Aqua Timez - Niji [CatchTheBeat] · forum

SYAHME

Joined January 2014

SYAHME 2015-10-20T10:55:34+00:00

General

■ No problem.

Q-H's Salad

■ Approach Rate & Overall Difficulty : 7.
■ 00:10:837 (3) - slightly move this platter to x:208 to make it balance, create some movement and flow better.
■ 00:30:053 (3) - maybe you can place this hitcircle in the middle like you make at this - 00:44:113 (2).
■ 00:46:222 (1,2,3) - you might want to make some different pattern like *this differently from pattern before this.
■ Please add "must" dashes on some suitable notes because I can play without press dash button.

Manuxz's Platter

■ 00:07:791 (2,3,4,5) - Ctrl + H and move to right at x:282.
■ 00:11:306 (5) - make it horizontal like *this to make some movement.
■ 00:17:867 (3) - Ctrl + G?
■ 00:23:960 (1) - make it close to previous notes.
■ 00:27:709 (1) - too far!!!
■ 00:37:317 (1,2,3,4,5) - make it close between them.
■ 00:51:612 (4) - this is weird maybe you can horizontal it to the left a little.
■ 01:00:985 (3,1) - maybe you can make hyperdash between them.
■ 01:01:923 (2) - make it close to previous slider.
■ 01:02:391 (3,4,5,6) - this is no no, you can make simple stream like 'C'. AFB have told me that, this maybe not right in platter.
■ 01:20:904 (2) - again? make it horizontal to the left a little bit.
■ 01:38:948 (3,4,5) - this, if you make this part stream it is more fun. Use all the drum sound.

Rain

■ HP Drain Rate : 6.
■ 00:39:661 (5) - this you want make a pause, if dont make it horizontal to the right a little bit.
■ 01:15:983 (7) - make it horizontal.
■ 01:36:605 (4) - maybe you can just make it horizontal.
■ I think this diff overall is good, but there is some part that you can improve it.

Good luck on ranking this. Sorry, Im strict person.

Last edited by SYAHME 2015-10-20T20:03:11+00:00, edited 6 times in total.

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2015-10-20T16:16:54+00:00

Done fixing the rest, except:

00:30:053 (3) - Maybe you can place this hitcircle in the middle like you make at this - 00:44:113 (2). ( Disagree, it is too sudden even if it is doable. )
00:46:222 (1,2,3) - You might want to make some different pattern like *this differently from pattern before this. ( Great idea, but I prefer for a little movement here. No changes. )
Please add "must" dashes on some suitable notes because I can play without press dash button. ( Good to know that. But since the Cup was removed recently, I have to keep this difficulty the easiest as possible. Plus, this is a pretty calm song, so I think the "must" dashes can be applied on the Kiai. I will see on what I can work on it. )

Thanks for the mod, SYAHME~

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Naruto Shippuden Opening  [MAD].mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 61923
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Niji
TitleUnicode:虹
Artist:Aqua Timez
ArtistUnicode:Aqua Timez
Creator:-Sh1n1-
Version:Q-H's Salad
Source:Gokusen
Tags:うたい 去り し 花 Utai Sarishi Hana drama OP opening MAD AMV Naruto Shippuden QHideaki13 Manuxz
BeatmapID:725106
BeatmapSetID:302736

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.3
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2015-10-23T14:55:36+00:00

[General]

Generally the set has a bad spread. The Salad has 1,68 stars, then it jumps right off to 2,89 stars (+1,21 stars) in the platter and just 3,21 stars (+0,32 stars) for the Rain. The gaps between all difficulties need to be well balanced.
Have you made sure this timing is correct? Unfortunaltely I got not enough time to do a full timing check atm, but on a few parts it feels a little off. I am not sure if that imprecise BPM you used, is correct. Please consult someone before you try getting this qualified, in order to double-check.

[Q-H's Salad]

QHideaki13 wrote:
Good to know that. But since the Cup was removed recently, I have to keep this difficulty the easiest as possible. Plus, this is a pretty calm song, so I think the "must" dashes can be applied on the Kiai. I will see on what I can work on it.

This is not a valid excuse to make your Salad feel like an actual Cup. If this difficulty is called Salad, it has to work like any other Salad. The 'easiest difficulty as possible',as you said, will always be the Cup, there is no denying in that. If you guys want an easy difficulty in this set as well, you should add a real Cup. I will make this more concrete in my mod below.

AR/OD7 for a better spread between the difficulties (7>8>9)
1,68 stars and you need exactly 1 dash to FC this Salad. All in all, this is not a Salad, but a 'challenging' cup. Nevertheless, this set needs a Salad due to the spread. So what I focus mainly in this mod is making this Salad more challenging. Make sure it will have at least 2 stars. I asked Deif about this, too. And he agreed that the 'Salad' will feel boring if it stays as easy as it is now.
00:07:791 (3,1) - Potential place for some small dash.
00:13:180 - I agree more with manuxz's spinner start, check it out yourself. This way you can better emphasize the vocals which resume until 00:13:180 - .
00:23:726 (6,1) - Increase the distance to implement a dash. Right now it can be caught without dash and therefore does not fit the music. The pattern before should be changed, too. For instance:
SPOILER
00:26:772 (1,2,3) - Same here as above, make sure it has some dash effect.
00:30:873 (6) - Delete this clap hitsound, it's too much.
00:31:224 - You can add a note here and make sure it is connected with a dash to 00:31:459 (1) -
00:35:208 (1) - CTRL+G and move it to x432 or something close around that axis.
00:38:723 (4,5) - CTRL+G 00:38:958 (5) - and move it to x320
00:42:238 (4,5) - You can add a note at 00:42:473 - and connect it to 00:42:707 (5) - with another dash.
00:44:582 (3) - Feels empty, there should be a reverse arrow at 00:44:816 - to go better with this music.
00:45:988 (6,1,2,3) - First move 00:45:988 (6) - to x160 to get a triangle shape, then select 00:46:222 (1,2,3) - all together and CTRL+G that pattern and move it to x368. For reference, it should be looking this way:
SPOILER
00:53:721 - Add note and connect it to 00:53:955 (6) - with a Dash.
00:57:705 (6) - CTRL+G. Move just slightly to the right afterwards if the dash feels too rough for you, but keep it a Dash.
01:07:078 (4) - , 01:10:828 (6) - These both should have finish hitsounds and create dashes on them with their previous notes!
01:18:092 (4,5) - Why is this not a Dash?
01:22:076 (4) - Finish hitsound and dash with previous note.
01:25:825 (6) - ^
01:29:340 (3,4) - Dash T_T
01:33:090 - Do this:
SPOILER
01:36:839 - Add note and connect with 01:37:074 (1) - with another dash.
01:40:354 (7,8) - Since the mp3 abruptly ends at this place don't go with a dash at this point, the sound is already too low at this point. Do the following instead:
SPOILER
One last word: These were just some basic patterns. I want you to go through your map again and find more patterns to change and make sure this is not a half-done Salad anymore.

[Manuxz's Platter]

CS3,5 for a better spread between Cup and Platter (3>3,5>4)
Make sure that 00:04:510 (3) - and 00:05:916 (2) - have the same shape, one of them requires a stronger movement than the other, but keeping them consitent will guarantee a better flow.
00:08:728 (5,1) - Feels just awkward, the rough jump does not go well here, the vocals aren't loud enough for that. Move (1) to x200 or some grid around that.
00:09:431 (2,3,4) - If you try to follow the vocals, do it properly... 00:10:368 (4) - has to start at 00:10:603 - to make it follow the vocals. Thereupon, do not forget to change the hitsounds back to normal.
00:20:211 (1) - Don't use a spiky slider here, feels awkward to catch these outer droplets just after a HDash.
00:23:726 - You can add a note at this point and connect it to 00:23:960 (1) - with a SMALL HDash.
00:27:241 (5,1) - Plays really gross, way too rough movement. Try this instead:
SPOILER
00:31:459 (1) - Move the slider about 5-6 grids to the left, HDash feels a little too strong.
00:34:974 (6,1) - Similar situation here, decrease distance.
00:37:317 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This whole pattern is painful to play, the Dashes are a good idea but these are just too much, too much issues to catch all notes, so try this:
SPOILER
00:40:598 (6,1) - The vocas are too weak for a big HDash like this, reduce distance.
00:41:301 (2,3) - Wipe this HDash completely, there is no extraordinary beat to even think of adding any HDash here, not even a Dash. For instance move 00:41:770 (3) - to x364
00:44:347 (6,1) - Again too strong for the vocals, a normal dash feels better, so x40 for 00:44:582 (1) -
00:47:628 (3,1) - Imo not strong enough for such a Hyper, at least select 00:48:331 (1,2) - together and move that pattern to x180.
01:00:985 (3,1) - Terrible, terrible dash you gotta do at this point. Painful... Use a HDash because it will improve the flow, by moving 01:01:454 (1) - to x448. Plays soooo much better!
01:17:623 (2,3,1) - Nope, just leave (3) out at this point and create a HDash between (2) and (1), feels smoother. Like this:
SPOILER
01:20:904 (2) - Rotate this slider a little to the right (about 30°). This vertical sliders does not help the player to see where he has to go next.
01:33:207 (5) - Remove this, looks awkward. Do this:
SPOILER
This Platter can be way cleaner, definitely look for more modders.

