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Endaris
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Endaris

litejason wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Play more insane won't help you if you need to play normals/hards.
That's like saying running 200m won't help you get faster at 100m.
that analogy sucks, it's like playing a 1minute 2 star map and a 2minute 2 star map. no real difference

the difference between normal/hard/insane is more like practising rollerskating to prepare for ice-skating later on.
sure you'll eventually learn ice-skating if you start it without any preparation but you will fall harder and have much more problems than someone who practised with rollerskates before.
Yuudachi-kun
US
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Yuudachi-kun

YOGURTOVSKY wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Play more insane won't help you if you need to play normals/hards.
Uhhh, yes it will.
Bring me an absolute beginner and have them play 5 star insanes for a month and tell me how they're doing.
GoldenWolf
BE
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Joined May 2012
GoldenWolf
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/92235
 
See what I did there?
bigfeh
BR
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Joined January 2013
bigfeh

otoed1 wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Play more insane won't help you if you need to play normals/hards.
Untrue, I skipped easys and only played hards for around 5k plays. Additionally, I never s'd any hard song, I don't think I even fc'd many of them. I kinda just skipped my way to 4 star insanes.
happened to me too. Can vouch for this

@thread
dude just fucking play more. that's how you learn shit in this game
go click circles
otoed1
US
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otoed1

bigfeh wrote:

go click circles
leepdesu
SG
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Joined October 2011
leepdesu

GoldenWolf wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/92235
 
See what I did there?
please
-Makishima S-
PL
2,439 posts
Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
Don't play for pp and ranking right now, just

go click circles
You can care about pp when you actualy start fcing maps, in this case stay on your skill level and progress. You can always test your skill via playing some easy insane with NF mod.

Listen to grandpa / grandma from forum who are experienced and if they say - play da game, just play it ^^
Woobowiz
US
412 posts
Joined March 2014
Woobowiz

Kheldragar wrote:

Bring me an absolute beginner and have them play 5 star insanes for a month and tell me how they're doing.
Hi.

Also, there ARE such things as 3-4 star insanes.
pandaBee
US
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Joined December 2014
pandaBee

Woobowiz wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Bring me an absolute beginner and have them play 5 star insanes for a month and tell me how they're doing.
Hi.

Also, there ARE such things as 3-4 star insanes.
Oh really?
Barusamikosu
US
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Joined July 2014
Barusamikosu

pandaBee wrote:

Oh really?
I want to use bold letters too.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/232773
2.5star insane
Yuudachi-kun
US
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Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun

Woobowiz wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Bring me an absolute beginner and have them play 5 star insanes for a month and tell me how they're doing.
Hi.

Also, there ARE such things as 3-4 star insanes.
There are also such thing as 5 star insanes. Your point?
Woobowiz
US
412 posts
Joined March 2014
Woobowiz

Kheldragar wrote:

Your point?
The point being that no one mentioned what specific star rating to play Insanes on. But you just assumed the advice they gave implied a 5 star rating.

Have you not noticed that you cherry picked your argument?
Endaris
DE
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Joined June 2010
Endaris
When your top play is an easy, insanes are still something you'll have less success on within a month of playing compared to someone who works his way through star increments(according to ranking critera, insane ist 3.75-5.25, median would be 4.5 which is arguably not playable by a newb)
You might get some good scores with decent acc on certain maps you practised a lot but your consistency through a large variety of maps and mapping styles will be a lot worse, especially if it comes down to AR 9 vs lower ARs(depending on what you focused on the switch in either direction is hard)
I mean, i'm a bad player and depending on how well the map fits my inexisting qualities I can get up to 80% acc on a sightread on a 4.5 star map even though what i'm playing on average is 1 full star below(not much less than the difference of hardest easy to easiest hard).
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Yuudachi-kun
US
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Yuudachi-kun

Woobowiz wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

Your point?
The point being that no one mentioned what specific star rating to play Insanes on. But you just assumed the advice they gave implied a 5 star rating.

Have you not noticed that you cherry picked your argument?
No, I haven't, because I was the first person to suggest playing more insane won't help and the only thing other people said were "Yes it will."
bigfeh
BR
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Joined January 2013
bigfeh
Play more of ANYTHING will help you play insane nomod. You just gotta git gud for fuck's sake

Practice is practice. If you want to learn hard patterns, play harder diffs. Speed, DT. Aim and timing, HR.

Also pretty sure there's something in for HD but I don't think anybody really knows what it is
Yuudachi-kun
US
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Yuudachi-kun

bigfeh wrote:

Play more of ANYTHING will help you play insane nomod. You just gotta git gud for fuck's sake

Practice is practice. If you want to learn hard patterns, play harder diffs. Speed, DT. Aim and timing, HR.

Also pretty sure there's something in for HD but I don't think anybody really knows what it is
Have someone who is new at the game play 5 star maps for a month or two. The first day they will fail the songs within the first few seconds. The next day they might get a bit farther. The next they'll probably hit a part they can't aim at for life's sake. What have they learned? Nothing. Maybe after teo months they can pass with a C if it's low hp.

Playing more isn't very helpful here.
bigfeh
BR
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bigfeh

Kheldragar wrote:

bigfeh wrote:

Play more of ANYTHING will help you play insane nomod. You just gotta git gud for fuck's sake

Practice is practice. If you want to learn hard patterns, play harder diffs. Speed, DT. Aim and timing, HR.

Also pretty sure there's something in for HD but I don't think anybody really knows what it is
Have someone who is new at the game play 5 star maps for a month or two. The first day they will fail the songs within the first few seconds. The next day they might get a bit farther. The next they'll probably hit a part they can't aim at for life's sake. What have they learned? Nothing. Maybe after teo months they can pass with a C if it's low hp.

Playing more isn't very helpful here.
note the hard patterns part and now, add to it the fact that hard is very much subjective. If you play 3 star maps, 4 stars are probably very hard for you, but 4 stars is what I play whenever I'm drunk/sleep deprived/reading something on the other screen/a combination of the three.
Shiyzo
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Shiyzo

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bigfeh
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CuboidBeats wrote:

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