2015-03-08 11:23 Arphimigon: quick hour passed by
2015-03-08 11:29 Arphimigon: alright i tested and died at the jumps halfway in, so its playable definately
2015-03-08 11:58 Arphimigon: Crap i modded half of it then lost it
2015-03-08 11:59 Arphimigon: You dont mind if i do a PM mod instead?
2015-03-08 11:59 Arphimigon: Fixed, sorry
2015-03-08 12:00 Madni:
2015-03-08 12:00 Madni: How does a PM mod work?
2015-03-08 12:00 Arphimigon: So i PM you while modding, then i post a log onto the forums after
2015-03-08 12:00 Arphimigon: its the same, but you can respond while i mod also
2015-03-08 12:00 Madni: Sure
2015-03-08 12:00 Arphimigon: okay~
2015-03-08 12:00 Madni: Sure
2015-03-08 12:01 Arphimigon: General Note: It's playable mostly (95%) but there are quite a lot of simple design flaws
2015-03-08 12:01 Arphimigon: esp with sliders
2015-03-08 12:01 Madni: I imagined
2015-03-08 12:02 Arphimigon: This may get a little annoying just sayin
2015-03-08 12:02 Madni: Dude i just really want this map ranked
2015-03-08 12:02 Madni: Bring it all
2015-03-08 12:02 Arphimigon: 00:06:453 (3) - This slider doesn't make a straight line with combo 2
2015-03-08 12:02 Arphimigon: Move the bottom point down two spaces
2015-03-08 12:02 Madni: I see it jumps away
2015-03-08 12:03 Arphimigon: Its not the jump, its the fact it makes a straight line~
2015-03-08 12:03 Madni: Aight
2015-03-08 12:03 Madni: Yeah it pointed away
2015-03-08 12:03 Arphimigon: (mods will go crazy over this stuff)
2015-03-08 12:03 Madni: *
2015-03-08 12:03 Madni: Mkay
2015-03-08 12:03 Arphimigon: 00:11:253 (1) - I think i checked this earlier and the start didnt curve right
2015-03-08 12:03 Arphimigon: lemme check again
2015-03-08 12:04 Arphimigon: its a tad off
2015-03-08 12:04 Madni: One of the white points or just in general?
2015-03-08 12:04 Arphimigon: the point before the red node, the should be moved up once
2015-03-08 12:04 Arphimigon: one of the points only yeah
2015-03-08 12:05 Madni: Ok
2015-03-08 12:06 Arphimigon: 00:13:996 (1) - That end, you can tell there is a bumpy bit on it
2015-03-08 12:06 Arphimigon: (OCD incoming)
2015-03-08 12:06 Madni: Yeah after the the 'circle-thingy'
2015-03-08 12:06 Arphimigon: something similar to this http://puu.sh/gryzO/01bd1499bd.jpg would work
2015-03-08 12:07 Arphimigon: (the end of that could be curved more too)
2015-03-08 12:07 Madni: Ok i'll do some work on that\
2015-03-08 12:07 Arphimigon: 00:16:739 (1) - End of this isnt curved right either, but that'll take time to adjust to ill come back to it
2015-03-08 12:08 Arphimigon: 00:19:482 (1) - Middle point of this can be moved two spaces to the left for consistency though
2015-03-08 12:08 Arphimigon: and last white note before end, move right once and up once
2015-03-08 12:10 Madni: Check
2015-03-08 12:10 Arphimigon: 00:23:253 (4) - make into a proper curve to blanket 00:24:282 (5) -
2015-03-08 12:13 Madni: I moved 00:25:310 (7) - a little cause it seemed like it pointed into 00:24:624 (6) - in a wierd way
2015-03-08 12:13 Arphimigon: okay~
2015-03-08 12:13 Madni: :p
2015-03-08 12:13 Arphimigon: 00:28:739 (4) - Should have same distance snap as previous and next note imo
2015-03-08 12:14 Arphimigon: also for consistency, 00:28:396 (3,4,5) - should all be either straight or curved. But your choice there
2015-03-08 12:14 Madni: Oh lol, that's a little of a derp
2015-03-08 12:14 Madni: All straight
2015-03-08 12:14 Arphimigon: oh, even before that
2015-03-08 12:14 Arphimigon: 00:26:853 (2) - This is a weird 1/4 for a calm section
2015-03-08 12:15 Arphimigon: (1/4 mini mini jump)
2015-03-08 12:15 Arphimigon: I would CTRL-G 00:26:339 (1) - for it
2015-03-08 12:15 Madni: Is it the rythm being wrong, or the spacing
2015-03-08 12:15 Arphimigon: spacing
2015-03-08 12:15 Madni: K
2015-03-08 12:15 Madni: I flipped it
2015-03-08 12:15 Arphimigon: awesmoe
2015-03-08 12:15 Arphimigon: awesome* how2spell
2015-03-08 12:16 Madni: OMG YOU MADE THAT TOO
2015-03-08 12:16 Madni: FINALLY SOMEONE WHO DOES THAT TOO
2015-03-08 12:16 Madni: xD
2015-03-08 12:16 Arphimigon: lol
2015-03-08 12:16 Arphimigon: 00:31:482 (3) - could flow better from curve 2
2015-03-08 12:16 Arphimigon: pls nobody knows spelling anyways
2015-03-08 12:16 Madni: :p
2015-03-08 12:16 Madni: Is it pointing too upwards?
2015-03-08 12:16 Arphimigon: yes
2015-03-08 12:17 Madni: Ok moved it a little down
2015-03-08 12:17 Arphimigon: 00:38:682 (1) - Slider feels too clustered, make the end point spread out
2015-03-08 12:17 Arphimigon: from the other points
2015-03-08 12:19 Arphimigon: then move 00:39:882 (4) - up and left for a nicer curve
2015-03-08 12:19 Madni: Sure
2015-03-08 12:19 Arphimigon: also 00:41:424 (4) - can blanket nicer with combo 3 slider
2015-03-08 12:20 Arphimigon: x:72 and y:116 for that
2015-03-08 12:20 Madni: Should i move the first point, or the whole slider to those coordinates?
2015-03-08 12:20 Arphimigon: the whole slider
2015-03-08 12:21 Madni: Gotcha
2015-03-08 12:21 Arphimigon: also on that note
2015-03-08 12:21 Arphimigon: 00:40:396 (2) - can overlap combo 4 note from earlier
2015-03-08 12:21 Arphimigon: instead of being a weird half-overlap
2015-03-08 12:22 Madni: Yeah sure
2015-03-08 12:22 Madni: But since i moved 00:41:424 (4) - should i move 00:41:939 (5) - a little too, then?
2015-03-08 12:22 Arphimigon: yeah if you want
2015-03-08 12:22 Arphimigon: for consistency's sake
2015-03-08 12:23 Arphimigon: 00:56:853 (2) - Same distance snap for next and previous note would seem nice here
2015-03-08 12:23 Madni: Damn you have a keen eye
2015-03-08 12:23 Arphimigon: it gets worse...
2015-03-08 12:23 Madni: I love that
2015-03-08 12:23 Arphimigon: 00:57:367 (5) - move down one space for perfect square
2015-03-08 12:24 Arphimigon: ;-;
2015-03-08 12:24 Madni: Nono it's great
2015-03-08 12:24 Arphimigon: oki
2015-03-08 12:24 Madni: I really want this beatmap to be as close to perfect as possible
2015-03-08 12:24 Arphimigon: perfect? then ill have to point out the other things i didnt want to
2015-03-08 12:24 Arphimigon: ACTION goes back again
2015-03-08 12:24 Madni: I already used about 2-3 weeks on this map and i'm even more willing to use time on it now that before
2015-03-08 12:25 Madni: Yeah sure xP
2015-03-08 12:25 Arphimigon: like how this 00:16:053 (3) - overlaps with the long slider
2015-03-08 12:25 Arphimigon: the 2 note is fine, itll have disappeared way before
2015-03-08 12:26 Arphimigon: and since these all have the same DS 00:21:196 (2,3,4) - the first note should be the same DS with the slider too!
2015-03-08 12:26 Arphimigon: actually ill finish all the important bits first then go back for the little things
2015-03-08 12:27 Madni: Checked both
2015-03-08 12:27 Arphimigon: awesome
2015-03-08 12:27 Madni: Yeah sure
2015-03-08 12:27 Arphimigon: 00:59:253 (8,9,10,11) - Too much spacing for a calm-ish section
2015-03-08 12:27 Arphimigon: bring it down a tad, the jumps come in later ya
2015-03-08 12:28 Arphimigon: also 00:59:253 (8) - New Combo please
2015-03-08 12:29 Madni: Mkay
2015-03-08 12:29 Arphimigon: 01:01:310 (1,2,3,4) - This has 1) Spacing and 2) No flow. It needs EITHER ONE of the two
2015-03-08 12:29 Arphimigon: both is good, but only one is needed
2015-03-08 12:30 Arphimigon: (just the first note from the last four notes)
2015-03-08 12:30 Madni: So it should be spaced after 01:01:139 (4) - ?
2015-03-08 12:30 Arphimigon: either the spacing needs to be reduced, or it needs to flow
2015-03-08 12:30 Madni: Ah okay
2015-03-08 12:31 Arphimigon: it cant be a random jump
2015-03-08 12:31 Madni: And with the spacing that'll mean both 01:00:624 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:01:310 (1,2,3,4) -
2015-03-08 12:31 Arphimigon: i meant
2015-03-08 12:31 Arphimigon: the spacing of the jump
2015-03-08 12:31 Arphimigon: between the two
2015-03-08 12:31 Madni: Aha
2015-03-08 12:31 Madni: Sure
2015-03-08 12:32 Arphimigon: now we can get onto the faster bits yay
2015-03-08 12:33 Madni: :3
2015-03-08 12:33 Arphimigon: 01:06:452 (2) - Should blanket with combo 1 slider
2015-03-08 12:33 Arphimigon: then 01:07:138 (5) - should be fixed to overlap it again~
2015-03-08 12:34 Arphimigon: ACTION sees spaced streams
2015-03-08 12:34 Arphimigon: ACTION shudders
2015-03-08 12:34 Madni: Heh
2015-03-08 12:35 Madni: I think there's a total of 2 points in the map where the spacing goes up during a stream
2015-03-08 12:35 Madni: Thought it would give a great effect
2015-03-08 12:35 Arphimigon: it would if it were a bit more organised
2015-03-08 12:35 Arphimigon: its fine now though
2015-03-08 12:35 Arphimigon: not amazing, but good
2015-03-08 12:36 Arphimigon: 01:06:795 (4) - could be made into a straighter line? o3o
2015-03-08 12:36 Arphimigon: then 01:07:310 (6) - could overlap the end of it too after
2015-03-08 12:36 Madni: Ah
2015-03-08 12:36 Madni: Yeah done
2015-03-08 12:37 Arphimigon: 01:08:681 (4) - weirdly overlaps 2 note
2015-03-08 12:37 Arphimigon: 01:10:224 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - STREAMMMMMZZZZZ
2015-03-08 12:37 Madni: D
2015-03-08 12:37 Arphimigon: i personally think thats its -too- spaced earlier on, and that the spaced streams should get gradually more spaced along the song
2015-03-08 12:38 Arphimigon: but it doesnt matter too much
2015-03-08 12:38 Arphimigon: 01:13:310 (3) - isnt between 5 and 4 note properly
2015-03-08 12:38 Arphimigon: x:128 y:232
2015-03-08 12:39 Madni: Exactly where i already put it ~w~
2015-03-08 12:39 Arphimigon: o wat
2015-03-08 12:39 Arphimigon: keep it then~
2015-03-08 12:39 Madni: I can read ur mind
2015-03-08 12:39 Madni: Nono liek
2015-03-08 12:39 Arphimigon: ;-;
2015-03-08 12:39 Madni: I changed it to that coordinate before you send message :p
2015-03-08 12:40 Arphimigon: haha
2015-03-08 12:40 Arphimigon: 01:15:881 (2,3) - were these pixelly overlaps on purpose?
