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Demetori - Furuki Yuanxian ~ Death Echo

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jonathanlfj
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jonathanlfj
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 11:31:09 PM

Artist: Demetori
Title: Furuki Yuanxian ~ Death Echo
Source: 東方Project
Tags: happy30 Kite Natteke RLC Touhou Old Yuanshen Tendre est la Mort le Grimoire De reve 東方神霊廟　～ Ten Desires Metal Arrangment 霍 青娥 Kaku Seiga ZUN comiket 83 c83
BPM: 200
Filesize: 8593kb
Play Time: 04:12
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (2.77 stars, 531 notes)
  2. Extra Stage Collab (5.63 stars, 1184 notes)
  3. Lunatic (4.81 stars, 1019 notes)
  4. Normal (1.98 stars, 329 notes)
  5. RLC's Hard (3.93 stars, 692 notes)
Download: Demetori - Furuki Yuanxian ~ Death Echo
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Extra Stage Collab: happy30 | Kite | Natteke
Original Mapset
Love's Taiko Set
Last edited by jonathanlfj , edited 27 times in total.
Frostmourne
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Frostmourne
I GOT THE FIRST POST AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Adol Christin
875 posts
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Adol Christin
2nd post yay~
CSLM
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CSLM
3rd post
oh god, oh god, oh god, IS HAPPENING!!! :O
Adol Christin
875 posts
Joined October 2012
Adol Christin
Just played this, and feel the Extra Stage and RLC's gd is super similar to the happy30's set (With the exception of od=9, which is really hurt me). Is that an illusion?
jonathanlfj
Elite Mapper
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jonathanlfj
I have gotten permission to use the diffs from happy30's set, that was the intention from the start since I only mapped this so the Extra Collab can get ranked. OD9 was a buff that suits the difficulty better; HP was dropped slightly to to compensate for it.
Adol Christin
875 posts
Joined October 2012
Adol Christin
Sure. (Worry too much, sorry.... ) Waited for this map reviving so long..... Your diff is also nice as usual. Good luck~
Giralda
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Giralda
omg hype
Trust
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Joined March 2012
Trust
absolute cock explosion
happy30
Featured Artist
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happy30

Trust wrote:

absolute cock explosion
nooblet
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Joined December 2011
nooblet
HYPE
zj0924
309 posts
Joined November 2014
zj0924
Hi!lfj
[General]
  1. 图整体做得很好，没有大问题。下面的都是些建议“

[Easy]
  1. 00:01:944 (2,2) - polarity problem，EZ对新手来说节奏越简单越好，建议忽视红线的音
  2. 00:05:694 (1,2) - 我认为新手会抢拍中间那个音建议这样
  3. 00:33:294 (2,3) - 建议采取之前的滑条，做个对称，更有层次感
  4. 00:38:094 (3,1) - ctrl+j看了下这两个滑条弧度不一样啊好像，建议统一。我建议做个对称，别都开口朝右，imoXD
  5. 01:11:994 (1,2) - 这里我认为会对新手来说会有点卡手，建议这样能够改善flow。01:12:894 (2) - 叠在01:14:694 (2) - 上
  6. 01:13:794 (1,1,2) - 建议做如下调整：01:13:794 (1) -- 弯的多一点， 使01:16:494 (2) - 的尾贴在01:14:694 (2) - 头上。会更有诚意
  7. 01:25:794 (2,1) - ez好像不能用1/2吧……unrank的？想了半天没想出更好的了，试试这样下节奏？
  8. 01:28:194 (4) - 01:30:594 (3) -
  9. 01:35:244 (3,1) - 1/2了……试试这样？
  10. 02:01:044 (2) - 其实前面白线已经有音了
  11. 02:55:794 (1) - 结合这里的音乐我觉得用这种比较好
  12. 03:28:044 (2) - 前面白线开始吧不违和的XD

