Reol - Asymmetry

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hopperhtkn wrote:

[General]
Artist should be "れをる" same as Amamiya Yuko's Mapset
Only in Promotion movie has "Vocal : Reol" but it's not true Source like this

what makes you think his set is correct then? but if you're looking for a source.. then here's what it looks like in the actual cd p/3963623

[Kibboo's Insane]
01:25:632 - It's useless Inherited Point. You should remove this

[P A N's Extra]
00:10:632 - Useless Inherited Point
00:19:763 - ^
00:49:844 - ^
01:25:632 - ^
02:20:415 - ^
green lines, well.. pretty useless telling me now when i cant do anything about them.. but in any case its not that big of an issue to cause a dq anyways so yeah
hopperhtkn

Gaia wrote:

hopperhtkn wrote:

[General]
Artist should be "れをる" same as Amamiya Yuko's Mapset
Only in Promotion movie has "Vocal : Reol" but it's not true Source like this

what makes you think his set is correct then? but if you're looking for a source.. then here's what it looks like in the actual cd p/3963623

[Kibboo's Insane]
01:25:632 - It's useless Inherited Point. You should remove this

[P A N's Extra]
00:10:632 - Useless Inherited Point
00:19:763 - ^
00:49:844 - ^
01:25:632 - ^
02:20:415 - ^
green lines, well.. pretty useless telling me now when i cant do anything about them.. but in any case its not that big of an issue to cause a dq anyways so yeah
Actually her official introduced herself as "れをる" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RGctbcrfk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vebKoO__8A#
So Artist "れをる" Romanised Artist "Reol" is the most naturall form for japanese people.
However I can't say that souce is not correct. So yeah you can keep this artist name.
I think either source is probably fine. so in the next time , I hope you (and others) to use Japanese "れをる" when making her map! thank you.
Fycho
Hello, sorry for inconvenience but on behalf of the QAT, I must disqualify your map due to the following issues:

  1. Overall lack of quality in Extra: This Extra feels poorly constructed since all sections are almost equally jumpy. The flow is poor and positioning feels very random without logic. It’s fulled with random jumps which make the difficulty lack of structure, and it feels like it's trying to be difficult instead of reflect what's going on in the music, depite they have no problem when playing, they are totally playable. We think this difficulty needs a major overhaul. Examples will be listed below.
  2. Abuse of electronic drums: The electronic drums you use in the calm part especially like 02:57:589 -03:07:371 –are really weird and don’t fit the music at all.
  3. Some specific issues, which will be listed below as well.

Examples for overall lack of quality in Extra difficulty:
(Stuffs withouth detail explanation are random spaces/poor flow)
  1. 00:09:980 (6,7,8) -
  2. 00:22:697 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
  3. 00:23:676 (1,2,3) -
  4. 00:27:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
  5. 00:31:502 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  6. 00:34:111 (1,2,3,4) - (why do you use large space at such a calm part?)
  7. 00:47:154 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
  8. 00:54:002 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
  9. 00:52:371 (1,2,3) - (This kind of flow is a bit jerky)
  10. 01:05:741 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
  11. 01:46:828 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) -
  12. 01:54:980 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  13. 02:25:958 (5,1) -(why suddenly decrease the space?)
  14. 02:52:208 (9) – (why is the jump so large, not fitting the music)
  15. 03:13:893 (5,6,7,8) –
  16. 03:53:839 (2,3,4,5,6,7) –(Large space streams feels a bit overdone, considering the music)
  17. 03:54:328 (1,2) – This can be used to emphasize the drums, it’s good, but 03:54:654 (1,2) –feels bad, because the music turned to weakness, and the 03:54:654 - 03:54:736 - 03:54:817 - 03:54:899 –are of the same strength. http://puu.sh/i6JoW/e6b25f71e7.jpg
  18. ......


Please keep in mind that the above listed examples are just examples for the mentioned issues so that this generally applies to more than just these mentioned ones to avoid further disqualification.

Specific issues:
  1. Light grey combo color blends in with the BG, it would be nice if you change the combo1.
  2. Normal: 03:18:458 (1) - this slider was rather weird.
  3. pk's Hard's OD setting is way low.
  4. pk's Hard: 02:37:045 (2) - The random extended slider doesn't fit any sort of consistency within the map.
  5. pk's Hard: 03:07:371 (1) - 03:18:458 (1) - Even these sliders, it's rolling over strong beats. I recommend to end at 03:07:861 - 03:19:274 –


For further assistance, please contact with BNG members. Good luck.