2015-03-08 12:40 Madni: Noh
2015-03-08 12:40 Arphimigon: change or keep them~ if the overlaps are the same between them both itll seem fine
2015-03-08 12:41 Arphimigon: Okay time to tell about the best mapping tool in history
2015-03-08 12:41 Madni: x.x
2015-03-08 12:41 Arphimigon: -convert slider to stream-
2015-03-08 12:41 Arphimigon: 01:18:967 (6,7,8,9,10) - Should be the same distance
2015-03-08 12:42 Arphimigon: you could make a curved slider, then convert it for pixel-fine streams
2015-03-08 12:42 Madni: Is it a command, or something manual?
2015-03-08 12:42 Arphimigon: its on the Compose section
2015-03-08 12:43 Arphimigon: highlight the slider, then convert to how many notes you want
2015-03-08 12:43 Madni: o
2015-03-08 12:43 Madni: m
2015-03-08 12:43 Madni: g
2015-03-08 12:43 Madni: x.x
2015-03-08 12:43 Arphimigon: its amazing for making amazing streams
2015-03-08 12:43 Arphimigon: and there you go 100% good streams confirmed
2015-03-08 12:43 Arphimigon: 01:19:481 (1,2,3) - Fix flow between this triplet and previous stream pls
2015-03-08 12:44 Madni: Yeah hold on
2015-03-08 12:44 Madni: Experimenting with that slider to stream thing
2015-03-08 12:44 Madni: Tool of the gods*
2015-03-08 12:44 that and *create polygon circles* are like
2015-03-08 12:44 Arphimigon: free stream and jump creators
2015-03-08 12:45 Madni: Yeah i used the polygon one a little
2015-03-08 12:45 Arphimigon: its hard at first
2015-03-08 12:45 Arphimigon: but then you memorize the important angles
2015-03-08 12:45 Madni: I used that for0 2:09:881 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
2015-03-08 12:45 Madni: 02:09:881 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
2015-03-08 12:45 Arphimigon: nice
2015-03-08 12:47 Madni: Aight fixed 01:19:481 (1,2,3) -
2015-03-08 12:47 Arphimigon: 01:20:852 (1) - needs MORE spacing between it and last note
2015-03-08 12:47 Arphimigon: awkward change of direction on these two last notes too 01:22:052 (11,12,1) -
2015-03-08 12:48 Madni: Placed 01:20:852 (1) - at x:40 y:16
2015-03-08 12:48 Arphimigon: thats good
2015-03-08 12:49 Arphimigon: using the stream converter you can spice up streams of different spacing too
2015-03-08 12:49 Arphimigon: since its that awesome
2015-03-08 12:49 Arphimigon: 01:23:167 (4,5,6,7) - i wouldnt overlap these end 4 notes
2015-03-08 12:49 Madni: Should they go out in a curve, or a straight line?
2015-03-08 12:49 Arphimigon: curve
2015-03-08 12:50 Madni: Left or right? :p
2015-03-08 12:50 Arphimigon: (make a 1/4 slider and convert it for awesomeness)
2015-03-08 12:50 Arphimigon: leftish
2015-03-08 12:50 Madni: Sure
2015-03-08 12:50 Madni: And should the first note start directly under it, or with the same distance snap, as the circles will be?
2015-03-08 12:51 Arphimigon: distance snap it
2015-03-08 12:51 Madni: Gotcha
2015-03-08 12:51 Arphimigon: make 5 notes from the slider, then delete the first one
2015-03-08 12:51 Arphimigon: that allows perfect distancing
2015-03-08 12:51 Madni: Ah i see
2015-03-08 12:52 Arphimigon: did you fix these? 01:22:310 (12,1) -
2015-03-08 12:52 Arphimigon: awkward direction change cri
2015-03-08 12:52 Madni: Yes
2015-03-08 12:52 Arphimigon: okay
2015-03-08 12:52 Madni: I made the curve to the right and upwards
2015-03-08 12:52 Arphimigon: now the important bit
2015-03-08 12:52 Arphimigon: 01:23:595 (1,2,3) - Unrankable reading
2015-03-08 12:52 Arphimigon: maybe in 2008 maps yea
2015-03-08 12:53 Arphimigon: stack it properly pls thnx
2015-03-08 12:53 Madni: They HAVE to be stacked, right?
2015-03-08 12:53 Madni: :p
2015-03-08 12:53 Arphimigon: yeah
2015-03-08 12:53 Arphimigon: that was a pain the first time i saw it
2015-03-08 12:53 Madni: +1
2015-03-08 12:53 Madni: Yeah i had something against it too but kept forgetting to change it
2015-03-08 12:53 Madni: x.x
2015-03-08 12:54 Arphimigon: lol
2015-03-08 12:54 Arphimigon: 01:25:138 (12) - not enough spacing
2015-03-08 12:54 Arphimigon: and THEN a weird change of flow to 01:25:310 (1) -
2015-03-08 12:54 Arphimigon: the flow is -okay- so you dont NEED to change it
2015-03-08 12:55 Arphimigon: 01:26:338 (4) - weird overlap with the end of combo 2 slider
2015-03-08 12:55 Madni: Where would it be optimal to put it, though?
2015-03-08 12:55 Arphimigon: 01:25:138 (12) - this? further right
2015-03-08 12:55 Madni: Hmm
2015-03-08 12:55 Arphimigon: try making a triangle withe end of the other sliders
2015-03-08 12:56 Madni: Yeah i did that
2015-03-08 12:56 Madni: Alright
2015-03-08 12:56 Arphimigon: awesome
2015-03-08 12:56 Arphimigon: 01:26:338 (4) - weird overlap with the end of combo 2 slider ya
2015-03-08 12:56 Arphimigon: if you move that, fix 01:26:681 (5) - again too
2015-03-08 12:56 Arphimigon: also give that combo 5 note a NC if i were you
2015-03-08 12:57 Madni: Douburu checkuh
2015-03-08 12:58 Arphimigon: I can spot two problems with 01:30:452 (1,2,3) -
2015-03-08 12:58 Arphimigon: different spacing on the notes, and that awkward end flow!
2015-03-08 12:58 Arphimigon: make the slider either a curve, or make the straight line be underneath and not overhanging
2015-03-08 12:59 Madni: Wait wait i should prolly use that puush thing
2015-03-08 12:59 Arphimigon: ^
2015-03-08 12:59 Madni: How do you use that?
2015-03-08 13:00 Arphimigon: ctrl + shift + f4
2015-03-08 13:00 Arphimigon: if you have puush ofc
2015-03-08 13:00 Arphimigon: osu screenshots are fine though
2015-03-08 13:00 Madni: That's F11
2015-03-08 13:00 Madni: Right?
2015-03-08 13:00 Arphimigon: (ctrl + shift + f12)
2015-03-08 13:00 Madni: Hmm
2015-03-08 13:00 Madni: Holdon
2015-03-08 13:00 Madni: Af
2015-03-08 13:01 Madni: I have it bound to F5
2015-03-08 13:01 Madni: my ctrl + shift + f12 doesn't do anything
2015-03-08 13:01 Arphimigon: oh
2015-03-08 13:01 Madni: x.x
2015-03-08 13:01 Arphimigon: try ctrl+shift+f5 if its bound to it then
2015-03-08 13:01 Arphimigon: my f12 works though
2015-03-08 13:02 Madni: wait
2015-03-08 13:02 Madni: Wyut
2015-03-08 13:02 Madni: OOOO
2015-03-08 13:02 Madni: Dere we go :3
2015-03-08 13:02 Arphimigon: ayy
2015-03-08 13:02 Arphimigon: >only 20% in map
2015-03-08 13:03 Madni: Already* 20% of map
2015-03-08 13:03 Arphimigon: ;-;
2015-03-08 13:03 Madni: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE
2015-03-08 13:03 Arphimigon: 01:31:310 (1,2,3,4,5) - Curve could be improved
2015-03-08 13:03 Madni: TOOL OF THE GODS
2015-03-08 13:04 Arphimigon: I could see this being made into a STAR 01:31:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - (use create polygon circles for this)
2015-03-08 13:05 Arphimigon: 01:34:052 (4,5,6,7,8) - curve can be improved, also it can blanket 01:33:881 (3) - if done correctly
2015-03-08 13:06 Madni: When i try to make polygons
2015-03-08 13:06 Madni: The distance is as if they where streams
2015-03-08 13:06 Madni: And not singletaps
2015-03-08 13:06 Madni: So it's incerdibly small
2015-03-08 13:06 Madni: incredibly
2015-03-08 13:06 Arphimigon: increase the distancing
2015-03-08 13:06 Arphimigon: or
2015-03-08 13:06 Arphimigon: hightlight them then go ctrl+shift+s
2015-03-08 13:07 Madni: Ermahgerd you have all the tools i used to need ;w;
2015-03-08 13:07 Arphimigon: okay, i think i should tell you all the godly tools rite
2015-03-08 13:07 Arphimigon: Create Polygon Circles and Convert Slider to Stream
2015-03-08 13:07 Arphimigon: Ctrl+Shift+S For spacing
2015-03-08 13:07 Arphimigon: Ctrl+Shift+R for Rotation
2015-03-08 13:08 Madni: Rotation i used
2015-03-08 13:08 Arphimigon: thats all you need
2015-03-08 13:08 Arphimigon: mastery of using them together though, thats hard
2015-03-08 13:08 Arphimigon: 01:36:024 (9,10) - flow pls
2015-03-08 13:09 Arphimigon: also if you CTRL-G a curve twice, the original will appear with the middle point where the middle of the curve is
2015-03-08 13:09 Arphimigon: that can be helpful for some things
2015-03-08 13:09 Arphimigon: (and 01:36:281 (1) - looks bad in the editor if you dont lel)
2015-03-08 13:10 Madni: 2 sec
2015-03-08 13:11 Madni: My editor is super laggy for some reason
2015-03-08 13:11 Arphimigon: relog
2015-03-08 13:11 Arphimigon: imma relog
2015-03-08 13:11 Madni: Yeah i'll just do the things you told me to and then relog so i don't lose the messages
2015-03-08 13:12 Arphimigon: ive got a log of it anyway (auto-logs are awesome)
2015-03-08 13:13 Madni: Aight
2015-03-08 13:13 Madni: 2 sec
2015-03-08 13:13 Madni: brb
2015-03-08 13:13 Madni: And all that
2015-03-08 13:13 Arphimigon: yaya
2015-03-08 13:14 Madni: Mkay
2015-03-08 13:14 Arphimigon: where were we
2015-03-08 13:14 Arphimigon: 01:36:024 (9,10) - dis flow doe ya
2015-03-08 13:15 Madni: Got that
2015-03-08 13:15 Arphimigon: 01:36:281 (1,2) - first curve overlaps second slider a tad
2015-03-08 13:15 Madni: While you find the next point i'll be geniune enough to give my poor lonely toilet a visit
2015-03-08 13:16 Arphimigon: i would move the beginning of slider 1 left
2015-03-08 13:17 Arphimigon: 01:37:652 (6) - bad looking slider imo
2015-03-08 13:18 Madni: Aight
2015-03-08 13:18 Arphimigon: 01:39:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - STREAMMMZZZZ
2015-03-08 13:19 Arphimigon: 01:41:767 (1) - Fix curve
2015-03-08 13:19 Madni: 01:37:652 (6) - LIke this instead? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2864667
2015-03-08 13:19 Arphimigon: also make 01:41:595 (6) - point towards next slier
2015-03-08 13:19 Arphimigon: no
2015-03-08 13:19 Arphimigon: thats a bad idea
2015-03-08 13:20 Arphimigon: make it just a simple curve point towards the next slider
2015-03-08 13:21 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2864680 Yeah?
