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Yuudachi-kun

Woobowiz wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Your point?
The point being that no one mentioned what specific star rating to play Insanes on. But you just assumed the advice they gave implied a 5 star rating.

Have you not noticed that you cherry picked your argument?
No, I haven't, because I was the first person to suggest playing more insane won't help and the only thing other people said were "Yes it will."
bigfeh
Play more of ANYTHING will help you play insane nomod. You just gotta git gud for fuck's sake

Practice is practice. If you want to learn hard patterns, play harder diffs. Speed, DT. Aim and timing, HR.

Also pretty sure there's something in for HD but I don't think anybody really knows what it is
Yuudachi-kun

bigfeh wrote:

Play more of ANYTHING will help you play insane nomod. You just gotta git gud for fuck's sake

Practice is practice. If you want to learn hard patterns, play harder diffs. Speed, DT. Aim and timing, HR.

Also pretty sure there's something in for HD but I don't think anybody really knows what it is
Have someone who is new at the game play 5 star maps for a month or two. The first day they will fail the songs within the first few seconds. The next day they might get a bit farther. The next they'll probably hit a part they can't aim at for life's sake. What have they learned? Nothing. Maybe after teo months they can pass with a C if it's low hp.

Playing more isn't very helpful here.
bigfeh

Kheldragar wrote:

bigfeh wrote:

Play more of ANYTHING will help you play insane nomod. You just gotta git gud for fuck's sake

Practice is practice. If you want to learn hard patterns, play harder diffs. Speed, DT. Aim and timing, HR.

Also pretty sure there's something in for HD but I don't think anybody really knows what it is
Have someone who is new at the game play 5 star maps for a month or two. The first day they will fail the songs within the first few seconds. The next day they might get a bit farther. The next they'll probably hit a part they can't aim at for life's sake. What have they learned? Nothing. Maybe after teo months they can pass with a C if it's low hp.

Playing more isn't very helpful here.
note the hard patterns part and now, add to it the fact that hard is very much subjective. If you play 3 star maps, 4 stars are probably very hard for you, but 4 stars is what I play whenever I'm drunk/sleep deprived/reading something on the other screen/a combination of the three.
Shiyzo

CuboidBeats wrote:

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bigfeh

Avisdavid wrote:

CuboidBeats wrote:

playmoreplaymoreplaymoreplaymoreitstheonlywaytoimroveplaymoreplaymoreplaymorethereisnotrickplaymoreplaymoreplaymore
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as if just posting "SPAM" weren't spam

if you want attention, wrap a watermelon around your neck and go walk around town
ZenithPhantasm
Play more
autoteleology
Have someone who is new at the game play 5 star maps for a month or two. The first day they will fail the songs within the first few seconds. The next day they might get a bit farther. The next they'll probably hit a part they can't aim at for life's sake. What have they learned? Nothing. Maybe after teo months they can pass with a C if it's low hp.

Playing more isn't very helpful here.
I've been saying this since I've been here. Play more is shit advice. Playing more means nothing if you're not practicing intelligently.
Yuudachi-kun
It both is and isn't the best advice.
ZenithPhantasm
Play alot more
Kaienyuu

Philosofikal wrote:

I've been saying this since I've been here. Play more is shit advice. Playing more means nothing if you're not practicing intelligently.
Stop spending more time trying to find ways to improve and start improving by simply playing the game.

tl;dr play more
bigfeh

Kaienyuu wrote:

Philosofikal wrote:

I've been saying this since I've been here. Play more is shit advice. Playing more means nothing if you're not practicing intelligently.
Stop spending more time trying to find ways to improve and start improving by simply playing the game.

tl;dr play more
ZenithPhantasm

Kaienyuu wrote:

tl;dr play more
pandaBee
As a living testament salient to the topic of this thread, I myself was advised to play really, really difficult songs for my level (4-5*) despite being a beginner. My friends all assured me that pushing myself very hard on these incredibly difficult songs would unlock the inner cokezero inside of me, so I ended up playing 4-5* for an entire month on no fail.

Did I progress? Not really. I improved at reading ar 9 a bit and I was able to move my hands pretty fast and mash fast as well, but I had very little aim or accuracy to speak of, and my technique and rhythm perception were horrendously lacking. I think I played this way until I was around 80-70k, after which I realized that my friends were all retards and I started all over and began relearning the basics from the bottom up.

Now I can actually play those songs that I mindlessly flailed on, but it took a logical approach. Sometimes effort alone isn't enough to carry you in everything. I once heard an analogy where there's a fly trying to escape outside of a house through a glass window. The fly keeps banging his head and charging into the window in the hopes that he may be able to escape outside, but no matter how many times he attempts this he will never make it out this way as the window is shut tight. As that analogy might illustrate, you shouldn't just play more and struggle needlessly, instead play efficiently and struggle in a smart manner.
Kaienyuu
Play more =/= Mash buttons on maps that are way beyond your league like a retard. It doesn't take a genious to figure that out.
Yuudachi-kun

Kaienyuu wrote:

Play more =/= Mash buttons on maps that are way beyond your league like a retard. It doesn't take a genious to figure that out.
I think play more means play more. You know, what it says.
Kaienyuu
What a shocking revelation.
Yuudachi-kun

Kaienyuu wrote:

What a shocking revelation.
Then why did you have to say it?
pandaBee

Kaienyuu wrote:

Play more =/= Mash buttons on maps that are way beyond your league like a retard. It doesn't take a genious to figure that out.
I have a very strong work ethic, and I don't value my skills very highly, so when I saw that I wasn't improving much it wasn't that I couldn't see that I wasn't improving very much, it was just that I thought I wasn't putting in enough effort, and in a way I was progressing, just not in an efficient manner. Besides I was just a nub at the time and didn't know anything at all.
Assuming that was directed towards me.
GoldenWolf

Kheldragar wrote:

I think play more means play more. You know, what it says.
Typically, you want to play more while using common sense, or at least trying to come up with a logical process on what would be the most efficient way to improve.
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