###M

Edit: removed the BG issue after another discussion.
Qu1z
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fycho
tidied up the thread.

Please keep the thread clean, further useless or unhelpful posts will be removed.
Kinshara

One of the QAT wrote:

The bg is a girl licking a candied apple. The song is a tragic love. It doesnt even fit the tone of the vocals and song despite the lyrics.
Hahaha. This is ridiculous. As if most of the people here speak/ understand Japanese fluently enough to know what the song is about. People have been putting "moe girl" BGs to almost every Japanese song (even English ones). Perhaps, you have put backgrounds like those to some unfitting songs yourself, Fycho.
Lust
The comment on the disqualification post concerning the bg has been revoked. We apologize for any inconvenience!

Good luck towards requalification.
Flask
可以找我re
Cherry Blossom
lol. Please, guys you're not serious x)
I'll mod Extra soon. Don't KD if you're going to contest this DQ.

Extra



  • Comments about mentioned points (DQ post) :
  1. 00:09:980 (6,7,8) - what's wrong with this pattern ? the spacing is different and it gives acool impression and it is still readable even thought the second circle is overlapped by another one. This kind of technique is used everywhere and they play well.
    Is this random spacing or poor flow ? I'm pretty sure the larger distance between 00:10:143 (7,8) - is intentional to emphasize the hitsounds Gaia added to the objects, so is there a valid reason ?
  2. 00:22:697 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - uuuuuuh i don't agree here too, why do you consider this as a random spacing or a poor flow ? this pattern plays well and i don't really feel any problem when playing. Plus, concerning the distance between each circles, if i try to understand, the larger distance between 00:23:187 (5,6,7) - emphasizes the vocals ? maybe, i'm not Gaia but that's how i can interpret this pattern.
  3. 00:23:676 (1,2,3) - Yea the distance between each object is different, but not really noticeable when playing, it should be fixed and tidied.
  4. 00:27:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - here, i don't really get what is the issue here. This patterns plays well and naturally.
  5. 00:31:502 (1,2,3,4,5) - The spacing is different here, it should be tidied.
  6. 00:34:111 (1,2,3,4) - I agree that the spacing is a little large, but this diff is a challenging diff ? and the difficulty is consistent. Plus, you didn't mention these sliders 00:36:067 (3,4) - which have the same distance as the circles you mentionned. So, this reasoning is incomplete if you were going to mention all "overdone" spacings, but i see that the you said that you didn't mention all objects, but it could be better if you say something like "and many more on this part" etc. Never mind, the distance should be reduced.

    Awh well, i'm not supposed to contest this DQ reason I won't continue to give comments, i'll just let Gaia do it if he wants.

    _______________________________________________


    Mod :
  7. 00:27:426 (5) - Just a few pixels but, it could be better if there is an equal distance between 00:27:263 (4,5,1) - , because it could be misleading to some QATs and you might get DQed a second time, it will just make this pattern more tidy, i don't really think that the higher distance between 00:27:426 (5,1) - is intentional to emphasize the strong beat on 00:27:589 - am i wrong ?
  8. 00:46:013 - it could be better if you make this tick followed, because the current pattern just skip this tick. It's an Extra diff and the note density should be at its maximum. If you apply this suggestion, don't forget 02:05:415 (1,2) -
  9. 00:56:937 (3,4) - Here, i suggest you to add more distance between both. When i testplayed it, i just got a 100 on 00:57:100 (4) - because i played it too early because compared to the previous 1/2 sliders, the distance between 00:56:937 (3,4) - looks way lower, it's just an optical illusion. A higher distance between them could help the player to be more accurate. It's up to you, if you apply this suggestion, don't forget to apply on other patterns like this.
  10. 01:15:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern is surprising, 1/4 notes are not enough powerful, these sliders are "too much" for what the song provides, consider reducing a little the distance between them.
  11. 01:47:480 (3) - Not really a good idea, i mean, the distance between 01:47:317 (2,3) - is lower than 01:47:154 (1,2) - . And this note 01:47:480 (3) - should be emphasized because you can hear that it is a strong beat. So, there should be a higher distance between 01:47:317 (2,3) - . (at least, equal to 01:47:154 (1,2) - )
  12. 02:24:165 (3,4,5,6,7) - here, the transition between objects is a little weird, the spacing between each objects is different, and the motion is a little circular. Everything that makes this pattern not really comfortable to play, for an Insane diff player (not a challenging diff player). Find a solution which makes this pattern easier to play, at least, consistent spacing, or triangles etc.
  13. 03:48:295 (9,1) - it could be better if the sliderend is not overlapped with the stream. A higher distance between 03:48:295 (9,1) - could be more comfortable to play because there is already a higher distance between 03:47:806 (4,5) - and that means 03:48:458 (1) - plays like an antijump, and that's a little weird. You did it here 03:56:121 (10,1) - and that plays good.