2015-03-08 13:21 Arphimigon: yeah
2015-03-08 13:21 Arphimigon: that works
2015-03-08 13:23 Madni: I think i have one of your next points finished already
2015-03-08 13:24 Arphimigon: uh
2015-03-08 13:24 Arphimigon: ACTION was daydreaming lmao
2015-03-08 13:24 Madni: 01:46:224 (9,10) -
2015-03-08 13:24 Madni: Overlap
2015-03-08 13:24 Madni: Changed it to https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2864692
2015-03-08 13:24 Arphimigon: i was thinking of it, but it didnt seem bad
2015-03-08 13:24 Arphimigon: thats better yah
2015-03-08 13:24 Madni:
2015-03-08 13:24 Arphimigon: 01:47:595 (2) - the overlap is fine
2015-03-08 13:24 Arphimigon: the end, is not.
2015-03-08 13:25 Arphimigon: this looks nicer http://puu.sh/grCwS/62d7dafe5c.jpg
2015-03-08 13:26 Arphimigon: changing from curve to straight here 01:51:367 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - is fine, but not when the flow is edgy
2015-03-08 13:26 Arphimigon: use the god tools rite
2015-03-08 13:27 Madni: So 01:51:452 (1,2,3,4) - should be pushed a little upwards?
2015-03-08 13:27 Arphimigon: 01:55:481 (1,2,3,4) - Make all straight, or all curved
2015-03-08 13:27 Arphimigon: yeah
2015-03-08 13:27 Arphimigon: up
2015-03-08 13:28 Arphimigon: (for some reason i think OD8.5 suits the map, but i question the timing since i seem to be hitting notes late)
2015-03-08 13:29 Madni: Huh
2015-03-08 13:29 Madni: Maybe it's the offset
2015-03-08 13:29 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2864710
2015-03-08 13:29 Madni: I had some small problems with that
2015-03-08 13:29 Madni: Here's the stream tho
2015-03-08 13:29 Arphimigon: thats
2015-03-08 13:29 Arphimigon: fairly better
2015-03-08 13:29 Madni: I had Alumetorz play it, and he just smacked HR on, but he didn't seem to notice anything
2015-03-08 13:30 Arphimigon: I tried on HRHD too
2015-03-08 13:30 Arphimigon: fkn jumps halfway
2015-03-08 13:30 Madni: Wut
2015-03-08 13:30 Arphimigon: nomod or HR just as hard
2015-03-08 13:30 Madni: Are you playing on like a smurf? xP
2015-03-08 13:30 Arphimigon: wat
2015-03-08 13:30 Arphimigon: you do realise
2015-03-08 13:31 Arphimigon: its only that jump section in the middle that makes the stars go up
2015-03-08 13:31 Arphimigon: rite
2015-03-08 13:31 Madni: It's like
2015-03-08 13:31 Madni: Yeah i know
2015-03-08 13:31 Madni: But it's nothing with that
2015-03-08 13:31 Madni: You frickin' HDHR while you joined 3 months ago
2015-03-08 13:31 Madni: THat's pretty insane
2015-03-08 13:31 Arphimigon: wat
2015-03-08 13:31 Arphimigon: i cant DT
2015-03-08 13:31 Arphimigon: anything above 200bpm kills me
2015-03-08 13:31 Madni: But you can AR10
2015-03-08 13:32 Madni: AR10 is my worst nightmare ._.
2015-03-08 13:32 Arphimigon: ar10? thats just natural reaction i think
2015-03-08 13:32 Arphimigon: ar10 is kinda slow imo
2015-03-08 13:32 Madni: Meh
2015-03-08 13:32 Madni: Anyways
2015-03-08 13:32 Arphimigon: more modding rite
2015-03-08 13:32 Madni: Yeh
2015-03-08 13:32 Arphimigon: STREAM
2015-03-08 13:32 Arphimigon: you gonna keep it the same?
2015-03-08 13:32 Arphimigon: 01:39:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
2015-03-08 13:32 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2864710
2015-03-08 13:32 Madni: o
2015-03-08 13:32 Madni: That one
2015-03-08 13:33 Madni: Yeah i think so
2015-03-08 13:33 Madni: What could be changed about it?
2015-03-08 13:33 Arphimigon: this note 01:39:795 (2) -
2015-03-08 13:33 Arphimigon: this aint freedom dive rite
2015-03-08 13:33 Madni: Notes overlapping in streams isn't good i suppose
2015-03-08 13:33 Arphimigon: also 01:41:595 (6) - should point towards next note
2015-03-08 13:33 Madni: Already got that
2015-03-08 13:33 Arphimigon: ah
2015-03-08 13:35 Madni: I changed 01:39:795 (2) - so it's not spikey anymore
2015-03-08 13:35 Arphimigon: awesome
2015-03-08 13:35 Arphimigon: also i think 01:43:138 (1,2,3,4) - has weird spacing
2015-03-08 13:35 Arphimigon: it might just be me and crap jumping though
2015-03-08 13:35 Arphimigon: and the weird pixel overlap of 01:44:338 (8) - and note 6
2015-03-08 13:36 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2864737
2015-03-08 13:36 Arphimigon: could work for now
2015-03-08 13:37 Arphimigon: 01:44:852 (2) - should be in a straight line with combo 1 slider too
2015-03-08 13:37 Madni: Fixed overlap too
2015-03-08 13:37 Arphimigon: (this is OCD mapping gg)
2015-03-08 13:37 Arphimigon: 01:45:538 (5) - Fix this overlap too?
2015-03-08 13:37 Madni: Hehe
2015-03-08 13:38 Arphimigon: either all straight or all curved for consistency (i swear we done this already) 01:55:481 (1,2,3,4) -
2015-03-08 13:38 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2864743
2015-03-08 13:38 Madni: Would this work then?
2015-03-08 13:38 Arphimigon: what time?
2015-03-08 13:39 Arphimigon: oh
2015-03-08 13:39 Arphimigon: too much spacing increase to note 6 then unless you change that too
2015-03-08 13:39 Arphimigon: just make slider 5 DIRECTLY underneath 4's end
2015-03-08 13:39 Arphimigon: not pixel partial
2015-03-08 13:39 Madni: Oh it wasn't directl;y
2015-03-08 13:39 Madni: Derp
2015-03-08 13:40 Arphimigon: ya derp
2015-03-08 13:40 Madni: x.x
2015-03-08 13:40 Madni: Fixed it back
2015-03-08 13:40 Arphimigon: teach me to read 01:58:910 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) -
2015-03-08 13:40 Arphimigon: (inb4 play on EZ)
2015-03-08 13:40 Arphimigon: 01:59:595 (7) - NC here
2015-03-08 13:41 Arphimigon: 02:01:310 (3) - should make straight line with last two notes too
2015-03-08 13:41 Arphimigon: dis bump 02:05:767 (1) -
2015-03-08 13:42 Arphimigon: 02:06:452 (5) - NC here too
2015-03-08 13:42 Arphimigon: #speedmodding
2015-03-08 13:42 Arphimigon: 02:07:824 (7) - Imo bad flow here
2015-03-08 13:44 Arphimigon: 02:09:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - sudden small spacing to WTF SPACING isnt really good. Make the beginning either have a larger increase of spacing between notes or make the larger ones get gradually bigger
2015-03-08 13:46 Arphimigon: also, since those jumps are fairly bigger than the rest of the map, i'd suggest 1/2 NCs
2015-03-08 13:48 Arphimigon: (rip BG) Should be higher quality ;-;
2015-03-08 13:49 Madni: :p
2015-03-08 13:49 Arphimigon: "Dark anime girl"
2015-03-08 13:49 Madni: Yeah
2015-03-08 13:49 Arphimigon: best name everrrr
2015-03-08 13:49 Madni: Had to name it quickly - it was getting late
2015-03-08 13:50 Madni: Still that's my first storyboard though
2015-03-08 13:50 Arphimigon: 02:13:824 (4) - same distance snap before and after
2015-03-08 13:50 Arphimigon: I cant even SB for anything
2015-03-08 13:50 Madni: And the chorus BG was also my first picture editing
2015-03-08 13:50 Arphimigon: nicc
2015-03-08 13:51 Arphimigon: 02:21:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - god tools pls
2015-03-08 13:51 Arphimigon: do you use followpoints?
2015-03-08 13:51 Madni: While mapping?
2015-03-08 13:51 Madni: Yes
2015-03-08 13:52 Arphimigon: good
2015-03-08 13:52 Arphimigon: 02:25:824 (2) - should be in the follow point of 4 and 5
2015-03-08 13:52 Arphimigon: because OCD
2015-03-08 13:53 Arphimigon: 02:37:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - STREAMZ
2015-03-08 13:53 Arphimigon: 02:27:024 (1,2,3,4,5) - change or keep, your opinion there
2015-03-08 13:54 Arphimigon: 02:35:424 (2,3,4,5) - Imo weird spacing in these 4 notes
2015-03-08 13:56 Arphimigon: 02:42:624 (6) - Dis overlap. You know what I can see here.
2015-03-08 13:56 Arphimigon: also 02:44:510 (7) - imo should be infront of previous slider
2015-03-08 13:56 Arphimigon: 02:47:595 (5) - NC
2015-03-08 13:57 Arphimigon: Also I would resubmit just incase the file goes corrupt for whatever reason
2015-03-08 13:57 Arphimigon: ACTION goes to update
2015-03-08 13:58 Madni: :p
2015-03-08 13:58 Arphimigon: >gone up 0.01 stars
2015-03-08 13:58 Arphimigon: o
2015-03-08 13:58 Arphimigon: gonna retest
2015-03-08 13:58 Madni: ERMAHGERD
2015-03-08 13:58 Madni: Was about to say the same
2015-03-08 13:58 Madni: xP
2015-03-08 13:58 Arphimigon: i dont like editor testing because you cant die ;-;
2015-03-08 13:59 Madni:
2015-03-08 14:00 Arphimigon: >died on first stream
2015-03-08 14:00 Arphimigon: rip HD streams
2015-03-08 14:00 Madni: Spaced streams with HD is the worst
2015-03-08 14:00 Arphimigon: mayyybe nomod would be better than HRHD rite
2015-03-08 14:00 Madni: xP
2015-03-08 14:00 Arphimigon: you know them moments
2015-03-08 14:00 Arphimigon: when you miss the first note
2015-03-08 14:01 Madni: x.x
2015-03-08 14:04 Arphimigon: its much better in the first 1/3 now
2015-03-08 14:04 Arphimigon: gotta test the second half (if i can get there) to see for any playability flawwzzz
2015-03-08 14:05 Madni:
2015-03-08 14:05 Arphimigon: yay got past 1/2
2015-03-08 14:05 Arphimigon: first break
2015-03-08 14:06 Arphimigon: also THE JUMPS
2015-03-08 14:06 Arphimigon: there are so many more
2015-03-08 14:06 Madni: woot
2015-03-08 14:07 Madni: Yeah they get quite hectic
2015-03-08 14:07 Arphimigon: wow uh
2015-03-08 14:07 Arphimigon: that was
2015-03-08 14:07 Arphimigon: not
2015-03-08 14:07 Arphimigon: allowed
2015-03-08 14:08 Arphimigon: excuse my bad ar9.3 acc but http://puu.sh/grENo/ed54d98374.jpg THE TRIPLETS!?
2015-03-08 14:08 Arphimigon: anyway back to modding
2015-03-08 14:08 Madni: I think i know which ones you are referring to
2015-03-08 14:08 Madni: 05:32:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2015-03-08 14:08 Arphimigon: seriously that was the most troll thing ive seen in ages on a map which was quite nice doe
2015-03-08 14:09 Arphimigon: yes
2015-03-08 14:09 Arphimigon: them
2015-03-08 14:09 Arphimigon: pls nerf
2015-03-08 14:09 Madni: Hah. sure :3
2015-03-08 14:09 Arphimigon: 02:53:595 (3,4,5,6,7) - god tools pls
2015-03-08 14:10 Arphimigon: the curve looks weird
2015-03-08 14:10 Arphimigon: what is flow 02:54:452 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2015-03-08 14:11 Arphimigon: fix this curve to flow into the increased distance part also 02:56:510 (9,10,11,12,13,1) -
2015-03-08 14:11 Arphimigon: 03:04:738 (3,4,5,6) - No comment.
