LeaF - Doppelganger [Taiko] · forum

MMzz

Elite Mapper

Joined June 2009

MMzz 2016-01-01T21:35:36+00:00

[Fatal Oni]
00:26:076 (194) - Maybe delete this? The melody pauses for a moment and you can reflect that well by just removing this. (If you do change 00:26:505 (145) - to a kat for that nice flow)

[Oni]
00:19:005 (101,102,103,104) - ddk k? Seems a little more fitting. Having the kat on 104 is the important part, imo.
00:26:290 (144) - Same thing from Fatal Oni applies at this time stamp too. (delete note, make following kat for rhythm.)
01:21:862 (86,87,88,89,90,91) - Not sure how I feel about this. I would just make it dddddk. This rhythm kinda comes out of nowhere in the song, hard to anticipate, so it should be a little more simple because the player will obviously get caught off-guard.
01:36:790 (96,97,98,99) - I feel the same about this one too because it is attached to notes if a different rhythm at the end. Just dddd works here.
02:02:933 (54) - And same goes for this, just change this note a d, imo.

[Muzukashii]
You could lower the OD. 4.5 or something.
01:58:648 - add a don here? Just to keep the rhythm going. This huge gap is kinda awkward.
02:00:362 - ^ Honestly the overall rhythm in this section could change to be more like 00:19:648. It is the same melody more or less with the same pace. No reason to have it this different.
02:16:005 (56) - Move this note to 02:15:576 and make it a don. Then take 02:17:719 (63) - And move it back to 02:17:290. Ending the string of notes on these beats fits much better with the rise in the music. Additionally, don notes should be added here 02:18:576 and here 02:19:433. So the player really gets the impact of the rise. Also don't forget to take the finishers off the notes you are moving.

[Futsuu]
00:16:005 (26) - This would be much better at 00:16:219. Takes away that awkward gap leading into the 3/4 rhythm. (Also its the downbeat so it works better regardless)

Honestly, I would I like to see a kantan so the futsuu can be more interactive. It just feels lacking.

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-01-01T22:05:17+00:00

MMzz wrote:
[Muzukashii]
You could lower the OD. 4.5 or something. k
02:00:362 - Honestly the overall rhythm in this section could change to be more like 00:19:648. It is the same melody more or less with the same pace. No reason to have it this different. adapted more to that part
02:16:005 (56) - Move this note to 02:15:576 and make it a don. Then take 02:17:719 (63) - And move it back to 02:17:290. Ending the string of notes on these beats fits much better with the rise in the music. Additionally, don notes should be added here 02:18:576 and here 02:19:433. So the player really gets the impact of the rise. Also don't forget to take the finishers off the notes you are moving. applied mostly like suggested, did not add a note 02:19:433 - here though because I think it would be too much

[Futsuu]
00:16:005 (26) - This would be much better at 00:16:219. Takes away that awkward gap leading into the 3/4 rhythm. (Also its the downbeat so it works better regardless) added instead

Honestly, I would I like to see a kantan so the futsuu can be more interactive. It just feels lacking. wouldn't the Kantan be lacking then c:

Thanks!

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Loctav

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Loctav 2016-01-01T22:19:41+00:00

MMzz wrote:
[Fatal Oni]
00:26:076 (194) - Maybe delete this? The melody pauses for a moment and you can reflect that well by just removing this. (If you do change 00:26:505 (145) - to a kat for that nice flow) huh what. the melody happily keeps going on that downbeat.