As fycho said, there is a lot of things to tidy up like inconsistent spacing between objects, and i really doubt that it is intentional. I didn't say spacing changes.
I don't have time to handle the requalification process, sorry.
Good luck.
MetoA
This song was my favorite :cry: i couldn't stop listening to it, and also rip 332 and 290 pp plays i got ;-;
(well i can stil listen to it, it was more fun to play it when it was qualified idk why xD)
xsrsbsns
I've played Extra and 90% of the stuff mentioned by the DQ post are a non-issue in my humble opinion, most of the note placements listed are perfectly fine and seems like cherry picking. but it's already disqualified, so just good luck on the rerank.
pkk

Fycho wrote:

  1. pk's Hard's OD setting is way low. I don't think OD6 is very low, perhaps you mistook the normal diff's OD for the hard diff
  2. pk's Hard: 02:37:045 (2) - The random extended slider doesn't fit any sort of consistency within the map fixed
  3. pk's Hard: 03:07:371 (1) - 03:18:458 (1) - Even these sliders, it's rolling over strong beats. I recommend to end at 03:07:861 - 03:19:274 –7
    I left the first one as a transition from low density to high density objects. I reduced the length of the second one to the white tick
Thanks Fycho + other QATs

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95,196,242806,6,0,P|130:154|112:58,2,150,2|8|0,3:1|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
11,246,243621,1,2,3:1:0:0:
66,326,243784,1,8,0:0:0:0:
150,276,243947,6,0,B|186:255|223:270|223:270|257:256|257:256|306:280,1,150,2|2,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
314,286,244355,1,0,0:0:0:0:
314,286,244437,2,0,L|399:273,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
446,177,244763,1,0,3:0:0:0:
479,274,244926,1,0,3:0:0:0:
451,146,245089,1,8,0:0:0:0:
455,117,245415,6,0,L|464:39,2,75,8|0|0,0:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
349,172,245904,2,0,L|340:94,2,75,8|0|0,0:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
252,155,246393,2,0,P|202:136|152:137,1,75,8|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
88,165,246719,37,0,3:0:0:0:
126,258,246882,2,0,P|162:252|197:237,1,75,8|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
252,156,247208,1,0,3:0:0:0:
326,219,247371,2,0,L|409:231,2,75,8|0|0,0:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
393,131,247861,6,0,L|476:119,2,75,8|0|0,0:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
295,53,248350,1,8,0:0:0:0:
220,116,248513,2,0,L|245:200,1,75,0|0,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
340,155,248839,1,8,0:0:0:0:
255,202,249002,2,0,L|237:287,1,75,0|0,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
333,304,249328,6,0,P|382:274|421:272,1,75,8|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
492,297,249654,1,0,3:0:0:0:
464,203,249817,2,0,L|477:114,1,75,8|0,3:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
426,43,250143,1,0,3:0:0:0:
333,73,250306,5,8,0:0:0:0:
333,73,250469,1,8,0:0:0:0:
ithgyu
the construction of the extra diff does feel a bit eh, its kinda clunky, but then again there are so many maps that have been ranked the past few months which feel countless times worse than this. This is without a doubt bearable, and at least the map is consistent in its style throughout. It feels like nitpicking and i dont have anything against this, as long as its consistent, which i really dont think it is at all.

