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kratoskitten
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It's a nice map :3
ztrot
woot Here is my diff well part of it also hitsounds put them in the folder

Download: U - The First the Last (Phyrearms) [ztrot's Insane].osu

Download: Sexy Hitsounds.rar
ztrot
Teras
Looked through this quick. And I found this in your insane. <.<

Guess I will mod this seriously if I want to.
Anyways.

[Insane]

Ehm.. 00:15:827 (11) New combo?

Star. *
ztrot
omg skin stuff and missing hitsound for my diff

Download: skin and missing sound.rar
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
Thanks Teras, I'm working off and on with the Insane diff & will make sure to add that in~
ztrot
here is that overlay

dvorak_old
Title : the first the last ( all non capital)

will check more at weekend.
gl

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0feFTwu ... re=related

official CD jacket

I don't know why they made this like this.
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
I'm hesitant to make the title all lower case; the other U maps that people have made also capitalize each word, even though they're lower case in their respective videos, too ... but correct me if I'm wrong :?: (I've seen other maps where this happens too, i.e. Forever We Can Make It!)

The grammar nazi in me dies a painful death at the sight of all lower case letters too :cry:

Edit: Changed to lower case ^_^
Selee
;)
dkun
❤ = ★ ~
:3
Ephemeral
Modding this as I promised like.. two weeks ago

[Normal]
01:06:612 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kinda blends in with the background, which kinda doesn't fly. Might want to change the blue in all sets to another colour.

Aside from that, no real issues. Pretty good Normal, actually.

[Hard]
00:18:184 (7,8) - The overlap between these two looks silly. You also don't have to end your sliders in catmull points - it doesn't do shit.
00:49:041 (4) - New verse, new combo. Makes sense.
00:52:469 (5) - Same deal here.
00:55:898 (5) - And here.
01:13:684 (2,3,4) - These are apparently unrankable since there's no real way to tell which way the sliderball is going to travel. Unfurl these sliders and they'll be fine, but having the end point aligned with the start like that is a surefire way to run into problems.
01:16:469 (5) - New verse, new combo.

The effort in this is obvious. Excellent stuff.

No issues in insane from what I can see.

A well deserved star. Have a fiddle with some of the stuff I've mentioned and let me know afterwards.
Ephemeral
Fixes implemented, bubble awarded!
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
Thanks for modding ^__^ fixes added; much more playable now!

xD Thanks too Lybydose, must have forgotten to put it in pending again after the last update.
ztrot
somebody rank this :(
Ephemeral
Rebubbling because of silly forum change.
Mogsy
Normal:
-00:57:398 (5) - Remove that second Finish. Consistency with the phrase before it and all.
-01:02:755 (2) - New Combo mark goes here. New phrase.
-01:32:755 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark. This is a part of the previous phrase.
-01:33:612 (3) - Add a New Combo mark. This is a new phrase.
-01:36:183 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark. This is a part of the previous phrase.
-01:37:041 (2) - Add a New Combo mark. This is a new phrase.

Hard:
-01:02:327 (10) - Stack this. This is really ugly.
-01:17:112 (2) - Fix this symmetry; IE stack the endpoint of this and (1) please.

ztrot's Insane:
-00:43:900 (12) - New Combo mark here. That way consistency will be reached with this section.
-00:44:114 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark. Yay consistency.
-00:45:400 (3) - Add a New Combo mark. Yay consistency.

Trust me on the New Combo mark stuff, it still looks fine/even better if you change that.

In any case, solid. BAT-starred. Rebubble when fixed.
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
Thanks Mogsworth, added all your fixes except for the Finish at 0:57:398 in Hard. I made three repeating sliders (50:541, 53:969, 57:398) and the first has one Finish, second has two, and the third has three -- sort of as a way to lead up to the sample set change to Normal after them :3 I can change it if it still bothers you though~

In Hard, I also:
- 01:13:684 (2, 3, 4): changed these three sliders into a star shape because the old ones felt boring
- removed a few Finish sounds because they were starting to get too repetitive
- 01:38:541 (1, 2, 3, 4): changed these four sliders into straight lines because the old ones looked lame
*hopes that's okay* xD
Tomoka Rin
star
Mogsy
One last thing.

Hard:
-01:17:112 (2) - Restack this.

Fix and I'll bubble.
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
OK, restacked the slider @ 01:17:112~
Mogsy
Help yourself to a bubble, you've earned it.
Ephemeral
POWER OVERWHELMING

(Ranked)
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
THANKS EVERYONE <3

Yay I'm #1 on Hard and Insane! <_< for the next 20 minutes at least lololo
Vicho
congratz~ Djibril scares me XD
but I love this song <3
Andrea
"H I I"

Oh, not again...
DJPop

osuplayer111 wrote:

"H I I"

Oh, not again...
^
Ephemeral
I didn't even bother checking star rating since I flat out assumed Normal was < 3 stars based on how it played.

Whoops.

The new difficulty system classes this as Normal so I guess it's okay.
Alace
WOW YEAH
so we don`t need to care that 3.25 star blabla now ?
come on you are a member of this team

personaly i don`t care about the star rating too,but i HAVE TO ask mappers to do that
rofl

EDIT:so we have think about this problem seriously. if a diff is easy enough but has 3.25+ star rating. what should BATs do
Ephemeral
It should be okay if it's within the 3-4 star range, since I think that's always been a bit of a grey area with star rating anyway.

We probably need to discuss the guideline a little bit to get this ironed out.

Though feel free to unrank it if it bothers you that much, since it is technically violating the criteria.
Alace
only you unrank maps with lol reasons
i am fine with this normal becauxe i am good at playing ^^b
Ephemeral
I guess there's no problem then?
Pasonia
What Alace was trying to say was that you should probably take more care in ranking, since we're technically not operating under the new criteria yet. At the very least, you should have acknowledged the stars and placed a notice saying you're aware of it, rather than just saying "oh, I thought it was okay."

Since it's not the first time, Ephemeral, here's a reminder: Don't use any new stuff unless we're through discussing it in our super-secret-chambers, Ephe.

Though, given the map, I doubt there's unranking needed. It's just a bit of a hiccup with how this matter was dealt with. No biggie.

(this is an edit to highlight just how selfish Ephemeral is as a person even 8 years ago. I don't make shit up - he likes to make his own rules)
Ephemeral
It was an oversight on my part, I literally and honestly thought there was no way Normal could be above three stars that I didn't even bother glancing over at star rating while I was modding it.

Just one of those things, I guess.
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
I can see how these easier maps could be a problem. While I had quite a few relatively new players play the Normal and most of them could pass it, it was a pretty subjective way to verify if the Normal was easy enough. It was also the completely wrong way to go about doing it in the first place so don't mind that part xD

And then while some maps like this Normal seem easier than the star value suggests (like Ephemeral had mentioned), there aren't many other good ways to systematically rule in or rule out easiest difficulties. Taking things on a case-by-case basis would take even longer and would probably just cause more drama when BATs disagree on other peoples' opinions... though, it's not really any of my business!

Anyway, I could easily make a dumbed-down Normal into an Easy diff considering how close the Normal is to 3.25 stars already; I don't want to be the cause of a bunch of BAT turmoil! Just let me know :)
Andrea
Heart fixed.
Jarby

Alace wrote:

only you unrank maps with lol reasons
Your attitude disgusts me.
ztrot
I didn't get any hey ztrot made the skin- the font :P no I kid great map
Topic Starter
Phyrearms
<3 noteskin :D and your difficulty which is probably the reason why this map is ranked 9.x ^____^
ztrot
<3
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