[Rain]

00:08:962 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not necessary to have so many NC's. Really, just have one NC at 00:10:837 (1) - and another at 00:08:962 (1) - .
00:12:712 (1) - Let this spinner begin at 00:13:180 - , similar as Manuxz did in his Platter. It goes far better with the vocals.
00:30:990 (10,11) - This doesn't play smooth due to the following HDash. Going from a relatively high Dash to a HDash feels awkward, so I suggest to go double HDash at this point by moving 00:31:224 (11) - to x424. This will also be a great prelude for the following stanza.
00:31:459 (1) - CTRL+G and move it back to x48 for a better flow and creating a rebounce effect away from the left screen wall.
00:46:339 (4,1) - For some reason this HDash feels awkward. To have it more fluid, try a softer pattern like this:
SPOILER
00:49:737 (6,7) - Potential place for a Hdash to empathize the Finish Hitsound.
01:01:454 (1,2,3) - Way too boring interlude for a Kiai. Give it more action, like...:
SPOILER
01:05:204 - , 01:07:078 - Please... Please use Hdashes to emphasize the Finish hitsounds. at the slider tails. You can shorten these sliders and add some single notes to make sure that there is a bit of more challenge here fitting the music.
01:10:828 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Don't use only 1/1 sliders here, please. You can use the 1/4 ticks for example. Make use of more interesting timeline ideas as these:
1
2
01:18:209 (6,1) - A Hdash is pretty mandatory here due to the finish hitsound and start of the 2nd kiai.
You should add some more HDashes at the following points, again to emphasize your hitsounding in a better way: 01:19:733 (5,6) - , 01:21:607 (2,3) - , 01:25:825 -

Main issue is just the spread issue from Salad to Platter. Rain seems okay'ish. All in all this could need some more polish though, so watch out for a few more modders.

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-10-24T03:55:31+00:00

SYAHME wrote:
From my modding queue.
General

■ No problem.
Rain

■ HP Drain Rate : 6. Yes you are right, cuz the song is pasive
■ 00:39:661 (5) - this you want make a pause, if dont make it horizontal to the right a little bit. the first one, I want to add a little pause
■ 01:15:983 (7) - make it horizontal. there is another kind of sound here and I want to emphasize
■ 01:36:605 (4) - maybe you can just make it horizontal. changed a little bit, fixed
■ I think this diff overall is good, but there is some part that you can improve it. I know u.u Trying to get more useful mods
Good luck on ranking this. Sorry, Im strict person. :O me too :3333, naah is a joke xD

Thank you very much for your mod SYAHME :3

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-10-24T04:22:14+00:00

Sey wrote:
[General]
Generally the set has a bad spread. The Salad has 1,68 stars, then it jumps right off to 2,89 stars (+1,21 stars) in the platter and just 3,21 stars (+0,32 stars) for the Rain. The gaps between all difficulties need to be well balanced. I'm totally agree, I'll discuss it with Manuxz and QHideaki
Have you made sure this timing is correct? Unfortunaltely I got not enough time to do a full timing check atm, but on a few parts it feels a little off. I am not sure if that imprecise BPM you used, is correct. Please consult someone before you try getting this qualified, in order to double-check. Yeah, this is not the first time that I heard that, Yuii- told me that my map have more than 2 offsets, I'll ask to my friends about that, thanks
[Q-H's Salad]

AR/OD7 for a better spread between the difficulties (7>8>9) Totally agree, my diff is already 9;9
[Manuxz's Platter]
This Platter can be way cleaner, definitely look for more modders. u.u Where are you Manuxz?
[Rain]
00:08:962 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not necessary to have so many NC's. Really, just have one NC at 00:10:837 (1) - and another at 00:08:962 (1) - . This was my doubt since I started to map ctb, I just need to learn more about mapping on Ctb
00:12:712 (1) - Let this spinner begin at 00:13:180 - , similar as Manuxz did in his Platter. It goes far better with the vocals. Fixed, furthermore I added a new note at 00:12:712 -
00:30:990 (10,11) - This doesn't play smooth due to the following HDash. Going from a relatively high Dash to a HDash feels awkward, so I suggest to go double HDash at this point by moving 00:31:224 (11) - to x424. This will also be a great prelude for the following stanza. This is great because this map need more High Hdashes
00:31:459 (1) - CTRL+G and move it back to x48 for a better flow and creating a rebounce effect away from the left screen wall. fixed~~
00:46:339 (4,1) - For some reason this HDash feels awkward. To have it more fluid, try a softer pattern like this: fixed~~ I felt this pattern awkaward since the beginning
SPOILER

00:49:737 (6,7) - Potential place for a Hdash to empathize the Finish Hitsound. Yeah, you are right
01:01:454 (1,2,3) - Way too boring interlude for a Kiai. Give it more action, like...: Nice idea
SPOILER
01:05:204 - , 01:07:078 - Please... Please use Hdashes to emphasize the Finish hitsounds. at the slider tails. You can shorten these sliders and add some single notes to make sure that there is a bit of more challenge here fitting the music. Ok I'll work on it cuz I don't want to break my current pattern, WIP
01:10:828 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Don't use only 1/1 sliders here, please. You can use the 1/4 ticks for example. Make use of more interesting timeline ideas as these: I like how does it feel, I'll try some patterns like your pic but I rather 1/1 sliders than 1/4 patterns cuz the song is too pasive
1
2
01:18:209 (6,1) - A Hdash is pretty mandatory here due to the finish hitsound and start of the 2nd kiai. Yeah working on it, searching a better place for the next notes
You should add some more HDashes at the following points, again to emphasize your hitsounding in a better way: 01:19:733 (5,6) - , 01:21:607 (2,3) - , 01:25:825 - working on it too

Main issue is just the spread issue from Salad to Platter. Rain seems okay'ish. All in all this could need some more polish though, so watch out for a few more modders.

How amazing mod omg, I'll update my finish diff tomorrow cuz I want to add more quality to my map

Last edited by -Sh1n1- 2015-10-26T03:08:05+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

QHideaki13

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QHideaki13 2015-10-25T11:12:14+00:00

Sey

AR/OD7 for a better spread between the difficulties (7>8>9) ( Fixed from the previous mod, guess it didn't get an update. )
1,68 stars and you need exactly 1 dash to FC this Salad. All in all, this is not a Salad, but a 'challenging' cup. Nevertheless, this set needs a Salad due to the spread. So what I focus mainly in this mod is making this Salad more challenging. Make sure it will have at least 2 stars. I asked Deif about this, too. And he agreed that the 'Salad' will feel boring if it stays as easy as it is now. ( Well... yeah. I agree with that, except the 2 stars. )
00:07:791 (3,1) - Potential place for some small dash. ( Fixed )
00:13:180 - I agree more with manuxz's spinner start, check it out yourself. This way you can better emphasize the vocals which resume until 00:13:180 - . ( At first I want to keep it to differentiate with the Platter, but then I think it looks much better. Fixed. )
00:23:726 (6,1) - Increase the distance to implement a dash. Right now it can be caught without dash and therefore does not fit the music. The pattern before should be changed, too. For instance: ( Made the changes and fixed~ )
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3853960
00:26:772 (1,2,3) - Same here as above, make sure it has some dash effect. ( Fixed )
00:30:873 (6) - Delete this clap hitsound, it's too much. ( Fixed )
00:31:224 - You can add a note here and make sure it is connected with a dash to 00:31:459 (1) - ( No changes, looks complicated for a Salad. )
00:35:208 (1) - CTRL+G and move it to x432 or something close around that axis. ( Fixed )
00:38:723 (4,5) - CTRL+G 00:38:958 (5) - and move it to x320 ( Did some small changes here )
00:42:238 (4,5) - You can add a note at 00:42:473 - and connect it to 00:42:707 (5) - with another dash. ( Fixed )
00:44:582 (3) - Feels empty, there should be a reverse arrow at 00:44:816 - to go better with this music. ( Fixed )
00:45:988 (6,1,2,3) - First move 00:45:988 (6) - to x160 to get a triangle shape, then select 00:46:222 (1,2,3) - all together and CTRL+G that pattern and move it to x368. For reference, it should be looking this way: ( Nice one, fixed~ )
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3854010
00:53:721 - Add note and connect it to 00:53:955 (6) - with a Dash. ( Added )
00:57:705 (6) - CTRL+G. Move just slightly to the right afterwards if the dash feels too rough for you, but keep it a Dash. ( Did some small changes here as well )
01:07:078 (4) - , 01:10:828 (6) - These both should have finish hitsounds and create dashes on them with their previous notes!
( Added and fixed! )
01:18:092 (4,5) - Why is this not a Dash? ( I thought the distance was not close enough, fixed~ )
01:22:076 (4) - Finish hitsound and dash with previous note. ( Added and fixed )
01:25:825 (6) - ^ ( Fixed )
01:29:340 (3,4) - Dash T_T ( Fixed )
01:33:090 - Do this: ( Done )
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3854036
01:36:839 - Add note and connect with 01:37:074 (1) - with another dash. ( Added )
01:40:354 (7,8) - Since the mp3 abruptly ends at this place don't go with a dash at this point, the sound is already too low at this point. Do the following instead: ( Great idea, fixed~ )
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3854055
One last word: These were just some basic patterns. I want you to go through your map again and find more patterns to change and make sure this is not a half-done Salad anymore.

