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GoldenWolf
Hi there, just some timing fixes~

01:45:961 - BPM 142.000 4/4
01:46:594 - BPM 166.000 3/4
01:47:678 - BPM 166.000 4/4

and

05:19:484 - BPM 166.000 7/4

This is what it should look like:


Hope that helps c:
Topic Starter
Keada

GoldenWolf wrote:

Hi there, just some timing fixes~

01:45:961 - BPM 142.000 4/4
01:46:594 - BPM 166.000 3/4
01:47:678 - BPM 166.000 4/4

and

05:19:484 - BPM 166.000 7/4

This is what it should look like:


Hope that helps c:
Thanks for the timing fixes :>
Topic Starter
Keada

JBHyperion wrote:

I've updated my mod post with some thoughts on the map itself in addition to the more general comments I posted previously. Hope you find some of them useful and they're still relevant (:
Not sure if I should give more kudosu, but this has helped me quite alot, so Ill do it! :D

Here is the thing he said before, if noone noticed:

Keada wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Summoned from the team queue - although I'm not sure how much help I'll be considering my inability to adequately testplay most of this xD I love the song, so I'll give it my all and hopefully some of these points will be helpful to you :3

General Comments:
  1. Consider adding some more tags to help search the mapset. You can pick any you think are worth including from Touhou, Ten Desires, TH13, Rigid Paradise, Yoshika Miyako, Metal, Instrumental... (: added (Touhou, Ten Desires, Metal and Instumental) :D
  2. Iim not sure on this one, but should Touhou be used as a Source if it's not an original work (as is the case here)? I see in some other Demetori songs (for example) it is cited e.g. here, whereas in others it's not, e.g. here - can someone confirm what the rule is here? It is from Touhou, my bad forgetting to put it in >.<
  3. Combo colours (2) and (4) were quite hard to distinguish for me - maybe increase the contrast between them a bit (but so much that either is too similar to (1). Fixed
  4. Letterbox during breaks can be disabled, since this map doesn't have a storyboard (unless you are planning to make one?) If you do uncheck this, you can delete the .osb file in the song folder as well. Fixed
  5. You have two images in the song folder (you should only have one), both of which are 1273x712 - this is unrankable. BG images should be 1024x768 for standard 4:3, or preferably, 1366x768 for widescreen 16:9 resolutions, so you'll need to resize of find a new bg image. I would stick with the current JPG (the PNG is far too bright IMO). Fixed
  6. You have a custom normal-hitclap hitsound in the song folder, but I can't see anywhere you use it in the song (might have just missed it though, sorry if I did). Also, you use custom soft and drum samplesets, but don't actually have any custom hitsounds. I take it this is something you're still working on? Oh owo apparantly I forgot to put the sampleset >.< Thank you! <3
  7. 80% volume throughout the song isn't great in my opinion, you lose a lot of the emphasis in he kiai (where volume should be higher) and are slightly overbearing in the few calmer sections such as 02:09:635 to 02:10:269 and 03:52:737 to 03:58:430. I'd use 90% for the former and something like 50-65% for the latter? Try some different options and see what works for you. fixed
Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Dawn
02:34:665 - If you drag your breaks out to the next white tick (or sometimes red tick depending on the BPM and song), it flows nicer during play in my opinion, so you could do this for each of your breaks if you feel it does anything for you. Doesn't do anything for me so :(

05:24:545 onwards - What's the purpose of all the red timing points at the end of the song here? You don't have a variable BPM or time signature here, and you even have the same volume and hitsound sampleset... Are they to correct offset changes? o_O The purposes is that the metronome change, so yeah :D

Here's a bunch of general stuff to think about, some more comments about the map itself will be coming very soon - right after I tend to my real life work (which is far less interesting than modding this ;))

MORE TO COME...
Thank you for the mod! Much difference here :D
JBHyperion

Keada wrote:

Not sure if I should give more kudosu, but this has helped me quite alot, so Ill do it! :D
You'll probably get in trouble for giving me the extra kudosu! Dx It's done like that to stop people posting tons of mod posts with only one or two pieces of advice and abusing the kudos system, but oh well, can't be helped. And besides, I said I'd give it a complete mod, and I did so because I love the song and map and I wanted to help you out (: I only posted it in two edited parts because I had to actually do some real life work at some point xD
Topic Starter
Keada

JBHyperion wrote:

Keada wrote:

Not sure if I should give more kudosu, but this has helped me quite alot, so Ill do it! :D
You'll probably get in trouble for giving me the extra kudosu! Dx It's done like that to stop people posting tons of mod posts with only one or two pieces of advice and abusing the kudos system, but oh well, can't be helped. And besides, I said I'd give it a complete mod, and I did so because I love the song and map and I wanted to help you out (: I only posted it in two edited parts because I had to actually do some real life work at some point xD
Oh D: then my mistake ;w;

But Really thanks ^-^ *pats head*
JBHyperion
Yeah it's fine, I asked ztrot in #modhelp to deny it for me ^^

If in doubt, check the page about kudosu on the wiki to see whether you should award or not.

And no worries, if you need another mod on this in the future (after some other people have posted and you've made some changes or added new stuff) or anything else you map in the future, poke me and I'll gladly take a look at it for you (:
Topic Starter
Keada

JBHyperion wrote:

Yeah it's fine, I asked ztrot in #modhelp to deny it for me ^^

If in doubt, check the page about kudosu on the wiki to see whether you should award or not.

And no worries, if you need another mod on this in the future (after some other people have posted and you've made some changes or added new stuff) or anything else you map in the future, poke me and I'll gladly take a look at it for you (:

I will :>
Thank you again ;w;
bigfeh
This mod was requested in bigfeh's 24h Modding Queue.