2015-03-08 14:12 Arphimigon: 03:05:424 (1) - Change this slider to blanket note 2 (its better than moving note 2)
2015-03-08 14:13 Arphimigon: 03:08:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Too close to slider 4 (the red one)
2015-03-08 14:13 Arphimigon: 03:16:652 (4,1,2) - Awkward change 1
2015-03-08 14:13 Arphimigon: 03:16:910 (3,4,1) - Awkward change 2
2015-03-08 14:14 03:17:767 (1,2,3,4) - No comment here either */me runs*
2015-03-08 14:15 Arphimigon: 03:24:624 (2,3,4,5,6) - God tools, also how2read the other notes overlapping it pls teach
2015-03-08 14:15 Arphimigon: This section 03:27:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Is way too clustered
2015-03-08 14:15 Arphimigon: Normally people would tell you to change this 03:30:281 (2,3) - But i played it fine, so keep it unless anyone else objects
2015-03-08 14:17 Arphimigon: 03:45:195 (1,2,3,4,5) - God tools
2015-03-08 14:17 Arphimigon: 04:00:281 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I would nerf this
2015-03-08 14:17 Arphimigon: 04:03:367 (4) - Pixel overlaps suck
2015-03-08 14:18 Arphimigon: 04:06:795 (10,11) - Move down more, and change end note position
2015-03-08 14:18 Arphimigon: 04:08:167 (8,9,10) - Space further from previous stream
2015-03-08 14:18 Arphimigon: okay ill stop for now until you catch up
2015-03-08 14:19 Madni: Heh
2015-03-08 14:25 Madni: Ok
2015-03-08 14:25 Madni: Did all of the above
2015-03-08 14:25 Arphimigon: awesome
2015-03-08 14:26 Arphimigon: does it play any better?
2015-03-08 14:26 Arphimigon: 04:09:024 (4,5,6,7,8) - Not straight ayy
2015-03-08 14:26 Madni: Better flow
2015-03-08 14:26 Arphimigon: awesome
2015-03-08 14:26 Arphimigon: 04:11:938 (9) - Freedom Dive
2015-03-08 14:27 Arphimigon: 04:12:452 (15) - Same here
2015-03-08 14:27 Arphimigon: ofc those bumps are okay, just most wont like them
2015-03-08 14:27 Arphimigon: also if i were you i would Ctrl+shift+a and fix those problems that come up too
2015-03-08 14:28 Arphimigon: (if its a snap problem, just shuffle the the note a tad on the timeline)
2015-03-08 14:29 Arphimigon: 04:29:082 (1) - Change dis slider pls
2015-03-08 14:29 Arphimigon: something like this: http://puu.sh/grG2Y/7076e0c6a9.jpg
2015-03-08 14:29 Arphimigon: ayy submito
2015-03-08 14:30 Arphimigon: >5.99 star
2015-03-08 14:30 Arphimigon: o
2015-03-08 14:30 Arphimigon: must be me telling you to nerf all the streams
2015-03-08 14:30 Madni: Nah it's mostly some jumps i think
2015-03-08 14:31 Arphimigon: awesome
2015-03-08 14:31 Arphimigon: 04:40:053 (1) - Fix the start curve on this too
2015-03-08 14:31 Arphimigon: 04:41:082 (2) - eww clustery
2015-03-08 14:31 Arphimigon: 04:43:310 (2) - Can make a line with Combo 1 04:42:453 (4) -
2015-03-08 14:31 Arphimigon: 04:43:310 (2) - Can make a line with Combo 1 and* 04:42:453 (4) -
2015-03-08 14:32 Arphimigon: 04:48:282 (7) - Line with 5 and 6 pls
2015-03-08 14:32 Arphimigon: 04:52:053 (3) - Pixel overlap...
2015-03-08 14:32 Arphimigon: 04:53:082 (4) - same as above
2015-03-08 14:32 Arphimigon: 04:58:567 (4) - Clustery slider
2015-03-08 14:33 Arphimigon: 04:59:253 (5) - NC pls
2015-03-08 14:33 Arphimigon: 05:00:625 (1,2,3,4,5) - Seriously?
2015-03-08 14:33 Arphimigon: 05:04:739 (6) - NC again
2015-03-08 14:34 Arphimigon: 05:06:110 (9,10) - Overlaps!
2015-03-08 14:34 Arphimigon: #walloftext
2015-03-08 14:34 Madni:
2015-03-08 14:35 Arphimigon: 05:12:967 (1,2,3,4,5) - Nope.avi
2015-03-08 14:36 Arphimigon: 05:13:652 (7,8,9) - Give me reading of this over the last stream
2015-03-08 14:36 Arphimigon: 05:14:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - NERF
2015-03-08 14:36 Arphimigon: 05:16:395 (5,6,7) - Should overlap combo 1 slider start
2015-03-08 14:37 Arphimigon: 05:22:567 (3,4) - Move up 2 spaces and left 2 spaces to make triangle with combo 1 note
2015-03-08 14:37 Arphimigon: 05:22:909 (5,6,1) - Flow is good, until that end note where the spacing lowers too much
2015-03-08 14:37 Arphimigon: Okay ill let you catch up again
2015-03-08 14:44 Madni: AIght
2015-03-08 14:44 Arphimigon: ayy lmao
2015-03-08 14:45 Arphimigon: 5.98 stars!?
2015-03-08 14:45 Madni: Goodness gracious
2015-03-08 14:45 Arphimigon: inb4 after we finish attempt to buff to 6 star again
2015-03-08 14:45 Madni: Nah no need to
2015-03-08 14:45 Madni: But i might need you to
2015-03-08 14:45 Madni: Explain the koduso system to me
2015-03-08 14:45 Arphimigon: ha
2015-03-08 14:45 Madni: It seems that you know about alot
2015-03-08 14:45 Arphimigon: now?
2015-03-08 14:46 Madni: kudosu
2015-03-08 14:46 Madni: Yeah why not
2015-03-08 14:46 Madni: Just as a 'break'
2015-03-08 14:46 Arphimigon: basically someone mods your map
2015-03-08 14:46 Arphimigon: and posts on your forum for that map
2015-03-08 14:46 Madni: Like you are atm
2015-03-08 14:46 Arphimigon: if its a good mod, you can give kudos for that mod
2015-03-08 14:46 Madni: Uhuh
2015-03-08 14:46 Arphimigon: the modder will get +1 kudos (or two if the map hasnt been modded in over a month)
2015-03-08 14:47 Arphimigon: and the map gets +1/2 star rating accordingly
2015-03-08 14:47 Arphimigon: so its a win-win
2015-03-08 14:47 Madni: And i need 12 star rating for bubbling
2015-03-08 14:47 Arphimigon: 14
2015-03-08 14:47 Madni: x_x
2015-03-08 14:48 Arphimigon: also you need a very good standard of mapping for people to want to bubble your map
2015-03-08 14:48 Arphimigon: and even i cant give that to ya
2015-03-08 14:49 Arphimigon: is the whole of the secon half meant to be half bpm?
2015-03-08 14:49 Madni: Not all of it is
2015-03-08 14:49 Madni: Only the slow partr
2015-03-08 14:49 Arphimigon: uh
2015-03-08 14:49 Arphimigon: no
2015-03-08 14:49 Arphimigon: the whole second half is
2015-03-08 14:49 Madni: Bpm goes up again at 5:12
2015-03-08 14:49 Arphimigon: not here.
2015-03-08 14:49 Arphimigon: you
2015-03-08 14:49 Arphimigon: removed the point
2015-03-08 14:50 Madni: I have a timing point at offset 312967
2015-03-08 14:50 Arphimigon: wait
2015-03-08 14:50 Arphimigon: i didnt finish updating
2015-03-08 14:50 Arphimigon: my bad
2015-03-08 14:50 Madni: I never removed it anyways
2015-03-08 14:50 Arphimigon: there fixed
2015-03-08 14:50 Madni: Placing the timing points was one of the first things i did :p
2015-03-08 14:51 Arphimigon: ha
2015-03-08 14:51 Arphimigon: 05:19:481 (8,9,10) - bad flow
2015-03-08 14:51 Arphimigon: CTRL-G them
2015-03-08 14:52 Madni: 70% brah
2015-03-08 14:52 Arphimigon: 05:21:538 (5) - Make this curve more down pls
2015-03-08 14:52 Arphimigon: yeahhhh almost 3/4 in
2015-03-08 14:52 Arphimigon: (then i go back and point out the annoying bi- nvrmnd)
2015-03-08 14:52 Madni:
2015-03-08 14:52 Arphimigon: 05:23:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Give me reading
2015-03-08 14:53 Madni: I need to redo that?
2015-03-08 14:53 Arphimigon: nah
2015-03-08 14:53 Arphimigon: im just
2015-03-08 14:53 Arphimigon: trying to fix this triangle 05:25:824 (4,5,6) -
2015-03-08 14:54 Arphimigon: move 05:25:995 (5) - to x:396 y:264
2015-03-08 14:54 Arphimigon: that should work
2015-03-08 14:54 Arphimigon: then either put 05:26:338 (7) - on 4, or in the center of the triangle
2015-03-08 14:55 Arphimigon: 05:27:195 (3) - Overlaps combo 1 slider weirdly
2015-03-08 14:55 Arphimigon: 05:28:053 (1,2,3) - not sure about flow here. keep or remove your choice
2015-03-08 14:56 Arphimigon: 05:29:767 (2) - End of this can overlap 6 fully, not partially
2015-03-08 14:56 Arphimigon: 05:30:109 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Jumps!
2015-03-08 14:56 Arphimigon: because of the symettry, i would center the start of 05:32:167 (9) -
2015-03-08 14:57 Arphimigon: also NC that slider
2015-03-08 14:57 Arphimigon: ...
2015-03-08 14:57 Arphimigon: 05:32:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF
2015-03-08 14:57 Arphimigon: OMG NERF IT!
2015-03-08 14:59 Madni: 05:29:767 (2) - ?
2015-03-08 14:59 Arphimigon: the end can overlap the combo 6 not
2015-03-08 14:59 Arphimigon: note*
2015-03-08 14:59 Arphimigon: its only doing it partially
2015-03-08 14:59 Arphimigon: looks bad
2015-03-08 15:00 Madni: Can you highlight what combo 6 note? Cause i don't seem to fully get you
2015-03-08 15:00 Arphimigon: 05:29:252 (6) -
2015-03-08 15:01 Madni: Wha
2015-03-08 15:01 Madni: Send a pic or something
2015-03-08 15:01 Arphimigon: uh
2015-03-08 15:01 Arphimigon: http://puu.sh/grHQb/c3127c95f5.jpg
2015-03-08 15:01 Arphimigon: should be http://puu.sh/grHR5/bd160b30f3.jpg
2015-03-08 15:02 Madni: I don't have that note x.x
2015-03-08 15:02 Madni: O
2015-03-08 15:02 Arphimigon: o
2015-03-08 15:02 Madni: 2 sec
2015-03-08 15:02 Arphimigon: you changed the part?
2015-03-08 15:02 Arphimigon: i seeeeee
2015-03-08 15:03 Arphimigon: i seeeeeeeeeeee
2015-03-08 15:03 Arphimigon: *ahem*
2015-03-08 15:03 Arphimigon: 05:32:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - NERF
2015-03-08 15:03 Arphimigon: NERF FOR YOUR LIFE
2015-03-08 15:04 Arphimigon: i can do it now
2015-03-08 15:04 Arphimigon: but as a surprise, itll catch anyone off guard
2015-03-08 15:04 Arphimigon: 05:36:024 (9) - same distance snap as before and after notes pls
2015-03-08 15:05 Arphimigon: 05:40:395 (1,2) - note 2 should blanket slider 1
2015-03-08 15:05 Arphimigon: 05:46:395 (3,4,5,6,7) - Stream could be improved
2015-03-08 15:06 Arphimigon: 05:54:109 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - STREAMZZZZ
2015-03-08 15:06 Arphimigon: 05:57:367 (3,4,5,6,7) - Improve curve pls
2015-03-08 15:07 Arphimigon: 06:00:967 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above
2015-03-08 15:07 Arphimigon: also
2015-03-08 15:07 Arphimigon: 80% HERE WE GO!