Hmm... I will try to be clear here. I have my reason for not pushing this more than 2 stars. Considering that I have reviewed all of your mods, the limit I can go through is around 1.85~1.90 stars (from 1.68 stars of course). Else, if I pushed it further, it will be jumps here and there, which I think doesn't fit with the tempo and the pattern itself. I have tried to make some adjustment without ruining the mod suggested, so hopefully... it goes well.

Thanks for the mod, Sey~

Update

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-10-26T03:09:50+00:00

Thanks Hideaki :3 updated, I talked with manuxz and he said that his update will be ready at Tuesday *-*/

Manuxz

642 posts

Joined July 2012

Manuxz 2015-10-27T17:51:34+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
Platter
00:37:317 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would make this pattern slightly easier, might be challenging for a platter. I will work in this
00:46:222 (3,4,1) - Space more away from each other? done
01:03:094 (6,1) - HDash here, this is a really strong beat! Nop, for a Platter I think the pattern is fine
01:38:948 (3,4,5) - At this point, you can make these the stream that appears in the music, it might fit it better. ok o:

Thanks for the mod Absolute Zero ovo

Equim wrote:
[Manuxz's Platter]
This diff is too like a convert.
00:37:317 (1,2,3,4,5) - ctrl+shift+S, 0.85x. No, but if I'm going to try another pattern here
01:01:454 (1) - x352 Nop

Thanks for the mini-mod Equim xD

SYAHME wrote:
Manuxz's Platter

■ 00:07:791 (2,3,4,5) - Ctrl + H and move to right at x:282. I prefer to keep the pattern
■ 00:11:306 (5) - make it horizontal like *this to make some movement. Done
■ 00:17:867 (3) - Ctrl + G? Why? o-o
■ 00:23:960 (1) - make it close to previous notes. No, I want to emphasize the sound wiith that jump
■ 00:27:709 (1) - too far!!! I will seek a solution
■ 00:37:317 (1,2,3,4,5) - make it close between them. ^
■ 00:51:612 (4) - this is weird maybe you can horizontal it to the left a little. Nop
■ 01:00:985 (3,1) - maybe you can make hyperdash between them. Done ovo
■ 01:01:923 (2) - make it close to previous slider.
■ 01:02:391 (3,4,5,6) - this is no no, you can make simple stream like 'C'. AFB have told me that, this maybe not right in platter. I talked Zirox and to told me is on the limit but is acceptable
■ 01:20:904 (2) - again? make it horizontal to the left a little bit. oki
■ 01:38:948 (3,4,5) - this, if you make this part stream it is more fun. Use all the drum sound. Done with the previous mod

Thanks for de mod SYAHME n.n

Sey wrote:
[General][Manuxz's Platter]
CS3,5 for a better spread between Cup and Platter (3>3,5>4) Done
Make sure that 00:04:510 (3) - and 00:05:916 (2) - have the same shape, one of them requires a stronger movement than the other, but keeping them consitent will guarantee a better flow. Sure (;
00:08:728 (5,1) - Feels just awkward, the rough jump does not go well here, the vocals aren't loud enough for that. Move (1) to x200 or some grid around that. Oky u.u
00:09:431 (2,3,4) - If you try to follow the vocals, do it properly... 00:10:368 (4) - has to start at 00:10:603 - to make it follow the vocals. Thereupon, do not forget to change the hitsounds back to normal. Done
00:20:211 (1) - Don't use a spiky slider here, feels awkward to catch these outer droplets just after a HDash.
00:23:726 - You can add a note at this point and connect it to 00:23:960 (1) - with a SMALL HDash. done -u-
00:27:241 (5,1) - Plays really gross, way too rough movement. Try this instead: YEEES *-* Sugoi >u<
SPOILER
00:31:459 (1) - Move the slider about 5-6 grids to the left, HDash feels a little too strong. Ok
00:34:974 (6,1) - Similar situation here, decrease distance. ^
00:37:317 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This whole pattern is painful to play, the Dashes are a good idea but these are just too much, too much issues to catch all notes, so try this: Thanks owo
SPOILER
00:40:598 (6,1) - The vocas are too weak for a big HDash like this, reduce distance. Done ^^
00:41:301 (2,3) - Wipe this HDash completely, there is no extraordinary beat to even think of adding any HDash here, not even a Dash. For instance move 00:41:770 (3) - to x364 ^
00:44:347 (6,1) - Again too strong for the vocals, a normal dash feels better, so x40 for 00:44:582 (1) - Ok
00:47:628 (3,1) - Imo not strong enough for such a Hyper, at least select 00:48:331 (1,2) - together and move that pattern to x180. ^
01:00:985 (3,1) - Terrible, terrible dash you gotta do at this point. Painful... Use a HDash because it will improve the flow, by moving 01:01:454 (1) - to x448. Plays soooo much better! Definitely yes
01:17:623 (2,3,1) - Nope, just leave (3) out at this point and create a HDash between (2) and (1), feels smoother. Like this: done
SPOILER
01:20:904 (2) - Rotate this slider a little to the right (about 30°). This vertical sliders does not help the player to see where he has to go next. ^
01:33:207 (5) - Remove this, looks awkward. Do this: Done nwn
SPOILER
This Platter can be way cleaner, definitely look for more modders. Right in the kokoro </3 uwu

Thnks for the mod Sey and it's good to see you again modding owo

Actualización: Picale mijo ovo

Perdón por la demora Shini u.u

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-10-28T00:12:20+00:00

Gracias Manuxz :3

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-11-15T13:39:41+00:00

Mod by PM request

General Comments:

Song Folder: No issues
Song Setup: Suggest changing HP on Platter to 5, gives a more even spread of 4/5/6
Metadata: No issues
Timing: Why not start mapping at 00:00:292 -? It feels really weird to start the map half way through a vocal line :/
Hitsounds: No issues
AImod: No issues

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Q-H's Salad

00:02:635 (4) - Awkward rhythm, since you leave the more prominent vocal note on 00:02:401 unmapped, as well as ending on the weaker red tick vocal note instead of the stronger white tick at 00:02:870 -. I'd move this back 1/2
00:04:041 (1,2,3) - Movement to (2) feels awkward to play as it's on the border of requiring dash, and you didn't use dash in the previous combo so it feels inconsistent. If you do want a jump, it should be to (3), but I'd reduce the spacing either way for a clearer to read spacing
00:23:023 - Skipping the kick drum beat here negatively impacts on the rhythm in my opinion, I'd add a circle here at x-336 to emphasise the clap hitsounds on the following notes, or alternatively, shift all of 00:23:023 (4,5,6) back 1/2
00:31:224 - Missing a strong tom drum beat here, adding a circle also allows you to create a fitting dash to the cymbal sound at 00:31:459 (1)
00:31:927 (2,3,4) - A little more movement on these would be welcome, although this section of the song is calm, this just feels a little too plain imo
00:42:707 - 00:55:361 - Any reason why you stopped NCing on the downbeat as you did in previous sections? I know you want to avoid too long combos in this section with higher note density, but you can still do this whilst maintaining a 4 beat NC pattern. At present, it feels weird and inconsistent
00:45:988 (6,1) - Please reduce the spacing here a little, the 1/2 dash is quite unexpected and when combined with the antiflow new players are very likely to struggle here
00:57:705 (6) - As above, this is the start of a new stanza and so should really have a NC in my opinion
00:59:111 (1,2) - Consider reversing the order of these on the timeline so you can add a dash to the strong cymbal sound on the downbeat, consistent with previous patterns
01:26:294 (1,2,3) - I'd opt for slightly more spacing on these, the current distance makes it a little unclear as to whether dash is needed or not. Try moving (2) to x-352
01:31:449 (4) - Dash to this note feels strange, even though it's a downbeat note, it's no more prominent than the previous ones.

Platter

00:18:570 (2,3) - This spacing is close to the border of requiring dash so can be a little confusing in this slow section. The 00:19:742 (4,1) hyper could do with being reduced a tiny bit anyway, so I'd move 00:19:273 (3,4) to x-488
00:22:085 (1,2) - As above, perhaps move 00:23:023 (2) to x-128 and keep (3) at x-48 for a smoother flowing curve
00:40:364 (5,6,1) - Double dash feels weird here since this section is no more intense than the previous rhythms. 00:40:598 (6) at x-408 is more fitting
00:44:347 (6,1) - I'd reduce this spacing a tiny bit, it's quite unexpected when combined with the antiflow
00:55:127 (3) - The low angle on this slider means that you have to slow right down to play it, which kills the flow. Try making it more horizontal, or making an anticlockwise curve for a smoother flow
01:03:329 (1) - I'd move this to the right, moving right twice between 01:02:860 (5,6,1) creates a stuttered tap-dash flow that's awkward to play at this difficulty. Try moving it to x-336 instead
01:05:204 (1) - Make this more horizontal or curve clockwise for a smoother flow after the hdash, it's quite an awkward transition at the moment
01:33:793 (2) - The red tick has a pretty strong vocal note, might be worth making this into a 1/2 slider. You have adequate pause moments after the spinner and at 01:37:074 (1,2,3) so I feel it's fine to map this beat

Rain
Some combos in this diff can get really long, e.g 00:16:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - don't forget that slider tails and repeats count as "fruits" too, and on Ryuuta's plate these can easily stack up and obstruct the player's view. Given your note density, I'd like to see these combos broken into two, e.g for this one NC at 00:18:102 (7) - etc.