Gotta admit I love this. I can totally see myself playing this map when it gets ranked (holy stamina though)

Dawn

• 00:14:696(3) - Consider adding another return to slider (notice how the guitar keeps going after it ends)
• 00:29:154(1) - Meh, small aesthetic question here: why did you break the combo? It could be okay with a single one, I guess
• 00:31:323(1,2) - Consider adding a note between the two sliders (in the blue tick). Maybe halfway in a straight line between the slider end on 1 and the slider beginning on 2?
• 00:31:323(2,3) - ^ Same suggestion, consider adding note in similar fashion
• 00:34:214(2,7) - I feel like these notes shouldn't be here. Try deleting them and see if the map feels less cramped to you
• 00:34:214(5,6) - There's a notable hit between these notes. Maybe make 5 a double instead?
• 00:35:299(2,7) - Consider removing these notes too. Same as 00:34:214(2,7)
• 00:35:299(5,6) - Consider adding note between these two. Same as 00:34:214(5,6)
• 00:37:648(3,4) - ^
• 00:58:792(1,2) - The guitar repeats the note that plays on both notes once between them (on the blue tick). Consider adding a note here too
• 00:58:792(4,5) - You should add a note here as well on the blue tick. I'd suggest a circle stacked with the slider start on 5
• 01:07:467(3,4) - There's a kick between these notes. Consider adding circle
• 01:11:442 - I would make this stream a bit "rounder", as in pic related. Up to you though
• 01:19:214(3,4) - Consider adding note in blue tick
• 01:21:924(4,5) - Adding a slider with start on 4 and end on 5 is probably a good idea (see pic related)
• 01:21:924(7,8,9) - Revisit this triple. I recommend adding a slider instead, as there are no drums and the guitar note is long
• 01:38:551(7,8) - Add note in blue tick for maximum clicking swag
• 01:42:888(6,7,8) - Strongly suggest adding note after 8 on blue tick
• 01:54:726(6,7) - I suggest that you add a note between these two
• 01:56:171(1,2) - Same ^
• 02:09:184(6) - Consider making changes as in pic related
• 02:28:702(6) - Adding a combo on this note makes it slightly easier to read the stream. Not strictly needed though
• 02:37:557(1) - Since the map has almost zero breaks, you could remove this slider and add a break here instead
• 03:43:521(1,2,3) - This could (should?) be a slider with start on 1 and end on 3
• 03:43:521(4,5,6) - ^ Same, except start on 5 and end on 6
• 03:45:508(2) - I don't get this note. Maybe delete?
• 03:54:183(2,3) - I hear moar drumzz! How about adding a circle on the 1/8th note between the slider end on 2 and 3?
• 03:58:520(5,6) - Blue tick between 5 and 6 should have a circle
• 04:05:388(2,3) - Same ^
• 04:06:834(3,4) - ^
• 04:06:834(5,6) - ^

From that note until the end, I don't feel like there are any needed changed. Very, very solid map and I love it. It is, however, an RSI generator because geez, these streams

All in all, I love this map - definitely one of the best I've ever modded. I particularly like the flow and the spacing between the notes. Great job! Hope to see this ranked soon!
Topic Starter
Keada

Keada wrote:

bigfeh wrote:

This mod was requested in bigfeh's 24h Modding Queue.

Gotta admit I love this. I can totally see myself playing this map when it gets ranked (holy stamina though)

Dawn

• 00:14:696(3) - Consider adding another return to slider (notice how the guitar keeps going after it ends)
• 00:29:154(1) - Meh, small aesthetic question here: why did you break the combo? It could be okay with a single one, I guess
• 00:31:323(1,2) - Consider adding a note between the two sliders (in the blue tick). Maybe halfway in a straight line between the slider end on 1 and the slider beginning on 2?
• 00:31:323(2,3) - ^ Same suggestion, consider adding note in similar fashion
• 00:34:214(2,7) - I feel like these notes shouldn't be here. Try deleting them and see if the map feels less cramped to you
• 00:34:214(5,6) - There's a notable hit between these notes. Maybe make 5 a double instead?
• 00:35:299(2,7) - Consider removing these notes too. Same as 00:34:214(2,7)
• 00:35:299(5,6) - Consider adding note between these two. Same as 00:34:214(5,6)
• 00:37:648(3,4) - ^
• 00:58:792(1,2) - The guitar repeats the note that plays on both notes once between them (on the blue tick). Consider adding a note here too
• 00:58:792(4,5) - You should add a note here as well on the blue tick. I'd suggest a circle stacked with the slider start on 5
• 01:07:467(3,4) - There's a kick between these notes. Consider adding circle
• 01:11:442 - I would make this stream a bit "rounder", as in pic related. Up to you though
• 01:19:214(3,4) - Consider adding note in blue tick
• 01:21:924(4,5) - Adding a slider with start on 4 and end on 5 is probably a good idea (see pic related)
• 01:21:924(7,8,9) - Revisit this triple. I recommend adding a slider instead, as there are no drums and the guitar note is long
• 01:38:551(7,8) - Add note in blue tick for maximum clicking swag
• 01:42:888(6,7,8) - Strongly suggest adding note after 8 on blue tick
• 01:54:726(6,7) - I suggest that you add a note between these two
• 01:56:171(1,2) - Same ^
• 02:09:184(6) - Consider making changes as in pic related
• 02:28:702(6) - Adding a combo on this note makes it slightly easier to read the stream. Not strictly needed though
• 02:37:557(1) - Since the map has almost zero breaks, you could remove this slider and add a break here instead
• 03:43:521(1,2,3) - This could (should?) be a slider with start on 1 and end on 3
• 03:43:521(4,5,6) - ^ Same, except start on 5 and end on 6
• 03:45:508(2) - I don't get this note. Maybe delete?
• 03:54:183(2,3) - I hear moar drumzz! How about adding a circle on the 1/8th note between the slider end on 2 and 3?
• 03:58:520(5,6) - Blue tick between 5 and 6 should have a circle
• 04:05:388(2,3) - Same ^
• 04:06:834(3,4) - ^
• 04:06:834(5,6) - ^

