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cranky - The Five [Short Edit] [Taiko]

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Nofool
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jeudi 23 juin 2016 at 17:37:01

Artist: cranky
Title: The Five [Short Edit]
Source: BMS
Tags: TimmyAkmed
BPM: 160
Filesize: 3322kb
Play Time: 02:07
Difficulties Available:
  1. Akmed's Inner Oni (5,06 stars, 789 notes)
  2. Futsuu (2,02 stars, 279 notes)
  3. Inner Oni (4,13 stars, 690 notes)
  4. Kantan (1,45 stars, 168 notes)
  5. Muzukashii (2,97 stars, 430 notes)
  6. Oni (3,81 stars, 557 notes)
Download: cranky - The Five [Short Edit]
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01/05/2016 fixed timing, reworked a bit
Kantan by me (100% done)
Futsuu by me (100% done)
Muzukashii by me (100% done)
Oni by me (100% done)
Inner Oni by me (100% done)
Akmed's Inner Oni by TimmyAkmed (100% done)

Aldwych
cc TF, c'est l'heure du duel! o/

Request mod from sandwych's queue.

[General]

OMG this music is how swaggyHype in 75% speed.

00:01:004+ : Sometimes you use double d, sometimes double k, sometimes kd, maybe do the same pattern along the diff?

[Kantan]

00:14:004+ : Well i know it's really noticables these 2 objects. But not sure if 1/2 is really good on a Kantan one. Else it's ok for me.
01:19:754 (112) : I didn't find why you're using a k here, imo it's mor a d regardless on the whole part.
01:23:504 (118 - 121) : Imo these 4 notes deserves a finisher n order to intensify by the "vocals"

Else the kantan is perfect for me, spread is good along the diff, patterns a similar and representative of the music. gj m8.

[Futsuu]

00:48:629 : triple k here is not the best idea here, i'm more for a kkd here. It sounds better with the next finish.

00:52:379 : Don't know why but the missing note here is strange since there's a noticable beat here. If you do add, then k.
00:53:504 : I'd rather see a dkd pattern, it fits better the music.
00:56:504 : Same.

01:27:816 : How about adding a d here, the pattern will be more consistent and logic with how you map this part. Or at least it'll be a 2 / 2 with the pattern you did a triple 1/2 instead of a 1 / 3.

02:00:629 : triple k here is not the best idea here, i'm more for a kkd here. It sounds better with the next finish.

Really good futsuu nothing to say more.

[Muzukashii]

00:13:566+ : On this kind of pattern i'd rather see a k ddd k d, because the triple is more audible, also the second k will be and it'll fit better the vocal. f you agree with then the following must be ctrl-g.
- 00:17:691.
- 00:19:566.
- 00:23:691.

00:26:876 - 00:28:379 : This kind of pattern should be reversed since it fits better both the battery and the vocals. Ofc if you do this, it has to be applied on :

00:31:004 : I find these kind of pattern a bit technical for a muzukashii. Maybe a rework of this part will have to be if other modders ask you.

00:38:129 : Imo this pattern is a but long and confuse with the music here's my solution.

So :
- I turned on 00:38:129 to k since i think the triple since to be more noticable
- I deleted the 00:38:316 since i found the pattern a bit long and this note imo has nothing to be here.
- But i added at 00:38:691 and change the pattern to kkd (or kkk if you prefer) since 1/1 for 3 notes on a kiai is a bit boring.

00:40:191 : Here you should delete the note, first of all it'll separe the kkd pattern which will be the same as 00:38:504 (from what i did), and secondly it'll follow better the vocals.

00:55:379 : Wow this kddk was so surpising to hear. you should change this part in order to make a kddkd d k etc..., the quint here will be same as 00:58:379, so yea moar consistent.

01:47:785 : This 3/4 k is strange and weird to hear, imo it should be moved 1/4 earlier.
01:52:191 : Same thing as 00:40:191, this pattern is so long for a muzukashii.

[Oni]

00:31:004+ : Wow, map many circles in 1/4 tick is really risky and you're missing the beats and vocals too. This is not intuitive, you should rework this part and make something similar as previously.
00:42:160 : Meh even myself i fnd this kind of pattern technical for a Oni /oAo/.