00:23:960 (1) - The curve on this slider creates a stopped flow for a short period, which feels a little awkward to play. I'd recommend creating a larger curve for a smoother flow
00:31:459 (1) - Slight horizontal movement can be confusing here, as you have to trasnition from strong hyper to very soft regular movement. I'd either make this more vertical, or more horizontal for a more easily readable transition
00:35:443 (4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern can feel a little repetitive here with the left/right 1/2 hypers. Try Ctrl+H'ing 00:36:614 (7,8,9,1,2) for a zig-zag between 00:36:146 (6,7) that adds a little variety without affecting your other patterns too much
00:45:753 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Lots of quick dashes to the left here feels a little repetitive, try Ctrl+H 00:47:159 (3) and move to x-192, then Ctrl+H 00:47:863 (4) and move to x-356
01:24:185 (5) - Could you make this a little more horizontal? I find it quite easy to overshoot and droplet miss at the moment
01:29:575 (1,2) - Lack of movement here creates an awkward stoppage in flow, try Ctrl+G 01:30:043 (3) and moving 01:29:575 (1,2) to the left. A hdash between 01:29:106 (5,1) fits nicely for the strong cymbal sound

This is all from me. Hopefully you find this mod helpful, but if you have any questions, feel free to get back to me and I'll do what I can to help.

Good luck! (:

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2015-11-15T15:49:32+00:00

JBHyperion

00:02:635 (4) - Awkward rhythm, since you leave the more prominent vocal note on 00:02:401 unmapped, as well as ending on the weaker red tick vocal note instead of the stronger white tick at 00:02:870 -. I'd move this back 1/2 ( Fixed )
00:04:041 (1,2,3) - Movement to (2) feels awkward to play as it's on the border of requiring dash, and you didn't use dash in the previous combo so it feels inconsistent. If you do want a jump, it should be to (3), but I'd reduce the spacing either way for a clearer to read spacing ( Dragged (1) a bit closer to the next note )
00:23:023 - Skipping the kick drum beat here negatively impacts on the rhythm in my opinion, I'd add a circle here at x-336 to emphasise the clap hitsounds on the following notes, or alternatively, shift all of 00:23:023 (4,5,6) back 1/2 ( I choose the former one and added a circle at x:304 instead )
00:31:224 - Missing a strong tom drum beat here, adding a circle also allows you to create a fitting dash to the cymbal sound at 00:31:459 (1) ( No changes, looks complicated for a Salad. )
00:31:927 (2,3,4) - A little more movement on these would be welcome, although this section of the song is calm, this just feels a little too plain imo ( Made some changes here based on the suggestion )
00:42:707 - 00:55:361 - Any reason why you stopped NCing on the downbeat as you did in previous sections? I know you want to avoid too long combos in this section with higher note density, but you can still do this whilst maintaining a 4 beat NC pattern. At present, it feels weird and inconsistent ( Yeah, I probably mislooked that. Fixed. )
00:45:988 (6,1) - Please reduce the spacing here a little, the 1/2 dash is quite unexpected and when combined with the antiflow new players are very likely to struggle here ( Fixed )
00:57:705 (6) - As above, this is the start of a new stanza and so should really have a NC in my opinion ( Done )
00:59:111 (1,2) - Consider reversing the order of these on the timeline so you can add a dash to the strong cymbal sound on the downbeat, consistent with previous patterns ( Done )
01:26:294 (1,2,3) - I'd opt for slightly more spacing on these, the current distance makes it a little unclear as to whether dash is needed or not. Try moving (2) to x-352 ( Fixed )
01:31:449 (4) - Dash to this note feels strange, even though it's a downbeat note, it's no more prominent than the previous ones.
( Made a minor change here )

Thanks for the mod, JBHyperion~

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-11-16T02:07:14+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Mod by PM request

General Comments:
Song Folder: No issues
Song Setup: Suggest changing HP on Platter to 5, gives a more even spread of 4/5/6 I´ll leave it to Manuxz
Metadata: No issues
Timing: Why not start mapping at 00:00:292 -? It feels really weird to start the map half way through a vocal line :/ That´s true but is more weird to map only vocal
Hitsounds: No issues
AImod: No issues
Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Rain
Some combos in this diff can get really long, e.g 00:16:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - don't forget that slider tails and repeats count as "fruits" too, and on Ryuuta's plate these can easily stack up and obstruct the player's view. Given your note density, I'd like to see these combos broken into two, e.g for this one NC at 00:18:102 (7) - etc. Yeah, you are right, I thought that making long combos were nice at ctb but it seems that NC are similar to std

00:23:960 (1) - The curve on this slider creates a stopped flow for a short period, which feels a little awkward to play. I'd recommend creating a larger curve for a smoother flow fixed~~
00:31:459 (1) - Slight horizontal movement can be confusing here, as you have to trasnition from strong hyper to very soft regular movement. I'd either make this more vertical, or more horizontal for a more easily readable transition changed into more vertical
00:35:443 (4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern can feel a little repetitive here with the left/right 1/2 hypers. Try Ctrl+H'ing 00:36:614 (7,8,9,1,2) for a zig-zag between 00:36:146 (6,7) that adds a little variety without affecting your other patterns too much I don´t like how it feels this zig-zag furthermore it can be repetitive but follow voice nicer with this pattern
00:45:753 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Lots of quick dashes to the left here feels a little repetitive, try Ctrl+H 00:47:159 (3) and move to x-192, then Ctrl+H 00:47:863 (4) and move to x-356 I´m agree with 00:47:159 (3) but not with the second one cuz it will affect next patterns and will be a pain to remap this part :c feels good at test
01:24:185 (5) - Could you make this a little more horizontal? I find it quite easy to overshoot and droplet miss at the moment ups, my bad D:
01:29:575 (1,2) - Lack of movement here creates an awkward stoppage in flow, try Ctrl+G 01:30:043 (3) and moving 01:29:575 (1,2) to the left. A hdash between 01:29:106 (5,1) fits nicely for the strong cymbal sound Yeah you are right, fixed~~
This is all from me. Hopefully you find this mod helpful, but if you have any questions, feel free to get back to me and I'll do what I can to help. Oki, Thanks for your mod :3

Good luck! (:

Thank you very much JBH-senpai

Manuxz

642 posts

Joined July 2012

Manuxz 2015-11-17T01:36:03+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Platter
00:18:570 (2,3) - This spacing is close to the border of requiring dash so can be a little confusing in this slow section. The 00:19:742 (4,1) hyper could do with being reduced a tiny bit anyway, so I'd move 00:19:273 (3,4) to x-488 Done
00:22:085 (1,2) - As above, perhaps move 00:23:023 (2) to x-128 and keep (3) at x-48 for a smoother flowing curve Nice o:
00:40:364 (5,6,1) - Double dash feels weird here since this section is no more intense than the previous rhythms. 00:40:598 (6) at x-408 is more fitting ok
00:44:347 (6,1) - I'd reduce this spacing a tiny bit, it's quite unexpected when combined with the antiflow Done XD
00:55:127 (3) - The low angle on this slider means that you have to slow right down to play it, which kills the flow. Try making it more horizontal, or making an anticlockwise curve for a smoother flow add curve o3o
01:03:329 (1) - I'd move this to the right, moving right twice between 01:02:860 (5,6,1) creates a stuttered tap-dash flow that's awkward to play at this difficulty. Try moving it to x-336 instead OHH YEAAAH, sure <3
01:05:204 (1) - Make this more horizontal or curve clockwise for a smoother flow after the hdash, it's quite an awkward transition at the moment done
01:33:793 (2) - The red tick has a pretty strong vocal note, might be worth making this into a 1/2 slider. You have adequate pause moments after the spinner and at 01:37:074 (1,2,3) so I feel it's fine to map this beat add slider 1/2

Thanks for the mod JBHyperion n.n

Actualización o3o

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-11-17T01:39:42+00:00

Manuxz wrote:
JBHyperion wrote:
Platter
00:18:570 (2,3) - This spacing is close to the border of requiring dash so can be a little confusing in this slow section. The 00:19:742 (4,1) hyper could do with being reduced a tiny bit anyway, so I'd move 00:19:273 (3,4) to x-488 Done
00:22:085 (1,2) - As above, perhaps move 00:23:023 (2) to x-128 and keep (3) at x-48 for a smoother flowing curve Nice o:
00:40:364 (5,6,1) - Double dash feels weird here since this section is no more intense than the previous rhythms. 00:40:598 (6) at x-408 is more fitting ok
00:44:347 (6,1) - I'd reduce this spacing a tiny bit, it's quite unexpected when combined with the antiflow Done XD
00:55:127 (3) - The low angle on this slider means that you have to slow right down to play it, which kills the flow. Try making it more horizontal, or making an anticlockwise curve for a smoother flow add curve o3o
01:03:329 (1) - I'd move this to the right, moving right twice between 01:02:860 (5,6,1) creates a stuttered tap-dash flow that's awkward to play at this difficulty. Try moving it to x-336 instead OHH YEAAAH, sure <3
01:05:204 (1) - Make this more horizontal or curve clockwise for a smoother flow after the hdash, it's quite an awkward transition at the moment done
01:33:793 (2) - The red tick has a pretty strong vocal note, might be worth making this into a 1/2 slider. You have adequate pause moments after the spinner and at 01:37:074 (1,2,3) so I feel it's fine to map this beat add slider 1/2
Thanks for the mod JBHyperion n.n

Actualización o3o

Updated :3

MBomb

MBomb 2015-11-17T21:46:05+00:00

Mod requested in my queue.

