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Evrien

Bass wrote:

-Ryosuke wrote:

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Nightwish - Last Ride of the Day [Shiro's Extra] by T-Mac
Negoto (DJ SEVEN) - Charon (DJ SEVEN PnB Refix) [ELY (AR9]] by eLy
Yousei Teikoku - Kuusou Mesorogiwi [DEAD END] by Saten
LeaF - Wizdomiot [Lunatic] by Asahina Momoko
Suzumu - Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou [AngelHoney's Extra] by tutuhaha

HardRock:

Guriri - -ERROR [Insane] by HanzeR
W.T. Orchestra - William Tell Overture [Champion] by Louis Cyphre
Silver Forest - 1000 Phantasm [Insane] by happy30
Parov Stelar - Catgroove [Insane] by Blue Dragon

Hidden:

M2U - Masquerade [Extreme] by Melt
Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Extra] by EvilElvis
Yucha-P - Thieves Night Trick [Extra] by tutuhaha
Fall Out Boy - Alone Together (Krewella Remix) [Alone] by Aia

DoubleTime:

Baracuda - La Di Da (Nightcore Mix) [La Di Da] by ztrot
Tsunamaru - paranoia [RLC AR8] by Chewin
Yellow Zebra - Melody! [Lunatic] by wcx19911123
Yousei Teikoku - Kyouki Chinden (TV Size) [Insane] by Saten

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yuikonnu & ayaponzu* - Kunoichi demo Koi ga Shitai [Skystar's Extra] by alacat
Memme - Starving Days [Extra] by Gamu
Ranko - Sei Natsu [Lunatic] by Amamiya Yuko
Nomy - Cocaine (Nightcore Mix) [Insane] by Aleks719

TieBreaker:

Celldweller - I Can't Wait [Impatient] by Zero__wind

Mappack is coming soon!
This week LB will be using previous one or above?
LB will be the previous week's I believe
AmaiHachimitsu
Umm, aren't we at the stage where people can play AR 10?
This looks so deliberate, Paranoia AR8 are you even serious?
I will remain silent on tutuhaha/saten picks.
pooptartsonas
Ro32 (Round of 32) with Losers Bracket Round 1 to 3 will be BO7 (Best-Of-7): first team to achieve 4 points will win the match.
I assumed the bo7 format for Losers Round 3 implied that the round 1 mappool would be used. However, looking at Challonge, it says that Losers Round 3 is a bo9 format, going against what is listed in the rules. So first of all, which is it, and second of all, how does one determine which mappool will be played for each losers bracket match? I figured it would follow a similar format to NAT (see: http://puu.sh/ivVZR/7b06262c9f.png) but the second round was played with the round 1 mappool. Sorry if I'm missing something but I can't seem to find this information.
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

pooptartsonas wrote:

I assumed the bo7 format for Losers Round 3 implied that the round 1 mappool would be used. However, looking at Challonge, it says that Losers Round 3 is a bo9 format, going against what is listed in the rules.
Rules are still rules, I just did a mistake on challonge, I apologize for that.

pooptartsonas wrote:

So first of all, which is it, and second of all, how does one determine which mappool will be played for each losers bracket match? I figured it would follow a similar format to NAT (see: http://puu.sh/ivVZR/7b06262c9f.png) but the second round was played with the round 1 mappool. Sorry if I'm missing something but I can't seem to find this information.
I'll add this up to rules when I get home, I sent the information to captains but I'll make this clearer for everyone.
Wilchq
Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Ascendance

Wilchq wrote:

Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
:^)
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

Wilchq wrote:

Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Because you can?
Histoire
just my 2 cents here

Evrien wrote:

Glazbom wrote:

You can't select a map that was used in another tournament? that's a stupid rule.
It's not a rule. It's just something the mappool selectors challenged themselves with.
They don't want the players to think: "Oh, it's the same maps again", that's all
I can completely understand this, however you shouldn't forsake the mappool just because players think that way. In the end, putting way more unranked and even in TrickMirrors case, not hitsounded maps. In all honesty, have way more unranked won't do any justice. And if you guys keep challenging yourselves with these rules, im sure by antibeat 4/5 the unranked picks are totally worse. Im not saying no to unranked, im saying please use it appropriately. They are in WIP/Pending for a reason.

