osu! All-Star [Winner: SPD]

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Evrien
Saturday matches have concluded! Results are below
(Wins by defaults due to forfeit or absence are marked 1-0 instead)

almostquaranteelAR9porfavor 4-0 The Golden Boys and Friends: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18068029
Our Aim Sucks 4-0 TW Expandables: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18069240
Chicken 1-0 RIP SkrillexFan420: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070394
burstlimit 4-0 Cute Plushies: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070216
Foodies' Team 1-0 No Team Name: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070265
LeiNoMoChowHi 4-0 Team Kappa: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070952
burstlimit 1-0 Team Sexci: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18072252
Team Astral Panda 0-4 Cao Ni Ma: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18072153
FG Troops 4-1 Team Kappa: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18073852
waterful mango 4-0 New Zealand Korean osu! Club: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18073658
Naughty Grills 0-4 AntiBeat: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18074651
Foodie's Team 4-0 Ignis: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18074812
Ghosts 4-0 Team Kappa: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18074916
Dig Bick 2-4 New Zealand Korean osu! Club: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18075744
Cao Ni Ma 0-4 Hidden Double Rock: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18076622
Team Dio 4-0 Reptile Falcons: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18076709
We So Fat 4-0 OCT Dream Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077284
Sample Text 4-1 Cuties: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077547
TATOE 4-1 Magic Girlz: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077702
LeiNoMoChouHi 4-1 FG Troops: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077436
SPD 4-0 Team Middle Finger: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077852
Eden 4-2 Chicken: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077685
AntiBeat 4-0 Nowy Extra Monitor: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18078886
So Fat Tonight 4-0 Mara's Minions: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18079443
Shiro Pantsu 0-4 SPD2: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080261
Magic Girlz 0-4 A-95: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080492
SPD 4-0 Mank Demes: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080305
Team Middle Finger 4-1 Keyboard Killers: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18079747
Reptile Falcons 4-3 Hentai Gang 2k15: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080267
TATOE 0-4 #arsecrackers: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080859
Ignis 0-4 Random: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18082802
Shiro Pantsu 4-0 Sample text: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084170
Faplords 420 4-0 Frost-P4F: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084132
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 4-0 OCT Dream Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084152
Tatoe Gaming 4-1 Functioning Members of Society: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084299
Hidden Double Rock 4-0 Team Astral Panda: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085381
Team Sexci 0-4 Cute Plushies: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085268
The Gods of Osu! 0-4 Nowy Extra M-mo-mo-monitor: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085216
Surume's Avatar is Cute 4-0 Mentally Limited: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18086531
almostquaranteelAR9porfavor 3-4 osutakus: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085340
Antibeat II 4-1 ok dad: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085585
Pantsu Warriors 1-0 Golden boys and friends: No Contest
Blossoming Sonota 4-0 RIP SkrillexFan420: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18087595
Cloud OD9 4-0 Tatoe Gaming: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18087475
Ok dad 1-0 Frost-p4f: No Contest
Functioning Members of Society 4-0 Here for free songs: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18088761
Where are? 4-2 Team Dio: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18088748
Necroluttah
gg china too good ;w;
CptBlackBird

Necroluttah wrote:

gg china too good ;w;
china rekt us

I wish my other teammates could fc something
VINXIS
FuryArt


Take one guess on who left..

:^)
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Group Stage has passed! (Actually 2 matches are being played tomorrow.)

Gratz to everyone who made it through the pools and good luck next time for those who unfortunately didn't make it!

Mappool of Ro32 will be posted tonight and /mp/ for the matches as well, schedules will be available tomorrow and the rescheduling deadline will be thursday at 11:59PM UTC+0.

You can still check scores: HERE if you want to!

Big props to the All-Star staff for the hard work they gave during this week-end, it was really tough but we ran 94 matches and thanks to everyone who watched our stream!
Evrien
2nd day, Sunday match results: Group Stage