From that note until the end, I don't feel like there are any needed changed. Very, very solid map and I love it. It is, however, an RSI generator because geez, these streams

All in all, I love this map - definitely one of the best I've ever modded. I particularly like the flow and the spacing between the notes. Great job! Hope to see this ranked soon!
Thank you for the mod! ^-^ Remapped pretty much here :> and thanks for the comment o3o first map im trying to get ranked ;w;
Lally
hi o3o

[General]
  1. try this colors :V personally yours doesen't fit a lot
    Combo1 : 159,9,0
    Combo2 : 89,51,244
    Combo3 : 48,188,228
    Combo4 : 58,142,152
    Combo5 : 166,117,94
    Combo6 : 244,189,0
[Diffu]
  1. increese audio lead-in to 2000
  2. HP 6 pls o3o
  3. 01:46:242 - unsnapped green line
  4. 03:42:255 (3) - unsnapped slider
  5. 00:51:924 (4,5,1) - you could curve th slider to create a better flow
  6. 00:53:732 (1,2,3) - why overlaps? increse spacing
  7. 00:58:792 (1,2,3,4,5) - try to give a form to this stream imo would be better
  8. 01:19:756 (1) - blanket
  9. 02:01:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - why don't you try to give a cleaner form to this stream and remove the slider to continue the stream
  10. 02:26:714 (5,6) - imo is to big jump
  11. streeeeaaams @@@\o3o\
Topic Starter
Keada

Lally wrote:

hi o3o

[General]
  1. try this colors :V personally yours doesen't fit a lot Added :3
    Combo1 : 159,9,0
    Combo2 : 89,51,244
    Combo3 : 48,188,228
    Combo4 : 58,142,152
    Combo5 : 166,117,94
    Combo6 : 244,189,0
[Diffu]
  1. increese audio lead-in to 2000
  2. HP 6 pls o3o (Guess ill go back to it then) o3o
  3. 01:46:242 - unsnapped green line Removed, because there was no point in that green line o-o
  4. 03:42:255 (3) - unsnapped slider Snapped correctly (forgot mainly because of timing fixes etc >.<)
  5. 00:51:924 (4,5,1) - you could curve th slider to create a better flow
  6. 00:53:732 (1,2,3) - why overlaps? increse spacing
  7. 00:58:792 (1,2,3,4,5) - try to give a form to this stream imo would be better
  8. 01:19:756 (1) - blanket
  9. 02:01:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - why don't you try to give a cleaner form to this stream and remove the slider to continue the stream
  10. 02:26:714 (5,6) - imo is to big jump
  11. streeeeaaams @@@\o3o\ Streamsuuuuuu (^∇^)
Thank you for the moddu (^∇^) remapped some of the map o3o hopefully looks better now
Victoire
M4M!

Blue for personal taste.
Red for something I see as a problem.
Orange for a small problem.

Dawn

After getting a first impression of the map, I have two points to make:
1. Your streams are not always very pretty. Those will probably take some work and reconsideration before this gets approved.
2. A partial cause of the first problem, turn off Grid Snap especially for those streams. Grid Snap makes it very hard to make nice-looking streams, and overall just inhibits you.

That said, there's very little wrong about the map in terms of playability, and it's still fun.


With the timing, I came to an offset of 882 for the first timing point, and subsequently everything else follows with a change of -8ms.


00:01:401 (1,1) - I think it'd be nice to not begin with two spinners, especially seeing as these are mappable, normally.
00:15:058 (2) - The overlap with 00:14:335 (6) - is a bit ugly.
00:19:576 (8,1) - Maybe make this a triple too, for consistency?
00:29:154 (9,10,11) - The sharp angle here in this otherwise curvy stream doesn't look good.
00:34:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't think you're mapping very well to the music here. The music gets more intense (without so many 1/4ths), and the map doesn't accommodate that.
00:45:772 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - These streams look wonky.
01:11:434 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Would look better if it was more evenly round (like the letter C)
01:16:495 (4) - Try moving it a bit to the right, I think that'd look nicer.
02:14:416 (1,2,3,4,5) - This should be spaced a bit further away from the last stream.
03:04:838 (1,2,3) - ^
03:11:524 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - I really don't like how the spacing goes here, it feels very out-of-place, other than it raising at the part where the music raises too. Before that is a big no from me.
04:44:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spike up in spacing is definitely too much, having it accelerate a bit (at least) would help, instead of instantly going faster.
05:19:476 (1) - (until end) I like the increase in difficulty here, it definitely fits, but it seems like it makes a jump down in difficulty at about 05:38:632 (1) - without getting back to the same intensity (while the song gets more and more intense.

Fun map! As I said in the mod, you're going to have to do some work on the streams (more than mentioned specifically) before this'll get approved, but those are far from unfixable, and once you've fixed that up, the map will look a lot nicer. Good luck getting it approved!
Topic Starter
Keada

Antarus wrote:

M4M!

Blue for personal taste.
Red for something I see as a problem.
Orange for a small problem.

Dawn

After getting a first impression of the map, I have two points to make:
1. Your streams are not always very pretty. Those will probably take some work and reconsideration before this gets approved.
2. A partial cause of the first problem, turn off Grid Snap especially for those streams. Grid Snap makes it very hard to make nice-looking streams, and overall just inhibits you.

That said, there's very little wrong about the map in terms of playability, and it's still fun.


With the timing, I came to an offset of 882 for the first timing point, and subsequently everything else follows with a change of -8ms.