Salad

00:05:916 (5,6) - I feel introducing a dash this early is a bit strange, I think it'd be best to wait a bit longer by moving this section to x:240.
00:19:273 (2,3,4) - Move this section to x:384, just to make the dash more obvious to newer players.
00:37:083 (5) - x:448, same reason as above.
00:45:519 (2) - I don't think a dash to this really fits the music, the note here ins't very strong. Maybe just move this to x:192?
00:47:863 (1,2,3,4) - Double dashing isn't recommended in a salad, and it doesn't really fit the song very well either. Maybe move 1 to x:96, 3 to x:64, and 4 to x:272. This also adds some distance between 4 and 5 which I feel is nice for the claps.

Platter

00:23:960 (1) - x:492 is a good place for this, it doesn't seem that different but the flow feels better for a newer player.
00:27:709 (1) - x:64 please, having a HDash this close to the wall isn't recommended.
00:31:459 (1) - Ctrl+g, Ctrl+H, move to x:420, feels a lot better flow, due to the sliders movement starting off in the hyper direction.
00:50:206 (1) - x:28 feels a lot better placement for me, the flow feels slightly better with a weaker hyper.
01:12:702 (1) - x:48 please, the antiflow on this slider plays better with a weaker hyper.

Nice platter. Maybe adding a few more normal dashes would be nice, but honestly it's quite good how it is now.

Rain

00:18:570 (2,3) - I think it'd be better to have the HDash to 3 here rather than to 2, as there is a stronger note on 3 through the strong chime. Move 2 to x:256 and 3 to x:104.
00:25:366 (4) - There is no strong sound on 5, I'm not quite sure why you put a HDash there. Move this to x:168, feels a lot better to me.
00:26:538 (2) - Split this into two circles, as a HDash would fit nicely to where the slider end currently is for the high pitched chime. Put the first circle on x:84 and the second on x:400.
01:09:422 (4) - I don't think this note is strong enough to have a HDash to it, this sound is a weak drum beat, it's better to leave this as a normal movement at x:264.
01:11:296 (2,3,4) - Hyper placement here feels really weird, none of these notes are particularly strong. Ctrl+H 2 and move it to x:256, then move 3 to x:176. This should make some interesting movements without having to use unfitting HDashes.

Great Rain overall.

Alright, done.

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2015-11-17T22:11:28+00:00

Fixed all according to the suggestion except 00:47:863 (1,2,3,4) - , I made a slight changes there.

Thanks for the mod, - Magic Bomb - ~

Update

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Manuxz

642 posts

Joined July 2012

Manuxz 2015-11-18T16:38:16+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Mod requested in my queue.

Platter
00:23:960 (1) - x:492 is a good place for this, it doesn't seem that different but the flow feels better for a newer player. Done
00:27:709 (1) - x:64 please, having a HDash this close to the wall isn't recommended. ^
00:31:459 (1) - Ctrl+g, Ctrl+H, move to x:420, feels a lot better flow, due to the sliders movement starting off in the hyper direction. Sure o:
00:50:206 (1) - x:28 feels a lot better placement for me, the flow feels slightly better with a weaker hyper. Done
01:12:702 (1) - x:48 please, the antiflow on this slider plays better with a weaker hyper. ^

Nice platter. Maybe adding a few more normal dashes would be nice, but honestly it's quite good how it is now. Ty :3 I need to maintain consistency with the Rain ;w;

Thanks for the mod Magic Bomb nwn

Actualización o3o

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-11-19T02:30:09+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Mod requested in my queue.

Rain
00:18:570 (2,3) - I think it'd be better to have the HDash to 3 here rather than to 2, as there is a stronger note on 3 through the strong chime. Move 2 to x:256 and 3 to x:104. It was a good idea but I want to keep cuz I want to enphasize piano high pitch at 00:19:273 (3) -, keeping consistency with 00:20:211 - 00:21:617 - 00:23:960 - etc.
00:25:366 (4) - There is no strong sound on 5, I'm not quite sure why you put a HDash there. Move this to x:168, feels a lot better to me. yes, you are right, I'm agree with HDash is not necessary here, it keeps consistency with the next part too, nice catch, but about moving to x:168 I'm not agree because the note will be too close and Is not my stile cuz I was keeping normal distance with 1.70 and 1.60, it looks more polite, changed into another way
00:26:538 (2) - Split this into two circles, as a HDash would fit nicely to where the slider end currently is for the high pitched chime. Put the first circle on x:84 and the second on x:400. I don't think so, I'm using HDash only at high piano pitch, and there isn't furthermore to keep consistency with 00:18:570 (2,3) -
01:09:422 (4) - I don't think this note is strong enough to have a HDash to it, this sound is a weak drum beat, it's better to leave this as a normal movement at x:264. I spend a lot of time trying to fixing this and my last conclusion was that I'll keep for one reason, I want to enphasize this kind of sound 01:07:547 - 01:09:422 - why not at 01:08:484 - ? because will be too repetitive and adding variety the flow is perfect, I don't want normal jumps, I need HDashes to make this diff as a Rain should be.
01:11:296 (2,3,4) - Hyper placement here feels really weird, none of these notes are particularly strong. Ctrl+H 2 and move it to x:256, then move 3 to x:176. This should make some interesting movements without having to use unfitting HDashes. mmm not agree cuz follow voice better and as I said before I want to make this diff more like a Rain should be not like a hard Platter :c

Great Rain overall.

Alright, done.

Thanks for your mod MB~~

Platter and Salad updated, Thanks guys :3 It'll be rank soon if we continue answering fast :3 ♥

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-11-20T11:39:32+00:00

Hey there~ M4M as requested via forum PM~

Unrankable issues
My opinion which I highly recommend changing it
Small suggestions/Nazi

[General]

All clear

[Q-H's Salad]

00:34:505 (5,6) - Just a small minor thing regarding the aesthetics, the distance that these notes have are lesser than 00:38:255 (2,3) - and similar others, when they are emphasizing on the same clap in the background. They should have the same distance value due to this, to both improve the aesthetics as well as emphasizing the clap properly.
Ah well, nothing much to say here, a great Salad

[Manuxz's Platter]

01:02:391 (3,4,5,6) - Either this is real hard or I just suck at playing CtB o.o IMO, you could have made the distances a little bit more smaller to make the fruits linear to catch, as some of them(only for me, idk for others) feel like they might need a dash, or may not need a dash.(Basically confusing IMO)
01:34:262 (3) - The H-Dash here feels out of place, for it having not the same beat or instruments like all the other H-dashes did in the kiai; the distance feels overdone without a reason really.
A good Platter overall. I was expecting few more dashes here and there, but I guess this is fine due to the spread.

[Rain]

00:07:088 (4) - I wonder why is this note having a H-Dash when it is at the same strength like 00:03:338 (5) - ...
00:18:570 (2) - Something similar like above, but this is regarding the H-Dash following the piano. If it did, technically 00:22:320 (5) - should be having this as well, and also some others should also have it.
01:23:716 (4) - Since the whole second kiai made finish spams in the downbeats, this should be having a finish as well, instead of a whistle.
01:29:575 (1) - Ok no finish here just feels a little bit odd ;-; The cymbals are clearly heard in the background, it would be recommendable to add a finish to emphasize on that.
A good Rain I wish I could give more movement related mods, but I still suck at CtB modding :/

That is all from me. GL!

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2015-11-20T12:09:15+00:00

Done! Thanks for the mod, [Sc4v4ng3r] ~

Update

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Manuxz

642 posts

Joined July 2012

Manuxz 2015-11-20T16:39:30+00:00

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
[Manuxz's Platter]
01:02:391 (3,4,5,6) - Either this is real hard or I just suck at playing CtB o.o IMO, you could have made the distances a little bit more smaller to make the fruits linear to catch, as some of them(only for me, idk for others) feel like they might need a dash, or may not need a dash.(Basically confusing IMO) I understand your observation but in my opinion this Platter lacking of difficulty and never hurts some difficulty. In addition I have understood that the pattern is within the acceptable for a Platter
01:34:262 (3) - The H-Dash here feels out of place, for it having not the same beat or instruments like all the other H-dashes did in the kiai; the distance feels overdone without a reason really. Fixed :3
A good Platter overall. I was expecting few more dashes here and there, but I guess this is fine due to the spread. Ty :3 The bpm doesn't help much u.u

Actualización o3o

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-11-21T02:27:56+00:00

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
Hey there~ M4M as requested via forum PM~ Hey~~

Unrankable issues
My opinion which I highly recommend changing it
Small suggestions/Nazi

[General]
All clear
[Rain]
00:07:088 (4) - I wonder why is this note having a H-Dash when it is at the same strength like 00:03:338 (5) - ... this could be like your map xD I started with calm jumps but adding enphasis to vocal
00:18:570 (2) - Something similar like above, but this is regarding the H-Dash following the piano. If it did, technically 00:22:320 (5) - should be having this as well, and also some others should also have it. I'm totally agree with you, I delete jump between 00:21:382 (3,4) - to keep consistency with 00:29:115 (4,5) - Nice catch
01:23:716 (4) - Since the whole second kiai made finish spams in the downbeats, this should be having a finish as well, instead of a whistle. No sounds good cuz voice is decreasing
01:29:575 (1) - Ok no finish here just feels a little bit odd ;-; The cymbals are clearly heard in the background, it would be recommendable to add a finish to emphasize on that. Oh wow, nicee *-*/ Thanks
A good Rain I wish I could give more movement related mods, but I still suck at CtB modding :/ *-*/ don't worry, It was a quite helpful
That is all from me. GL!