Basically what im trying to say is that yes the construction certainly isnt perfect, but at the same time i honestly dont believe that it clearly falls below the standard that requires the mapset to be dq'd
Charles445
Hi Gaia, been looking at the DQ post

  1. 00:09:980 (6,7,8) -
    5 and 7's stacking mirrors the stacking of the previous pattern. 8 is pointing down, which is the general movement from 7 to 8 (sideways movement is negligible here). 8 catches the player and gives them time to slow down for the drop-off to the next combo.
  2. 00:22:697 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
    Same style of stacking as before, 6 to 7 marks a change in direction, so emphasis on 6 is implied, as can be seen with it having a clap.
    2 to 3 is the first real jump of this part, since 1 to 2 is a drop-off. So, 3 has emphasis for being the start of the jumping pattern.
  3. 00:23:676 (1,2,3) -
    Nobody's actually going to be following that 1 slider, they'll be moving to the 2 before the 1 finishes. 1 to 2 is extremely soft of a jump so there's no emphasis there. So bam, jump to 3, catching with slider.
  4. 00:27:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
    Effectively the same stacking and angle changes as before. 1 to 2 is still a dropoff, so 2 to 3 is the first official jump. The angle can really be seen here since 3 4 5 is basically just a back and forth with increased spacing (note how the stacking is again, identical to previous instances). Angle changes at 6 to 7, like before. Emphasis on 3 and 6, like before.
  5. 00:31:502 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    Not sure what's being pointed out here, the change in spacing? It's constant 1/2 the spacing changes aren't going to mess people up, and that combo is all about spacing changes (4 to 5 to 6 being the prime example).
  6. 00:34:111 (1,2,3,4) - (why do you use large space at such a calm part?)
    Stylistic decision most likely. Worth noting those jumps happen after stacks, so the player has time to prepare.
  7. 00:47:154 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
    Stacking gimmick introduced at 1,2, carried out through 3,4 and 5,8 and 7,1 . Other than that, 7 to 8 is a different change in angle than a simple back and forth. Very similar to what's going on at 00:28:078 -
  8. 00:54:002 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
    Oh hey this is really cool
    Notice how the vocalist is calm at (2), then loud at (4), then calm at (6) again? The spacing reflects that, 2 - 3 is smaller, 4 to 5 is bigger, 5 to 6 is smaller.
  9. 00:52:371 (1,2,3) - (This kind of flow is a bit jerky)
    Sliders trivialize the movement on this pattern, you can basically stop at 2 earlier than normal because of the 1's leniency, making the blunt angle from 2 to 3 very easy.
  10. 01:05:741 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
    Not sure the problem here, 3 to 4 being too small? The vocalist isn't there at (4) and there is no kick.
  11. 01:46:828 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) -
    Again not sure what's being pointed out here, the angle from 5 to 1 to 2? It's reduced spacing so even a square won't be troublesome.
    4567 accelerated spacing, 1 is a catch slider (you have to move downwards anyway)
  12. 01:54:980 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    Spacing pairs, cmon, emphasis on white ticks, stacks make the jumps easier.
  13. 02:25:958 (5,1) -(why suddenly decrease the space?)
    It's a new combo... also it's sliders, if you put a slider down your spacing is reduced anyway. The only actually large spacing is 3 to 4 to 5., 3 to 4 only counting because the slider does not effect the movement (it's pointing in the same direction as the next object).
  14. 02:52:208 (9) – (why is the jump so large, not fitting the music)
    To keep 9 to 1 a powerful jump most likely
  15. 03:13:893 (5,6,7,8) –
    Don't know what's being pointed out here, I assume the spacing change? It goes well with the angle change if you ask me, it breaks out of its back and forth at that point.
  16. 03:53:839 (2,3,4,5,6,7) –(Large space streams feels a bit overdone, considering the music)
    I'm not one to talk about spaced out streams (I don't use them much and don't play maps with them often) so I'd have to leave this opinion to those who regularly indulge in it.
  17. 03:54:328 (1,2) – This can be used to emphasize the drums, it’s good, but 03:54:654 (1,2) –feels bad, because the music turned to weakness, and the 03:54:654 - 03:54:736 - 03:54:817 - 03:54:899 –are of the same strength. http://puu.sh/i6JoW/e6b25f71e7.jpg
    It's just as weak as the stream before it, then, because it's not actually mapping to the drum beat. It's mapping to the synth thing in the music.
    It's not being used to emphasize the drums, I'm certain the hitsounds were added in for consistency and not for emphasis.