01:00:254 : 1/6 on Oni, bleh! After a long stream, not the best idea imo? But 'k.
01:24:629 : Same this as above, plus when conbine with 1/4 after, it could be confuse.
01:36:254 : bleh, bleh, bleh but because the 1/6 is don and 1/4 is k, it should be moar readable.

01:378:879+ : Imo it missing some notes, you did the same king of pattern as your muzukashii and i can create some spread issue with Timmy's Oni.

[TimmyAkmed's Inner Oni]

NOOOOOO WHISTLES T_T

00:09:066 : This is the only doublet you have during this section and it's weird, you should add a d.

Else it seems fine for me but i'm not enough experienced to judge.

[Spread]

Spread test will be done further since it takes some time to do.

Je continuerais la suite plus tard lel kdplz.
Désolé pour le mod en anglais je l'ai commencé comme ca et j'avais la flemme de traduire ce que j'avais déjà commencé xD
Topic Starter
Nofool

Aldwych wrote:

cc TF, c'est l'heure du duel! o/ but im not alone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XXUzQsOiiY

Request mod from sandwych's queue.

[General]

OMG this music is how swaggyHype in 75% speed.

00:01:004+ : Sometimes you use double d, sometimes double k, sometimes kd, maybe do the same pattern along the diff? parceque certains "auto-proclamé pro mappers" se plaignent toujours que les diffs sont trop similaires. . . D et K peuvent passer j'pense donc c'est pas trop grave

[Kantan]

00:14:004+ : Well i know it's really noticables these 2 objects. But not sure if 1/2 is really good on a Kantan one. Else it's ok for me. tu parles des DD du début ? si oui, effectivement c'est pas franchement safe, j'ai fini par en mettre 2 au lieu d'un parceque sinon la partie est vraiment vide (et le spread est pas franchement bon), mais ça pourrait bien changer, j'vais voir avec + d'avis.
01:19:754 (112) : I didn't find why you're using a k here, imo it's mor a d regardless on the whole part. ok mit un d, j'avais mit k pour prolonger les kk précédent mais d sonne pas mal donc ok
01:23:504 (118 - 121) : Imo these 4 notes deserves a finisher n order to intensify by the "vocals" nice, finishers added sur les 3 premières, le 4 ème est différent imo

Else the kantan is perfect for me, spread is good along the diff, patterns a similar and representative of the music. gj m8. thx x_x

[Futsuu]

00:48:629 : triple k here is not the best idea here, i'm more for a kkd here. It sounds better with the next finish. mm j'utilise rarement la même couleur autour d'un finisher sub-Oni diff simplement parceque c'est + compliqué à jouer, j'vais laisser kkk pour l'instant et voir d'autre avis

00:52:379 : Don't know why but the missing note here is strange since there's a noticable beat here. If you do add, then k. le break passe bien avec ce qui suit, puis la partie est calme donc bon
00:53:504 : I'd rather see a dkd pattern, it fits better the music. k à la fin impératif vu le bruit imo
00:56:504 : Same. là ok

01:27:816 : How about adding a d here, the pattern will be more consistent and logic with how you map this part. Or at least it'll be a 2 / 2 with the pattern you did a triple 1/2 instead of a 1 / 3. j'avous que là j'étais à la recherche de break pour pas faire un truc trop dense, le rendu est pas excelent mais bon ,_, j'vais attendre d'autre avis encore, voir si j'peu trouver un autre truc à faire ici

02:00:629 : triple k here is not the best idea here, i'm more for a kkd here. It sounds better with the next finish. ^ comme expliqué pour le 1er kiai

Really good futsuu nothing to say more. thx again

[Muzukashii]

00:13:566+ : On this kind of pattern i'd rather see a k ddd k d, because the triple is more audible, also the second k will be and it'll fit better the vocal. f you agree with then the following must be ctrl-g. fan du k ddd d k dsl é_è, ma logique des k ici est principalement pour les drums, tout en suivant un peu le vocal, j'verais les autres avis sur ça aussi
- 00:17:691.
- 00:19:566.
- 00:23:691.

