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SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]:mizuki - &Z (TV Size) [CatchTheBeat]

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Kurokami
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Kurokami

Lewd Grill wrote:

Touching on editor things, playability is not something I want to look into because I don't play anymore.

[General]
  1. You have no video for this TV Size, consider finding one to fit with it. I don't want to include video.
Tried to fix all for Rain. /o/
StickyPicky
509 posts
Joined October 2012
StickyPicky

Lewd Grill wrote:

[NTR8's Salad]
  1. Your beats at points such as 00:06:787 - feel really off, you don't fill them and fill on the white tick afterwards. Other examples include: 00:10:015 (2) - 00:13:053 (2) - These sound really awkward as you seem to be using the hitsounds to smother then rather than working with them. A 1/1 slider from the starting red tick to the next red tick on these beats sounds much better and I would strongly suggest using them.
  2. 00:22:167 (2) - Consider swapping this for a 1/2 repeater? It fits much better and flows nicely with the pace you have going.
  3. 00:27:483 (1,2) - Swap this for two 1/2 sliders? It fits really really well rather than smothering the song with longer sliders.
  4. 00:34:129 (2) - Why do you start on the red tick here? Replacing this with a circle on the slider end sounds much better rather than ending on what should be a start.
  5. 01:03:939 (3) - Consider a slider here? the wait between notes is killer here as you go into the kiai with a big jump but ruin the flow by forcing the player to wait for the next note rather than working with the pace change to create a more interactive beatmap.
thanks ~ all fixed
osu file format v14

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Countdown: 0
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[Editor]
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Title:&Z (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:&Z (TV Size)
Artist:SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]:mizuki
ArtistUnicode:SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]:mizuki
Creator:Kurokami
Version:NTR8's Salad
Source:Aldnoah.Zero
Tags:澤野弘之 アルドノア・ゼロ Sony Olympus Knights opening short version sawano hiroyuki nzk mizuki alienflybot Depths Xinely newtoniorock newtoniorock8
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BeatmapSetID:297740

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Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Kurokami
Updated. Not sure if alienflybot will check his or not but I won't touch it for now. Let's get more mod. /o/
autofanboy
Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion
1,578 posts
Joined January 2011
autofanboy
My diff is pretty bad comparing to my recent mapping styles, perhaps I will remap the diff later if possible.
It is fine to delete my diff first, and wait for my diff while receiving mods.

In this way, in case I am not able to finish mapping my diff, you can still rank the mapset with a suitable spread.
StickyPicky
509 posts
Joined October 2012
StickyPicky
reviveeeeee~
WildOne94
581 posts
Joined October 2013
WildOne94
Hey there o/
Part of a m4m for OKAY.

General
On Salad, Platter and Rain why is there a finish hitsound on a quiet part at 00:24:445 - ? It's also really loud.

Depths' Cup
Imo I thought this diff was very slow even for a cup due to how close the notes together were and especially some sliders that are vertical.

00:05:078 (3) - I felt like this reverse slider needs just a little more slant to the left so I would have something like this.


00:14:192 (1) - This is really weird why this reverse slider misses a big point in the intro at 00:15:331 -. You should try changing the pattern here so you can place a note on that time as I said. Here is an idea. (This slider was also slopped quite high vertically imo)


00:19:319 - I would place a note here to follow the drums or create a small reverse slider like you did at 00:22:167 (2) -

00:19:509 (4) - Really no movement at all (You have a few of these). I would slant to the right more for nice movement.

00:20:648 (5,1) - In play these are really close together considering the NC. I would move (1) left a bit to x:80.

00:22:926 (1,2,3) - ^ (and a lot here onwards)

00:52:167 (1) - Again you miss a key big sound in the song at 00:52:547 - Please reconsider this pattern and try alternatives.

00:57:483 (1) - A very powerful vocal you missed out in the middle of this slider. Try change this slider into something like this.


00:56:344 (5) - Sorry to backtrack but same here ^

00:59:002 (3) - ^

01:03:180 (1,2) - Maaaan for the kiai these seemed sooo close together. Please make the distance a bit bigger for the kiai.

01:09:635 (3) - Why would you miss the sound in the middle again D: ? It's so noticeable.

01:11:154 (5) - ^ Vocals.

01:15:711 (3) - ^ ....

01:18:749 (1) - ^

01:25:205 (3) - A finish here but no new NC.

01:27:483 (6,1) - Perhaps make distance bigger here for finale.

NTR8's Salad
00:05:078 (5,6,1) - I feel as the jump should be a big one between (6) and (1) but i didn't feel that. I would try moving them around like this so it makes a nice dash between the 2.
http://puu.sh/rulw6/43be54e8cd.jpg

00:08:116 (6,1) - Maybe a little bigger jump here too because of the finish hitsound and just the general feel with the song?