Prophet wrote:

0120 wrote:

pending/graveyarded maps
THIS is ranked.Ranking Criteria don't prevent ranking key-sound maps.
And in all, MOST players would choose to play maps with hitsound (including most expert players), so I really don't see the necessity. And if you insist on playing without hitsounds, you can still add this as an exception and play other maps unhitsounded.
Thats not really a good example, considering it was rank in late 2014s.

jesus1412 wrote:

Playing the same maps in every tournament was getting stale, OWC is especially bad at this.
In all honesty, i don't think picking same maps will lead it to become "stale". Most ranked picks aren't going to be a full off copy from another tournament, and everyday there are new maps getting ranked. I also don't understand why people must view as a boring, same old map instead of a map that they have played before and definitely have confidence in doing.

tl;dr

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

less unranked map pls
Wilchq

-Ryosuke wrote:

Wilchq wrote:

Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Because you can?
Uh, I heard from our teammates, that YOU don't want to reschedule matches (we were playing with germans, same timezone and shity hour). So maybe we can't?
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

Wilchq wrote:

Uh, I heard from our teammates, that YOU don't want to reschedule matches (we were playing with germans, same timezone and shity hour). So maybe we can't?

-Ryosuke wrote:

For All-Star to run perfectly, you can't reschedule your match another day than the day assigned in the schedule and if you were to reschedule, just make it MAXIMUM 2 hour earlier or later the original match's time. Deadline is thursday 11:59PM UTC+0
I think you misunderstood that.

(The quote is taken from the PM I send to all captains.)
Nezzar

jesus1412 wrote:

Playing the same maps in every tournament was getting stale, OWC is especially bad at this.
In all honesty, i don't think picking same maps will lead it to become "stale". Most ranked picks aren't going to be a full off copy from another tournament, and everyday there are new maps getting ranked. I also don't understand why people must view as a boring, same old map instead of a map that they have played before and definitely have confidence in doing.
it really is VERY boring, especially when the song type is not something you really like, playing it all over again (in order to regain the feeling of the map) is never a good idea, and some maps are just appearing more than 2 times I think...
pooptartsonas
Maybe I'm missing something you added, but I still don't see anything in the rules about which mappool is played when? I don't mean to be obnoxious about it or anything but I want to make sure I'm practicing the right mappool.
Te Amo
High quality tourney :^)
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

pooptartsonas wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something you added, but I still don't see anything in the rules about which mappool is played when? I don't mean to be obnoxious about it or anything but I want to make sure I'm practicing the right mappool.
Fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Mappools has been moved to second post, as the 60 000 characters limit surprisingly exists.
Toy
Doesn't making the loser bracket teams play two different really expansive mappools in the same weekend seem a bit heavy?
Evrien

[Toy] wrote:

Doesn't making the loser bracket teams play two different really expansive mappools in the same weekend seem a bit heavy?
You now only have to play one mappool (current week's)
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
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FujuniseikouyuuP - Invasion of stray cats [Stray0108] by val0108
Camellia - Tabata no Uta - THE INNOCENT SHOJIN ROAD TO THE N.x.A.N. - [GUILT] by handsome
Nanjo Yoshino x Kayano Ai (as Shirabe Tsukuyomi x Kirika Akatsuki) - Edge Works of Goddess ZABABA [Death Melody] by blissfulyoshi
RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Another] by AngelHoney
Susumu Hirasawa - SWITCHED-ON LOTUS [KIRBY Mix Deluxe] by starrodkirby86
Rohi - Kakuzetsu Thanatos [Rin] by NatsumeRin
FujuniseikouyuuP - FREEDMAN [iyasine] by val0108
Ikareru Kin no Shishi - G59 [Extreme] by EvilElvis