00:26:876 - 00:28:379 : This kind of pattern should be reversed since it fits better both the battery and the vocals. Ofc if you do this, it has to be applied on : ces k font le prolongement des précedents, plus cool à jouer imo, après j'peu pas ce qu'en pense les autres... pas sûr que l'inverser soit worth atm

00:31:004 : I find these kind of pattern a bit technical for a muzukashii. Maybe a rework of this part will have to be if other modders ask you. probably ;w; c'est ma tentative d'introduction à la Oni qui est bcp plus compliqué...

00:38:129 : Imo this pattern is a but long and confuse with the music here's my solution.

So :
- I turned on 00:38:129 to k since i think the triple since to be more noticable
- I deleted the 00:38:316 since i found the pattern a bit long and this note imo has nothing to be here.
- But i added at 00:38:691 and change the pattern to kkd (or kkk if you prefer) since 1/1 for 3 notes on a kiai is a bit boring. tout fait sauf le kkd, j'ai utilisé kdk à la place parceque last k primordiale imo, ddk pourrait peut-être marcher mieux aussi par contre...

00:40:191 : Here you should delete the note, first of all it'll separe the kkd pattern which will be the same as 00:38:504 (from what i did), and secondly it'll follow better the vocals. done

00:55:379 : Wow this kddk was so surpising to hear. you should change this part in order to make a kddkd d k etc..., the quint here will be same as 00:58:379, so yea moar consistent. les deux patterns fonctionnent imo, j'ai préféré commencer par le plus court x_x, ça reste consistent comme suit le même rythme j'pense

01:47:785 : This 3/4 k is strange and weird to hear, imo it should be moved 1/4 earlier. le son que je suis est bien ici mais bon... vrai que ça sonne un peu chelou à cause de l'autre bruit sur le tick précédent... à voir les autres avis
01:52:191 : Same thing as 00:40:191, this pattern is so long for a muzukashii. yep j'ai changé le second kiai d'une façon similaire

[Oni]

00:31:004+ : Wow, map many circles in 1/4 tick is really risky and you're missing the beats and vocals too. This is not intuitive, you should rework this part and make something similar as previously. j'avais changé de focus ici (ça suit bien quelque chose dans le fond), pas faux que ça sonne pas très instinctif avec ce qui précède du coup... pas de changement pour l'instant mais probable que ça change plus tard
00:42:160 : Meh even myself i fnd this kind of pattern technical for a Oni /oAo/. pas un pattern si simple, c'est surtout la masse de doublets qui rend tout ça compliqué imo... (j'avais pas prévu de faire de set quand j'ai map cette diff, c'est un peu trop élévé pour une Oni mais cette diff va probablement subir de toute façon...)

01:00:254 : 1/6 on Oni, bleh! After a long stream, not the best idea imo? But 'k. mouarf, ça suit la musique ;w; mon argumenet c'est que le bpm est pas hyper élevé donc c'est jouable hue
01:24:629 : Same this as above, plus when conbine with 1/4 after, it could be confuse. c'est l'exact son de la musique, à voir d'autres avis
01:36:254 : bleh, bleh, bleh but because the 1/6 is don and 1/4 is k, it should be moar readable. mm j'me demande si le mélange est plus simple que le monocouleur honnètement (les deux ne me posent pas de problème à cette vitesse mais ce qu'en pense les joueurs qui commence sur ça idk)

01:378:879+ : Imo it missing some notes, you did the same king of pattern as your muzukashii and i can create some spread issue with Timmy's Oni. le calme avant la kiai tempette hue, bon vu le timing je sais pas si je parle de ce à quoi tu fait référence, mais bon j'ressens pas le besoins de + ici

[Spread]

Spread test will be done further since it takes some time to do. Le spread Muzu/Oni est complètement cassé et je sais pas encore comment j'vais réglé ça, légèrement futsuu/muzu mby mais là c'est mineur

Je continuerais la suite plus tard lel kdplz. djà pas mal, quelques bons changements (la suite ? y'avait que 5 diffs é_è)
Désolé pour le mod en anglais je l'ai commencé comme ca et j'avais la flemme de traduire ce que j'avais déjà commencé xD np
Merci bien!
Konpaku Sariel
inner
to snap Melody => [M]

00:01:004 (1,2) - KK
00:01:566 (1,2,3) - dkk
00:02:316 (4,5,6) - kdd
00:02:410 (5) - add k
00:03:254 (9) - k
00:03:629 (11) - d [M]

00:39:066 (245) - d and move to 00:39:160 (245) -
00:39:347 (247) - move to 00:39:441 (247) -
00:39:629 (249) - k [M]

oni
00:01:191 (2) - K
00:04:191 (17) - ^
00:07:191 (32) - ^
00:10:191 (47) - ^
TimmyAkmed

Aldwych wrote:

[TimmyAkmed's Inner Oni]

NOOOOOO WHISTLES T_T

00:09:066 : This is the only doublet you have during this section and it's weird, you should add a d. Done

Else it seems fine for me but i'm not enough experienced to judge.
Merci!


