^Tachibana Rika wrote:
or bloodcat
wow rude shortpotato is cutest oneesama nzvawlt wrote:
I'd like to say, Being paired with shortpotato, IF there is no losers bracket, i'd like to pull out, if there IS a losers bracket. I'll stay in this tournament.
well fuck rip hard game pls tell me this applies for nomod tooHappyjon wrote:
Each player may only pick one map from each pool, nomod excluded. Eg. Player 1 picks a HD map, he may no longer pick from the HD pool again, but player 2 will still have the option to use a HD map until he uses it.
Sure, I'll take you out.vawlt wrote:
I'd like to say, Being paired with shortpotato, IF there is no losers bracket, i'd like to pull out, if there IS a losers bracket. I'll stay in this tournament.
That's fine, they can join provided they're willing to play the matches of the person who dropped out. I'm not redoing the seeding at this point. Just get them to send me a message with their availability.blahpy wrote:
if people do drop out before the first round like they do in most tournaments though i know someone who wants to join but found out too late so hit me up if you need someone
Dumii wrote:
well fuck rip hard game pls tell me this applies for nomod too
Happyjon wrote:
Each player may only pick one map from each pool, nomod excluded.
Yeah well, it'd be a trainwreck, its no competition. I thought we'd be paired with people with comparable skill levels. Playing to lose isn't fun.blahpy wrote:
wow rude shortpotato is cutest oneesama nz
#No_mod JusticeDumii wrote:
well fuck rip hard game pls tell me this applies for nomod tooHappyjon wrote:
Each player may only pick one map from each pool, nomod excluded. Eg. Player 1 picks a HD map, he may no longer pick from the HD pool again, but player 2 will still have the option to use a HD map until he uses it.
that's not how tournaments workvawlt wrote:
Yeah well, it'd be a trainwreck, its no competition. I thought we'd be paired with people with comparable skill levels. Playing to lose isn't fun.blahpy wrote:
wow rude shortpotato is cutest oneesama nz
I know how a tournament works. its just unfortunate that a "good tournament" is favored over a fun one.buny wrote:
seeding works by placing the top skilled players into different brackets, so they won't play each other until the near finals.
how is this any different than playing normally and having a rank, other than this being real time?vawlt wrote:
I know how a tournament works. its just unfortunate that a "good tournament" is favored over a fun one.buny wrote:
seeding works by placing the top skilled players into different brackets, so they won't play each other until the near finals.
5 digits vs 3 digits is not fun.buny wrote:
how is this any different than playing normally and having a rank, other than this being real time?
A good tournament can translate to a fun one. I'm sorry you can't feel the same.
There is no point in matches where one player has no chance to beat the other. Why can't we cater to everyone and make sure everyone can have fun by seeding it so that people are matched roughly against people of their own skill level? There is no reason why we can't work out a fair system in which this is the case. This is what I suggested last tournament for example https://i.ppy.sh/9bce8b1909Tokichii wrote:
This tournament is aimed to find out who are the best aus/nz players in multi. If you wish to have a fun tournament that is aimed for low ranks only, feel free to organise one! This is a competitive tournament where skill matters as much as having fun, sorry if it can't cater to everyone's expectations.
I have not been given access to the stream client yet, but if I get it, I will try to stream most games. It is unlikely the games will be casted until round 3.EmeraldStar82 wrote:
I noticed that there are 2 games per time slot, will every game be casted on Twitch or will some people miss out?
That is if any game is casted.
Looking at the graph I posted here, you will notice that roughly 70% of all players are between 3000 and 5000pp. These matches in round 1 shouldn't be too one-sided. With such a range of skill levels, it's very hard to have a format that caters to all the outliers. I'm really not sure how your suggested format would be implemented given that we only have 8 players below 3000pp, and even their range of skill levels is quite high. Also, any objections with the tournament format really should have been raised earlier when the thread was first posted, as it is far too late to change anything at this time.B1rd wrote:
There is no point in matches where one player has no chance to beat the other. Why can't we cater to everyone and make sure everyone can have fun by seeding it so that people are matched roughly against people of their own skill level? There is no reason why we can't work out a fair system in which this is the case. This is what I suggested last tournament for example https://i.ppy.sh/9bce8b1909
because that's not how tournaments workB1rd wrote:
There is no point in matches where one player has no chance to beat the other. Why can't we cater to everyone and make sure everyone can have fun by seeding it so that people are matched roughly against people of their own skill level? There is no reason why we can't work out a fair system in which this is the case. This is what I suggested last tournament for example https://i.ppy.sh/9bce8b1909Tokichii wrote:
This tournament is aimed to find out who are the best aus/nz players in multi. If you wish to have a fun tournament that is aimed for low ranks only, feel free to organise one! This is a competitive tournament where skill matters as much as having fun, sorry if it can't cater to everyone's expectations.
