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Is there a reason dans 4-12 don't have bgs?
I keep getting 95.5% on 2 dan oh god help me I hate LN fuck you crack traxx aahahahahrht46
I keep getting 95.5% on 2 dan oh god help me I hate LN fuck you crack traxx aahahahahrht46
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Someone initially wanted to make backgrounds for 4th dan and beyond (he made the first three sets of backgrounds) but he didn't follow up on that and I didn't really poke him for any backgrounds because I don't think it matters very much to begin with.Khelly wrote:
Is there a reason dans 4-12 don't have bgs?
I found submitted maps with bgs. Are these ok to use? They're clones of the actual maps.Shoegazer wrote:
Someone initially wanted to make backgrounds for 4th dan and beyond (he made the first three sets of backgrounds) but he didn't follow up on that and I didn't really poke him for any backgrounds because I don't think it matters very much to begin with.Khelly wrote:
Is there a reason dans 4-12 don't have bgs?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5284182
tfw you've played this game for almost a year and you're not even 0th dan ;_;
I've only played 1 month and I got 95.5% on 3 dan but for this entire month I've been playing 4-7 hours a day everyday mostly unranked. How much do you actually play?
i play about an hour a day lolKhelly wrote:
I've only played 1 month and I got 95.5% on 3 dan but for this entire month I've been playing 4-7 hours a day everyday mostly unranked. How much do you actually play?
if i play too much it feels like i'm getting arthritis
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Yeah, I saw those backgrounds too. Didn't really want to use them because they're really really badly designed - lots of contrasting pictures with little borders to mitigate that and the Calibri textjob isn't really pleasant either.Khelly wrote:
I found submitted maps with bgs. Are these ok to use? They're clones of the actual maps.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5284182
I don't mind if people decide to submit scores under those submitted maps though, but I don't really want to use those backgrounds as "official" backgrounds because I feel that they don't look clean in the slightest.
Do you have Hatsuki Yura - Kaguyahime (Skwid) - Skwid Minipack (link)? The link is dead and I have no clue where to actually find this.
Yeah that link was broken until a few minutes ago. Cool map on HT.Shoegazer wrote:
Here's a link to the pack in which Kaguyahime is in. Changed the individual download link for Kaguyahime in the OP as well.
can I have the old Tachyon dan? deleted the game in a rage and now regretting.
Luminal v1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4ue7kznbmu5n ... l.osz?dl=0isurai wrote:
can I have the old Tachyon dan? deleted the game in a rage and now regretting.
Tachyon v1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gudjhulq3pv0h ... n.osz?dl=0
Do you happen to have Technodildo like you did kaguyahime?
this is mania dan not stepmania dangotta try it out later
Does anyone else feel that Candy Galy is an inappropriate choice for the 4th dan boss map? I know it's supposed to be the hardest map of the set, but bangin burst as the 1 dan set didn't feel at a completely different level than Candy Galy was. (The 2 and 3 dan boss maps didn't feel like boss maps to me but that's a different story.) My mate abraker even had to struggle a little to get past this set with 96% because of candy galy even though he's nearly 5th dan at the moment.
If I compare my own results on the first three maps (on a good day because I've played them too much), then each one is around an S and I end love live somewhere between 94.5-95.5. Candy galy makes me drop all the way down to 91-92; this puts my 4 dan results on par with my 5th dan results. Individually it's barely an A and sometimes a B. Being so far removed in results from the other 4th dan maps really makes me question why it's there. Also dans below 7 haven't been refreshed.
I just have a feeling aiae MX would work better as a boss map. Mostly because I like the idea of MX and SC being 4th -> 5th jump but also because if I compare my results on the first 3 4-dan maps to my aiae MX results, they're about similar. (Actually make candy galy 5th dan and aiae mx 4th huaheuahue)
If I compare my own results on the first three maps (on a good day because I've played them too much), then each one is around an S and I end love live somewhere between 94.5-95.5. Candy galy makes me drop all the way down to 91-92; this puts my 4 dan results on par with my 5th dan results. Individually it's barely an A and sometimes a B. Being so far removed in results from the other 4th dan maps really makes me question why it's there. Also dans below 7 haven't been refreshed.