Konpaku Sariel wrote:

inner
to snap Melody => [M]

00:01:004 (1,2) - KK Done
00:01:566 (1,2,3) - dkk Done
00:02:316 (4,5,6) - kdd Done
00:02:410 (5) - add k Done
00:03:254 (9) - k Done
00:03:629 (11) - d [M] Done

00:39:066 (245) - d and move to 00:39:160 (245) - Done
00:39:347 (247) - move to 00:39:441 (247) - Done
00:39:629 (249) - k [M]Done
Thank you!
Topic Starter
Nofool

Konpaku Sariel wrote:

oni
00:01:191 (2) - K ye why not
00:04:191 (17) - ^ i pref D here
00:07:191 (32) - ^ ^
00:10:191 (47) - ^ ^
Thanks for the check'
Fraolinch
Bli

J'ai aucune idée de comment les gens formatent leurs mods ces jours-ci donc enjoy mon truc super moche \:D/

[Kantan & Futsuu]

Both are very smooth, easy diffs. Good work on those!

[Muzukashii]

From 00:49:004 - to 01:01:004 - , maybe make it more based on doubles? On either the first or second half of that part, or throughout the entire section.
Example: http://puu.sh/gVhcX/b9733a435d.jpg (Section from 00:49:004 - to 00:55:004 - ).
Disregard if you intended for that section to be played specifically the way you did. Seeing as you did the same thing with the Oni, I now suppose you made it to be a calmer part.

[Oni]

Same as Muzu. Do or don't.
Nothing else to say, really. It's a good oni. Especially loved that stream here 00:59:129 - !

[Akmed's Inner Oni]

This is where I realize this is actually Nofool's mapset. Woops.

00:04:004 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - This bit seems unnecessarily denser than the rest of the first part of the song. You might want to tone it down and keep consistency.
Example: From d d k d kdk k d kdd
to d d k ddk k x d kdd maybe?

00:19:753 (109,110) - Feels a bit empty, breaking the flow. Add a d here 00:20:035 - or move 00:20:129 (110) - there maybe? The next "breaks" sound fine though. Only that one sounds and plays weird to me.
00:40:566 (258,259,260,261,262,263,264) - A bit weird. Make it a dk d dk d instead for example, maybe? ( http://puu.sh/gViKm/30eec14b9c.jpg )
00:46:566 (308,309,310,311,312,313,314) - Same
01:52:566 (335,336,337,338,339,340,341) - ^
01:58:566 (387,388,389,390,391,392,393) - ^

It might be me, but globally, the whole kiai parts seem to be a little messy and don't really match the rhythm throughout. You might want to work on that, but you should wait for other opinions on that before doing anything. Again, might just be me.


That's all folks.
Topic Starter
Nofool

Fraolinch wrote:

Bli

J'ai aucune idée de comment les gens formatent leurs mods ces jours-ci donc enjoy mon truc super moche \:D/
mes mods sont pas mieux ;_;

[Kantan & Futsuu]

Both are very smooth, easy diffs. Good work on those! thx

[Muzukashii]

From 00:49:004 - to 01:01:004 - , maybe make it more based on doubles? On either the first or second half of that part, or throughout the entire section.
Example: http://puu.sh/gVhcX/b9733a435d.jpg (Section from 00:49:004 - to 00:55:004 - ).
Disregard if you intended for that section to be played specifically the way you did. Seeing as you did the same thing with the Oni, I now suppose you made it to be a calmer part. yep j'ai essayé de garder un truc simple comme le kiai est légèrement dense et need une pause (la plupart des gens trouvent ça déjà hard pour une muzu... ptit prob de règles ici mais bon), j'pense garder mon truc au final

[Oni]

Same as Muzu. Do or don't. pareil, là j'éssaie aussi de marquer une différence avec la Inner comme ma Oni est proche d'une Inner à cause de certains pattern x_x donc une calm part
Nothing else to say, really. It's a good oni. Especially loved that stream here 00:59:129 - ! j'peu déjà voir les problèmes à cause des sv changes ici T_T


That's all folks.
Thanks'
TimmyAkmed

Fraolinch wrote:

[Akmed's Inner Oni]

This is where I realize this is actually Nofool's mapset. Woops.