Thanks for your mod Sc4v4ng3r GDs updated,~~I'll finish tomorrow~~

Last edited by -Sh1n1- 2015-11-21T20:46:29+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Rocma

Former osu!catch Champion: 2022

526 posts

Joined November 2010

Rocma 2015-11-21T05:58:56+00:00

Pretty nice map

[Rain]

00:39:661 (3) - more slant it
01:01:454 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - http://puu.sh/lt6Fb/e0a8775c6f.jpg
01:17:155 (2) - make more smooth
01:17:858 (3) - consider this shape
01:38:948 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - managing dash will be hard. So I recommend them -> http://puu.sh/lt76a/bdee7f8dd4.jpg http://puu.sh/lt78B/dd4f02710e.jpg

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-11-21T21:11:58+00:00

No492_Shaymin wrote:
Pretty nice map

[Rain]

00:39:661 (3) - more slant it Fixed~~
01:01:454 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - http://puu.sh/lt6Fb/e0a8775c6f.jpg First of all, how cute skin www xD, and yes you are right, I added a longer distance between 01:01:923 (3,1) - is not than longer as I want but follow the song nicer
01:17:155 (2) - make more smooth It's a great movement cuz the song and bpm are too low, keep
01:17:858 (3) - consider this shape I prefer my current pattern, sorry :c
01:38:948 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - managing dash will be hard. So I recommend them -> http://puu.sh/lt76a/bdee7f8dd4.jpg http://puu.sh/lt78B/dd4f02710e.jpg

Looks similar as my current pattern and I don't want to change it cuz spacing between fruits are good to me

*-*/ Thank you very much Shaymin :3

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2015-12-11T13:15:27+00:00

Hello o/

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[

General]

Source

I think it is better to replace 'Gokusen' as 'ごくせん' as it is the original name of the source.

Tags
Then you can add 'Gokusen' as one of the tags.

Background Image
Optional only, I think the original ones are much better because they are revelant. Maybe you can consider changing them to a revelant one? :^)

Length
I suggest ending the difficulties at 01:40:823 as it is the place where sounds go silent. You may add inherited points at 01:40:706 and 01:40:823 to lower the volume, that it won't sound awkward.

[

Q-H's Salad]

Gameplay

00:23:726 (7,1) - This is surely too tough for beginners (who just start playing Salad). I suggest lowering the distance here to make it easier for jumping.
00:30:990 (7,1) - In my opinion here should include a dash (small dash would be fine), in order to emphasize the Finish at (1) and also the stanza change. You might have to rework on 00:30:756 (5,6,7,1,2) in order to fit the dash.
01:05:907 - 01:15:046 - In this part, there are no dashes required to full combo it, which is too plain compared to non-Kiai-Time parts (since notes in Kiai Time should be slightly intense than normal parts). Therefore you might want to add some dashes at this part to make it more interesting.

[

Manuxz's Platter]

Difficulty Settings

Lower the HP from 5.5 to 5, in order to fit the spread of having HP gradually increasing along the difficulties.

Gameplay
00:47:628 (3,1) - I feel like the HDash is unnecessary as it is not emphasizing Finish like you did before.
00:55:127 (3,1) - ^
01:02:391 (3,4,5,6,1) - This part is easy to miss, since (3,4,5,6) are all nearly-straight sliders and players may easily miss the tail of each sliders. Hence I suggest changing the pattern here to make it easier.
01:38:948 (3,4,5,6,7) - It is really weird to play because (4) and (6) sounds awkward during the gameplay. I would say it is much better to rework the whole pattern here.

[

Rain]

Gameplay

00:06:619 (3,4) - You might have to remove the HDash here to fit consistency with 00:02:870 (4,5)
00:12:712 (1) - I think NC here can be avoided by removing it, 1-combo ain't doing its job.
00:21:617 (4,5) - Add HDash here to fit consistency with 00:18:102 (1,2) - , or vice versa.
00:30:756 (3,4,5) - In my opinion the stream here can go less-slanted, since the next pattern, which is 00:30:990 (5,6,1) consists of a double-HDash pattern, hence reducing the stream slope here can help players to catch the HDash pattern more easily.
00:34:037 (2,3,4,1) - I think it is better to have HDash between (2,3) instead of (3,4), in my opinion emphasizing the first clap would be much better during gameplay, instead of the second clap.
00:37:786 (2,3,4,1) - ^
00:41:535 (2,3,4,1) - ^
00:53:018 (3,4,5,1) - Add HDash at (3,4) to emphasize the first clap and remove the HDash at (4,5), it will play much better in my opinion.
00:56:533 (2,3,4,5) - Similar to the above-mentioned, I would say adding HDash at 00:56:533 (2,3) instead of (3,4) would play much better.
00:58:642 (3,4) - You may add HDash here to emphasize the Finish at (4), optional though.
01:03:329 (1,2,3) - The slope of the triplets at the middle is too high, better lower it. You may try the following as a solution: (2) at x:236 and (3) at x:148. You might have to rework the later parts to fit the pattern here.
01:05:907 (1,2) - HDash here can be removed in my opinion, since (2) is not strong enough to get emphasized.
01:11:296 (2,3) - ^
01:17:858 (3,4,1) - Quite weird here to play, since (3,4) is not distant enough. I would say moving (4) much further at the right. You may try this as a solution: (4) at x:180 and (1) at x:360
01:22:779 (2,3) - The HDash here can be omitted as (3) is not strong enough to get emphasized.

Good luck!

-AFB

Manuxz

642 posts

Joined July 2012

Manuxz 2015-12-12T16:17:38+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
[ Manuxz's Platter]

Difficulty Settings
Lower the HP from 5.5 to 5, in order to fit the spread of having HP gradually increasing along the difficulties. Done

Gameplay
00:47:628 (3,1) - I feel like the HDash is unnecessary as it is not emphasizing Finish like you did before. I feel there is a different sound that has been worth I emphasize with a HDash, this difficulty has few jumps so I do not feel so bad
00:55:127 (3,1) - ^ ^
01:02:391 (3,4,5,6,1) - This part is easy to miss, since (3,4,5,6) are all nearly-straight sliders and players may easily miss the tail of each sliders. Hence I suggest changing the pattern here to make it easier. Change pattern :'(
01:38:948 (3,4,5,6,7) - It is really weird to play because (4) and (6) sounds awkward during the gameplay. I would say it is much better to rework the whole pattern here. Done :3
Good luck!

-AFB

Thanks for the mod AFB :3

Acutalización o3o

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2015-12-13T16:13:47+00:00

All fixed!

Thanks for the mod, alienflybot~

Update

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Last edited by QHideaki13 2015-12-13T19:53:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2015-12-13T19:26:27+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
Hello o/

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[ General]

Source
I think it is better to replace 'Gokusen' as 'ごくせん' as it is the original name of the source. Nice, Thanks :3

Tags
Then you can add 'Gokusen' as one of the tags. added

Background Image
Optional only, I think the original ones are much better because they are revelant. Maybe you can consider changing them to a revelant one? :^) when you said original, do you mean one from Gokusen?

Length
I suggest ending the difficulties at 01:40:823 as it is the place where sounds go silent. You may add inherited points at 01:40:706 and 01:40:823 to lower the volume, that it won't sound awkward. I saw that GDers didn't read this part before reply lool, I'll send a forum PM to Manuxz and Hideaki :3

[ Rain]

Gameplay OMG long mod incomming :3
00:06:619 (3,4) - You might have to remove the HDash here to fit consistency with 00:02:870 (4,5) x_x my bad, fixed~~ How I can't detect consistency at ctb? I always detect consistency stuff at taiko lool, rip shini u.u
00:12:712 (1) - I think NC here can be avoided by removing it, 1-combo ain't doing its job. Could be but considering my previous NCs: 00:08:962 - 00:10:837 - should be NC at 00:12:712 - for consistency *-*/ also after such note you have spin, I think is better to start spin with one fruit on the plate.
00:21:617 (4,5) - Add HDash here to fit consistency with 00:18:102 (1,2) - , or vice versa. Sounds Awkward with HDash at 00:21:617 (4,5) - furthermore I'm keeping consistency with 00:29:115 (4,5) -
00:30:756 (3,4,5) - In my opinion the stream here can go less-slanted, since the next pattern, which is 00:30:990 (5,6,1) consists of a double-HDash pattern, hence reducing the stream slope here can help players to catch the HDash pattern more easily. reduced -0.10x between each note of 00:30:756 (3,4,5) -
00:34:037 (2,3,4,1) - I think it is better to have HDash between (2,3) instead of (3,4), in my opinion emphasizing the first clap would be much better during gameplay, instead of the second clap. Are you sure? because I found it awkward, In my opinion is better to emphasize the second clap because if you add an Hdash between (2,3), (4) becomes worthless
00:37:786 (2,3,4,1) - ^ ^
00:41:535 (2,3,4,1) - ^ ^
00:53:018 (3,4,5,1) - Add HDash at (3,4) to emphasize the first clap and remove the HDash at (4,5), it will play much better in my opinion. ^
00:56:533 (2,3,4,5) - Similar to the above-mentioned, I would say adding HDash at 00:56:533 (2,3) instead of (3,4) would play much better. ^
00:58:642 (3,4) - You may add HDash here to emphasize the Finish at (4), optional though. I tried to add HDash here but is not at all necessary because there isn't a strong sound like 00:57:705 - or 00:59:579 -
01:03:329 (1,2,3) - The slope of the triplets at the middle is too high, better lower it. You may try the following as a solution: (2) at x:236 and (3) at x:148. You might have to rework the later parts to fit the pattern here. totally agree
01:05:907 (1,2) - HDash here can be removed in my opinion, since (2) is not strong enough to get emphasized. yeah, that's true, changed into another pattern
01:11:296 (2,3) - ^ No, I'm not agree, I decided to add HDaashes because is the best part of the map, "kiai"
01:17:858 (3,4,1) - Quite weird here to play, since (3,4) is not distant enough. I would say moving (4) much further at the right. You may try this as a solution: (4) at x:180 and (1) at x:360 wow niceee *-*/
01:22:779 (2,3) - The HDash here can be omitted as (3) is not strong enough to get emphasized. yeah, agree

Good luck!