Please stop with these cancerous posts about not using seeding...B1rd wrote:
There is no point in matches where one player has no chance to beat the other. Why can't we cater to everyone and make sure everyone can have fun by seeding it so that people are matched roughly against people of their own skill level? There is no reason why we can't work out a fair system in which this is the case. This is what I suggested last tournament for example https://i.ppy.sh/9bce8b1909Tokichii wrote:
This tournament is aimed to find out who are the best aus/nz players in multi. If you wish to have a fun tournament that is aimed for low ranks only, feel free to organise one! This is a competitive tournament where skill matters as much as having fun, sorry if it can't cater to everyone's expectations.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q353wzbx4gxh2 ... ol%231.rar[AirCoN] wrote:
I don't think I've played any of the maps in this mappool with their respective mods. Is there a mappack?
I have already sold my first born child so im sortedAloha wrote:
>mfw no coins left to play in tourny
Lets be really fucking honest here. If QLD has daylight savings there wouldn't be an issue in the first place Everything would just be normal and on the same timezone.EmeraldStar82 wrote:
For those who were wondering or not aware:
All matches are in GMT +10.
For all you in AEST and that have their matches on Friday or Saturday, your matches are an hour earlier.
AEDT ends Sunday 3am so on Sunday all you AEST people have their matches at your local time.
But srsly, fuk daylight savings. so confuzzling.
Nahh don't tell us how to live our fken LIFE[Cloud] wrote:
Lets be really fucking honest here. If QLD has daylight savings there wouldn't be an issue in the first place Everything would just be normal and on the same timezone.
M8 im from qldB-] wrote:
Nahh don't tell us how to live our fken LIFE[Cloud] wrote:
Lets be really fucking honest here. If QLD has daylight savings there wouldn't be an issue in the first place Everything would just be normal and on the same timezone.
Thanks for this m8, I was gonna miss the match if you didn't point this out.EmeraldStar82 wrote:
For those who were wondering or not aware:
All matches are in GMT +10.
For all you in AEST and that have their matches on Friday or Saturday, your matches are an hour earlier.
AEDT ends Sunday 3am so on Sunday all you AEST people have their matches at your local time.
But srsly, fuk daylight savings. so confuzzling.
Are we 9:30 melbourne time?Philantropist wrote:
Thanks for this m8, I was gonna miss the match if you didn't point this out.EmeraldStar82 wrote:
For those who were wondering or not aware:
All matches are in GMT +10.
For all you in AEST and that have their matches on Friday or Saturday, your matches are an hour earlier.
AEDT ends Sunday 3am so on Sunday all you AEST people have their matches at your local time.
But srsly, fuk daylight savings. so confuzzling.
Not too sure, since I'm in Sydney. In my timezone its supposed to be 9:30 and I'm pretty sure melborune is in the same timezone.Aloha wrote:
Are we 9:30 melbourne time?
I didn't post it until now because you changed the seeding format at the last second didn't you? I don't expect perfect match ups, but there should be some system to make sure they're not so one-sided there is no point in having the match, like Bauxe vs that 100K guy. I'm not sure what traditional seeding is, but it seems just like it was random. Another idea is to assign every adjacent player from the target on the player pp list a point value, say 20 points for the players next to the target, 19 points of the next two adjacent players etcetera.Happyjon wrote:
Looking at the graph I posted here, you will notice that roughly 70% of all players are between 3000 and 5000pp. These matches in round 1 shouldn't be too one-sided. With such a range of skill levels, it's very hard to have a format that caters to all the outliers. I'm really not sure how your suggested format would be implemented given that we only have 8 players below 3000pp, and even their range of skill levels is quite high. Also, any objections with the tournament format really should have been raised earlier when the thread was first posted, as it is far too late to change anything at this time.
That's a selfish attitude, deprive all other players of fair matches just so the top players can cruise through easily beating their opponents, so they only have to face each other at the end, so there's more suspense or something? Maybe that's your idea of a 'good' tournament, and it may be fun for you, but not for the low ranked players like vawlt pointed out.buny wrote:
a 5 digit rank will pretty much have no chance of winning. I don't see your logic in allowing them to play other low ranks as more deserving players are being knocked out earlier.
seeding is a means of avoiding scenarios like these.
as for your suggestion, this is basically the same as a low rank tournament with its own prize which could be hosted by somebody else