    这是个挂着easy牌子的normal难度，我不知道是否可以用重叠和1/2节奏，如果可以的话就无视我上面说的1/2问题吧。
    红白线交替很多，我不建议这样做，除非鼓声很轻很轻，或者距离足够远再这样。当也许在我们看来并不难，但是对于只会ez的新手来说是非常奇怪的XD。这歌的电吉他就相当于vocal，我认为低难度还是全程跟鼓比较好，新手不会觉得这样枯燥，因为他们对节奏的变化还不适应，连续打重复的节奏在我看来应该是非常爽的。

[Normal]
  1. 01:26:094 (4) - 我建议不叠起来，这样能强调之后滑条的重音
  2. 01:29:394 (2,3,4,5,6) - 不知道是不是我多虑了，感觉锁圈颜色和背景太像了，有些看不清楚……
  3. 01:52:794 (1,2,3) - ^建议天蓝色再深一点……
  4. 01:32:994 (5) - 尾巴拖到01:34:644 (3) - 头比较好？
  5. 02:00:594 (2) - 我建议往右弯一点
  6. 02:53:994 - 觉得可以map这个音？
  7. 03:34:794 (2) - 弯一下比较好？
  8. 04:04:044 (2,4) - 有点不好看感觉，建议对称或者弯一下？

[RLC's Hard]
  1. 00:04:794 (2,3,4) - rotate5° to have a better flow and distance？
  2. 00:13:644 (4,2) - avoid overlapping？
  3. 00:20:094 (1) - blanket could be improved？
  4. 00:20:844 (3,4,1) - move a bit？
  5. 00:23:844 (2) - suggest to curve like 00:26:244 (2) - ?
  6. 01:24:444 (3) - - suggest to have a better flow?
  7. 01:35:544 (5,6,1) - flow here is a little rough and overlap doesn't seem good imo
  8. 01:32:694 (2,3,4) - a better flow?
  9. 02:54:144 (3) - 460 32？
  10. 03:02:694 (5) - ctrl+g？in order to emphasize the 03:02:994 (1) - ？
  11. 03:14:694 (4) - suggest to use curve slider to keep the consistency？
  12. 03:20:994 (1) - curve right a bit to keep symmetry？
  13. 03:20:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - previous flow is kinda odd try this？
  14. 03:26:394 (2,3,4) - 03:25:794 (1) - blanket and will have a nice flow？
  15. 03:27:294 (1,2) - these two seems kinda close……

    nice diff well done

[Lunatic]
  1. 01:41:094 (2) - ctrl+g,01:41:394 (3,4) - ctrl+g?flow其实感觉也不错
  2. 02:17:844 (5,1) - 感觉这里有些不顺好像，我也不知道怎么改XD
  3. 02:23:844 (3) - ctrl+g感觉更好？
  4. 02:30:594 (1,2) - 既然前面都是那样的flow了，这样感觉比较爽
  5. 02:50:394 (3,4) - 感觉这样flow会更爽
  6. 02:58:194 (1,2,3) - 由于之前经过了一串三角旋转，这三个圈有弧度比竖直排列要好
  7. 03:00:294 (4) - - 建议ctrl+h否则没有预判，会有点赶。如果同意的话 03:00:744 (2,3) - ctrl+g?03:01:044 (4) - 这个往上弯一点比较好？
  8. 03:18:294 (5) - 感觉之后的flow有点卡手，03:18:294 (5) - 滑条尾和后面成一直线，这样试试
    这个diff做的很有打击感，我很喜欢