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SHIKI - Pure Ruby [Another] by tsuka
Hatsune Miku - Recommended Spell [Spell] by val0108
guna with team kyukkyu - subconsciousness [Another] by Snow Note
yuikonnu - Genjitsu Game [Extra] by Amamiya Yuko

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44teru-k - Yami Shoujo no Yume , Kyomu no Sekai [Yuki's Extra] by [Twinkle]
Hitsuji to Ojisan - XENO [Expert] by toybot
sakuzyo - VALLISTA [iNsAnE] by Chloe
kemu - Ikasama Life Game [Ikasama] by Yales

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Pendulum - Witchcraft [RAIN] by Quiz-chan
Yousei Teikoku - Kuraki Sekai no Doukoku (Short Ver.) [Lamentation] by lolcubes
TAM - Megumeru [Kotomi] by french dude
Hanatan - Kitsune no Yomeiri [Ryafuka] by Ryafuka

FreeMod:

BRZion - Game Brain [Extra] by Zapy
Warak - REANIMATE [LV. 10.1] by Amamiya Yuko
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination [Combustion] by Jenny
Hatsune Miku - Ohigan FuzzyClap [Prankster 0108] by val0108

TieBreaker:

Yooh - MariannE [Collab] by neonat

Mappack is coming soon!
fartownik

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:
Nanjo Yoshino x Kayano Ai (as Shirabe Tsukuyomi x Kirika Akatsuki) - Edge Works of Goddess ZABABA [Death Melody] by blissfulyoshi
Susumu Hirasawa - SWITCHED-ON LOTUS [KIRBY Mix Deluxe] by starrodkirby86

FreeMod:
Warak - REANIMATE [LV. 10.1] by Amamiya Yuko
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination [Combustion] by Jenny
AmaiHachimitsu
I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
AmaiHachimitsu

Kotayo wrote:

switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it
ok that solved the problem
Nezzar

Kotayo wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
bro at least ex-termination... at least in none but not fm... please... QAQ
Evrien

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
I would like to support Amai in this case. Certain maps this round don't seem fit, and I particularly abhor the Switched-on Lotus map as well. I've seen other players voicing discontent for a few picks, too. In a setting where players are not allowed to ban maps, this particularly strains their playing strategy, and I think it's actually counter-intuitive to test players' real skills.

Heck, why not just put in a EZ pool and call an esoteric set of skills such as that a part of the test too? And even EZ is less esoteric than Kirby mods and Ex-termination, just saying
Evrien

Kotayo wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
Thank you Kotayo <3
Kotayo
writing this because ryosuke isn't at computer atm


ZABABA replaced by ---> mafumafu - Revenge Syndrome [Death]
EX-Termination replaced by ---> Neru - Ningen Shikkaku [Posthumous]
we're gonna make an AR9 version for switched on lotus
Prophet
I still want to keep the ar8 map. However changing it to ar9 is the decision of the whole map selecting group, so there's nothing much I want to say.
And the combustion is a obviously a mistake, I really apologize for that.
wasisdasS

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell
where do I sign
Nezzar

wasisdasS wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell
where do I sign
Kappa as a 6-year old player i'd like to sign also
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Edited mappool is now available in the second post. Mappack will be available asap.

also,

Matches' results
Nowy Extra M-mo-monitor 1 - 4 A-95 https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18579907
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 1 - 5 burstlimit https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18581307
Hidden Double Rock 0 - 5 #arsecrackers https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18581025
SPD 5 - 0 Eden https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18582252
Where are we? 4 - 3 osutakus - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18590891
Faplords 420 1 - 4 Cloud OD9 - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18592454
Our Aim Sucks 4 - 3 Shiro Pantsu https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18593415
Cloud OD9 4 - 5 Eden https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18599458
Ghosts 1 - 5 AntiBeat https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18601376
A-95 5 - 1 Ghosts https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617342
Where are we? 1 - 5 Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617330
Our Aim Sucks 5 - 4 Hidden Double Rock https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617893
fartownik
Not like anyone will FC Reanimate during the match because of that one 1/8-slider-jump part. It's pure random whether someone FCs that part or not.
Nezzar

fartownik wrote:

Not like anyone will FC Reanimate during the match because of that one 1/8-slider-jump part. It's pure random whether someone FCs that part or not.
I will keyspam in that part, looks like a fairly good fc chance is given (not for rhythm game huh)
Btw after spending some times on ZABABA I think map is not that bad lolz
wasisdasS

jesse1412
Don't make switched on lotus ar9 that's so disgusting. I'm offended at the idea, replace the map or keep ar8.

Reanimate is also quite a shitty pick, 1/8 slider jumps are actually a lot about luck imo.
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

wasisdasS wrote:


You've seen through it all!
Nezzar

jesus1412 wrote:

Don't make switched on lotus ar9 that's so disgusting. I'm offended at the idea, replace the map or keep ar8.

Reanimate is also quite a shitty pick, 1/8 slider jumps are actually a lot about luck imo.
[joking mode] let's make switched-on lotus a EZ mod mappool.
I have no idea how come I'd have the interest to EZ pass this 3 months ago
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

sweet ARMS - TRUST IN YOU [Kurumi is love] by CXu
Ryu* - Plan 8 [Another] by Sprosive
Reol - Asymmetry [cRyo[Skystar]'s Farewell] by Skystar
Hitori Tori - perthed again (yambabom remix) [Extra] by Asphyxia
Seiryu - Critical Crystal [Ultra] by Priti
S-C-U feat. Qrispy Joybox - anemone [Spring] by Irreversible
Suzuki Konomi - Cyber Thunder Cider [No Chilsung No Cider] by koreapenguin
xi - Blue Zenith [ktgster's Extreme] by Asphyxia

HardRock:

bibuko - Sorairo Gahou [0108-Insane] by val0108
void feat. Komatsuna - Akatsuki no Tsuki [Skystar's Extreme] by Cherry Blossom
Qrispy Joybox - licca [Skystar's Expert] by Minakami Yuki
yuikonnu - Kakushigoto [CRN] by murasaki_sk

Hidden:

Pierce The Veil - King For A Day (feat Kellin Quinn) [Ex] by pishifat
a_hisa - Cheshire,s dance [Another] by Muya
nao - Dimension tripper!!!! (TV Size) [Skystar] by wcx19911123
Function Phantom - Neuronecia [Ethereal] by Amamiya Yuko

DoubleTime:

kors k - Wuv U [dksslqj Style] by Nakagawa-Kanon
Foreground Eclipse - Noble [Dear You] by keeeeeeko
Caravan Palace - Rock It For Me [Insane] by tiper
Owl City - Hello Seattle (Remix) [Goodbye] by JauiPlaY

FreeMod:

Last Note. - Setsuna Trip [0108 style] by val0108
cosMo@Bousou-P - Okeanos [Divinity] by Broccoly
Katakiri Rekka - Answer [Insane] by bakabaka
Susumu Hirasawa - Big Brother [KIRBY Mix] by Gens

TieBreaker:

Hanatan - Kagerou Variation [Haze] by RLC

Mappack is coming soon!

(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)
koreapenguin

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:

Suzuki Konomi - Cyber Thunder Cider [No Chilsung No Cider] by koreapenguin

Mappack is coming soon!

(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)

LMAO
Evrien

-Ryosuke wrote:



[u]Hidden:


Pierce The Veil - King For A Day (feat Kellin Quinn) [Ex] by pishifat
a_hisa - Cheshire,s dance [Another] by Muya
nao - Dimension tripper!!!! (TV Size) [Skystar] by wcx19911123
Function Phantom - Neuronecia [Ethereal] by Amamiya Yuko

Mappack is coming soon!

(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)
OMG this hidden pool <3
fartownik
I'm really glad we got eliminated
Azer
What, you don't want to play blue zenith in a tournament? pfff
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