2015-03-08 15:07 Madni: Aight i nerfed 05:32:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2015-03-08 15:07 Arphimigon: 06:01:652 (7,8,9) - lol i cant even see note 8
2015-03-08 15:08 Arphimigon: submit so i can see?
2015-03-08 15:08 Arphimigon: inb4 needs renerf
2015-03-08 15:09 Madni: Yeah lemme do all the above
2015-03-08 15:12 Madni: Rip stars
2015-03-08 15:12 Madni: Lel
2015-03-08 15:12 Madni: Speaking of stars
2015-03-08 15:12 Madni: Hue
2015-03-08 15:12 Arphimigon: >5.93
2015-03-08 15:12 Arphimigon: its just gonna go down
2015-03-08 15:13 Madni: Euck i dunno
2015-03-08 15:13 Madni: I think it's really fawking ugly now
2015-03-08 15:13 Arphimigon: wow
2015-03-08 15:13 Arphimigon: you changed it to
2015-03-08 15:13 Arphimigon: ...a star!?
2015-03-08 15:13 Madni: Yeah
2015-03-08 15:13 Madni: Never saw stream in the shape of a star so i felt like giving it a go
2015-03-08 15:13 Madni: Now i see why i never saw it
2015-03-08 15:13 Arphimigon: I have like 10 ways you could change it, never expected that
2015-03-08 15:13 Arphimigon: imo its not bad
2015-03-08 15:14 Madni: Really? :s
2015-03-08 15:14 Arphimigon: i would suggest one changed
2015-03-08 15:14 Arphimigon: change*
2015-03-08 15:14 Arphimigon: decrease the spacing on the triplets themselves
2015-03-08 15:15 Arphimigon: like so: http://puu.sh/grIFM/4f2be1ef2c.jpg
2015-03-08 15:15 Arphimigon: but how you wanna do it
2015-03-08 15:16 Arphimigon: you need a preview point too
2015-03-08 15:17 Arphimigon: also if you want a perfect star, copy one triplet then paste it and rotate 60 degrees
2015-03-08 15:17 Arphimigon: just do that 6 times
2015-03-08 15:17 Arphimigon: itll make a perfect star
2015-03-08 15:17 Madni: Did this
2015-03-08 15:18 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2865142
2015-03-08 15:18 Madni: Alot prettier imo
2015-03-08 15:18 Arphimigon: its prettier
2015-03-08 15:18 Arphimigon: but
2015-03-08 15:18 Arphimigon: overlaps
2015-03-08 15:18 Arphimigon: and spacing.
2015-03-08 15:19 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2865146 ?
2015-03-08 15:19 Arphimigon: that fixes overlaps
2015-03-08 15:19 Arphimigon: but
2015-03-08 15:19 Arphimigon: its still too difficult compared to most of the map
2015-03-08 15:19 Arphimigon: (imo)
2015-03-08 15:19 Madni: Hmm
2015-03-08 15:20 Arphimigon: decreased spacing ver http://puu.sh/grIZv/783f7ec829.jpg
2015-03-08 15:20 Arphimigon: also od8.5 suits it ya
2015-03-08 15:21 Arphimigon: (and HP6)
2015-03-08 15:24 Arphimigon: did you see the points i made above till 6:00?
2015-03-08 15:24 Madni: Made them all
2015-03-08 15:25 Arphimigon: awesome
2015-03-08 15:25 Arphimigon: 80%!
2015-03-08 15:25 Madni: D
2015-03-08 15:25 Madni: Toilet doe
2015-03-08 15:25 Madni: Brb
2015-03-08 15:25 Arphimigon: 06:02:338 (1,2,3,4,5) - Curve doe
2015-03-08 15:27 Madni: Dun
2015-03-08 15:27 Arphimigon: okay
2015-03-08 15:28 Arphimigon: 06:03:709 (1,2,3,4) - I got some better posistions
2015-03-08 15:28 Arphimigon: lemme just send to see if you like
2015-03-08 15:28 Madni: Yaya
2015-03-08 15:28 Arphimigon: 06:03:709 (1) - x:196 y:228
2015-03-08 15:28 Arphimigon: 06:03:881 (2) - x:96 y:64
2015-03-08 15:29 Arphimigon: 06:04:052 (3) - x:228 y:60
2015-03-08 15:29 Arphimigon: ^ for triangle
2015-03-08 15:29 Arphimigon: then
2015-03-08 15:29 Arphimigon: 06:04:224 (4) - x:196 y:120
2015-03-08 15:29 Arphimigon: to slot in the middle
2015-03-08 15:30 Arphimigon: then 06:04:738 (8,9,10) - restacked on combo 3 note
2015-03-08 15:30 Arphimigon: ya
2015-03-08 15:30 Arphimigon: its basically the same, but combo 4 note was moved and triangle fixed
2015-03-08 15:30 Madni: Sure
2015-03-08 15:31 Arphimigon: (also fix 06:05:424 (2) - after)
2015-03-08 15:31 Madni: Already did :p
2015-03-08 15:31 Arphimigon: not perfect square 06:06:109 (1,2,3,4) -
2015-03-08 15:31 Arphimigon: copy 06:06:109 (1) -
2015-03-08 15:31 Arphimigon: and use ctrl + >
2015-03-08 15:32 Madni: Hmm i thought i did that
2015-03-08 15:32 Madni: Or maybe that was at a later point
2015-03-08 15:32 Madni: I'll just do it real quick
2015-03-08 15:32 Arphimigon: then use the ctrl+shift+s again for the three outer notes
2015-03-08 15:32 Arphimigon: four*
2015-03-08 15:33 Arphimigon: oh i missed something from before 05:52:738 (1) - should be in a straight line with Combo 2 note
2015-03-08 15:33 Madni: STREAMZZZ
2015-03-08 15:34 Arphimigon: YAYAYA
2015-03-08 15:34 Madni: Dun
2015-03-08 15:34 Arphimigon: uh
2015-03-08 15:34 Arphimigon: 06:08:338 (2,3,4,5,6) -
2015-03-08 15:34 Arphimigon: lol
2015-03-08 15:34 Arphimigon: fix
2015-03-08 15:34 Arphimigon: last note is out
2015-03-08 15:34 Arphimigon: 06:09:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - STREAMZZZ DOE
2015-03-08 15:35 Arphimigon: 06:13:138 (6) - Face towards next slider because last stream we did that too?
2015-03-08 15:35 Arphimigon: 06:13:309 (1) - Increase spacing from slider to make slider jump
2015-03-08 15:38 Arphimigon: 06:19:309 (4,5,6,7,8) - God tools
2015-03-08 15:39 Arphimigon: 06:27:024 (1) - Move middle point up twice to blanket next stream (?) your choice there though
2015-03-08 15:40 Arphimigon: 06:33:024 (4,5,6,7,8) - ...more god tools!
2015-03-08 15:40 Arphimigon: 06:35:252 (1) - should be higher
2015-03-08 15:40 Arphimigon: 06:35:767 (3,4,5,6,7) - Not straigh
2015-03-08 15:41 Arphimigon: straight*
2015-03-08 15:41 Arphimigon: 06:36:281 (8,9) - Same as above
2015-03-08 15:41 Arphimigon: 06:37:138 (4,5,6,7,8) - lolpls
2015-03-08 15:41 Arphimigon: 06:39:967 (5,6,7,8) - /me dislikes dis overlap
2015-03-08 15:41 Arphimigon: 06:41:252 (4,5,6,7,8) - Fix curve
2015-03-08 15:42 Arphimigon: okay ill let you catch up nao
2015-03-08 15:42 Arphimigon: 40 more secs hype
2015-03-08 15:45 Madni: Hyep
2015-03-08 15:45 Arphimigon: you got it all?
2015-03-08 15:45 Arphimigon: *resubmit after*
2015-03-08 15:45 Madni: ACTION nods
2015-03-08 15:47 Arphimigon: 06:42:795 (7) - Point towards 8 pls
2015-03-08 15:47 Arphimigon: STREAM + SV INCREASE DOE 06:43:481 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2015-03-08 15:47 Arphimigon: love it, keep it
2015-03-08 15:47 Madni: SV?
2015-03-08 15:48 Arphimigon: slider velocity
2015-03-08 15:48 Madni: Song value?
2015-03-08 15:48 Madni: a
2015-03-08 15:48 Madni: Was inspired by pretender
2015-03-08 15:48 Arphimigon: 06:46:224 (1) - Make a curve to flow with previous two notes
2015-03-08 15:48 Arphimigon: Pretender is OP
2015-03-08 15:48 Madni: Pretender is awesome
2015-03-08 15:48 Madni: But i'm horrible at it
2015-03-08 15:48 Madni: Lel
2015-03-08 15:48 Arphimigon: 06:48:281 (5) - Could start inbetween 6 and 7
2015-03-08 15:48 Arphimigon: Ive been trying to HR it for some time not
2015-03-08 15:48 Arphimigon: now*
2015-03-08 15:48 Arphimigon: nomod is too easy
2015-03-08 15:49 Madni: I am sooo close to clearing it with HR
2015-03-08 15:49 Arphimigon: ACTION highfives
2015-03-08 15:49 Madni: It's like the final part with the fast sliders ontop of eachother
2015-03-08 15:49 Madni: ACTION responds with a highfive
2015-03-08 15:49 Arphimigon: ^
2015-03-08 15:49 Arphimigon: 06:53:081 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fix this star
2015-03-08 15:49 Arphimigon: #godtools
2015-03-08 15:50 Arphimigon: 06:54:452 (1) - Even out this sliders middle point so its in the middle of the slider
2015-03-08 15:50 Madni: I think that's a pretty well done manual star doe
2015-03-08 15:50 Madni: BUt yeah ofc i'll fix it
2015-03-08 15:50 Arphimigon: yeah its nice
2015-03-08 15:50 Arphimigon: but
2015-03-08 15:50 Arphimigon: its not nice enough!
2015-03-08 15:50 Arphimigon: 06:55:138 (3) - Move up one pixel for blanket
2015-03-08 15:50 Arphimigon: (or two)
2015-03-08 15:51 Arphimigon: 06:55:309 (4) - move so it makes a line that goes through the red node of combo 2 slider like this:
2015-03-08 15:51 Arphimigon: http://puu.sh/grKQJ/710ff6ac93.jpg
2015-03-08 15:51 Arphimigon: also 06:55:481 (5) - could be made into a triangle after
2015-03-08 15:52 Arphimigon: if you place it at x:176 and y:280
2015-03-08 15:52 Madni: Got it
2015-03-08 15:53 Arphimigon: all of them?
2015-03-08 15:53 Madni: Mhm
2015-03-08 15:53 Arphimigon: You are getting faster too quickly!
2015-03-08 15:53 Arphimigon: okay
2015-03-08 15:53 Madni:
2015-03-08 15:53 Arphimigon: 06:57:367 (2) - not a proper blanket
2015-03-08 15:53 Arphimigon: move left once and up once
2015-03-08 15:53 Madni: I'm being taught well tho :p
2015-03-08 15:54 Arphimigon: ayy lmao
2015-03-08 15:54 Madni: I have a friend that keeps saying that too XP
2015-03-08 15:54 Arphimigon: ;-;
2015-03-08 15:54 Arphimigon: too many memes
2015-03-08 15:54 Arphimigon: 06:58:567 (1,2,3,4) - Distance should be the same
2015-03-08 15:54 Madni: :3
2015-03-08 15:54 Arphimigon: 06:59:252 (5,6,7,8) - Same he-
2015-03-08 15:54 Arphimigon: :3!