-AFB

Thanks for mod

GDs updated

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-01-21T12:59:27+00:00

Dying isn't allowed ):

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Q-H's Salad

01:10:593 (5,6) - Feels awkward for there not to be a jump here, considering this sound is really prominent. You emphasized with a finish hitsound, and also mapped jumps for similar sounds at 01:02:626 (2,3) - 01:06:844 (3,4) so for consistency you should include one here as well
01:39:886 (3,4) - Drumroll sounds are increasing in intensity here, yet the distance between these two is much smaller than 01:39:417 (2,3) - leaving this last sound pair really underemphasized. Some more dashes could optionally be used here as well, so I'd like to suggest moving (3) to x-32 and (4) to x-272

Manuxz's Platter

00:34:974 (6,1) - I'd stick to a normal dash here, the music is quite calm compared to the choruses and a hyper feels a bit excessive to me
00:38:489 (6,1) - 00:42:473 (5,1) - ^
01:25:591 (5,1) - Hyper here is really strong and the slider is angled, making it really easy to droplet miss here. Consider weakening the hyper and/or making the slider (1) more horizontal to make this more comfortable to play

Rain

00:30:990 (5,6,1) - Leading into a calm section, this double hyper feels kind of awkward to play for me, especially considering 00:31:224 (6) is actually a really weak beat. If you move (6) to x-352, then Ctrl+H (1) and move to x-40, this fits the song better and plays much more smoothly
00:35:677 (3,4,5) - Hyper to (3) is justified due to the stronger vocal note here, but hypers to (4,5) aren't really necessary, and you didn't use a pattern like this in the following measures which use similar vocal patterns. Moving (4) to x-280 feels more fitting imo
01:02:157 - Why skip such a prominent vocal sound? The gap feels awkward since you're building up into the kiai, so you should be building intensity

All else looking good, call me back o/

Deif

Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon

3,564 posts

Joined April 2010

Deif 2016-01-21T14:29:28+00:00

Hi! As you requested the timing police is here! Your offset is currently about 10-15ms off, which is quite a bunch.

Just try out with a single uninherited 128 BPM section with an offset 1451. It sounds more accurate that way! Oh, and make sure you resnap properly all objects and lines of your mapset.

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2016-01-21T17:11:47+00:00

All fixed! (Also made some small changes on the other part)

Thanks for the mod, JBHyperion~

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Naruto Shippuden Opening  [MAD].mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 61923
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Niji
TitleUnicode:虹
Artist:Aqua Timez
ArtistUnicode:Aqua Timez
Creator:-Sh1n1-
Version:Q-H's Salad
Source:ごくせん
Tags:うたい 去り し 花 Utai Sarishi Hana Gokusen drama OP opening QHideaki13 Manuxz
BeatmapID:725106
BeatmapSetID:302736

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.3
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"gokusen.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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80,192,57701,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2016-01-22T22:31:37+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Dying isn't allowed ): Thx :'(

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Rain
00:30:990 (5,6,1) - Leading into a calm section, this double hyper feels kind of awkward to play for me, especially considering 00:31:224 (6) is actually a really weak beat. If you move (6) to x-352, then Ctrl+H (1) and move to x-40, this fits the song better and plays much more smoothly Omg, nice suggestion, at first time I was thinking on reject that because it will be ruin the spread with Platter and it was s suggestion of Sey:

Sey wrote:
00:30:990 (10,11) - This doesn't play smooth due to the following HDash. Going from a relatively high Dash to a HDash feels awkward, so I suggest to go double HDash at this point by moving 00:31:224 (11) - to x424. This will also be a great prelude for the following stanza.

but you are right, 00:31:224 (6) - is too low as you said, in aditional I move 00:31:459 (1) - to x:56 because keep the HDash and I can make it more slant.00:35:677 (3,4,5) - Hyper to (3) is justified due to the stronger vocal note here, but hypers to (4,5) aren't really necessary, and you didn't use a pattern like this in the following measures which use similar vocal patterns. Moving (4) to x-280 feels more fitting imo Yeah, agree, fixed~~01:02:157 - Why skip such a prominent vocal sound? The gap feels awkward since you're building up into the kiai, so you should be building intensity because I'm following instrumental here, also consistency with platter, furthermore a little rest might sounds nicer to enphasize kiaiAll else looking good, call me back o/Yay~~ Thanks JBHyperion-senpai :3

Deif wrote:
Hi! As you requested the timing police is here! Your offset is currently about 10-15ms off, which is quite a bunch.

Just try out with a single uninherited 128 BPM section with an offset 1451. It sounds more accurate that way! Oh, and make sure you resnap properly all objects and lines of your mapset.

Thank you very much Deif, I was waiting for it long time ago :3

Waiting for Manuxz: manuxz no eh tocado el BPM ni el offset en tu diff porque no quiero causar problemas a la hora del mod, si puedes agregar luego los cambios del BPM y offset en tu diff me seria de ayuda, pero si no tienes tiempo solo aplica los cambios que JBHyperion te aconseja y mandame tu diff, yo ya de ahi arreglo el timing, Gracias.

Rain and Salad are ready

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2016-01-23T04:58:13+00:00

Literally, there isn't a PC around Manuxz loool

JBHyperion wrote:
Dying isn't allowed ):

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Manuxz's Platter
00:34:974 (6,1) - I'd stick to a normal dash here, the music is quite calm compared to the choruses and a hyper feels a bit excessive to me well at this part I feel that Manuxz was following the high piano pitch as I did on my diff, if I remove the jump this part will be like a salad and the spread will be wrong, I'm not sure if I can keep this jumps? if you decide that is too important I'll remove but reconsider please
00:38:489 (6,1) - 00:42:473 (5,1) - ^ ^
01:25:591 (5,1) - Hyper here is really strong and the slider is angled, making it really easy to droplet miss here. Consider weakening the hyper and/or making the slider (1) more horizontal to make this more comfortable to play. Reduced distance and changed the slider more horizontal keeping the spacings of Manuxz

hope it's fine now

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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JBHyperion 2016-01-24T23:06:38+00:00

Changed the combo colours to fit better with the new BG, resnapped some green lines and fixed a couple of accidental pixel jumps.

Chat log

21:03 -Sh1n1-: :O
21:04 -Sh1n1-: hi hi ~~
21:04 JBHyperion: yo o/
21:04 *-Sh1n1- is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/678481 Aqua Timez - Niji]
21:04 -Sh1n1-: updates are ready
21:04 -Sh1n1-: I want to ask you about manuxz diff
21:05 -Sh1n1-: because his PC died :c
21:05 JBHyperion: oh I was meaning to ask you if that was updated yet
21:05 -Sh1n1-: and he give me his permission to applied your mod
21:05 JBHyperion: cool
21:05 JBHyperion: I'll recheck after I afinish this hitsounding
21:05 -Sh1n1-: Oki
22:36 *JBHyperion is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/725106 Aqua Timez - Niji [Q-H's Salad]]
22:37 JBHyperion: why does this diff have an extra gree combo colour?
22:37 JBHyperion: (and why did I not notice it before >.<)
22:37 JBHyperion: green*
22:37 -Sh1n1-: WTF?
22:37 -Sh1n1-: I'll kill QH
22:37 -Sh1n1-: xDD
22:37 JBHyperion: lmao
22:37 JBHyperion: it's fine
22:37 -Sh1n1-: let's check it faster
22:37 JBHyperion: you can fix that right now
22:40 JBHyperion: the yellow colour doesn't really fit that well either now I think about it
22:40 JBHyperion: a pale red or a pale pink might be cool
22:41 -Sh1n1-: yeah you aare right, it's wrong because I change BG lots of times
22:41 -Sh1n1-: xDDD
22:41 JBHyperion: (:
22:43 *JBHyperion is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/725105 Aqua Timez - Niji [Manuxz's Platter]]
22:43 JBHyperion: 01:12:466 (5,1) - I don't think this is suppposed to be a pixel jump lol
22:44 JBHyperion: move head to x-44, small change but makes it a hyper
22:44 JBHyperion: which I think was the plan
22:45 -Sh1n1-: only the head?
22:45 -Sh1n1-: or all slider
22:46 JBHyperion: just the head
22:49 -Sh1n1-: I didn't notice about that
22:49 -Sh1n1-: fixed
22:49 -Sh1n1-: thanks
22:49 -Sh1n1-: upload?
22:50 -Sh1n1-: what do you think about the new combo colours?
22:50 JBHyperion: hold on
22:50 *JBHyperion is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/678481 Aqua Timez - Niji [Rain]]
22:50 JBHyperion: 01:33:091 (7,1) - this is a pixel jump as well ;w;
22:51 JBHyperion: 01:33:326 (1) - to x-192 please
22:51 -Sh1n1-: wtf
22:51 -Sh1n1-: I did with HDash here
22:52 -Sh1n1-: change of BPM maybe idk
22:52 JBHyperion: hm
22:52 JBHyperion: possibly
22:52 JBHyperion: oh pah I just founf a couple more tiny things on Salad
22:53 JBHyperion: there are some unsnapped green lines messing with the hitsounds
22:53 -Sh1n1-: wtf
22:53 JBHyperion: 00:16:451 - 00:31:451 - 00:46:451 -
22:53 JBHyperion: snap to the previous downbeat
22:54 -Sh1n1-: oki
22:55 JBHyperion: that should be all
22:55 -Sh1n1-: *-*/
22:57 -Sh1n1-: combo colours are good?
22:57 JBHyperion: lemme redownload
22:58 JBHyperion: yeah they look good
23:00 -Sh1n1-: ok
23:00 -Sh1n1-: all updated now

All looking fine to me so here ya go, good luck guys!