00:01:401 (1,1) - I think it'd be nice to not begin with two spinners, especially seeing as these are mappable, normally.
00:15:058 (2) - The overlap with 00:14:335 (6) - is a bit ugly.
00:19:576 (8,1) - Maybe make this a triple too, for consistency?
00:29:154 (9,10,11) - The sharp angle here in this otherwise curvy stream doesn't look good.
00:34:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't think you're mapping very well to the music here. The music gets more intense (without so many 1/4ths), and the map doesn't accommodate that.
00:45:772 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - These streams look wonky.
01:11:434 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Would look better if it was more evenly round (like the letter C)
01:16:495 (4) - Try moving it a bit to the right, I think that'd look nicer.
02:14:416 (1,2,3,4,5) - This should be spaced a bit further away from the last stream.
03:04:838 (1,2,3) - ^
03:11:524 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - I really don't like how the spacing goes here, it feels very out-of-place, other than it raising at the part where the music raises too. Before that is a big no from me.
04:44:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spike up in spacing is definitely too much, having it accelerate a bit (at least) would help, instead of instantly going faster.
05:19:476 (1) - (until end) I like the increase in difficulty here, it definitely fits, but it seems like it makes a jump down in difficulty at about 05:38:632 (1) - without getting back to the same intensity (while the song gets more and more intense.

Fun map! As I said in the mod, you're going to have to do some work on the streams (more than mentioned specifically) before this'll get approved, but those are far from unfixable, and once you've fixed that up, the map will look a lot nicer. Good luck getting it approved!
Thanks for the mod! <3 Tidied up my map now, hopefully looks better, even lost 0.02 stars owo but some of the streams im keeping.
Biri Biri
[General]

From start to 00:35:283 (1), the beats aren't snapped. Did you perhaps change or shift their offsets? I think a BPM change could remedy this since it sounds on time, or re-offsetting possibly.

[Dawn]
00:50:471 (1) - Making this a straight slider would look a little neater. Or spacing it with 00:50:742 (2) - better.
00:51:916 (4,5,1) - This blanket could be slightly improved.
02:01:856 (6,7,8) - I feel these 3 could be curved rather than angled to keep that stream as flowy as it started. I moved (6) right/down slightly, (7) +4x/+4y, and (8) to x268/ y60. Something along those lines give it a similar to idea curve, so that 02:02:127 (1) feels almost like a slight snap for the emphasis of it's beat.
02:03:844 (4,5) - I'd scoot this down 4-8 units on the y-axis for cosmetic purposes.
03:13:332 (13) - New combo?
03:13:693 (1) - Un-combo with ^?
03:35:561 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - A 1,2,3,4 sequence would improve this guitar emphasis well imo, as well as reshaping the combo slightly to reflect what you're going for shape-wise. 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3 works too if you want to keep the end and do the threes (which look good).
03:54:717 (2) - Move down +4 on the y-axis for a nigh-perfect blanket.
04:45:139 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - Sick, I like it. In my opinion, reflecting the same pattern into 04:46:404 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) would benefit the map's rhythmical symmetry. At approximately 04:46:404 (2), what I suggest regarding the rhythm is what comes to mind:
05:13:693 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm sure its a reference to the map's start, but I personally like a flip of this. Simply a ctrl+J or a 45 degree, clockwise, playfield rotation would keep the creativity consistent.
05:44:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Personal taste, I feel like moving this entire combo over to the right just to give it a wider entrance would provide very slightly. x436 y280 is what I settled on, see below also ~
05:46:222 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - By doing the above, and moving this entire combo to x476-y192 give it a really good finish.

The transition looks like this:

I love this map, despite I can only play it when completely warmed up xD. Let's get this rankkkked omg, great job on it!

(omg thank god bancho's downtime at this time let me keep this post)
Topic Starter
Keada

Kamidachi wrote:

[General]

From start to 00:35:283 (1), the beats aren't snapped. Did you perhaps change or shift their offsets? I think a BPM change could remedy this since it sounds on time, or re-offsetting possibly. Fixed (thanks for telling me xD)

[Dawn]
00:50:471 (1) - Making this a straight slider would look a little neater. Or spacing it with 00:50:742 (2) - better.
00:51:916 (4,5,1) - This blanket could be slightly improved. Fixed
02:01:856 (6,7,8) - I feel these 3 could be curved rather than angled to keep that stream as flowy as it started. I moved (6) right/down slightly, (7) +4x/+4y, and (8) to x268/ y60. Something along those lines give it a similar to idea curve, so that 02:02:127 (1) feels almost like a slight snap for the emphasis of it's beat.
02:03:844 (4,5) - I'd scoot this down 4-8 units on the y-axis for cosmetic purposes.
03:13:332 (13) - New combo?
03:13:693 (1) - Un-combo with ^?
03:35:561 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - A 1,2,3,4 sequence would improve this guitar emphasis well imo, as well as reshaping the combo slightly to reflect what you're going for shape-wise. 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3 works too if you want to keep the end and do the threes (which look good). Not sure what you meant D: But I remapped
03:54:717 (2) - Move down +4 on the y-axis for a nigh-perfect blanket.
04:45:139 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - Sick, I like it. In my opinion, reflecting the same pattern into 04:46:404 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) would benefit the map's rhythmical symmetry. At approximately 04:46:404 (2), what I suggest regarding the rhythm is what comes to mind:
05:13:693 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm sure its a reference to the map's start, but I personally like a flip of this. Simply a ctrl+J or a 45 degree, clockwise, playfield rotation would keep the creativity consistent.
05:44:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Personal taste, I feel like moving this entire combo over to the right just to give it a wider entrance would provide very slightly. x436 y280 is what I settled on, see below also ~
05:46:222 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - By doing the above, and moving this entire combo to x476-y192 give it a really good finish. I love it <3

The transition looks like this:

I love this map, despite I can only play it when completely warmed up xD. Let's get this rankkkked omg, great job on it!