I just have a feeling aiae MX would work better as a boss map. Mostly because I like the idea of MX and SC being 4th -> 5th jump but also because if I compare my results on the first 3 4-dan maps to my aiae MX results, they're about similar. (Actually make candy galy 5th dan and aiae mx 4th huaheuahue)
i dont think having two charts from the same song will be appropriate. there is actually a lot more maps in the pending/graveyard section thoughKhelly wrote:
I just have a feeling aiae MX would work better as a boss map. Mostly because I like the idea of MX and SC being 4th -> 5th jump but also because if I compare my results on the first 3 4-dan maps to my aiae MX results, they're about similar. (Actually make candy galy 5th dan and aiae mx 4th huaheuahue)
I'd rather see two charts from the same map than having one that is inappropriate in difficulty for its level. But that's just my opinion on candy galy and I don't know how anyone else feels about it.
4k 5th dan clear
http://puu.sh/pXWIu/796d1a5b62.jpg
http://puu.sh/pXWKY/ae2c4baa02.jpg
I can't do fast songs like bangin' burst QAQ
http://puu.sh/pXWIu/796d1a5b62.jpg
http://puu.sh/pXWKY/ae2c4baa02.jpg
I can't do fast songs like bangin' burst QAQ
I don't know what's going onKhelly wrote:
I'd rather see two charts from the same map than having one that is inappropriate in difficulty for its level. But that's just my opinion on candy galy and I don't know how anyone else feels about it.
(18m ago score as #8 on 4 dan)
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5587005 94.2/94.2/94.1/91.9
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5586998 96.5/96.2/95.2/94
This is why I don't think Candy Galy is right but no one else has commented on it yet except Lampranthus and he thinks it's ok.
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Added your score, but do post in the right thread next time: t/304735zero2snow wrote:
4k 5th dan clear
http://puu.sh/pXWIu/796d1a5b62.jpg
http://puu.sh/pXWKY/ae2c4baa02.jpg
I can't do fast songs like bangin' burst QAQ
I initially overestimated the difficulty of Candy Galy mainly because I forgot that there's this steep learning curve that dense jumpstream has that is not present in any of the other charts in 4th dan - there's also the fact that Candy Galy is pretty fast to begin with.Khelly wrote:
I don't know what's going onKhelly wrote:
I'd rather see two charts from the same map than having one that is inappropriate in difficulty for its level. But that's just my opinion on candy galy and I don't know how anyone else feels about it.
(18m ago score as #8 on 4 dan)
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5587005 94.2/94.2/94.1/91.9
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5586998 96.5/96.2/95.2/94
This is why I don't think Candy Galy is right but no one else has commented on it yet except Lampranthus and he thinks it's ok.
It's definitely a mistake on my part, but I'm not sure if I'm going to change songs or not. We could use the same song for different dan courses (the old Luminal dan had AiAe, for example) - but I prefer not to do it unless it's absolutely necessary. I'll try to find a light JS stamina chart eventually.
Deleted and reposting because most of what I said was invalidated with a discovery.
Maybe it's just a mental thing on my part but Candy Galy is weird. I played Japanese Transformation ht (which is od9) and got 91% and looking through the replay, it's the same type of dense JS pattern. (Or not; I only see it being 2 1 2 1 2 1 in the JS parts in terms of how many notes there are just like CG) Meanwhile my best on Candy Galy at od8 is only 92% or so on the individual map BUT that's with 3/4 of the map being nothing but easy to acc fluff so my score on the JS part might as well be like 83%.
Also I think if you want a light stamina JS map you should look at Southern Cross Hard 14 (from some yolomania pack iirc?); I think this is a completely perfect choice and as a bonus it has consistent difficulty and isn't free acc for the first 50% like Candy Galy.
Maybe it's just a mental thing on my part but Candy Galy is weird. I played Japanese Transformation ht (which is od9) and got 91% and looking through the replay, it's the same type of dense JS pattern. (Or not; I only see it being 2 1 2 1 2 1 in the JS parts in terms of how many notes there are just like CG) Meanwhile my best on Candy Galy at od8 is only 92% or so on the individual map BUT that's with 3/4 of the map being nothing but easy to acc fluff so my score on the JS part might as well be like 83%.
Also I think if you want a light stamina JS map you should look at Southern Cross Hard 14 (from some yolomania pack iirc?); I think this is a completely perfect choice and as a bonus it has consistent difficulty and isn't free acc for the first 50% like Candy Galy.