2015-03-08 15:55 Arphimigon: Gotta love that face
2015-03-08 15:55 Arphimigon: 07:00:967 (5) - Could blanket combo 4 slider
2015-03-08 15:56 Arphimigon: 07:02:681 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I love squares
2015-03-08 15:56 Arphimigon: k
2015-03-08 15:56 Arphimigon: 07:04:738 (3) - overlap
2015-03-08 15:56 Arphimigon: also you can copy paste the same slider for the same angles
2015-03-08 15:56 Arphimigon: then just ctrl-g or rotate to flip them
2015-03-08 15:57 Madni: Yeah they are sligthly off aren't they?
2015-03-08 15:57 Arphimigon: yeah
2015-03-08 15:58 Arphimigon: 07:09:881 (3) - move to x:264 and y:256
2015-03-08 15:58 Arphimigon: for triangle and neatness
2015-03-08 15:59 Arphimigon: then make 07:10:224 (5) - at x:248 y:136
2015-03-08 15:59 Arphimigon: do NOT fully overlap combo note 6 (the red one)
2015-03-08 16:00 Arphimigon: 07:11:252 (2) - can blanket combo 1 slider better
2015-03-08 16:00 Arphimigon: 07:10:738 (8) - Move up one space for a better line?
2015-03-08 16:00 Arphimigon: 07:11:252 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - JUMPS
2015-03-08 16:00 Arphimigon: 95% hype
2015-03-08 16:00 Arphimigon: ill wait for you to catch up k
2015-03-08 16:01 Madni: I'm already here
2015-03-08 16:01 Arphimigon: ffs
2015-03-08 16:01 Arphimigon: too fast now
2015-03-08 16:01 Madni: :3
2015-03-08 16:01 Arphimigon: okay
2015-03-08 16:01 Madni: ~3~
2015-03-08 16:01 Arphimigon: 07:16:995 (8,1,2) - awkward change
2015-03-08 16:01 Arphimigon: o3o
2015-03-08 16:01 Madni: =3=
2015-03-08 16:01 Arphimigon: ;_;
2015-03-08 16:02 Arphimigon: I see no pattern of these 07:19:138 (1,2,3,4) -
2015-03-08 16:02 Arphimigon: Make them mean something, in some way (other than being a part of the music)
2015-03-08 16:03 Arphimigon: 07:21:367 (5) - Make it more infront of combo 4 slider
2015-03-08 16:03 Arphimigon: doesnt need to be right in front, just more than it is now
2015-03-08 16:03 Arphimigon: 07:24:280 (7) - Same here
2015-03-08 16:03 Arphimigon: 07:26:338 (2) - Lolwat
2015-03-08 16:03 Arphimigon: 07:27:367 (1,2,3,4,5) - Seriously
2015-03-08 16:04 Arphimigon: 07:29:767 (6) - move to x:472 y:256 for a nicer flow
2015-03-08 16:04 Arphimigon: 07:29:424 (4) - Change end point to somewhere like this: http://puu.sh/grLEs/d8ccd6f9e2.jpg
2015-03-08 16:05 Arphimigon: then resubmit ya
2015-03-08 16:06 Madni: ye 2 sec
2015-03-08 16:06 Arphimigon: also: http://puu.sh/grLLN/c209280e5a.png
2015-03-08 16:09 Madni: I did alot of work today :34
2015-03-08 16:09 Madni: You too
2015-03-08 16:09 Arphimigon: >starts mod
2015-03-08 16:09 Arphimigon: >5 hours 30 mins later
2015-03-08 16:09 Arphimigon: okay ill need to upload this log now k
2015-03-08 16:10 Madni: Sure
2015-03-08 16:10 Madni: I'll just relog then

118:17 Madni: Yeah i know
18:17 Madni: But i mean
18:17 Madni: If we go through a modding session again
18:17 Madni: (Hopefully not 5 hours again lol)
18:17 Arphimigon: yeah
18:18 Madni: Whua
18:18 Madni: OP
18:18 Arphimigon: you can give kudos PER POST not per person
18:18 Madni: >_>
18:18 Arphimigon: like a second mod can be useful
18:18 Madni: Yeah i can see the logic behind that
18:18 Madni: And i suppose the BAT's will go through the modding logs to see for potential cheaters
18:18 Arphimigon: yeah
18:19 Arphimigon: but if i modded your map again and made it USEFUL than a second kudos is fine
18:19 Madni: Cewl :p
18:19 Arphimigon: i could prob start now, but not long
18:19 Arphimigon: also im warmed up like hell
18:19 Madni: Yah sure
18:20 Madni: Celldweller modding: The sequal!
18:20 Arphimigon: Lol
18:20 Arphimigon: also a request after
18:20 Arphimigon: Ur a prosu rite
18:20 Arphimigon: (inb4 test all my maps)
18:20 Madni: Lol
18:20 Madni: Prosu?
18:20 Arphimigon: pro + osu
18:21 Madni: Pro at osu, or something?
18:21 Arphimigon: yeah
18:21 Madni: Hah
18:21 Arphimigon: prosu
18:21 Madni: I wouldn't say
18:21 Arphimigon: welp
18:21 Madni: But i guess i'm decent
18:21 Arphimigon: so the first time i checked your map, i checked for errors
18:21 Arphimigon: THIS time ill be giving my opinion on points
18:21 Arphimigon: (opinions make maps ya know)
18:21 Madni: Aight
18:21 Madni: Noice
18:21 Arphimigon: 00:00:967 (4,4) - i think these should be NC
18:22 Madni: Yeah all the others are too
18:22 Arphimigon: but every section
18:22 Arphimigon: not just the ones you did
18:22 Arphimigon: i dunno a NC per part looks nicer
18:23 Arphimigon: I personally dont like the way 00:04:396 (1) - can overlap with the 3 slider (being used to things like ar10.5 i can still see that, it sucks)
18:24 Madni: So should i overlap it completely or move the whole arch
18:24 Arphimigon: move the arch, make the 1 note be in a line instead of weird overlap
18:24 Arphimigon: 00:05:082 (5) - could blanket the 4 note?
18:25 Arphimigon: (i have to admit this looks a lot neater than when i first saw it, good job)
18:25 Madni: You were the one who did the changes
18:25 Madni: I was simply the puppy :p
18:25 Madni: puppet*
18:25 Madni: I should say
18:25 Arphimigon: you did the changes, i just guided ya
18:25 Arphimigon: anyway
18:26 Arphimigon: 00:07:139 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - love this
18:26 Madni: There was also the random dude who edited a little in the first min
18:26 Arphimigon: i saw
18:26 Madni: Inspired by Amamiya Yuko
18:26 Arphimigon: 00:08:510 (1) - could curve a little more down to point at the next stack?
18:26 Madni: Rootus remix
18:26 Madni: One of my favourite maps
18:26 Arphimigon: lmao
18:26 Arphimigon: 2manymaps
18:27 Arphimigon: 00:09:196 (4) - same here
18:27 Madni: I'll just make all the following sliders point at the following stacks
18:27 Arphimigon: 00:09:882 (1) - and here
18:27 Arphimigon: oh
18:27 Arphimigon: yeah
18:27 Arphimigon: 00:10:567 (4) - not sure about this though
18:27 Arphimigon: 00:11:253 (1) - this... this change was unexpected to the start
18:28 Madni: i tried
18:28 Madni: I cri everitim
18:28 Arphimigon: the trick is
18:28 Arphimigon: to do this:
18:28 Arphimigon: http://puu.sh/gtkop/09447b27a4.jpg
18:29 Arphimigon: and adjust till they overlap
18:31 Arphimigon: 00:13:996 (1) - move top node two spaces right (still offscreen) for a nicer loop
18:31 Arphimigon: 00:18:796 (2,3,1) - Weird distancing here
18:31 Arphimigon: 00:23:253 (4) - delete and redo curve
18:31 Arphimigon: 00:24:624 (6) - and here
18:31 Arphimigon: on that note
18:32 Arphimigon: 00:22:224 (1,2,3,4) - should be all same distancing for neatness
18:32 Arphimigon: 00:28:396 (3,4,5,6) - I can't really feel the music in these 1/4 sliders imo, make notes or 1/2 sliders
18:33 Arphimigon: 00:31:824 (4) - I would add a NC here
18:33 Arphimigon: 00:40:053 (1) - Remove NC
18:33 Arphimigon: and add one 00:41:424 (4) - instead
18:34 Arphimigon: like all the next notes, NC this too 00:44:167 (6) -
18:34 Arphimigon: sliders*
18:34 Arphimigon: mfw im finding NCs only
18:34 Arphimigon: 00:52:396 (5) - NC
18:35 Arphimigon: 00:56:167 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Personally this should be redone. Not neat spacing, looks bad. Change please!
18:35 Arphimigon: 00:59:082 (7) - Move more down for curve with 4, 5 and 6 starts
18:35 Arphimigon: 00:59:253 (1) - Overlaps 6
18:36 Arphimigon: 01:01:995 (1) - Make this end directly overlap 3?
18:37 Arphimigon: 01:06:452 (2) - move down 3 and right 2 pixels for nice blanket then fix 01:07:138 (5) -
18:37 Arphimigon: 01:08:510 (3) - Pixel overlap with 01:07:823 (8) - looks bad
18:38 Arphimigon: 01:10:224 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Add more structure to this (United did have more structure)
18:38 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2869586 ?
18:38 Arphimigon: its... better
18:38 Arphimigon: i guess
18:38 Madni: Nah
18:38 Madni: I still don't like
18:38 Arphimigon: redo it completey
18:38 Arphimigon: completely*
18:40 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2869593
18:40 Arphimigon: even something simple like: http://puu.sh/gtliZ/9b86b0045c.jpg
18:40 Arphimigon: well that COULD work
18:40 Madni: Oh so you want the square gone too?
18:40 Arphimigon: nah
18:41 Arphimigon: i just wanted it to be "overall" nicer
18:41 Arphimigon: if square is good keep, as long as it FITS the previous note
18:41 Arphimigon: notes*
18:41 Arphimigon: My approach was simple, but effective. Ofc your style seems different though (im all about structure)
18:42 Arphimigon: 01:04:053 (1) - pixel overlap with 7
18:42 Arphimigon: 01:04:739 (5) - NC
18:42 Arphimigon: 01:13:652 (5) - Move one pixel left for line
18:43 Arphimigon: actually scrap that
18:43 Arphimigon: 01:13:481 (4,5,6,7,8) - WHERES THE GOD TOOL STAR?
18:45 Arphimigon: 01:16:052 (3,4) - Make line with 1 please
18:45 Arphimigon: 01:16:567 (6,7,8) - Increase spacing to kick with music (even full screen works here)
18:45 Arphimigon: 01:19:824 (4,5,6) - Flow pls
18:46 Arphimigon: 01:21:024 (2,3,4) - I dont feel a triplet here
18:46 Arphimigon: 01:28:052 (1) - Dis overlap doe
18:47 Arphimigon: 01:31:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Long combo. Either add a NC on the star start, or on combo 8
18:47 Arphimigon: 01:41:767 (1) - Redo curve
18:48 Arphimigon: (i cant believe imma say this but) 01:44:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - MAKE INTO STREAM!
18:48 Arphimigon: 01:54:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Dis pattern, i dont like. Keep if you wish since it works, id change
18:49 Arphimigon: 01:58:224 (1) - Increase spacing pls
18:49 Arphimigon: 02:06:452 (1,2,3,4) - Either use same curve, or gradually wider/smaller. This looks ugly
18:50 Arphimigon: 02:10:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Rotate so 1 overlaps the red 2 more
18:50 Arphimigon: 02:14:852 (2) - Overlap stack fully pls
18:50 Arphimigon: 02:17:767 (3) - ew
18:50 Arphimigon: 02:21:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - RIP flow
18:51 Arphimigon: 02:38:681 (9,10,11) - LUMP
18:51 Arphimigon: 02:46:910 (1,2,3,4,1) - Same distancing please
18:51 Arphimigon: 02:47:595 (1,2,3) - And between these three
18:52 Arphimigon: 02:56:938 (1,2,3,4) - Curve this left just a tad
18:53 Arphimigon: 03:10:567 (5) - Move to x:60 y:152 for better triangle
18:53 Madni: ERHMAGERD ITS STREAM MAKIN' TIEM AGAIN
18:53 Arphimigon: wait
18:53 Arphimigon: where are you?