Specific issues:
  1. Light grey combo color blends in with the BG, it would be nice if you change the combo1.
    Not too hard to see IMO
  2. Normal: 03:18:458 (1) - this slider was rather weird.
    Extra has one too, intentionally weird.
  3. pk's Hard's OD setting is way low.
    6 is hard for a low? Oh shit don't look at liquid then
  4. pk's Hard: 02:37:045 (2) - The random extended slider doesn't fit any sort of consistency within the map.
    You guys don't hear the scratching noise in the music? It's playing off of that moment. On my end it's in the left ear, so listen with that ear.
    It's not consistent, but it's definitely not random.
  5. pk's Hard: 03:07:371 (1) - 03:18:458 (1) - Even these sliders, it's rolling over strong beats. I recommend to end at 03:07:861 - 03:19:274 –
    They're being used to transition from points of nothing to points of something. It's not a bad recommendation but I'm sure the mapper wants to use them as transition devices.

So at this point you have a couple of options.

  1. You can accept the DQ and make some changes to the spaced out streams, and perhaps make some jumps easier here and there if you want as well as apply the guest map changes.
  2. You can contest the DQ, since most everything seems intentional / not a huge problem.


My recommendation is to not update the map, and get some players to evaluate the spaced out streams at the end of the map. That really seems to be the one big troublesome point.
Just make sure not to update so you can contest if you need.
J_8579

MetoA wrote:

This song was my favorite :cry: i couldn't stop listening to it, and also rip 332 and 290 pp plays i got ;-;
(well i can stil listen to it, it was more fun to play it when it was qualified idk why xD)
Maybe because you wanted to see it in your top ranks.
dqs01733
I've Read DQ post and Charles reply, here are my opinions on last 2 points.

  1. 03:53:839 (2,3,4,5,6,7) –(Large space streams feels a bit overdone, considering the music)
    I'm not one to talk about spaced out streams (I don't use them much and don't play maps with them often) so I'd have to leave this opinion to those who regularly indulge in it. I believe the spacing here is appropiate. I think it's the mapper's intention to reflect the synth thing so a 0.1x ds increase and make it linear is a good way to differentiate it from the other common 5s bursts
  2. 03:54:328 (1,2) – This can be used to emphasize the drums, it’s good, but 03:54:654 (1,2) –feels bad, because the music turned to weakness, and the 03:54:654 - 03:54:736 - 03:54:817 - 03:54:899 –are of the same strength. http://puu.sh/i6JoW/e6b25f71e7.jpg
    It's just as weak as the stream before it, then, because it's not actually mapping to the drum beat. It's mapping to the synth thing in the music.
    It's not being used to emphasize the drums, I'm certain the hitsounds were added in for consistency and not for emphasis. About this, I agree with Fycho. 03:54:328 (1,2,1,2,1) - This is constant 1/4 sound to follow the synths, but players single tap like 1/2, maybe it's not your intention, but the previous stream sets up an emphasization on the strong beats on 03:54:328 - , 03:54:491 - and 03:54:654 - with single tapping, so it makes it feel weird to also single tap on 03:54:817 - which has no strong beat. I believe that making 03:54:654 (1,2,1) - into a single stream fits better, because i feel like the tap on a stream start emphasize strong beat on 03:54:654 - , and then continue streaming feels more "continuous" like a 1/1 slider to reflect 1/1 gap between the strong beats. Instead of repeated 1/2 clicking which takes away all emphasization that 03:54:328 (1,2) - had

I hope it makes sense.
Kibbleru
most of it played fine to me as well, also the kicksliders I think fits well enough.

hopperhtkn

hopperhtkn wrote:

[Kibboo's Insane]
01:25:632 - It's useless Inherited Point. You should remove this

[P A N's Extra]
00:10:632 - Useless Inherited Point
00:19:763 - ^
00:49:844 - ^
01:25:632 - ^
02:20:415 - ^
Please fix those probrems when update.
And some mod for Extra diff

00:46:176 - Move whistle to 00:46:339 -
01:57:589 (1) - Add soft whistle
02:22:371 - Add drum finish
03:17:480 (3,5,7) - Add whistle?
03:18:458 - Drum-hitnormal makes it strong impression. I suggest remove addictions.
03:52:371 (1) - Add sliderwhistle
04:02:806 (1) - ^
04:08:350 - I feel weird this part. 04:08:676 (3,2,2) - X:76 Y160?
04:09:817 (1) - X:148 Y:80?
04:10:469 (2) - This circle makes me sad.. so hard to AIM. Move to X444 Y144?

