186 (5,1) - Considering how you mapped up to here, this overlap was surprising to see

That's it. :D
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
Is the Taiko guest diff. allready updated?
Can't change the last mod if not.^^"
The update button is still there.
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
Done~ Thank you garven.
Find also one more issue.

Download: Liz Triangle - Kagura (Teta) [Ono's Taiko Oni].osu
Hamuko
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Hamuko

Garven wrote:

[Gladi's Normal]
01:13:186 (5,1) - Considering how you mapped up to here, this overlap was surprising to see Fixed
I also removed Dragvon from tags since i deleted his diff a long time ago :U
Garven
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Garven
Taiko:

02:11:129 (1,1,2,1,2,1) - Are... you sure this is what you intended for this part?

Edit:

:U
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OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito

Garven wrote:

Taiko:

02:11:129 (1,1,2,1,2,1) - Are... you sure this is what you intended for this part?
changed, thx again Garven~

Download: Liz Triangle - Kagura (Teta) [Ono's Taiko Oni].osu
ziin
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Joined January 2010
ziin
well that was fun.
CheeseWarlock
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CheeseWarlock
[Ono's Taiko Oni]
00:32:729 (2,3,1,2,1,1) - Awkward. Don't use the first and second 1/3 snaps together like this.
00:36:500 (2,1,1,1,2,1,1) - Sequences like this should not be in 1/2 snap; use 1/3 instead.
01:37:700 (2) - Don't use 1/2 snap here either.
02:25:015 (1) - Move 1/6 back.

In fact, I don't think any part of this song should use 1/2 snap (red ticks) except maybe as an occasional tricky section. They don't fit with any part of the actual music.

The other difficulties are fine.
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito

CheeseWarlock wrote:

[Ono's Taiko Oni]
00:32:729 (2,3,1,2,1,1) - Awkward. Don't use the first and second 1/3 snaps together like this. - Didn't have need to change it, but done it.
00:36:500 (2,1,1,1,2,1,1) - Sequences like this should not be in 1/2 snap; use 1/3 instead. - I used 1/6 and followed the voice, denided
01:37:700 (2) - Don't use 1/2 snap here either. - changed it on my way
02:25:015 (1) - Move 1/6 back. - denided Take 25% speed, and you will see I follow the voice, not the music.
I followed just the voice or the music when the voice is off and when you use 25% speed or 50%, you will see it fits perfectly.
Well but thank you for mod.~

Download: Liz Triangle - Kagura (Teta) [Ono's Taiko Oni].osu
CheeseWarlock
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CheeseWarlock
Listening at 25%, a few of the vocal notes sound like they could be on 1/2, but most of them still sound like 1/3.

And still, players are playing the map at 100% speed, not 25%. Using red ticks in those sections is very confusing because the song as a whole sounds like it's in 1/3 snap. "Mapping to the vocals" doesn't mean you can map in a way that feels OPPOSITE to the rest of the music.
Hamuko
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Hamuko
"And still, players are playing the map at 100% speed, not 25%."
i said that too.
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito
*deleted Taiko guest map*
I'm not the same oppinion.
Sander-Don
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Joined March 2010
Sander-Don
this is coming from an actual taiko player, the notes that were placed were fine, readable, and you shouldn't have nuked your diff, ono, its perfect orz some notes went to vocals, some to the beat, just like a good map always does

EDIT: also star~
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-maJu
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Joined January 2010
-maJu
star =P
James2250
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James2250
Hey I'm back here again

Taiko issues, taiko difficulty got deleted, don't need to worry about that
Other difficulties look fine (slightly more finishes than I like but they are ok for the song) Easy has less breaks than the others but its a pretty simple difficulty so~

Rebubbled~
CheeseWarlock
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CheeseWarlock
This song is pretty cool for a Touhou remix, you know.
Hamuko
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Hamuko
Thanks CheeseWarlock :D
Lybydose
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Lybydose
ugh there are quite a few notes snapped wrong in Eiri's UFO difficulty. These should have been snapped at 1/6, and it's very noticeable even while playing at 100%.

00:58:329 (2,3) -
00:59:986 (6) -
01:00:843 (1) -
01:04:100 (4) -

and then those four spots in the copy paste repeat.

Red ticks are still 1/6 snap, and it's hardly unintuitive for this specific section to utilize them. It's far more unintuitive that I have to intentionally click WRONG in order to hit things right.

EDIT: Also, the offset is late
CheeseWarlock
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CheeseWarlock
I noted those, but they felt fine to me. Upon closer inspection it seems pretty gray-area; sometimes the vocalist sounds like she's using an odd beat and at other times it doesn't. When play-testing, it tripped me up the first time but it felt natural from the second try onward.

But they're not using red ticks...?

And you might be right about the offset; I'm still fiddling with the UO on this computer. :?
Lybydose
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Lybydose

CheeseWarlock wrote:

But they're not using red ticks...?
What I meant was, using red ticks in that section makes more sense than the current timing of the notes.
Niji_old_1
Niji_old_1
Congrats >.<
Hamuko
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