00:14:572 (5,1) - ^ highly suggest this one. Because I can walk it when there is a finish on this.

00:39:255 (1) - Imo this should really be split up into circle note and having the first note jump into the 2nd note since there is a new verse in the song.

00:41:914 (6,1) - Quite a big jump for how quiet this section is. Suggest reducing ?

00:55:585 (2,3) - Almost had to double dash here and I think beginners to salads would be doing just that which is not really recommended. So suggest moving (3) a bit closer left to (2)

01:03:559 (2,3) - It's funny how in the quiet section there was a bigger jump than this (which I suggested changing) and yet this one is kind of small meaning though it's the start of the kiai. I would say move 01:03:180 (1,2) - to the left to about x:256 (also ain't (3) meant to be NC'ed ?).

01:09:255 (4,1) - ^ since a loud finish is on the note (1) and I walked the distance.

01:13:053 (4) - If I were you I would CTRL + G this and move to x:368 as it was kind of a hard anti-flow to handle for beginners.

01:14:952 (1,2) - Distance imo too short again but only a little more space should be fine.

Platter
00:04:509 (1,2) - Wasn't quite sure if I should have dashed or walked this distance as it's one of them notes rarely found which you don't know which to do XD. I thought since there was a lot of dashing near the start that this should be walk-able so perhaps move (2) to something like x:160 which seems nice imo.

00:06:977 (3,1) - Was quite a hard jump here so I would reduce distance a little. Try move 00:06:977 (3) - left just a tad like at x:32.

00:10:015 (3,1,2) - 3 hypers all close together is a bit much for a platter imo. Try removing one of these. (I recommend (2)'s hyper).

00:11:154 (2,3,4,1,2) - Thought it got a little repetitive with the same notes here and thought it should be changed up at the NC at 00:12:293 (1,2) -. Maybe a pattern like this ?


00:12:293 (1) - Not too highly suggested but this was a bit of a stand still. I can see how it fits in a way but it would be nice to make the player keep on moving.

00:15:142 (5,1) - Felt like this should be a hyper. Try move (1) to x:48.

00:16:091 (3,4,5,6) - Bit weird how there is a constant dash here on a quiet section. Suggest making this a walk-able section instead or one dash at least instead of holding the dash button down.

00:22:167 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - 2 hypers in a quiet section ? I would say remove the 2nd one to calm things a little more.

00:39:255 (4,1) - Recommend making (4) a slider so you can hyper to (1) as it can also fit with the vocal hold in the song.

00:51:028 (4,5,6) - I think the 2 hypers again is a bit much for a quiet section here. Try just keep 00:51:407 (6) -'s hyper.

01:03:559 (2,1) - Hmmm I thought it was quite hard to the jump whilst trying to maintain the droplets here. I would suggest a little change like maybe slanting (1) more up or down or curving. Maybe even face it in a different direction. (Edit: I think just curving since it is quite vertical already)

01:06:787 (4,1) - ^

01:08:496 (1,2,3,4) - Thought the distances here was a little hard, specially (3) and (4)'s distance. Maybe reduce a bit here ? Also could potentially make (4) into a slider like suggested earlier to hyper to the next note.

01:13:623 (2,3,1) - I do like these but I thought that the 3rd one was where it started the then get repetitive. Maybe Ctrl + G the last one ?

01:15:901 (7,8,1) - Thought a hyper should be here but if too much then could remove (8) to make it into an easier hyper.

01:21:407 (3,4) - I don't think this hyper jump is that necessary as it does not hype much. It should really be between 01:21:787 (4,1) - if you do the slider suggestion I had before again.

01:28:053 (5) - I would suggest a timing point at the end of this slider to reduce volume as it is fairly loud and a weirdly noticeable ending hitsound

Rain
00:09:445 (2,3) - I thought these were pretty close together. Perhaps move (3) right a little to say x:320.

00:16:850 (1,2,3) - Weirdly spaced out between here. Would say move (2) to x:288 and (3) to x:400. (and then move 00:17:610 (4) - left a bit to keep hyper.

00:18:369 (1,2) - A little bit big imo. try reduce ?

00:20:648 (3,4) - ^

00:22:547 (4,5) - I think (5) is a little bit of a flow stopper since you need to stop in order to hyper jump. Would say make larger distance and move 00:22:926 (1) - Over right more so the hyper remains.

00:29:762 (3,4,5) - These slants feel a bit of a flow stopper too. I suggest slanting these more.

00:31:281 (3,4) - Distance here as before.