(omg thank god bancho's downtime at this time let me keep this post)

Thank you for the mod o3o and thanks for telling me about the snapping >.< forgot about that after changing offset :D and I remapped some parts :> hope its better :D
Kuki
From ✞Kuki and Moph's Modding Q✞

[Dawn]
  1. You probably should be using a beat snap of 1/4.
  2. 00:00:882 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can definitely have more fun with this stream.
  3. 00:03:609 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
  4. 00:09:063 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  5. 00:10:427 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - This fits the rhythm but seems out of place. The spacing here is too much also.
  6. 00:28:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Don't keep this all one combo.
I had a hard time modding this, seeing if Moph can follow up.

p.s.
I would try to avoid the straight streams because it seems like you could do more with them :)
Topic Starter
Keada

Kuki wrote:

From ✞Kuki and Moph's Modding Q✞

[Dawn]
  1. You probably should be using a beat snap of 1/4.
  2. 00:00:882 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can definitely have more fun with this stream. Gave it more of a circular form
  3. 00:03:609 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ ^
  4. 00:09:063 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Gonna keep this
  5. 00:10:427 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - This fits the rhythm but seems out of place. The spacing here is too much also. Im keeping this too, and the spacing is because its much easier to read because its in another rhythm
  6. 00:28:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Don't keep this all one combo. Splitted the combo ^-^
I had a hard time modding this, seeing if Moph can follow up.

p.s.
I would try to avoid the straight streams because it seems like you could do more with them :)
Thank you for the mod! :D
Ciyus Miapah
Demetori~

always stream maps haha!

Dawn:
00:11:822 (4) - should NC this, this pattern still have 1/3 beats
00:18:845 (4,5,6) - why you didnt make some triplet pattern in here?
00:33:845 (9) - make triplet or triplet slider (very makes sense)
00:34:206 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the pattern here feels off consider you change it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2944659 (yeah just patterning, not note placement)
01:12:880 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - i suggest you to follow guitar sound, this triplets is not feel good i think
01:19:206 (1,2,3) - this should be a doublet (but triplet overmap everywhere ;_;), yeah i kno this~
02:10:621 (7) - need to delete this (its okay if you didnt map 02:10:621 - ), so players can charge stream energy for this
02:21:465 (5,9) - if you want it just NC this, i hear some drum transition in this pattern so this NCs will be makes sense to your map
02:33:573 (5) - you should NC this, no matter that slider has 1 combo you just need to do it
02:50:561 - to 02:56:344 - in this part you should keep your combo patterning at downbeat (i hear some Hats sound there)
03:02:488 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - confusing i guess
03:04:747 - why you randomly blank this one??
03:17:850 (3,1) - this flow very rigid, you can move this pattern to x228y348 (or anything else), then you can fix distance spacing for 03:17:669 (2) -
03:18:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ♥
03:20:199 (7) - should NC this
03:20:922 - to 03:26:705 - in this part you need to keep your NCs at downbeat, please check some NCs in that part (i prefer this combos because strong instrumental finish makes more sense of NCs than Guitar song or anything else)
03:35:380 - i didnt really thinking about this pattern but at least you need to map some clickable object in here (and NC it)
03:35:561 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - combo in here feels unnecessary (please follow snare sound as combo)
03:52:006 (1,2,3) - change to 2 reverse slider feels better
03:53:573 (2,3,4,5) - 1/2 + 1/3 pattern combo is bad idea, make some reverse slider in some 1/3 pattern can make readability more comfortable
04:28:151 (5) - change to triplet slider?
04:28:874 (1) - change to 1/2 slider?
05:44:686 - why? (05:44:596 (3) - make this 1/4 slider or anything else)

okay stream :3
good luck!
Topic Starter
Keada

Fort wrote:

Demetori~

always stream maps haha!

Dawn:
00:11:822 (4) - should NC this, this pattern still have 1/3 beats fixed
00:18:845 (4,5,6) - why you didnt make some triplet pattern in here? Fixed slightly
00:33:845 (9) - make triplet or triplet slider (very makes sense) I want it to be a slider here
00:34:206 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the pattern here feels off consider you change it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2944659 (yeah just patterning, not note placement) Changed to some different patterns, I want it to be jumps here
01:12:880 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - i suggest you to follow guitar sound, this triplets is not feel good i think Changed slightly
01:19:206 (1,2,3) - this should be a doublet (but triplet overmap everywhere ;_;), yeah i kno this~ Doubles it is
02:10:621 (7) - need to delete this (its okay if you didnt map 02:10:621 - ), so players can charge stream energy for this Removed
02:21:465 (5,9) - if you want it just NC this, i hear some drum transition in this pattern so this NCs will be makes sense to your map Fixed
02:33:573 (5) - you should NC this, no matter that slider has 1 combo you just need to do it Fixed
02:50:561 - to 02:56:344 - in this part you should keep your combo patterning at downbeat (i hear some Hats sound there)
03:02:488 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - confusing i guess Made it less confusing
03:04:747 - why you randomly blank this one?? Changed
03:17:850 (3,1) - this flow very rigid, you can move this pattern to x228y348 (or anything else), then you can fix distance spacing for 03:17:669 (2) - Changed slightly
03:18:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ♥
03:20:199 (7) - should NC this Done
03:20:922 - to 03:26:705 - in this part you need to keep your NCs at downbeat, please check some NCs in that part (i prefer this combos because strong instrumental finish makes more sense of NCs than Guitar song or anything else) Fixed
03:35:380 - i didnt really thinking about this pattern but at least you need to map some clickable object in here (and NC it) Changed
03:35:561 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - combo in here feels unnecessary (please follow snare sound as combo) Fixed
03:52:006 (1,2,3) - change to 2 reverse slider feels better Changed
03:53:573 (2,3,4,5) - 1/2 + 1/3 pattern combo is bad idea, make some reverse slider in some 1/3 pattern can make readability more comfortable I want it to stay like this, so no
04:28:151 (5) - change to triplet slider? you mean opposite right? xD Changed
04:28:874 (1) - change to 1/2 slider? Changed
05:44:686 - why? (05:44:596 (3) - make this 1/4 slider or anything else) Fixed