00:04:004 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - This bit seems unnecessarily denser than the rest of the first part of the song. You might want to tone it down and keep consistency.
Example: From d d k d kdk k d kdd
to d d k ddk k x d kdd maybe? Yeah I've done that

00:19:753 (109,110) - Feels a bit empty, breaking the flow. Add a d here 00:20:035 - or move 00:20:129 (110) - there maybe? The next "breaks" sound fine though. Only that one sounds and plays weird to me. Did remove the break and I added a k at 00:19:941 it sounds better to me this way.
00:40:566 (258,259,260,261,262,263,264) - A bit weird. Make it a dk d dk d instead for example, maybe? ( http://puu.sh/gViKm/30eec14b9c.jpg )Changed this pattern so it's the same as in the others kiai in the map dk ddd kd it also sounds good to me this way

00:46:566 (308,309,310,311,312,313,314) - Same
01:52:566 (335,336,337,338,339,340,341) - ^
01:58:566 (387,388,389,390,391,392,393) - ^

^ I won't change those as I like them better like they at the moment

It might be me, but globally, the whole kiai parts seem to be a little messy and don't really match the rhythm throughout. You might want to work on that, but you should wait for other opinions on that before doing anything. Again, might just be me.


That's all folks.
Numbers 596108
Mod request by Nofool (Modding Queue)

[Kantan]

Notes :

- Try not to use 1/2 beat snap in this difficulty.

[Futsuu]

Seems fine.

[Muzukashii]

Notes :

00:57:629 (65) - o

[Oni]

Notes :

Fine. but some easy.

[Akmed's Inner Oni]

Timing :

01:46:566 - Remove this kiai time.

Notes :

00:54:441 (1) - Too short.



Sorry this mod is some short, good luck :3
Topic Starter
Nofool

Numbers 596108 wrote:

Mod request by Nofool (Modding Queue)

[Kantan]

Notes :

- Try not to use 1/2 beat snap in this difficulty. only got these DD 1/2, they are deserved but ye maybe too hard yet, ill see

[Futsuu]

Seems fine.

[Muzukashii]

Notes :

00:57:629 (65) - o kept d to emphasize the previous k for drums (following an easy drum rythm here)

[Oni]

Notes :

Fine. but some easy.
you mean too hard ?


Sorry this mod is some short, good luck :3
Thanks'
TimmyAkmed

Numbers 596108 wrote:

Mod request by Nofool (Modding Queue)

[Akmed's Inner Oni]

Timing :

01:46:566 - Remove this kiai time. Removed

Notes :

00:54:441 (1) - Too short. It is now 1/2 longer than before



Sorry this mod is some short, good luck :3
Thank you!
BlackHairEND
[Kantan]

  • <<Setting>>
  1. HP/OD changed 4/3
    <<Mapping>>
  2. 01:00:254 (88) - Slider changed Spinner Slider I felt difficult ...
[Futsuu]

  • <<Mapping>>
  1. 01:48:441 - add d  Since rust pre, I think it a little may be adding Notes
[Muzukashii]

  • <<Mapping>>
  1. 01:08:504 (88,89) - change k I think that there Behind is piano sound
[Oni]


  • <<Mapping>>
    ummm.... very good maps!! :)

[Akmed's Inner Oni]


  • <<Mapping>>
  1. 00:40:941 - delete This part is no behind sound
  2. 00:46:941 - ^
  3. 01:52:941 - ^
  4. 01:58:941 - ^
  5. 01:06:629 - add d I think the sound of the drum, and try to put?
very nice song and good maps!!! 8-) good luck :)
Topic Starter
Nofool

BlackHairEND wrote:

[Kantan]

  • <<Setting>>
  1. HP/OD changed 4/3 ok
    <<Mapping>>
  2. 01:00:254 (88) - Slider changed Spinner Slider I felt difficult ...
mm you nare probably right, keeping it for now but ill probably change it later

[Futsuu]

  • <<Mapping>>
  1. 01:48:441 - add d  Since rust pre, I think it a little may be adding Notes
yeah sounds like d ;_; but i think so it might be too hard with that d, 'cause too many notes and kiai part is coming.