GL for requalified!
Fatal015
I don't even care what anyone says really. I love this map. :)
Loctav
Hello!

We have received your message and want to make a decision on your attempt to contest this disqualification. Unfortunately, we saw no option to revert this decision being made, yet we saw some lacks of the initial disqualification post as it was not explaining sufficiently the core issue behind this. We want to help you understanding the actual problem more, so please read carefully! If you have questions, feel free to ask either p3n, ztrot or me.

  1. Fycho mentioned an overall lack of quality in the Extra, blaming a lack of flow and random beat placement. We beg to differ here. We do not precisely consider the beat placement by itself as random or bad in flow. Anyways, what we want to criticize is the lack of an actual concept. As we do not think that you did not know what you were doing or that your patterns are not well designed, we think that you partially ignored that this song is actually a mixture out of returning music samples, that reoccure again and again. However, you did not ignore that everywhere! We want to have beatmaps with a conceptional regonizeable pattern design that returns to a degree in slight variations at returning music sequences.
    Here is a positive and a negative example:
    1. 00:31:502 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - vs 00:36:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is how a concept works. (1,2) is stacked (2,3) is spaced, (3,4) is stacked, (5,6,7,8) have a similiar way of extending jumps or running patterns. Variation 1 appears on 00:31:502 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and another variation appears on 00:36:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -. They are not the same, but they are recognizeable and placed on the same music sequence.
    2. 01:15:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - vs 01:38:187 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - We might want to argue here that the synthesizer is not playing the exact same melody, but let's be real here: the instrument behaves comparable. Anyways, you decided to put kickslider on the one and a normal stream on the other. This is contradictive. This is a recognizeable and returning music sample that happens across the entire song. And because you did not decide for which option you want to go, this appears to be a lack of an actual concept.

    You want to make your usage of patterns more consistent. Once you put triangles on the melody, then sliders, then zig-zags, then you put slider streams on the melody, then on the vocals, then on the drums. I mean, you want to decide for one option. Or for one big overall concept. Your patterns itself might appear fine (not every, read the next point), but creativity doesn't mean to put everything you can figure into one beatmap. Make a nice selection of your most superb patterns that fit the song and put them together, decide for something and do not try too hard to put as much different stuff as possible. Rather try to figure a way to make "the same stuff differently", variate the patterns you used, modify them - be creative in a conceptional way!
  2. We want to see 02:45:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - changed. This is one of the patterns that really didn't work out well and really peaked out of the individual pattern designs which were overall polished, yet to be composed better (read above) Pay attention to the flow, try to not break it too often, use flow breaks sparingly. And do not place a kick-slider like that out of nowhere.
  3. Concurring to the original disqualification, we want to raise our concerns on captin's Extra, too. While the Extra has a connection to the music, we miss the connection to the music on this difficulty quite a lot. The extended sliders, that forces you to alternate, because why not; kicksliders because why not; triplets because why not. We are not saying that the map plays bad or is poorly mapped. It just does not listen to the music. Whereas the Extra has a multitude of concepts that were not composed together fluently, this one appears to have no real concept and is more of a compilation of difficult patterns for the sake of it. We believe that the Extra, if polished as we mentioned, would suffice for this mapset. Hence captin's Extra is a version that is more mapped for difficulty than correlation to the music. We miss how you did not follow the song more than just in a basic way, without attempting to represent the music in the best way possible. This can not be ranked and therefore we can not let it pass.


Anyways we want to say that the Easy, Normal and Hard are fine. The jump from Hard to Insane is quite large and a bit borderline, but whatever. P A N's Extra is a well made beatmap and turns out to look nice. Only the Extra and captin's Extra requires quite some rework.

Sorry for the inconveniences. I hope you can understand our concerns and we wish you good luck in getting this requalified. Make sure to consider all of our point and reconceptionalize your beatmap, so we can have this stellar piece of music soon in our Ranked Beatmaps section.
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