okay stream :3
good luck!
Thank you for the mod Fort :> and yeah I know! STREAMS <3 Streams are life bruh ;D
Changed much in this mod :> hope you'll like it!
And some people wanted me to take doubles there but, meeeh since all want it, why not be evil :>
Sonnyc
Nominate
l1mi
Places that if you slightly adjust its distance, might look better.

00:14:236 (5) -
00:20:019 (2) -
00:21:465 (2) -
00:25:803 (5) -
00:50:742 (2) -
00:55:441 (2) -
00:56:615 (1) -
00:59:416 (6) -
01:01:224 (2) -
01:07:097 (4) -

01:08:091 (5) - the curve would feel better to play if this one was moved more to the right
01:50:200 (2) - 1.6 instead of 1.48?
04:15:500 (1) - start the stream further away because every similar stream so far have been a jump stream and 04:14:777 (2,3) - make you assume there isnt a note missing but another jump stream.
Topic Starter
Keada

Sonnyc wrote:

Nominate
Hype \o/

Thank you <3
Topic Starter
Keada

l1mi wrote:

Places that if you slightly adjust its distance, might look better.

00:14:236 (5) -
00:20:019 (2) -
00:21:465 (2) -
00:25:803 (5) -
00:50:742 (2) -
00:55:441 (2) -
00:56:615 (1) -
00:59:416 (6) -
01:01:224 (2) -
01:07:097 (4) -

01:08:091 (5) - the curve would feel better to play if this one was moved more to the right
01:50:200 (2) - 1.6 instead of 1.48?
04:15:500 (1) - start the stream further away because every similar stream so far have been a jump stream and 04:14:777 (2,3) - make you assume there isnt a note missing but another jump stream.
no more modding when its bubbled btw and I gave Kudosu by mistake D:
Cherry Blossom
Hello Keada.
This map is really recent (if i trust the date of the submission), and people didn't really think that this map is ready yet for approval.
The main reason is Quality, the quality needs to be improved to give a better impact and impression. I keep in mind that you're a beginner at mapping (you don't have any ranked maps), so i won't force you to make perfect things.

Patterns lacks of solid structure, some 1/4 sliders are just "thrown away" and there are confusing patterns. Stream's shapes are not really well done, there are weird shapes which can be improved for a smoother motion. Yes, the notion of "flow" still exists for streams.
Your use of custom hitsounds is really weird, you mainly use default hitsounds and suddenly here 03:58:512 - you use some custom hitsounds, for something which could be followed with default hitsounds as well and the other way round. try to make them consistent throughout the map.


Dawn

  1. 00:06:592 (2,1) - Here you should increase the distance between these objects, it will be less confusing because of the distance between 00:06:336 (1,2) -
  2. 00:19:026 (5,6,7) - Due to the stack leniency, they overlap the previous slider, and i don't think it was your intention. There should be more distance between these stacked objects and the previous slider.
  3. 00:21:194 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as here, it looks unpolished and a little messed up, + the flow is a little bad here because the direction of this slider 00:21:194 (1) - is upward, and the next objects are at the opposite side, and the player might get a 100 here.
  4. 00:37:821 (3,4) - This can be quickly confusing here, the player expects a 1/4 gap between 00:37:821 (3,4) - because of the slider velocity and the previous patterns. You should unstack these objects.
  5. 00:50:471 (1,2,3) - This looks really weird to play, because you don't let the player play the whole slider 00:50:471 (1) - and as i said above, he might get a 100 here, try something else like a curved slider instead of this 00:50:471 (1) - . You perfectly did it here 00:56:254 (7) -
  6. 01:19:748 (1,2) - This looks really unpolished, as i said above. The distance between these sliders is really low and that can be uncomfortable to play, and that can be confusing because of the previous patterns, so, you should increase the distance between these sliders, for a better and smoother motion when playing.
  7. 01:35:651 - to 01:46:586 - The difficulty difference is clearly noticeable, there are higher jumps and the same density, i mention this because this part is harder than the previous kiai time. That makes this map unbalanced. So, you should nerf the jumps on this part.
  8. 02:05:742 (5,6,7,8,9) - Improve its shape, you see that it is not perfectly curved, and you should improve its shape because there could be a better and smoother motion.
  9. 03:02:669 (3,4) - The different number of reverses is not expectable and easily confusing, because this is a fast part and the player expects kick sliders with 2 reverses like 03:03:211 (4) - . Try to avoid reversed slider like this 03:02:669 (3) -
  10. 03:17:308 (9) - The first 1/4 slider should start here because the first strong beat starts here, not here 03:17:488 - . And it will give a better impression if the first 1/4 slider is here.
  11. 04:10:079 (1,2,3,4) - The distance between these sliders is too large compared to what we can see on previous patterns with kick sliders like this. This creates a little spike and players can easily get a sliderbreak here because it is a little surprising too. So, there should be less distance between these sliders. Same for 04:16:223 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  12. 04:20:922 (6,7,8) - this looks a little uncomfortable to play, because there is an angle near to 180° between them, and the distance is not the same. The player should have enough aim to be able to handle them, he can be also helped by the approach rate, but that's not really a reason to say "i won't change because AR is enough fast". I suggest you to make something instead, which looks like a star pattern (but not really a star), like :
  13. 05:45:861 (4,5,1) - They are misleading, i think that you're supposed to emphasize the strong notes you can hear (and you can follow with a finish hitsound), but they are not well done and they don't show the real impact of the song. There should be more distance between 05:46:042 (5,1) - because they are the most powerful notes you can hear, and that's really weird to see them overlapped when there is a larger spacing for previous objects which follows less powerful notes.