00:39:255 (3,1) - This might be just me but I personally found this reverse direction catch quite hard. Perhaps Ctrl + G although not too high of a suggestion.

00:51:407 (6,1,2) - Another little suggestion but I thought that (1) and (2) should be a different pattern or at least a different slant in sliders to make the new verse more interesting.

00:57:673 (4,1) - Comparing this to the suggestion I said at 00:39:255 (3,1) - I found this REALLY hard to catch due to the big jump. Suggest highly a Ctrl + G on (1) and moving it to something like x:192.

01:06:407 (3,4,5) - I missed several times here due to how far away (4) was from (5). Suggest reducing whilst maintaining the hypers.

01:10:015 (1) - The slant for this one would be far more better if the tail was on x:496 y:160.

01:14:952 (2,3) - This is almost a hyper jump. try move 01:15:331 (3) - to x:128 and 01:15:616 (4) - to x:272.

01:15:996 (4,1) - I would see this hyper jump more in an overdose because of the distance. If it was reduce slightly I think it would be more suited to a rain then but atm it seems a bit big of a gap and I kept over jumping (1).

01:23:496 (4,1) - I thought just a tad big distance. Perhaps reduce just a tiny bit ?

Really like this rain <3

Xinely's Overdose
Sorry if short mod or not great suggestions but I am not the best with some overdoses.

00:05:458 (3,4,5) - A bit weirdly spaced out here. It's like the flow came down to such a slow down to grab these notes. I would suggest moving these note spaces out a bit more so the player can move constantly (which should be the case for overdoses). I know you might have done this to curve the notes to more to tell the players they need to jump left but it just seems too slow atm. Even just a tiny change would help.

00:24:445 (1) - If I were you I would bend this slider more to the left as it felt too vertical for me which leads to flow stopping.

00:26:724 (3,4,5,6) - I would also space these out too as it's kind of similar to my last suggestion. It just needs to be spaced out so players can keep moving without having to stop for this type of diff.

00:29:002 (1) - Slant more to the right for more glide and movement for overdose ?

00:34:698 (4,1) - This is SOOOOOO close to a hyper ;w;. Moving 00:34:698 (4) - to x:344 will make the hyper.

00:38:876 (3,4) - I thought these could be hyper jumped too because of the powerful vocals that come up.

00:42:293 (3,1) - This really does not need to be a hyper because it's so weak. try move (3) to x:116.

00:46:281 (2,3) - Almost a hyper jump too. (2) just needs to be nudged a little to x:164 to hyper because it's a really hard jump otherwise ;w;.

00:49:319 (2,3) - ^ Hows about 00:49:319 (2) - x:132 ?

00:50:838 (2,3) - ^ Move 00:51:028 (3) - to x:384 ?

00:54:825 (1,2) - ^ (2) to x:76 ? (feel like I am playing chess rn for some reason XD)

00:58:623 (3,4) - ^ feel free to either nudge (3) right or (4) left a little to hyper again.

01:00:901 (1,2) - Just a little bit far imo. I would either say reduce distance till you can still keep the hyper or move (2) left till the tail end of (1) hypers.

01:02:040 (4,5) - Maybe move (5) a little to the left so the jump is not so intense ?

01:03:180 (1,2) - I think you should reduce here because it would make a nice build up so perhaps move (1) right more ? like x:280 ?

Unfortunately I can't continue to mod the kiai part of the overdose because I can't play it and all I see is hypers ;w;. I think maybe some reduction could be done here as it looks like just constantly holding down the spacebar but I am not sure so I will leave it to the pro's

Well all done!
Hope this helped
Good luck :3
Xinely
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Joined April 2012
Xinely
my reply was gone, basically i fixed all unless 1 thing but i forgot where ;_;
and did some remap on kiai, thanks senpai ~

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Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Kurokami
Updated. I think I changed everything although took too long to remember. /o/ Now waiting for Depths to apply his part.
SYAHME
1,072 posts
Joined January 2014
SYAHME
It alive, can't wait
autofanboy
Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion
1,578 posts
Joined January 2011
autofanboy
Oh wow it is back
and I saw my shit diff

Maybe I remap later if I have time
rew0825
1,290 posts
Joined March 2013
rew0825
Hello <3 Merry Christmas!

[Xinely's Overdose]
  1. 00:09:066 (5,1) - Change this notes to Double Hdash same as 00:06:028 (5,1,2) -
  2. 00:12:104 (5,1) - ^^^
  3. 00:16:850 (1,2) - Change the slider (1) for near the circle (2)

[Rain]
  1. 00:21:787 (1,2) - I think both notes is so far .
  2. 00:46:091 (2,3) - ^^^

[NTR8's Salad]
  1. 00:52:167 (1,2) - Between this i think it's should near more

Hope it can help you ;w;. Good luck :3
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Kurokami
Applied all for Salad and Rain. Waiting for Depths still to check WildOne's mod and Xinely to check the Overdose.
Xinely
5,014 posts
Joined April 2012
Xinely

rew0825 wrote:

Hello <3 Merry Christmas!