[Oni]
00:19:005 (101,102,103,104) - ddk k? Seems a little more fitting. Having the kat on 104 is the important part, imo. ok
00:26:290 (144) - Same thing from Fatal Oni applies at this time stamp too. (delete note, make following kat for rhythm.) still disagreeing, ugh.
01:21:862 (86,87,88,89,90,91) - Not sure how I feel about this. I would just make it dddddk. This rhythm kinda comes out of nowhere in the song, hard to anticipate, so it should be a little more simple because the player will obviously get caught off-guard. I think actually, that kddddk plays better than dddddk. How abouit that?
01:36:790 (96,97,98,99) - I feel the same about this one too because it is attached to notes if a different rhythm at the end. Just dddd works here. I nuked the 1/3 and replaced it with an 1/2 pattern insteasd, as I believed that dddd doesnt work but agree that the notes are too close to the 1/2
02:02:933 (54) - And same goes for this, just change this note a d, imo. in contrary to all other 1/3, where I can see how they can cause issues, I feel like this one is perfectly comfortable to play. Could be my ddkk setup or whatever, but while I stumbled on the other patterns you mentioned, too, I find this one is seperated enough and easy to play.

Other things I edited were removing a note at 01:15:148 - and making 01:09:362 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - dkkdkkd (both Oni)

MMzz

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MMzz 2016-01-01T22:34:35+00:00

Brace yourselves!

DakeDekaane

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DakeDekaane 2016-01-02T05:13:13+00:00

Checking the rest of the difficulties as I said.

[

Futsuu]

00:05:933 (6) - This note is particularly odd, given you're mapping the main sounds here, try to remove it? Same for the next similar note.
00:10:433 - 00:10:648 - These beats feels a bit empty, and I think adding more big kats here would be a nice idea.
00:19:219 (1) - The note here feels weird while playing, as it's the sound it is mapped to isn't that representative.
00:33:576 - This beat is begging for a note to complement better the whole rhythm here.
00:39:148 (5) - Doesn't this note make more sense being in 00:38:826 -
00:43:862 - A big don here please
00:48:362 (27) - A break here could be fitting, to give a bit more emphasis to the "pauses" music and map have for 00:48:790 (28,29) - . 00:50:076 (30) - may be removed too, for the same purposes.
00:51:790 (1) - Shouldn't this spinner begin in 00:51:576 - ?
00:59:290 (11,12) - These notes doesn't make a good play here, considering you have the same (01:00:790 (15,16,17) - ), for a greater sound. Remove these notes.
01:04:648 - Add a note here??
01:09:148 (33) - Shouldn't this note be in 01:09:362 - ? You did it in 01:13:648 (41) - .
02:21:148 - A note here would make a nice play for a greater end.

[

Muzukashii]

00:22:862 (13,14) - These notes are a bit weird as it's the only 1/2 pattern present for this section, while similar rhythms are mapped simpler, remove them to keep this 1/1 structure for this calm section.
00:31:326 - I'd suggest to add a note here, this 3/2 is a bit awkward due skipping a strong beat.00:43:862 -
00:51:790 (1) - Same as ~~Kantan~~ Futsuu.
00:54:148 (1) - You could move this note 1/2 beat backward, it'd make a better play, like you did for 00:43:755 (29) - .
01:00:469 - Add a note here, it'd follow the small build-up in the song.
01:11:290 - I wouldn't suggest to force breaks like this.
01:15:255 - A note is missing here
01:15:898 - And here too, the sounds are almost unskippable.
01:18:683 - Maybe add a note here like in previous pattern? Odd being the only one without 1/2 in this section.
01:22:862 (27) - Given you're following the kind of chaotic sound here, I'd suggest to remove this note to keep it clean and a nice break to separate it from the next section.
02:04:005 (7) - ^

[

Oni]

00:07:326 (28) - Probably remove this note, the music follows the same pattern as previous and it's calmer, yet you have a note here, but not in 00:05:612 - .
02:03:290 - 02:03:505 - 02:03:719 - You should add the corresponding notes here, to follow up the pattern in 02:02:862 (53,54,55,56,57) -
02:17:933 - 02:19:648 - Music becomes more chaotic, yet you keep the same patterns

[

Fatal Oni]

02:21:790 (275) - Ninja note pls.

I think that's all.

Edit: You didn't see anything, happy new year!