Cloud OD9 4-0 Here for free songs: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18093958
TW Expandables 4-1 Surume's Avatar is Cute: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070991 https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18093983
Cute Plushies 1-4 umbrellas Kreygasm 4Head: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18094564
Eden 1-0 RIP SkrillexFan420: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18095151
Ghosts 4-1 FG Troops: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18095094
Our Aim Sucks 4-3 Surume's Avatar is Cute: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18097075
AntiBeat 4-0 The Gods of Osu!: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18096963
Kappa Kreygasm 4Head 1-4 burstlimit: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18098194
SPD2 4-0 Cuties: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18097932
TW Expandables 1-0 Mentally Limited: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18100847
Naughty Grills 4-0 Gods of Osu!: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18101438
Shiro Pantsu 4-0 Cuties: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18101692
Cao Ni Ma 1-0 Teamerino: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102729
Keyboard Killers 0-1 SPD: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102693
Random 4-0 Foodies' Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102737
Team Dio 4-2 Hentai Gang 2k15: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102603
TATOE 0-4 A-95: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102768
Mara's Minions 1-0 OCT Dream Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103756
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 4-1 So Fat Tonight: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102674
TILT BOYS 4-2 NZ Korean Osu: MP Link Unavailable
Chicken 4-3 Blossoming Sonata: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102876
Dig Bick 0-4 waterful mango: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103800
Teamerino 0-4 Hidden Double Rock: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18104681
Team Middle Finger 4-1 Mank Demes: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103706
Sample Text 1-4 SPD2: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103848
Pantsu Warriors 4-3 osutakus: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103766
Eden 4-0 Blossoming Sonata: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18104931
#arsecrackers 4-1 Magic Girlz: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18106191
Team Sexci 1-4 Kappa Kreygasm 4Head: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18107293
Osutakus 4-0 Golden boys and friends: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108488
Team Astral Panda 4-0 Teamerino: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109136
AntiBeat II 4-0 Frost-P4F: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108518
Faplords 420 4-2 ok dad: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108204
#arsecrackers 4-2 A-95: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108503
Mank Demes 4-0 Keyboard Killers: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109776
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 1-0 Mara's Minions: MP Link Unavailable
Ignis 1-4 No Team Name: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109687
almostaguanteelar9porfavor 4-2 Pantsu Warriors: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109699
Mentally Limited 1-0 Our Aim Sucks: MP Link Unavailable
Ghosts 4-3 LeiNoMoChowHi: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18101974
Where are we? 2-4 Reptile Falcons: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18110613
Faplords 420 4-2 AntiBeat II: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18110640
No Team Name 0-1 Random: MP Link Unavailable
Nowy Extra 4-0 Naughty Grills: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18111896
TATOE Gaming 4-0 Here for free songs: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18111868
Cloud OD9 4-0 Functioning members: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18112275
Where are we? 4-0 Hentai Gang 2k15: MP Link Unavailable
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

xi - Zephyros [Anemoi] by Maddy
Eagle - S!ck (VIP) [Extra] by RLC
U1 overground - Dopamine [Kotori's EXTREME] by fanzhen0019
Hitoshizuku x Yama* - Party*Party [Ultimate Party] by Pho
Demetori - Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion [Extra Stage] by [Hijiri Byakuren]
nano - No pain, No game [AngelHoney] by tutuhaha

HardRock:

sakuzyo - Imprinting [Scanter's Another] by Squigly
Hatsune Miku & Megpoid Gumi - MATRYOSHKA [Insane] by gowww
DystopiaGround - Transparent Stardust [nao] by Skystar

Hidden:

TOTTO - Wadatsumi [Expert] by Kloyd
Subkulture feat. Klayton of Celldweller - Erasus [EraseUs] by ErunamoJAZZ
Furries in a Blender - Ridorii [Insane] by -Lennox-

DoubleTime:

SHK - RoseHoliC [SHD] by tsukamaete
nano - GALLOWS BELL [Insane] by theramdans
Nico Nico Chorus - SPiCa [Insane Collab] by xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx

FreeMod:

Megpoid GUMI - Shinkaron -code:variant- [Rin] by NatsumeRin
Pendulum - Watercolour [Extra] by Kecco
MYTK - Yggdrasil [dksslqj's EXHAUST] by P o M u T a

TieBreaker:

t+pazolite - cheatreal [RLC's Extra] by caren_sk

Mappack is coming soon!
MatsumotoRise
Summer Solstice
That's better ;)
MiruHong
No discussion this week due to me not being here for the whole weeend
Evrien

_Miiro wrote:

No discussion this week due to me not being here for the whole weeend
Same, but will try to make it for some weekend commentating
VirtualMuffin
Hello there, I am just a spectator to this tournament and you guys are doing a great job but I feel the need to point out something that is missing in the first post. Heck, it's missing from most first posts in tournaments with group stages. How exactly are ties worked out in these tournaments, because although I can kind of work it out if I look on Challonge, it's not completely obvious.

Let's take Pool D as an example

Three teams were all on 2-1. In some competitions on this planet, goal difference may separate ties. Results against tied opponents may also be considered. Sometimes the second is ignored all together and there's some kind of a playoff a-la League of Legends. Unfortunately this is not in the rules at all so the team that didn't make it had to wait until all matches were played AND
for someone to tell them that they weren't through.

If I look at the Challonge Bracket, there's a column with wins against tied opponents. If someone managed to get onto that site they would at least know about this rule because it's shown on Challonge. However in this group 3 teams had 1 win against each other, meaning that this was also tied.

Looking at the matches Where are we? and Team Dio both won 2 maps in their lost matches whilst Reptile Falcons won 0. So could it be this that decided the fate of this group? Or was it the fact Where are we? and Team Dio lost only 2 maps in their won games. Whilst Reptile Falcons lost 5. Obviously the falcons were doomed either way, but if they won both their games 4-0 then it would have definitely been up for debate.

Of course, it's alright analysing the pool after all the matches were played but for some of these teams they were playing matches not knowing whether a win would be worthless to them progressing or not.

As I said at the beginning of this post, you guys have done a great job organising this tournament and a lot of the time criticism can be undeserved. However, this addition to intro posts in tournaments would be much welcome!
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Hello! Thanks for the feedback, let me answer to you!