[Xinely's Overdose]
  1. 00:09:066 (5,1) - Change this notes to Double Hdash same as 00:06:028 (5,1,2) -
  2. 00:12:104 (5,1) - ^^^
  3. 00:16:850 (1,2) - Change the slider (1) for near the circle (2) on reflect of overdose player. (2) can be catch with easily here. just need a dash but i can reduce a bit
thanks rew ~

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Ascendance
Elite Mapper
4,225 posts
Joined July 2013
Ascendance
Woah nice song
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Kurokami
Re-mapped Cup since Depths decided to leave it on me. This set should be ready to be modded now.
SYAHME
1,072 posts
Joined January 2014
SYAHME
Is newtoniorock8 still here?
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
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Kurokami
Nope, but I still can rank his map in my set. :P
BoberOfDarkness
1,059 posts
Joined October 2013
BoberOfDarkness
Well I am pretty late but as I noticed you revived set I am here with promised mod.

General
Spinner at start of a map would be nice introduction to map itself and also it will create variety in the map and fluctuation among scores.

Suggested timeline: 00:00:521 - to 00:02:800 - (on Cup-Platter) and to 00:02:990 - (on Rain and Overdose

Xinely's Overdose

  1. 00:14:572 (3) - feels odd and uncomfortable to play as it is placed on x=0. Try at least x:8 for it.
  2. 00:19:888 (1) - ^
  3. 00:26:914 (4,5,6) - you should use larger spacing between objects, now it is a flow-stop pattern
  4. 00:31:281 (3) - again note on screen border, try to moving it to at least x:504


Rain

  1. 00:14:572 (3,4,5,6) - somehow equal distance on these could flow better
  2. 00:21:787 (1,2) - strong note at (2) that deserve hyperdash, also long jump might be very surprising without a hyperdash
  3. 00:26:724 (3,1) - I find it very good idea to emphasize it with a hyperdash
  4. 00:29:762 (3,4,5) - this would flow better than 1/2 normal dash
  5. 00:51:407 (6) - since it's placed on screenborder you might want to place it on x:8 to be less uncomfortable
  6. 01:14:952 (2,3) - direction change on (3) makes it weird to play with 01:15:616 (4,1,2,3,4) -
  7. 01:20:268 (3) - jump-into-wall, move to x:8 so it still will be hyper-dash but not such uncomfortable to play
  8. 01:25:205 (1) - would flow better as curved slider

Platter
  1. 00:12:104 (5,1) - actually you could try to put hyper here
  2. 01:03:180 (1) - direction change on (1) might be nicer kiai introduction like:
  3. 01:27:483 (1,2,3) - feels overspaced

Actually very fine set, I expected my mod to be more laborious due map its pretty old.
Good luck!
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Kurokami

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

Well I am pretty late but as I noticed you revived set I am here with promised mod.

General
Spinner at start of a map would be nice introduction to map itself and also it will create variety in the map and fluctuation among scores.

Suggested timeline: 00:00:521 - to 00:02:800 - (on Cup-Platter) and to 00:02:990 - (on Rain and Overdose




Rain

  1. 00:21:787 (1,2) - strong note at (2) that deserve hyperdash, also long jump might be very surprising without a hyperdash I know but on this bpm this results a side-to-side Hyper which I do not want to add due to being really weird to play. If you have another solution feel free to tell me.
  2. 00:26:724 (3,1) - I find it very good idea to emphasize it with a hyperdash Sadly the same issue as above explained.
  3. 01:20:268 (3) - jump-into-wall, move to x:8 so it still will be hyper-dash but not such uncomfortable to play No, I won't remain as Hyper. :c Changed differently
  4. 01:25:205 (1) - would flow better as curved slider I prefer to keep this slider along with 01:25:774 (2) - as it fits into my previous patterns

Platter
  1. 00:12:104 (5,1) - actually you could try to put hyper here To be honest, I don't even know what 5 is doing there. Based on the previous timeline that tick should be empty instead. Oh well. The HyperJumps are not even consistent at this part. orz Anyway, I would like to avoid adding a Hyper there as a different spot should be used instead, which is corrected with this update.

Good luck!
Rest is fixed. :o Thank you!
Xinely
5,014 posts
Joined April 2012
Xinely
all fixed thanks bober ~

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