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Nice scores, but do post in the proper thread next time.
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Just going to point out that snover has decided to make a Tachyon v3, because he overestimated the difficulty of a couple of charts in the course. The coruse is overall harder. Should be uploading that in a few days, I'm posting this just as a forewarning for anyone who is trying to go for Tachyon at the moment.
Tachyon v2 scores would be nulled, but you'll still have a flair to show that you have passed an old version of Tachyon regardless. I'm still allowing Tachyon v2 scores however - but that flair will not be your predominant flair unless you have never passed any of the previous dans.
SPOILERt+pazolite with siromaru - Chambarising [Challenge 1.2x] (Evening) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/923888&m=3
DJ Sharpnel - Over the Fullereneshift [Komm, susser Tod 1.4x] (Fullerene-/Wiosna) - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/189224
goreshit - o'er the flood [1.5x] (IcyWorld) - Nuclear Blast 5
LV.4 - Angel Dust [-DESPAIR-] (snover) - Timdam Snackpack
DJ Sharpnel - Over the Fullereneshift [Komm, susser Tod 1.4x] (Fullerene-/Wiosna) - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/189224
goreshit - o'er the flood [1.5x] (IcyWorld) - Nuclear Blast 5
LV.4 - Angel Dust [-DESPAIR-] (snover) - Timdam Snackpack
Tachyon v2 scores would be nulled, but you'll still have a flair to show that you have passed an old version of Tachyon regardless. I'm still allowing Tachyon v2 scores however - but that flair will not be your predominant flair unless you have never passed any of the previous dans.
I think it's in poor taste to make an official version of a dan that uses rates for the courses instead of 1.0 maps.
Would any v3 of dan 1 through luminal use 1.1 up or 0.9 and down? If not then why is Tachyon different?
Would any v3 of dan 1 through luminal use 1.1 up or 0.9 and down? If not then why is Tachyon different?
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Limited variety of charts is really the only reason why rates are used. Nobody really makes charts of super high difficulty, even less so when it comes to charts that are actually compatible for the given difficulty range that Tachyon has (skillsets as well). This won't be the case for any dan lower than Tachyon because there are ample charts in that range that can be picked from.Khelly wrote:
I think it's in poor taste to make an official version of a dan that uses rates for the courses instead of 1.0 maps.
Would any v3 of dan 1 through luminal use 1.1 up or 0.9 and down? If not then why is Tachyon different?
There probably won't be v3 dan courses. I personally didn't really want to do much with the other dan courses (except for maybe 4th and 8th dans) because I think it'll just be a never-ending cycle of what can be improved on, but it was a contribution on snover's part and I didn't really see a strong reason to reject the idea given that Tachyon v2 has an unintended difficulty drop (Exile). Same applies for 4th dan and 8th dan, but in the opposite direction (difficulty spikes).
Hi shoegazer
I got really bored today because I wasn't playing well at all and I decided to re-imagine the 4th dan course because I think it's the only one that's really bad. Tell me how bad you think the map selection is (or not :<) because today I've been polling every 3-4d player (Who has played current 4 dan) I know.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/505947
I got really bored today because I wasn't playing well at all and I decided to re-imagine the 4th dan course because I think it's the only one that's really bad. Tell me how bad you think the map selection is (or not :<) because today I've been polling every 3-4d player (Who has played current 4 dan) I know.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/505947
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What is the third song in 4th dan? Never seen that chart before. The difficulty range seems generally fine, but the sync is a bit wonky - which can be amended manually anyway.
Shoegazer wrote:
What is the third song in 4th dan? Never seen that chart before. The difficulty range seems generally fine, but the sync is a bit wonky - which can be amended manually anyway.
Christraping black breakcore
I am unaware of where I got it in stepmania (and as an osu mania convert)
It's from yolo 2 if I remember correctlyKhelly wrote:
Christraping black breakcore
I am unaware of where I got it in stepmania (and as an osu mania convert)
Dan 4 = yolomania
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4th Dan and Tachyon courses have been updated. You have 24 hours as of this post to submit your 4th Dan v1/Tachyon v2 scores. No other courses have been affected.