This is not good enough to get approved, things need to be more polished and you need to get more mods from experienced modders or from testplayers.
I really recommend you to work on stream's shapes to make them look nicer and better to play.
Call me back when you feel ready for a recheck later, not now.
Topic Starter
Keada

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello Keada.
This map is really recent (if i trust the date of the submission), and people didn't really think that this map is ready yet for approval.
The main reason is Quality, the quality needs to be improved to give a better impact and impression. I keep in mind that you're a beginner at mapping (you don't have any ranked maps), so i won't force you to make perfect things.

Patterns lacks of solid structure, some 1/4 sliders are just "thrown away" and there are confusing patterns. Stream's shapes are not really well done, there are weird shapes which can be improved for a smoother motion. Yes, the notion of "flow" still exists for streams.
Your use of custom hitsounds is really weird, you mainly use default hitsounds and suddenly here 03:58:512 - you use some custom hitsounds, for something which could be followed with default hitsounds as well and the other way round. try to make them consistent throughout the map.


Dawn

  1. 00:06:592 (2,1) - Here you should increase the distance between these objects, it will be less confusing because of the distance between 00:06:336 (1,2) -
  2. 00:19:026 (5,6,7) - Due to the stack leniency, they overlap the previous slider, and i don't think it was your intention. There should be more distance between these stacked objects and the previous slider.
  3. 00:21:194 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as here, it looks unpolished and a little messed up, + the flow is a little bad here because the direction of this slider 00:21:194 (1) - is upward, and the next objects are at the opposite side, and the player might get a 100 here.
  4. 00:37:821 (3,4) - This can be quickly confusing here, the player expects a 1/4 gap between 00:37:821 (3,4) - because of the slider velocity and the previous patterns. You should unstack these objects.
  5. 00:50:471 (1,2,3) - This looks really weird to play, because you don't let the player play the whole slider 00:50:471 (1) - and as i said above, he might get a 100 here, try something else like a curved slider instead of this 00:50:471 (1) - . You perfectly did it here 00:56:254 (7) -
  6. 01:19:748 (1,2) - This looks really unpolished, as i said above. The distance between these sliders is really low and that can be uncomfortable to play, and that can be confusing because of the previous patterns, so, you should increase the distance between these sliders, for a better and smoother motion when playing.
  7. 01:35:651 - to 01:46:586 - The difficulty difference is clearly noticeable, there are higher jumps and the same density, i mention this because this part is harder than the previous kiai time. That makes this map unbalanced. So, you should nerf the jumps on this part.
  8. 02:05:742 (5,6,7,8,9) - Improve its shape, you see that it is not perfectly curved, and you should improve its shape because there could be a better and smoother motion.
  9. 03:02:669 (3,4) - The different number of reverses is not expectable and easily confusing, because this is a fast part and the player expects kick sliders with 2 reverses like 03:03:211 (4) - . Try to avoid reversed slider like this 03:02:669 (3) -
  10. 03:17:308 (9) - The first 1/4 slider should start here because the first strong beat starts here, not here 03:17:488 - . And it will give a better impression if the first 1/4 slider is here.
  11. 04:10:079 (1,2,3,4) - The distance between these sliders is too large compared to what we can see on previous patterns with kick sliders like this. This creates a little spike and players can easily get a sliderbreak here because it is a little surprising too. So, there should be less distance between these sliders. Same for 04:16:223 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  12. 04:20:922 (6,7,8) - this looks a little uncomfortable to play, because there is an angle near to 180° between them, and the distance is not the same. The player should have enough aim to be able to handle them, he can be also helped by the approach rate, but that's not really a reason to say "i won't change because AR is enough fast". I suggest you to make something instead, which looks like a star pattern (but not really a star), like :
  13. 05:45:861 (4,5,1) - They are misleading, i think that you're supposed to emphasize the strong notes you can hear (and you can follow with a finish hitsound), but they are not well done and they don't show the real impact of the song. There should be more distance between 05:46:042 (5,1) - because they are the most powerful notes you can hear, and that's really weird to see them overlapped when there is a larger spacing for previous objects which follows less powerful notes.

This is not good enough to get approved, things need to be more polished and you need to get more mods from experienced modders or from testplayers.
I really recommend you to work on stream's shapes to make them look nicer and better to play.
Call me back when you feel ready for a recheck later, not now.
Heyo, thanks for that :D I kiiiind of knew it would be like this >.< but I wanted to try D: and I fixed everything you said here so (tried at least) :>
And I will work on stream shapes ^^
Loughje
Dang, well atleast it was bubbled! That's pretty cool!
First mania pass?

