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I didn't post it until now because you changed the seeding format at the last second didn't you? I don't expect perfect match ups, but there should be some system to make sure they're not so one-sided there is no point in having the match, like Bauxe vs that 100K guy. I'm not sure what traditional seeding is, but it seems just like it was random. Another idea is to assign every adjacent player from the target on the player pp list a point value, say 20 points for the players next to the target, 19 points of the next two adjacent players etcetera.Happyjon wrote:
Looking at the graph I posted here, you will notice that roughly 70% of all players are between 3000 and 5000pp. These matches in round 1 shouldn't be too one-sided. With such a range of skill levels, it's very hard to have a format that caters to all the outliers. I'm really not sure how your suggested format would be implemented given that we only have 8 players below 3000pp, and even their range of skill levels is quite high. Also, any objections with the tournament format really should have been raised earlier when the thread was first posted, as it is far too late to change anything at this time.
That's a selfish attitude, deprive all other players of fair matches just so the top players can cruise through easily beating their opponents, so they only have to face each other at the end, so there's more suspense or something? Maybe that's your idea of a 'good' tournament, and it may be fun for you, but not for the low ranked players like vawlt pointed out.buny wrote:
a 5 digit rank will pretty much have no chance of winning. I don't see your logic in allowing them to play other low ranks as more deserving players are being knocked out earlier.
seeding is a means of avoiding scenarios like these.
as for your suggestion, this is basically the same as a low rank tournament with its own prize which could be hosted by somebody else
Lol are u fukin seriousB1rd wrote:
That's a selfish attitude, deprive all other players of fair matches just so the top players can cruise through easily beating their opponents, so they only have to face each other at the end, so there's more suspense or something? Maybe that's your idea of a 'good' tournament, and it may be fun for you, but not for the low ranked players like vawlt pointed out.
But if that's the problem, then what was wrong with my suggestion? Here is a modified version. Everyone get's one fair match, and the all the best players last till the end. Seems like it'd be 'fun' and 'good' without compromising.
please stop postingB1rd wrote:
That's a selfish attitude, deprive all other players of fair matches just so the top players can cruise through easily beating their opponents, so they only have to face each other at the end, so there's more suspense or something? Maybe that's your idea of a 'good' tournament, and it may be fun for you, but not for the low ranked players like vawlt pointed out.
But if that's the problem, then what was wrong with my suggestion? Here is a modified version. Everyone get's one fair match, and the all the best players last till the end. Seems like it'd be 'fun' and 'good' without compromising.
Maybe Jesus is trying to send you a messageRewben2 wrote:
Damaged my tablet cord for the first time since I owned it bringing it to a LAN a few days ago, and now the shops are closed for this friday bullshit... rip me. Mouse leggo.
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Prediction Bracket!
Vote for your favourite or vote for the underdog! \o/
This is only for fun, please don't criticize me :c
you aren't even in this get the f00k outTachibana Rika wrote:
EmeraldStar82 wrote:
Prediction Bracket!
Vote for your favourite or vote for the underdog! \o/
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You can do it!!!Hulmy wrote:
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Gee thanks
I know I have a slim chance, but seeing that is kind of discouraging...
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It sure was! Good luck with the rest of the tournament.Aloha wrote:
ggwp Philantropist, was a fun match.
Accuracy is probably my strong point.Philantropist wrote:
It sure was! Good luck with the rest of the tournament.Aloha wrote:
ggwp Philantropist, was a fun match.
still admiring that ss
Because you're the best Australia has c;AusBox wrote:
I have no idea why I have this many votes...
I don't know how you could come that conclusion. A 100K player would be matched against low pp players first off but wouldn't get past the second round.blahpy wrote:
How fair is it gonna be if the final is like someone rank 100 vs someone rank 100,000 and the rank 100,000 get second place cause you didn't seed the players?
I would actually prefer it actually if you used words rather than just using insults. I still don't see the problem of arranging the tournament in a way that every player gets a fair match at the start while still retaining the competitive aspect. But it was just some suggestions to try and improve the tournament, I don't personally care that much and I'm not try and fight if everyone is against the idea.buny wrote:
I'd post a giant wall of text to explain the reasoning as to WHY seeding works how it is, but you're more dense than a block of lead, a feminist and a fat activist combined
The idea isn't for the lower ranked players to make it to finals (Why would this be the intention ever?). It's so they can have a more fair+enjoyable experience by playing against players of a more similar skill level, rather than being matched against high ranked players and having absolutely no hope and getting crushed. And it still has the benefits of seeding; the higher ranked players still play eachother at the end.buny wrote:
next time maybe have a double elimination from the start, the second round would have the lower ranked players in the loser bracket playing against each other. Wouldn't actually change anything though since none of them would make it to the finals
except a tournaments idea isn't to "have fun"Rewben2 wrote:
The idea isn't for the lower ranked players to make it to finals (Why would this be the intention ever?). It's so they can have a more fair+enjoyable experience by playing against players of a more similar skill level, rather than being matched against high ranked players and having absolutely no hope and getting crushed. And it still has the benefits of seeding; the higher ranked players still play eachother at the end.buny wrote:
next time maybe have a double elimination from the start, the second round would have the lower ranked players in the loser bracket playing against each other. Wouldn't actually change anything though since none of them would make it to the finals
It's pretty pointless to discuss now, it's far too late to change anything now but I guess it can be changed for the next tournament.