18:53 Arphimigon: have i skipped ahead too far
18:54 Arphimigon: 03:12:624 (3) - Middle node one space right for equality
18:55 Arphimigon: 03:17:767 (1) - has too much spacing from last note
18:55 Arphimigon: 03:20:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - LMAO. I can see how you have made these jumps, but PLEASE add some kind of visible structure!
18:55 Arphimigon: Please!
18:56 Arphimigon: 03:28:738 (1,2,3,4,5) - Change
18:56 Arphimigon: 03:31:652 (2,3) - Make line with 7
18:56 Arphimigon: 03:32:852 (2,4,5,6) - Dis overlapping is nonono
18:57 Arphimigon: 03:34:910 (4,5,6) - Should be same distancing
18:57 Arphimigon: 03:36:967 (1,2,3,4,5) - ...
18:57 Arphimigon: 03:51:710 (8) - Pixel overlaps 5 and 6
18:58 Arphimigon: 04:02:681 (9,10,11) - Same spacing please!
18:58 Arphimigon: 04:36:625 (5,6,1) - Same spacing again
18:59 Arphimigon: 04:41:082 (2) - Middle node 2 spaces left
18:59 Arphimigon: I know why you put these here 04:49:653 (1,2,3,4,5) - But i dont like them imo
19:00 Arphimigon: 04:54:796 (7,8,1) - Overlaps pls
19:00 Arphimigon: also afk
19:00 Madni: Huh, me?
19:00 Madni: I just finished the stream x.x
19:05 Arphimigon: oh
19:05 Arphimigon: how far in is that?
19:06 Madni: I'm at 02:08:510 (1) -
19:06 Arphimigon: o
19:06 Arphimigon: damn thats far
19:06 Arphimigon: Ill finish anyway
19:07 Arphimigon: 04:53:082 (4) - even out
19:07 Arphimigon: 04:58:567 (4) - Dont make start and end overlap pls
19:08 Arphimigon: 05:07:139 (7) - move to x:196 y:72 for neatness
19:08 Arphimigon: 05:14:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - i would rotate the outer ones out further for easier reading. this isnt S.S!
19:08 Arphimigon: unless ofc you want it to be
19:09 Arphimigon: 05:23:252 (1,2,3) - Curve this to flow with note 6
19:09 Arphimigon: 05:36:795 (3,4,5,6,7) - CTRL-G
19:09 Arphimigon: 05:42:281 (4,5,6,7,8) - ...same
19:10 Arphimigon: 05:53:081 (2) - One pixel left #OCD
19:10 Arphimigon: 05:54:109 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I question this. Keep or change, your choice
19:11 Arphimigon: 06:01:995 (10,11,12) - Fix spacing
19:11 Arphimigon: 06:04:224 (4) - Space more from note 3
19:12 Arphimigon: 06:29:767 (1) - Move middle node up twice
19:12 Arphimigon: 06:31:652 (3,4,5,6,7) - not straight #OCDOCDOCD
19:12 Arphimigon: 06:35:252 (1) - Make higher please!
19:13 Arphimigon: 06:37:995 (1,2) - Ew. Fix
19:13 Arphimigon: 06:48:795 (7) - Move down 1 space
19:13 Arphimigon: 06:55:652 (6) - Fully overlap 3, not 95% here
19:14 Arphimigon: 07:00:452 (4) - Down once, left 3 times for blanket
19:14 Arphimigon: 07:10:909 (1) - Down once
19:15 Arphimigon: 07:11:424 (3,4,5,6) - Could be improved for spacing and neatness
19:15 Arphimigon: 07:17:338 (4,5) - These two notes appear one after the other, stacked, in a stream
19:15 Arphimigon: fix the stream
19:16 Arphimigon: 07:27:367 (1,2,3,4,5) - Change this
19:16 Arphimigon: 07:29:767 (6) - One space left
19:16 Arphimigon: DONE
19:17 Madni: Now it's just up to me :p
19:18 Arphimigon: ya
19:20 Arphimigon: I really want to make a GD, but you seem to be refusing them~
19:26 Madni: Sorta
19:26 Madni: Depends on what diff you're searching for
19:26 Madni: Csz we could make something like they did with Yooh - Salvation
19:26 Arphimigon: or atama no taisou
19:26 Arphimigon: also /np that map pls
19:26 Arphimigon: (actually ill find it)
19:27 *Madni is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/427090 Yooh - salvation]
19:27 Arphimigon: o
19:27 Arphimigon: well im most likely gonna make some other 6 star map
19:27 Arphimigon: since thats kinda what i map
19:30 Madni: But i feel a 2 diff 6 star map, is much less likely to get ranked than a 1 diff 6 star map
19:30 Arphimigon: i dont, but your choice since its your map
19:30 Arphimigon: >stares at atama again, mapped too long ago cri
19:31 Madni: Yeah
19:31 Madni: That's my only fear
19:31 Madni: They just won't do that again
19:31 Arphimigon: how about I try and map it, and if there are any compliant we remove it?
19:31 Madni: Sure
19:31 Arphimigon: since i map loads of maps so i dont mind removing some
19:31 Madni: I'm in for that
19:31 Arphimigon: awesome
19:31 Madni: It took me like 2-3 weeks to map this doe
19:31 Madni: xP
19:31 Arphimigon: how far you in?
19:31 Arphimigon: nah i map quite fast
19:33 Madni: 03:51:710 (8) -
19:33 Arphimigon: awesome
19:34 *Arphimigon is editing Celldweller - End of an Empire [Arphimigeddon]
19:34 Arphimigon: ill try to incorprate some elements from your map, since you are the map holder
19:34 Madni: 04:02:681 (9,10,11) - What's with the spacing?
19:34 Arphimigon: like jumps around the same places
19:34 Madni: Yeah sure
19:35 Madni: You should prolly take my custom hitsounds and use them at the same places too
19:35 Arphimigon: I cant hitsound
19:35 Arphimigon: ...i play without hitsounds
19:35 Madni: custom = ones that i found around the webz
19:35 Madni: Ah
19:35 Madni: Should i do that when you're done?
19:35 Arphimigon: 04:02:681 (9,10,11) - they all have different spacing too much
19:35 Arphimigon: 0.68 and 0.72 are too different
19:35 Arphimigon: yeah if you like to
19:36 Madni: So it should be closer to 04:02:510 (8) - ?
19:36 Arphimigon: as in
19:36 Arphimigon: the actual triplet
19:36 Arphimigon: the notes in itself from the center note
19:36 Madni: The spacing in the triplet is wrong?
19:36 Arphimigon: are too different
19:36 Arphimigon: ya
19:36 Madni: I already checked dat
19:36 Madni: Wut
19:36 Arphimigon: one is 0.68 out and one is 0.72 our
19:36 Arphimigon: oh
19:36 Arphimigon: then leave it
19:37 Madni: I'll just ctrl + shift + U
19:37 Arphimigon: open?
19:38 Madni: upload
19:38 Arphimigon: oh
19:38 *Arphimigon slaps self
19:39 Arphimigon: gotta love mapping slow parts rite
19:39 Madni: They aren't that bad
19:39 Madni: It's a little relaxing
19:39 Madni: After placing all those triplets and the 5-ones
19:40 Arphimigon: ayy true
19:51 Arphimigon: Where you at now?
19:58 Madni: 06:01:995 (10,11,12) -
19:58 Arphimigon: ayy end nice
19:58 Arphimigon: you dont know whats wrong?
19:59 Madni: Yes
19:59 Arphimigon: you do?
19:59 Madni: That just happened to be the point i was at :p
19:59 Arphimigon: oh
19:59 Arphimigon: okay
19:59 Arphimigon: im 00:56:682 -
20:02 Arphimigon: mfw you have 2 spinners
20:02 Arphimigon: yay start of fast bit
20:03 Madni: But if we have 2 diffs
20:03 Madni: Do we need both diffs to have a SP of +12?
20:03 Madni: Or just the song overall
20:03 Arphimigon: Song overall
20:03 Arphimigon: you'll submit it as one map
20:03 Arphimigon: (with two diffs)
20:04 Arphimigon: yeah diffs dont get sp seperatly
20:04 Arphimigon: separatly
20:04 Arphimigon: however you spell that
20:04 Arphimigon: also i think its +14SP
20:05 Madni: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Beatmap_Approval
20:05 Madni: Under Bubble
20:06 Arphimigon: i see
20:06 Arphimigon: im not sure how easies and normals count anymore
20:06 Arphimigon: i might ask a BAT
20:09 Madni: It's a marathon map, so we won't have to create easy and normals, nor an insane
20:09 Arphimigon: well above 7 mins yeah
20:09 Madni: Length>300 (5 mins)
20:09 Arphimigon: oh
20:09 Arphimigon: 5 k
20:10 Arphimigon: *make your diff cs4.5 for 6 stars! /me runs*
20:10 Arphimigon: I must be a weird mapper.
20:10 Arphimigon: HR player who likes mapping cs3
20:10 Arphimigon: Imo maps look more nice on high cs
20:12 Madni: Wait
20:12 Madni: I should increase it to cs 4.5?
20:12 Arphimigon: no
20:12 Arphimigon: that was a joke
20:12 Arphimigon: CS is your joke
20:12 Arphimigon: choice*
20:12 Arphimigon: CS is your choice
20:13 Arphimigon: ill be offline for some time k
20:13 Arphimigon: cyaaaa
20:21 Madni: wb
20:21 Arphimigon: finished the mod?
20:21 Arphimigon: ill post

23:06 Arphimigon: this hitsounding is terrible its like 2 weeks old (when i started)
23:09 Madni: +1
23:09 Arphimigon: hmmm
23:09 Madni: So much better than my map xD
23:09 Arphimigon: business time? stuff to fix in yours after
23:13 Madni: Yah
23:13 Madni: I can't play with mouz anyways :p
23:13 Madni: Did wayyy too much tablet play
23:13 Arphimigon: rip
23:13 Madni: Aight
23:13 Arphimigon: to business?
23:13 Madni: My map
23:13 Madni: Let's just get it done!
23:13 Madni: Though i may not ahve that much time
23:14 Arphimigon: oh that sfine
23:14 Arphimigon: i'll do a forum post
23:14 Madni: We'll do what we can manage then continue tomorrow
23:14 Arphimigon: you can check up any time
23:14 Madni: Sure thing
23:14 Arphimigon: but IRC main points now
23:14 Madni: IRC/
23:14 Madni: ?
23:14 Arphimigon: IRC = basically PM chat
23:14 Madni: No connection whatsoever but whatever
23:15 Arphimigon: "internet relay chat"
23:15 Arphimigon: yeah no importance
23:15 Madni: Suure..
23:15 Madni: Buzinezz
23:15 Arphimigon: okay
23:15 Madni: I have a feeling you'll mention this slider
23:15 Madni: 00:11:253 (1) -
23:15 Arphimigon: the biggest changes i made on my diff apply to yours really
23:15 Arphimigon: not really
23:15 Arphimigon: 00:11:253 - Remove EVERYTHING before here
23:16 Madni: Really? D:
23:16 Arphimigon: mapping this start is kinda random and ruins the calmness of the start
23:16 Arphimigon: just start from the slider
23:16 Madni: Hm
23:16 Madni: Mkay
23:16 Arphimigon: as for the beginning section from that point onwards
23:17 Arphimigon: we can agree its calm right?
23:17 Madni: Yeah untill 00:55:138 (1) -
23:17 Arphimigon: exactly.