[Muzukashii]

  • <<Mapping>>
  1. 01:08:504 (88,89) - change k I think that there Behind is piano sound
following drums here

[Oni]


  • <<Mapping>>
    ummm.... very good maps!! :) thanks ! x_x
very nice song and good maps!!! 8-) good luck :)
Thank you! gonna mod your map as soon as i can
TimmyAkmed

BlackHairEND wrote:

[Akmed's Inner Oni]


  • <<Mapping>>
  1. 00:40:941 - delete This part is no behind sound I do think it does match the song so I will keep it as it is sorry T_T
  2. 00:46:941 - ^ ^
  3. 01:52:941 - ^ ^
  4. 01:58:941 - ^^
  5. 01:06:629 - add d I think the sound of the drum, and try to put?Done
very nice song and good maps!!! 8-) good luck :)
streeteelf
From SEE's Taiko Modding Queue

[General]

  1. Nothing for me
[Kantan]

  1. 00:01:004 - IMO you can make the beginning in this style to avoid 1/2 in Kantan.
  2. 00:57:254 - d
  3. 01:11:504 (102) - d
  4. 01:25:754 - d
  5. 01:26:879 - k
  6. 01:37:004 - Like the beginning to avoid 1/2
[Futsuu]

  • 00:01:004 - Try to use my version of this from Kantan, because I see you use so many notes in 1/2, in Futsuu you should prepare for 1/2 and not place it everywhere, especially in the beginning.
  1. 00:51:254 - d
  2. 01:11:879 - d
  3. 01:12:254 - k
  4. 01:37:004 - 01:46:754 - Off the rhythm, map like the beginning
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:19:566 (75) - k
  2. 00:20:691 (80) - move to 00:20:879
  3. 00:47:691 (33) - k
  4. 00:51:254 - add ddd
  5. 01:05:879 (86) - delete
  6. 01:37:004 - 01:44:504 - Place more notes, try to keep the rhythm like you did in the beginning, it's nice made
  7. 01:44:785 - k
[Oni]

  1. 01:00:254 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107) - Too hard for Oni, better in Inner Oni, I suggest slider here like you did in lower diffs
  2. 01:24:629 (205,206,207,208) - d
  3. 01:37:004 - Map like the beginning, better rhythm
  4. 01:48:254 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - IMO too hard, suggest only triplets here
[Akmed's Inner Oni]

  1. IMO, only streams could be a little more constant, like 00:37:004 (225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241) -
Nice song, nice map. :3 Good luck~ :)
Topic Starter
Nofool

streeteelf wrote:

From SEE's Taiko Modding Queue

[General]

  1. Nothing for me
[Kantan]

  1. 00:01:004 - IMO you can make the beginning in this style to avoid 1/2 in Kantan. nice idea!
  2. 00:57:254 - d no change, trying to not get too many notes, and i like how it plays currently.
  3. 01:11:504 (102) - d no change, break to prepare the following part.
  4. 01:25:754 - d fixed this part in a different way
  5. 01:26:879 - k ^
  6. 01:37:004 - Like the beginning to avoid 1/2 kinda fixed
[Futsuu]

  • 00:01:004 - Try to use my version of this from Kantan, because I see you use so many notes in 1/2, in Futsuu you should prepare for 1/2 and not place it everywhere, especially in the beginning. deleted some
  1. 00:51:254 - d no change
  2. 01:11:879 - d ^
  3. 01:12:254 - k ^
  4. 01:37:004 - 01:46:754 - Off the rhythm, map like the beginning deleted some big notes again
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:19:566 (75) - k i like too much k ddd d k sry
  2. 00:20:691 (80) - move to 00:20:879 keeping my xx xxxx structure
  3. 00:47:691 (33) - k ^
  4. 00:51:254 - add ddd i prefer a break here
  5. 01:05:879 (86) - delete keep for the gab futsuu/muzu
  6. 01:37:004 - 01:44:504 - Place more notes, try to keep the rhythm like you did in the beginning, it's nice made i follow the melody this time
  7. 01:44:785 - k mm not a good idea here imo
[Oni]