VirtualMuffin wrote:

Let's take Pool D as an example

Three teams were all on 2-1. In some competitions on this planet, goal difference may separate ties. Results against tied opponents may also be considered. Sometimes the second is ignored all together and there's some kind of a playoff a-la League of Legends. Unfortunately this is not in the rules at all so the team that didn't make it had to wait until all matches were played AND
for someone to tell them that they weren't through.
To pass the pools, the condition (on challonge) is "wins and points", let's take a look at Pool E as example, both teams had 8 points (each of them won at least 8 maps) but only one made it to the bracket, it's because one team won 2 matches and the other one match, and looking back to Pool D, each of them had 2 wins but Team Dio won more maps.

VirtualMuffin wrote:

Looking at the matches Where are we? and Team Dio both won 2 maps in their lost matches whilst Reptile Falcons won 0. So could it be this that decided the fate of this group? Or was it the fact Where are we? and Team Dio lost only 2 maps in their won games. Whilst Reptile Falcons lost 5. Obviously the falcons were doomed either way, but if they won both their games 4-0 then it would have definitely been up for debate.

Of course, it's alright analysing the pool after all the matches were played but for some of these teams they were playing matches not knowing whether a win would be worthless to them progressing or not.
Any match between those 3 would've decided the fate of their pool. If the 3 Teams had 10 points and 2 wins I would've used something I can't on Challonge, the Score Difference Ratio, when you win a map over your opponent, there is a score difference, I would've added all the scores differences of the 10 maps a team won together and the two teams with the highest SDR would've passed the pool. I forgot to specify that on the main thread, I'll think of it for the future tournaments, thanks a lot!
Evrien
Chapter 4 of the 4koma is out!

AmaiHachimitsu
Megpoid GUMI - Shinkaron -code:variant- [Rin] by NatsumeRin
MYTK - Yggdrasil [dksslqj's EXHAUST] by P o M u T a
P*Light - Poppin' Shower [Another] by Reisen Udongein
07th Expansion - dreamenddischarger [Collab] by Natteke
Megpoid GUMI - Poker Face [Spade] by NatsumeRin
LeaF - Calamity Fortune [SCV's Lunatic] by Flower
After all this telling me about unique picks...
I won't complain anymore.
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Megpoid GUMI - Shinkaron -code:variant- [Rin] by NatsumeRin
MYTK - Yggdrasil [dksslqj's EXHAUST] by P o M u T a
P*Light - Poppin' Shower [Another] by Reisen Udongein
07th Expansion - dreamenddischarger [Collab] by Natteke
Megpoid GUMI - Poker Face [Spade] by NatsumeRin
LeaF - Calamity Fortune [SCV's Lunatic] by Flower
After all this telling me about unique picks...
I won't complain anymore.
I don't even know why you have been complaining in the first place, we're humans not mind readers or clairvoyants. We can't go around looking at every tournament mappool, the ones we're mostly looking at to not pick from are AntiBeat, OWCT and QCUP.

Expecting mappools to only have good maps that you love is like going to a sushi bar expecting to find the best burger you've ever tasted.
AmaiHachimitsu
I don't even know why you have been complaining in the first place, we're humans not mind readers or clairvoyants. We can't go around looking at every tournament mappool, the ones we're mostly looking at to not pick from are AntiBeat, OWCT and QCUP.
wowowowo, wait a second, I complained about unranked maps and I was told it was to avoid repetitions and it was MY argument that you can't just browse through the shitload of tournaments that are going on every month and now you're telling me you are only considering 3 (three) tournaments (series?). You know what's wrong in this. The logic.

Expecting mappools to only have good maps that you love is like going to a sushi bar expecting to find the best burger you've ever tasted.
I like your empty implications. I don't need the maps I love, I need officially accepted "good" maps, not hipster shit I'm witnessing now.
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

wowowowo, wait a second, I complained about unranked maps and I was told it was to avoid repetitions and it was MY argument that you can't just browse through the shitload of tournaments that are going on every month and now you're telling me you are only considering 3 (three) tournaments (series?). You know what's wrong in this. The logic.
Sorry about misunderstandings about if we were checking every tournament or not, that was actually our fault for not explaining what we were checking.
Regarding unranked maps i can also see the problem of picking them when they are in the ranking phase and what not, again our fault.

Kotayo wrote:

Expecting mappools to only have good maps that you love is like going to a sushi bar expecting to find the best burger you've ever tasted.

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I like your empty implications. I don't need the maps I love, I need officially accepted "good" maps, not hipster shit I'm witnessing now.
This wasn't only directed towards you, sorry if it came out like an insult.

Also i'm pretty sure we never said anything about unranked maps not being the mappools so if you ask me we're free to put in as many as we want.

I'm sorry if you don't like our way of picking maps.
AmaiHachimitsu
No need to apologize, I just wanted an explanation, thank you.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the Foreground Eclipse map got qualified when there were still matches going on, was the map updated somehow then? If yes, how did you solve the issue?
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