DL link to updated dan courses
This will probably be the last time Tachyon will be updated, and probably the last time the dan courses will be updated in general. Like before, there will be new leaderboards, and your flair will be differentiated from the older passes if you pass this course. Tachyon v3 is noticeably harder than Tachyon v2. 4th Dan v2 should be noticeably easier than 4th Dan v1, due to the absence of Candy Galy (and being substituted with an easier chart). As usual, thanks for the people involved. Their names have been credited accordingly in the metadata of the dan courses.
DL link to updated dan courses
SPOILER4th Dan (δ-4)
OSTER project - Devilz Sacrifice (Fullerene-) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/563157
Bach ft. West Village - Black Cloak Skeleton (porkypink) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/563157
XACKSECKS - Christraping Black Breakcore (MrTea) - Yolomania Vol. 2
Alex c. feat. Yasmin K. - Angel of Darkness (Leo137) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/563157
Tachyon (ε-δ)
t+pazolite with siromaru - Chambarising [Challenge 1.2x] (Evening) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/923888&m=3
DJ Sharpnel - Cyber Induction (cut) [1.4x] (IcyWorld) - Nuclear Blast 4
Camellia - shadows of cats [1.2x] (Wafles) - Dump Parade
LV.4 - Angel Dust [-DESPAIR-] (snover) - timdam snackpack
OSTER project - Devilz Sacrifice (Fullerene-) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/563157
Bach ft. West Village - Black Cloak Skeleton (porkypink) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/563157
XACKSECKS - Christraping Black Breakcore (MrTea) - Yolomania Vol. 2
Alex c. feat. Yasmin K. - Angel of Darkness (Leo137) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/563157
t+pazolite with siromaru - Chambarising [Challenge 1.2x] (Evening) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/923888&m=3
DJ Sharpnel - Cyber Induction (cut) [1.4x] (IcyWorld) - Nuclear Blast 4
Camellia - shadows of cats [1.2x] (Wafles) - Dump Parade
LV.4 - Angel Dust [-DESPAIR-] (snover) - timdam snackpack
This will probably be the last time Tachyon will be updated, and probably the last time the dan courses will be updated in general. Like before, there will be new leaderboards, and your flair will be differentiated from the older passes if you pass this course. Tachyon v3 is noticeably harder than Tachyon v2. 4th Dan v2 should be noticeably easier than 4th Dan v1, due to the absence of Candy Galy (and being substituted with an easier chart). As usual, thanks for the people involved. Their names have been credited accordingly in the metadata of the dan courses.
Barely cleared 4th dan v2 in one try, while my best in v1 is 95.05%.
If this is intended, thanks khelly.
If this is intended, thanks khelly.
snover had the idea for tachyon v3
eze updated the v3 on 9/11
so I guess the truth is finland + singapore teamed up to do 9/11
edit: it's true guys
edit v2: one of the masterminds decided to help me
eze updated the v3 on 9/11
so I guess the truth is finland + singapore teamed up to do 9/11
edit: it's true guys
edit v2: one of the masterminds decided to help me
InabaYap wrote:
Barely cleared 4th dan v2 in one try, while my best in v1 is 95.05%.
If this is intended, thanks khelly.
This is very much intended; candy galy (and honestly the other maps but they were ok) made 4 dan v1 unfun to play and clear even if you were at that skill level imo. I had to skip 4th and get 5th first because of that. Hopefully more people can be encouraged now to clear 4th dan.
The first map should be relatively easy introduction to 4th dan but still test JS and jumptrill skills that I don't remember if 3rd dan has at all because 4th dan starts the transition into Stepmania mapping styles. I think anyone who's progressed past 4th dan will find this map completely 99% trivial, but for a new 3rd dan who's decided "I want to test out 4th dan", you can't exactly play it on autopilot.
If you learn to play the 2nd map well you should be prepared for learning to play that was too slow in 5th dan since jacking becomes a skill at this point.
The third map is a speed map where you might need to (or not) learn that you can jumptrill the 4321 4321 patterns like in the burst in Grief and Malice. The various repeated patterns especially at the end remind me of 403 forbidden in a way. It might seem a bit too long but in terms of note count the maps are still weighted 20/20/30/30 roughly.
The 4th map is a better light (and sometimes dense) stamina jumpstream map. Personally I don't think it's as hard as Black cloak skeleton or Breakcore, but it fits the theme of the last map being stamina JS like in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, and 10th(?) dan. If you're attempting to clear 4th dan and don't have better stamina it'll probably be really hard seeing as you just came from playing breakcore.