  1. 01:00:254 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107) - Too hard for Oni, better in Inner Oni, I suggest slider here like you did in lower diffs mm tried slider/1/4 stream, both play bad... gonna keep for now
  2. 01:24:629 (205,206,207,208) - d changed some, but it might be harder now in fact lol...
  3. 01:37:004 - Map like the beginning, better rhythm pref the current part
  4. 01:48:254 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - IMO too hard, suggest only triplets here yeah gonna use triples
Thanks!
Zetera
Hi, you won a mod which arrives late, sorry for that. Exams start this week.

[Kantan]

|00:56:504 (91,92,93,94) - Not sure if that double formation is the best thing to do, it's not relative to the music. I would simply stay sticked with the previous patterns. Also applies to Futsuu.

Otherwise pretty solid.

[Futsuu]


|00:14:504 (29,30,31) - I like this idea of a pattern, but you need some kind of transition. Just some circles ago, you provided some constant ds in a 1/1 rhythm. But as soon as the new pattern kicks in, the next d is not on a white tick anymore, because it was delayed a bit. This causes confusion and even affected me.
What I suggest is probably causing the beatmap to become too harsh talking about star difficulty. But it might be better to understand. What about using a kkdk-pattern instead of a kk d-pattern? If not, consider changing up those 3 ds in front of the pattern. It looks good the way it is, but it is confusing.

[Muzukashii]

|00:31:191 (123,124,125,126,127,128) - I think this is a hard pattern for a Muzu. Too hard. I recommend k ddd d k d k. Since there is a similar pattern with mixed colours coming up, I would suggest using the new pattern and flipping its colours as well. This would make it a d kkk k d k d-Pattern.
Just change the pattern accordng to the used colour.
|00:57:254 (63,64) - You might want to delete these for consistency's sake. (00:51:254 - ). However, keep the following patterns because you will cause a build-up with them.
|01:16:754 (111) - Maybe put 2 ds in front of this circle, again for consistency. (01:13:379 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - )

[Oni]

|01:00:254 (101,102,103,104,105,106) - Pretty evil. What about this?
|01:34:379 (10,11,12) - This is awkward because the previous patterns were full of circles and those 3 circles are really taking away the tension even though that is the most tense part. I made this as an example, you can also feature this.

[Akmed's Inner Oni]

|00:12:066 (51,52,53,54,55,56) - Giving all circles a finish causes the last circle to be less pronounced, it should stand out though. I would remove all finish sounds apart from the one on 56.

The problem I see here is that the diff lacks of structure. There are barely any repetitions (usage and position of ks differ) and this makes most of the patterns randomly structured. Rythmwise they are mostly fine though. It would be nice if the ks followed a certain melody or rhythm, because as they are now, they fulfill the purpose of creating patterns rather than creating a music-relational map.
This kinda works out in the kiai, but it's quite a problem at 00:13:004 - and the following part up to the beginning of the Kiai. This is a method to keep your patterns clean and fitting: Choose a basic rhythm to emphathise vocals or drums, melody also works. Then apply that basic pattern you made on any other spot that features said vocals, drums or melody. But be careful: I don't ask you to make full patterns, but parts of patterns, mostly consisting of ks, in order to add ds to said ks which will then make your draft pattern complete. If you have questions, just ask me right away.

|00:52:941 (339,340,341) - Not sure if that triple makes any sense. I would just go on with the 1/1-taps.

|01:25:004 - Same thing as explained earlier. Look, the Muzu provided a perfect basic pattern for this part, you can feature it and then use some more ds to make the pattern fit into the image of an Inner Oni.