[Extra]
  1. 00:40:944 (2,3,4) - 建议这里保持之前的距离感，和拉滑条的手感，有些挤了
  2. 00:50:094 (1,2,3) - 感觉间距比之前要远很多……
  3. 01:02:244 (5,6) - 这种图形间距我认为必须统一，1.08也有点多了，改成1吧？
  4. 02:02:694 (2) - ctrl+g?并往左下弯？
  5. 02:05:694 (7,1) - 为何这里的间距比02:06:744 (5,6) - 远了？
  6. 02:33:744 (6) - 感觉这个可以稍微远一点叠02:34:494 (2) - 尾上？02:33:894 (7,8,9) - 放02:32:994 (1) - 上？
    Extra图我打不了，也做不了这么难的图。估计我的建议不会有太大的用处，请谅解
总体来说这是一张完成度极高的图，我等只能仰望了，根本无法同台竞技XD。可能很多建议都不是很好，希望能够谅解。但是我尽力了，摸了一天的时间，如果能够帮上忙的话，我也是很开心的。GL~ :)
liangv587
472 posts
Joined April 2013
liangv587
[General]
  1. mp3是193kbps的，要换成192
[Normal]
  1. 00:19:044 (4) - whistle加到滑条头了
  2. 03:44:694 (4,6) - 可以手动错开，低难度读图更容易些
[RLC's Hard]
  1. ar7.5? ar8 is too fast for me
  2. 00:19:044 - 00:19:344 - 00:19:644 - add whistle
  3. 00:28:644 - 00:28:644 - 00:29:244 - add whistle
[Lunatic]
  1. 00:19:044 - 00:19:344 - 00:19:644 - 还是觉得应该加上whistle
  2. 00:28:644 - 00:28:644 - 00:29:244 - 还是觉得应该加
  3. 01:20:694 (4) - 太靠近血条了
  4. 01:22:119 - 漏音？
  5. 04:11:994 (3,4,1) - 其实做对称好看些http://puu.sh/gyiqi.jpg
[Extra Stage Collab]
  1. nice od 9
  2. SB：黑色背景的时候看不到作者，故意的吗
  3. 00:19:044 (2,6,10) - miss whistle
  4. 01:01:044 (4) - overlap with hp-bar
edit：忘了一些音效

perfect
Akasha-
Nomination Assessment Team
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Akasha-
its happening
jonathanlfj
Elite Mapper
2,568 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
jonathanlfj
Thanks for the mods and stars! I have uploaded Love's taiko diffs for now, will be replying to mods later
Love
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Love
:^)
Shad0w1and
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Shad0w1and
Insane
02:13:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 突然变挤了一些，特别是stack的地方。考虑拉开点点，比如02:13:044 (4,1,2) - 构成正三角
SPOILER
02:53:394 (1) - 348,124构成两个正三角
03:01:944 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 修成五角星？：
SPOILER

RLC's Hard
General: Too hard for a Hard. I really got confused while I play because your hitsounds. you might set them at a lower volume, because your mapping dose not really follow drums all the time.

00:14:994 (3,4,1,2) - All notes placed like this could be easier, consider stack some:
SPOILER
03:30:669 (1) - really think this spinner should end earlier, 03:30:669 (1) - here should be a real note
01:50:394 (1,2,3,1) - this does not make sense
02:01:044 (1) - ^
02:24:444 (1) - ^
omit the rest, plz fix them all, its confusing
Normal
General: 还是太难，CS 3.8没道理，我认为至少3.5往下，OD 也应该拉到4
01:41:694 (3,4) - 所有这种背景节奏我认为考虑1/2滑条，因为4实际上并没有相当明显的鼓声
Normal应该考虑更低密度的下点，比如01:52:794 (1,2) - 我认为对Normal是必要的休息和修整，并且不破坏节奏
SPOILER
Last edited by Shad0w1and , edited 1 time in total.
Adol Christin
875 posts
Joined October 2012
Adol Christin
老早就想吐槽了: 干嘛所有国人都只跟RLC写英文啊，好像人家不是国人似的 (你没资格说别人>.<)
Edit: Tbh I prefer previous avatar for Renne, looks more crafty but cute :D
Lavender
886 posts
Joined January 2014
Lavender
M4M

[General]
  1. Please enable epilepsy warning cause the flash at 01:10:194 (1) -
  2. Windows says your mp3 is 192kbps, but AI mod says it is higher. Please have a check.
  3. Hitsound in some part is too noisy, reduce hitsound volume by 10% please.
  4. Auto lead-in 1000ms is not safety, increase it to 1500ms.
[Easy]
  1. 01:28:194 (4,1) - 01:30:594 (3,1) - It's not recommended to place 3/2 gap in easy. That will make newbies click wrongly.
  2. 02:07:194 (1,2) - nazi blanket
  3. 02:29:844 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - I think it's unreasonable, why do you use 1/2 here? Please use 1/1 >:(
The rest is fine to me.