It killed my wrists
Nerova Riuz GX
Wow I'm here just after unbubbled
will work for this later
Topic Starter
Keada

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

Wow I'm here just after unbubbled
will work for this later
Hype <3 Im not Home so ;D tyt :>
Nerova Riuz GX

Keada wrote:

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

Wow I'm here just after unbubbled
will work for this later
Hype <3 Im not Home so ;D tyt :>
That's OK, it's about 1:00 A.M. here (GMT+8)
And I can't do anything only with my phone lol
maybe tomorrow
Nerova Riuz GX
Hi, From my queue's mod!
It's a nice song, for approved

Dawn

Well basically your map lacks consistency, because you just mainly focused on streams.
so in my opinion, it should be added some more jump sliders (or other better shapes), and also expand many parts of notes.
also check all NCs and be sure they're all in good standing

  1. 00:06:336 (1,2) - try this two:
  2. 00:11:124 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - compare this two transistions:
  3. 00:13:604 (1) - continue combo, 00:13:965 (4) - NC here
  4. 00:14:959 - a circle here
  5. 00:21:194 (1,2) - more distance
  6. 00:22:279 (8,9) - ^
  7. 00:25:170 (1) - continue combo, 00:25:532 (4) - NC here
  8. 00:46:134 (5,1) - more distance
  9. 00:47:218 (5,1) - ^
  10. 01:19:206 (1,2,3,4) - Well, these doubles are unexpected, because of low consistency. Two way to go: delete them, or add more doubles.
  11. 01:59:959 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - expand them
  12. 02:10:079 (6) - considering NC
  13. 02:33:573 (1) - Don't let the slider ends on 1/4 lines.
  14. 02:33:573 (1) - breaktime?
  15. 03:39:356 (4) - far more
  16. 03:54:175 (1,2) - blanket
  17. 03:55:079 (3) - Why it's not in 1/8?
  18. 05:08:271 - Add a spinner in breaktime?
  19. 05:47:307 (9) - NC

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Keada

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

Hi, From my queue's mod!
It's a nice song, for approved

Dawn

Well basically your map lacks consistency, because you just mainly focused on streams.
so in my opinion, it should be added some more jump sliders (or other better shapes), and also expand many parts of notes.
also check all NCs and be sure they're all in good standing

  1. 00:06:336 (1,2) - try this two:
  2. 00:11:124 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - compare this two transistions:
  3. 00:13:604 (1) - continue combo, 00:13:965 (4) - NC here
  4. 00:14:959 - a circle here
  5. 00:21:194 (1,2) - more distance
  6. 00:22:279 (8,9) - ^
  7. 00:25:170 (1) - continue combo, 00:25:532 (4) - NC here
  8. 00:46:134 (5,1) - more distance
  9. 00:47:218 (5,1) - ^
  10. 01:19:206 (1,2,3,4) - Well, these doubles are unexpected, because of low consistency. Two way to go: delete them, or add more doubles.
  11. 01:59:959 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - expand them
  12. 02:10:079 (6) - considering NC
  13. 02:33:573 (1) - Don't let the slider ends on 1/4 lines.
  14. 02:33:573 (1) - breaktime?
  15. 03:39:356 (4) - far more
  16. 03:54:175 (1,2) - blanket
  17. 03:55:079 (3) - Why it's not in 1/8?
  18. 05:08:271 - Add a spinner in breaktime?
  19. 05:47:307 (9) - NC

Good Luck!
Thank you for the mod :> I fixed most of it, buuut im gonna keep the doubles :>
rhalp10
Sorry My Queue For STDHas Been Closed I Can't Handle That Mode Anymore .. :(
rhalp10

Sorry My Queue For STDHas Been Closed I Can't Handle That Mode Anymore .. :(
Topic Starter
Keada

rhalp10 wrote:

Sorry My Queue For STDHas Been Closed I Can't Handle That Mode Anymore .. :(
Rip
Feb
hellu.

shittymod incoming. mostly suggestions

SPOILER
General: you might wanna rename the BG to something "better" :p

00:51:916 (4,5) - would recommend to space this like you did here 00:50:471 (1,2) - no?
00:53:362 (6,7) - ^
01:03:844 (1,2,3) - very short spacing between 2 and 3 (you are doing this later on aswell for no real reason)
01:05:290 (3,4,5) - ^
01:09:627 (1,2,3) - I think 2 and 3 are in the slider by a little.
01:45:953 (4) - I am far to bad for this map but this slider could take ppl by surprise who don't know the song.
01:53:453 (1,2,3) - make the slider mirror
02:16:224 (1) - CTRL+G
02:27:790 (6) - ^
02:31:043 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - would wait with the spaced streams until the end.
03:02:127 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - no need to curve them.
03:05:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
03:10:802 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
03:42:247 (3) - CTRL+G
04:46:404 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - decide on a spacing here i don't feel like here is changing anything

You could work on some streampatterns since you use the same ones quite often. I recommend you to look at map
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/697546
some delicious streams. :p
Didn't take a look at the hitsounds since I am bad at it ):

Good Luck <3 would love to see 1 more Demetori Ranked APP !
Topic Starter
Keada

donten wrote:

hellu.

shittymod incoming. mostly suggestions

SPOILER
General: you might wanna rename the BG to something "better" :p

00:51:916 (4,5) - would recommend to space this like you did here 00:50:471 (1,2) - no?
00:53:362 (6,7) - ^
01:03:844 (1,2,3) - very short spacing between 2 and 3 (you are doing this later on aswell for no real reason)
01:05:290 (3,4,5) - ^
01:09:627 (1,2,3) - I think 2 and 3 are in the slider by a little.
01:45:953 (4) - I am far to bad for this map but this slider could take ppl by surprise who don't know the song.
01:53:453 (1,2,3) - make the slider mirror
02:16:224 (1) - CTRL+G
02:27:790 (6) - ^
02:31:043 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - would wait with the spaced streams until the end.
03:02:127 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - no need to curve them.
03:05:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
03:10:802 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
03:42:247 (3) - CTRL+G
04:46:404 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - decide on a spacing here i don't feel like here is changing anything

You could work on some streampatterns since you use the same ones quite often. I recommend you to look at map
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/697546
some delicious streams. :p
Didn't take a look at the hitsounds since I am bad at it ):

Good Luck <3 would love to see 1 more Demetori Ranked APP !
Oh, uhm Im remapping atm, so you can wait for that instead? xD
Edit: or you can mod this? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/314522 :>
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Keada
Okayyyyy~

Remapped diff comes in a week :D



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