23:17 Arphimigon: now i made major nerfs to mine and you need to too
23:17 Arphimigon: it feels way overmapped
23:17 Arphimigon: consider deleting these for instance 00:15:710 (2,4) -
23:18 Arphimigon: tbh the sliders should be slower and extended more too but w/e
23:18 Arphimigon: also delete this 00:19:139 (3) -
23:18 Arphimigon: 00:21:196 (2,4) - and lastly those
23:19 Madni: You just keep going i got dis
23:19 Arphimigon: okay
23:19 Arphimigon: from the calm section to 00:55:139 - LOWER THE SPACING
23:20 Arphimigon: its like the faster sections
23:20 Arphimigon: the notes should be WAY closer
23:20 Arphimigon: like ALL of them
23:20 Arphimigon: it is a really calm section so yeah, i cant give specifics
23:20 Madni: Mkay
23:20 Arphimigon: also 00:22:224 (1,2,3,4) - slider 4 is better being lower just saying
23:20 Arphimigon: idc if you are mapping to the music 00:31:824 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ruins the section mkay?
23:21 Arphimigon: 00:37:310 (1,2,3,4) - should be more consistent, if there at all since calm section
23:21 Arphimigon: 00:38:682 (1,2) - ugly slider + overlap
23:21 Madni: So like everthing between 11:253 and 55:139 should be lowered?
23:21 Arphimigon: reduce spacing
23:21 Arphimigon: remove all 1/4s
23:21 Arphimigon: and NC 00:44:167 (6) -
23:22 Arphimigon: I see what you did 00:52:396 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - but it just looks a bit random on the last 4 notes
23:22 Arphimigon: 00:55:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Consider removing some notes and adding longer sliders? Would work really well
23:23 Arphimigon: look into my diff if you need any guidance heh
23:23 Arphimigon: i noticed a lot more mistakes now (obviously) and tbh 01:00:624 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is just a random unecessary jump
23:23 Arphimigon: im sure you can tell why
23:24 Arphimigon: 01:03:367 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - First 8 notes are fine, slider placement is way too far
23:24 Madni: So 00:31:824 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - won't do?
23:24 Arphimigon: also 01:03:367 (5) - NC
23:24 Arphimigon: wont do at all.
23:24 Arphimigon: well it CAN
23:24 Arphimigon: 00:32:510 (3) - reverse this
23:25 Arphimigon: something like http://puu.sh/hhz4m/10105b9f6d.jpg
23:25 Arphimigon: 00:35:253 (4,5,6) - Fix spacing there while im checking it haha
23:26 Arphimigon: SO MANY RRRR OVERLAPS
23:26 Arphimigon: seriously just overlapping anything you can isnt nice on a player or a modder
23:27 Arphimigon: 01:07:481 (7,8) - Boring flow here, consider Ctrl-Ging the second slider
23:27 Arphimigon: Not easy to spot but 01:08:852 (1,3) - overlap so consider moving 1 or 3 more apart
23:28 Madni: 00:42:967 (1,2,3,4,5) - And this won't do as in "you're leaving quiet zone:
23:28 Arphimigon: hmm
23:28 Arphimigon: remove note 3
23:28 Arphimigon: bring the old slider 4 back 1/4
23:28 Arphimigon: and add a note in the spare place
23:29 Arphimigon: feels rhythmically better and suits
23:30 Arphimigon: 01:15:710 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - k. first 4 jumps arent really emphasised much at all, next four are.
23:30 Arphimigon: see what i did if you wanna know what i mean
23:30 Arphimigon: 01:17:938 (1,2,3) - stacking anywhere in a fast section is boring meh. change it up!
23:31 Arphimigon: 01:24:452 (7,8,9,10,11) - I dont like the look of this, plays fine but looks bad
23:31 Arphimigon: ( i mod with stacking enabled)
23:31 Arphimigon: 01:25:310 (1,2,3,4,1) - Considering slider momentum, note is WAY too close, you are expecting a jump to note 1
23:32 Arphimigon: 01:28:052 (1) - Jump to this too? This is kinda boring here
23:32 Arphimigon: 01:31:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - eh 1 and 2 arent emphasis too much
23:32 Arphimigon: reduce spacing there add more after (perhaps a triangle instead?)
23:33 Arphimigon: 01:40:395 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Too harsh of an angle of the stream for a slider jump o/ consider an easier curve
23:33 Arphimigon: 01:41:424 (4,5,6) - Feels better as 2 slider jumps
23:34 Arphimigon: 01:43:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - not neat at all rrr
23:34 Arphimigon: 01:46:395 (4,5) - jump here, 1/4 snap is ezpz anyway after a slider
23:34 Arphimigon: 01:49:652 (8,9) - too close after last jumps, fits better if spaced more
23:35 Arphimigon: 01:52:567 (9,1) - too close, may be misleading for a stream jump!
23:35 Arphimigon: 01:54:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - NERF
23:35 Arphimigon: 02:04:052 (3,4,5) - make them all 120 degree rotations? *GOD TOOLS* ctrl+shift+r
23:36 Arphimigon: 02:05:081 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - overmapped, http://puu.sh/hhzH8/42a62a1391.jpg this suits better
23:36 Arphimigon: kiai feels overmapped everywhere
23:36 Arphimigon: consider reducing 1/4 into jumps
23:37 Arphimigon: 02:16:567 (6,7,8,9,10) - flow is bad and overlap is ugly, stack the triplet and make the slider a straight line
23:37 Arphimigon: 02:18:110 (4,5,6,7) - sudden triplet+note stack is horrible to read
23:38 Arphimigon: 02:30:452 (5,6,7,8) - too close after last jumps
23:38 Arphimigon: 02:33:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Bad idea here, the flow is all over the place. Move 6 more left and reduce the spacing to the jump of 6 and the jump to the triplet
23:39 Arphimigon: 02:37:310 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - after the already hard slider jumps, reduce spacing of the stream? i dunno its not emphasised enough for a spaced one
23:39 Arphimigon: 02:47:595 (1,2) - make both 1/4 tick less long, look at my diff if you want
23:40 Arphimigon: 02:52:395 (3,4,5,6) - distance more to fit with last jumps at 02:51:024 (3,4,5,6) -
23:40 Arphimigon: 02:58:138 (6) - remove note and distance next notes more
23:41 Arphimigon: 02:58:567 (1,2,3,4) - Not much structure heere, add some logic to these sliders movements
23:41 Arphimigon: 03:03:195 (4,1) - A tad close mkay
23:41 Arphimigon: 03:03:881 (7,1) - Likewise could be misleading for a stream jump here
23:41 Arphimigon: 03:04:052 (1,3) - Bad overlap
23:41 Arphimigon: 03:07:824 (4,1) - ^
23:42 Arphimigon: 03:10:738 (6) - Overlap 3 instead?
23:42 Arphimigon: 03:17:338 (4,1) - jumpy spacing to every 1/1 but lowered during the stream is weird haha
23:42 Arphimigon: fne though
23:43 Arphimigon: 03:20:510 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Nerf last notes? Select them all and ctrl+shift+s and distance like 80%
23:43 Arphimigon: 03:24:281 (1,2,3,4,5) - too close
23:44 Arphimigon: 03:30:110 (1,2,3) - 3rd slider fits as a jump here not a stack. Feels weird doing a jump then staying still like this
23:44 Arphimigon: 03:40:052 (3,4,5,6,7) - more jumpy!
23:44 Arphimigon: 03:41:081 (1,2,3,4) - LESS jumpy!
23:44 Arphimigon: 03:48:967 (1,2) - Bad looking overlap
23:45 Arphimigon: 03:54:452 (8,9,10,1) - note should be inbetween 8 and 9, and 03:54:710 (10) - removed
23:45 Arphimigon: 03:58:910 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern is fine, space 3 and 4 more to avoid bad overlapping with last sliders
23:46 Madni: Man you gotta write all that down i gotta go to bed now
23:46 Madni: xD
23:46 Arphimigon: 04:45:539 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Likewise as before, reduce spacing here haha
23:46 Arphimigon: LOL
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10:45 Arphimigon: boo
10:45 Madni: waah
10:46 Arphimigon: how far you at ;-;
10:48 Madni: 01:24:452 (7,8,9,10,11) -
10:48 Madni: What do you with 01:31:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - eh 1 and 2 arent emphasis too much
10:48 Madni: mean
10:48 Madni: what do you mean*
10:49 Arphimigon: listen to the music
10:49 Arphimigon: 01:31:824 (1,2) - dont have much punch in the music, aka arent emphasised *mappers language*
10:49 Arphimigon: 01:32:167 (3,4,5) - you can hear these being more high pitched though
10:49 Madni: They're basically not worth a jump
10:49 Arphimigon: yeah the first two arent
10:50 Arphimigon: last 3 are
10:50 Madni: Gotcha
10:50 Arphimigon: also 01:33:538 (2) - is a jump k forgot to mention
10:50 Madni: I'll just place 2nd note in the middle of the star
10:50 Arphimigon: that actually works quite well
10:50 Arphimigon: x:177 y:185 i wouldve done
10:51 Madni: What how do you get x:177
10:51 Madni: Do you put grid off?
10:51 Arphimigon: i map without grid
10:51 Madni: I have it at x:176 y:188
10:51 Arphimigon: thats fine yeah
10:51 Arphimigon: y:184 is closer for small grid though
10:51 Madni: But what do you want me to do with 01:33:538 (2) - ?
10:52 Arphimigon: distance it more
10:52 Arphimigon: sounds like a small jump to me
10:52 Arphimigon: it has the drums hitting on every like 4/1 beat
10:53 Arphimigon: aka that and 01:34:910 (4) - and 01:36:281 (1) - , but those are jumps already
11:10 Madni: 02:05:081 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - How is this overmapped
11:10 Madni: It follows the drum?
11:10 Arphimigon: didnt you see my image to go along with it
11:11 Madni: I did now
11:11 Arphimigon: basically delete 02:05:167 (2,1) -
11:12 Arphimigon: the last one was optional
11:12 Arphimigon: hm i found some stuff i didnt pick up before uhhh
11:13 Arphimigon: 04:31:825 (1) - extend this to the first note and delete the note (note - 04:34:567 (1) - )
11:13 Arphimigon: 04:44:853 (5,6,1) - Equalise spacing/DS here
11:13 Arphimigon: 04:49:653 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - ^
11:14 Arphimigon: 04:55:482 (1,2,3) - This fits, just make it look neater. Put 2 lower
11:14 Arphimigon: end spinner at 05:07:482 (1) - oveer 05:10:225 - instead?
11:15 Arphimigon: 05:16:395 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5) - weird spacing, move second stacked triple more left
11:15 Arphimigon: tbh if you are gonna stack 05:25:138 (6) - then atleast stack it on slider 4 start, it plays nicer
11:16 Arphimigon: 05:32:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - god tools here, distance 80% (ctrl+shift+s)
11:16 Arphimigon: (ps doing that reduce star rating about 0.1)
11:17 Arphimigon: oh mistaken that was another part
11:17 Arphimigon: 05:54:795 (1,2,3,4,5) - Good idea, not neat enough1
11:19 Arphimigon: 06:34:309 (6,7,8,9) - remove this ugly thing and make 06:33:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - all into a nice curve to the next slider
11:19 Arphimigon: 06:42:795 (7,8) - slider jump doesnt suit here
11:20 Madni: I tried to make 02:47:595 (1,2,3) - fit music
11:20 Arphimigon: 06:58:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I know you like this. So do I. But sadly it DOESNT suit the situation and is a waste of momentum rip
11:20 Arphimigon: reduce the reverses by 1
11:21 Arphimigon: http://puu.sh/hi35a/a2a4f915c9.jpg like that
11:21 Madni: Yeah i guess
11:21 Arphimigon: and space more
11:21 Arphimigon: my idea was completely different there heh
11:21 Arphimigon: 06:55:652 (6,1) - Too close by far after mega jumps!
11:22 Arphimigon: 07:03:881 (8,1) - ^
11:22 Arphimigon: 07:11:252 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is bad. ctrl-g 07:11:595 (4,6) - and it works nicer
11:23 Arphimigon: also stack 7 on 5
11:23 Arphimigon: 07:24:624 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - either all notes or all sliders from here really. Consistency first o/
11:23 Arphimigon: k im done