Bubbled~

-Sh1n1-

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-Sh1n1- 2016-01-24T23:08:11+00:00

Omg

I'm really happy, thank you JBHyperion <3

Boltico

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Boltico 2016-01-24T23:16:58+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:
Omg I'm really happy, thank you JBHyperion <3

Felicidades

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2016-01-24T23:31:38+00:00

*-*/ Thanks mate, now:

Razor Sharp wrote:
Where is afb when we need him?

Calling afb...

MBomb

MBomb 2016-01-25T19:00:50+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:
*-*/ Thanks mate, now:

Razor Sharp wrote:
Where is afb when we need him?
Calling afb...

Can I snipe him

Sey

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Sey 2016-01-25T20:27:28+00:00

Popping the bubble mainly because I first wanna see the hitsound inconsistencies fixed on the Salad difficulty as described below. I am not against different hitsounding but the main problem is that the Salad currently lacks of hitsounds. You basically used the same hitsounding as in the other difficulties but skipped important beats which however are hitsounded on the other difficulties, but not here.

[Salad]

I want you to go through your hitsounds again. Please see how the other 2 mappers hitsounded in compare of your own difficulty. Currently, this Salad lacks mainly of Finish and Whistle hitsounds. See for yourself if you can copy the same hitsounds from the other difficulties to your own difficulty. For reference please use the hitsound bookmarks from the Rain difficulty:

SPOILER

Whistles: Bookmarks: 1451,2388,3326,4263,5201,6138,7076,8013,8951,9419,9888,10357,10826,11294,11763,12232,12701,17388,18325,19263,21138,22075,23013,24888,26763,28638,30513,32388,33326,34263,36138,37076,38013,39888,40826,41763,43637,44576,45513,47622,48326,49263,52076,53013,54888,55826,56763,58638,60513,64263,66138,68013,68950,69888,71763,73638,74576,76216,79263,83013,83950,84888,86763,88638,90747,91451,94263,95201,96138 
Finishs: Bookmarks: 16451,20201,23951,27701,31451,35200,38950,42700,46451,50201,53951,57701,58872,59576,60982,63326,65201,70826,72701,78326,80201,82076,85826,87701,89576,93326,97075,98013 Claps: Bookmarks: 19497,19731,23247,23482,26997,27232,30747,30982,34497,34732,38247,38482,41997,42232,45747,45981,53247,53482,56997,57232,60747,66372,66607,70122,70357,73872,74106,81372,81607,85122,85357,88872,89107

00:07:779 (3,1) - Is this supposed to be a dash? Because currently it can be caught without dashing and a small dash would fit this really well due to the beginning drum beats.
00:19:263 (2,3,4) - , 00:23:247 (5,6,7) - Both should either be a triplet or triangle pattern, please decide yourself.
00:52:544 (1,2,3) - Due to the elongated vocals at this point, would it not be better to have this a slider with reverse arrow? Currently the whole pattern here feels relatively overcomplex for a Salad.
01:26:529 (2) - Should this not be more consistent with 01:33:326 (5,1) - ? I suggest to not map on 1/2 rhythm here because it seems relatively complicated for a Salad. I hope you can find a way to simplify this.

[Platter]

01:06:607 (4,1) - I'd appreciate if you move (1) a little more to the right, you can keep the HDash but this one is very close to the screen wall. Something similar applies to 01:21:372 (3,1) - . Otherwise the diff is ready.

[Rain]

00:23:365 (2) - Should be left empty, this tick gives not much of a beat tbh. It is far stronger here: 00:30:747 (3,4,5) - , but there is nothing really strong here to find.
01:06:490 (3) - Is it necessary to map this? The beat is not that outstanding.
01:18:326 (1,2,3) - This one should be mapped the same way as you did at 01:22:076 (3,1) - , this follows the vocals much much better. The current timeline feels a little off.
01:26:294 (3,4) - We have a screen wall hyper here as well, please avoid that. There is a guideline currently in discussion which says to at least keep x16 distance away from the screen. So please move (4) more to the right. Something similar applies to 01:06:607 (4,5) - .
01:29:576 (1,2,3,4,5) - Really weird timeline, I suggest to keep it more consistent. Do not map 01:29:810 - at all, there is barely any beat here, instead a slider can be used, have an example:
SPOILER
01:32:271 (3) - There is no beat here, erase this one!
01:36:372 (3,4) - This beat is not strong enough for a Hyper at all. Nothing here that really can be emphasized that much since it's just the standard rhythm of the song.

Once you fixed my mod and think the hitsounding has been improved, feel free to call me back over Forum PM.

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

-Sh1n1- 2016-01-26T01:26:27+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Can I snipe him

pls xDDD

Sey wrote:
Popping the bubble mainly because I first wanna see the hitsound inconsistencies fixed on the Salad difficulty as described below. I am not against different hitsounding but the main problem is that the Salad currently lacks of hitsounds. You basically used the same hitsounding as in the other difficulties but skipped important beats which however are hitsounded on the other difficulties, but not here. Well, I'm agree

[Platter]
01:06:607 (4,1) - I'd appreciate if you move (1) a little more to the right, you can keep the HDash but this one is very close to the screen wall. Something similar applies to 01:21:372 (3,1) - . Otherwise the diff is ready. fixed~~
[Rain]
00:23:365 (2) - Should be left empty, this tick gives not much of a beat tbh. It is far stronger here: 00:30:747 (3,4,5) - , but there is nothing really strong here to find. I'm surprised because when I saw your mod at first time I imagine 00:16:451 (1,2,3) - but at 00:23:013 (1,2,3) - I feel that is really necessary to enphasize the high pitch on 00:23:482 - I saw lots of maps with this kind of pattern, that's why I decide to use it, one example could be Kon Natsumi - Niji no Kakera check m1ng's Rain at 00:05:650 (5,6) - and take a look into 00:07:695 (5,1) - is something similar as you did in your mod. Keep
01:06:490 (3) - Is it necessary to map this? The beat is not that outstanding. I decided to delete this one not because there isn't a clear sound, I decided to remove because I don't like the rhythm of my current pattern since the beginning, feels a bit weird.
01:18:326 (1,2,3) - This one should be mapped the same way as you did at 01:22:076 (3,1) - , this follows the vocals much much better. The current timeline feels a little off. yes, you are right, fixed
01:26:294 (3,4) - We have a screen wall hyper here as well, please avoid that. There is a guideline currently in discussion which says to at least keep x16 distance away from the screen. So please move (4) more to the right. Something similar applies to 01:06:607 (4,5) - . I fixed 01:26:294 (3,4) - but I can't fix 01:06:607 (4,5) - because that song have low BPM and HyperDash is around 3.10x, it means, if I want an Hyperdash, I need more than a half of the screen, and a normal distance between notes is around 1.60 or 1.70, 01:05:904 (1,2,3,4) - is the best example. I read the thread about screen wall hyper and as you said "is a guideline currently in discussion" it means that is not a rule yet, I did my best trying to avoid it, hope you understand me please, I force a Rain with this song, yeah, but I hate ctb sets without rains
01:29:576 (1,2,3,4,5) - Really weird timeline weird?, I suggest to keep it more consistent. Do not map 01:29:810 - at all, there is barely any beat here, instead a slider can be used, have an example: Ok, fixed, same as your example
SPOILER
01:32:271 (3) - There is no beat here, erase this one! Can you listen this part at 50% of velocity please? there is a beat, also follow voice better. Keep
01:36:372 (3,4) - This beat is not strong enough for a Hyper at all. Nothing here that really can be emphasized that much since it's just the standard rhythm of the song. no more hyperdash here, fixed
Once you fixed my mod and think the hitsounding has been improved, feel free to call me back over Forum PM.

~~Hideaki I can fix the hitsound if you want~~

Last edited by -Sh1n1- 2016-01-26T04:49:59+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

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Q-H's Salad

Manuxz's Platter

Rain

QHideaki13 wrote:

SYAHME wrote:

General

Rain

Sey wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Equim wrote:

SYAHME wrote:

Manuxz's Platter

Sey wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Manuxz wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

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[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

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alienflybot wrote:

alienflybot wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Sey wrote:

Deif wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Razor Sharp wrote:

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Razor Sharp wrote:

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Sey wrote:

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