That's pretty much all I have to say. Good luck!
JUDYDANNY
hello ,M4M, and I'm sorry to late :?
Kantan ~ Futsuu looks very good and, Muzukashii~ Oni have one problem, but other is fine :)
Let's go.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:35:879 (36) – delete?
    *-1 back vocal is noisy, but I guess it can ignore , consistent with the density.
    *-2 00:35:879 (36,37) - pitch conversion is more specific than 00:35:504 (35,36) –. It works well to epmhashize to 00:36:629 (37) – sound.
  2. 01:25:754 (52) - , 01:28:754 (57) – kat.
    *-1 sounds up than 01:13:004 (31,32,33,34,35,36) – part.
  3. 01:31:754 (62) – don?
  4. 00:04:004 (6) - , 00:10:004 (16) – change to normal don?
  5. 01:40:004 (75) – , 01:46:004 (83) - change to normal don?
  6. Very nice , simple Kantan :D
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:57:254 (142) – move to 1/1 right ? same as Kantan.
  2. 01:57:441 (263) – kat?
  3. 01:38:879 (219) - , 01:41:879 (222) - , 01:45:441 (226) - delete?
    They followed to trumpet, yes. But I guess it can ignore. Listened to the patterns so far, its more important to make the basis rhythm than pure sounds. And It sounds not more clear for me than Muzukashii.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:01:754 (4) – kat , 00:02:504 (7) – don? It makes more clear for pure sounds.
  2. 00:04:754 (8,11) – etc… same as above.
  3. 01:37:004 (196,197) – add finisher, same as other diff and part.
  4. 01:45:441 (211) – delete ? for emphasized to next01:46:004 (213,214) - .
  5. since 00:31:004 (122) –part, I guess doublet 1/4 patterns doesn’t need as Muzukashii. This arrangement makes really hard to play , it’s not clear to pure sound.
    How about ? e.g http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3008095
[Oni]
  1. since 00:31:004 –part, same as Muzukashii. Bacis flow that sounds bass ,(example.. 00:31:379 -,00:32:879 (191) - ) they can’t ignore. It doesn’t not smooth, really hard part.. ;_;
    For this now, I suggest you put to 00:31:379 -,00:32:879 – etc. :3
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3008136
  2. 00:47:972 (44) - kat.? Plays better to me. lol
  3. 01:34:379 (10,11,12) – put more notes…? E.g. 01:34:941 (12) – add don?
  4. cool kiai XD
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:02:691 (7) – delete the finisher, not loud sound, and for emphasized to 00:04:004 (12,13) – Dons.
  2. 00:06:066 (23,24) – dk?
  3. 00:08:316 (32) – k? or(and) 00:08:691 (35) –don?
  4. 00:10:754 (45) – k?
  5. 00:12:066 (51) – Kat, it sounds different from00:12:254 (52,53) -.
  6. 00:13:941 (64,65,66,67) – d-dk-kd >> dk-kd-d ?
  7. 00:32:785 (198) – add don , it can follow to bass sounds up.
  8. 00:33:066 (200,201,202,203) - dkd-k >> dk-kd? Same as00:31:941 (192,193,194,195) –
  9. 00:35:410 (218) – move to 00:35:222 (217) - ? its better to me for smoothing.
  10. 00:39:722 (250) – don? It sounds being low.
  11. 00:41:222 (262) – move to 1/2 right ? 00:41:129 (262) -. It works to make a link 00:40:660 (258) –kat.
  12. 00:45:629 (301,302) – kd?
  13. 00:47:222 (314) – same as above.
  14. 01:43:660 (276) - add don here.
  15. 01:45:160 (284) - ^
  16. 01:46:660 (291) - add kat here.
  17. 01:51:722 (332) – same as 1st part, don?
  18. 01:53:222 (344) – same as 1st part.
  19. 01:57:441 (381) – kat.
  20. 01:59:222 (396) – same as 1st part.
  21. 02:00:347 (405) - add don?
  22. 02:01:191 (413) - move to 1/2 right, sounds not correct;_;
Good luck and stars :)
Renka
Hi, from forum,I'm sorry for late mod;;

kantan
good map!

Muzukashii
01:00:254 - To try match with the Futsuu length of the slider?

Oni
02:01:285 - change d? - I think that it sounds better.

Akmed's Inner Oni
00:02:691 - change d? - I felt that it do not have to emphasize.
00:11:785 - change k? - ^
00:13:004 - ^
Change the slider to 01:11:504 ~ 01:12:816? It appears to be shifted.
01:22:097 move to 01:22:004? - I think that the more the better.

Good song,Is what map is also fun,Good Luck!
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