[Normal]
  1. 00:29:994 (2,4) - Maybe don''t stack like this in normal?
  2. 01:57:594 (1,2) - 1/3 reverse slider please.
  3. 02:17:994 (3,4,5,6) - I know the reason why you place 1/2, but I don't like it, and consider it unsafe in normal.
Totally fine.

[RLC's Hard]
  1. 00:29:394 (5) - split to a reverse slider end at 00:29:619 - and a note at 00:29:694 -
  2. 00:39:294 (1) - Ctrl+H
Nothing else to say, RLC god mapper.

[Lunatic]
  1. Your two blue combocolors are similar. Change one of them to purple or other colors.
  2. 00:32:094 (1,2) - Missing clap here, please use 1/2+ note*2 instead.
  3. 00:44:094 (1) - 1/1+note
  4. 00:52:944 (7,1) - stack here?
  5. 01:00:594 (1) - Place up a bit better, consider 144,266
  6. 01:28:494 (5,2) - 01:28:194 (3,1) - 01:28:344 (4,3) - Make the three overlaps in good order please.
  7. 01:34:644 (1,6) - I prefer stack
  8. 01:58:794 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - blacket? like this:
  9. 02:00:894 (5) - Move up a bit will make flow better.
  10. 02:31:569 (6) - delete
  11. 03:16:344 (2,5) - I prefer stack here
  12. 03:45:219 (2) - I suggest change the rhythm to
    because it's in the last kiai time.
Nice diff.

[Extra Stage Collab]
  1. I conisider that I don't have the ability to mod a expert map, but I'll try.
  2. 00:12:744 (7) - Why do you place a stress on the end of a slider? Hit feedback here is bad.
  3. 00:40:494 (1,2,3) - bad flow here.
  4. 00:43:494 (6) - This slider speed seems overdrive orz.
  5. 00:49:494 (3) - split it into 1/2 and note
  6. 00:52:894 - You shouldn't miss a beat here.
  7. 01:28:644 (8) - NC here.
  8. The first kiai seems messy, and the distance between notes is confused. Like 01:37:194 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:38:994 (10,11,12,1) - , I don't know why distance gap between them is huge since music here is the same. See what Kite do :02:29:994 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The jump is reasonable and fit the music.
  9. But Kite changes sv unreasonable.... I don't know what to say, I consider sv should reflect the strength of music, however music here doesn't provide any changes.
  10. 01:40:494 (5,5) - stack nazi
  11. 03:45:594 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - holy shit.. 03:59:694 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) -
In conclusion, I consider this extra playable, but not of good quality comparing to Lunatic diff.

Good luck and have my stars for lunatic diff.
cmn_891127
1,308 posts
Joined July 2010
cmn_891127
[General]
You need change music to CBR 192

the fist kiai section end at the downbeat 01:43:194 (1)?

[Easy]
03:31:794 (1,2,3,4) - it is too loud here, how about clap each 2/1

[Nomral]
01:19:194 (1) - 01:11:994 (1) - the start of slider is missed finish
02:50:994 (1) - ^
03:40:794 (4) - you do not need to add finish here, is it whistle?
04:00:594 (1) - 04:05:394 (1) - the first one, you only have whistle, but the second one you have both whistle and finish

[Hard]
01:16:494 (1) - mute the tail
01:21:894 (1) - ^
02:04:794 (5,1) - increase the distance
02:38:094 (2) - you can add several green line to increase the volume by each note, since clap is too loud for the beginning
04:12:294 (2) - add clap at tail

[Lunatic]
00:39:294 (1) - you need whistle for the whole slider or only the beginning, if you want to use whistle for the whole slider, you missed 00:45:294 (1) -
03:05:394 (3,4) - the tail clap make the rhythm complex
03:20:994 (1) - whistle
03:24:444 (1) - you only set the beginning and connect line of the slider are whislte. and no addtional hitsound at the tail... while imo, the downbeat should have some drum sound

Not in my favorate genre, but it is really a nice map. :D
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