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[Crz]Player
nice :)
Fullerene-
gotta go fast
lemonguy
Posted this in the main Dan thread too, but it belongs here specifically:

The second song of Dan 5 is significantly harder than the rest of the Dan 5 songs, and I believe it doesn't belong in Dan 5. It is harder than most of the Dan 6 stuff too IMO. Need more opinions on that. (I actually believe that it is harder than all of the Dan 6 songs).
The last song in Dan 7 is completely slow jam, and it is very hard to play for that reason. Dan 7 needs to be fixed before anyone tries it.

Other than those changes, I think the 4K Dans are really good, and should stay as they are.
Halogen-
didn't realize Luminal changed to include Japanese Transformation; never getting Luminal rip lol
lemonguy
lol I'm never passing Luminal now
Tidek

Shxfted wrote:

Posted this in the main Dan thread too, but it belongs here specifically:

The second song of Dan 5 is significantly harder than the rest of the Dan 5 songs, and I believe it doesn't belong in Dan 5. It is harder than most of the Dan 6 stuff too IMO. Need more opinions on that. (I actually believe that it is harder than all of the Dan 6 songs).
The last song in Dan 7 is completely slow jam, and it is very hard to play for that reason. Dan 7 needs to be fixed before anyone tries it.

Other than those changes, I think the 4K Dans are really good, and should stay as they are.
Yup completely agree, 2nd song in 5th is a lot harder than rest ( i got similar accuracy on 5th and 6th dan only because of that map).
I recommend to put 2nd song from 5th dan instead of 3rd song in 6th. (and find something new and balanced for 2nd song in 5th dan).

Also, osu!mania is not Stepmania and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND to remove those stupid 1/8 1/16 or even 1/24 LNs which are pretty impossible to acc (just change them into normal note). 4K dan courses depends on accuracy so please dont troll ppl with those accuracy breaking stupid short LNs.

And 7th Dan needs to be fixed, scroll speed on 3rd and last song is slower (feels like a slowjam).
Jinjin
lol epsilon-delta, are we trying to formally prove limits here

nice job tho ^^ hopefully our 4k and 7k courses will be used often in mania :)
Fullerene-
I'll fix the SVs on all the dans and reupload in .osz in a few hours, sit tight
_underjoy
Maybe instead of this 5 dan 2nd song Danshi? :P
Fullerene-

TheZiemniax wrote:

Maybe instead of this 5 dan 2nd song Danshi? :P
5th dan should have 1 jacky chart in it, currently I think True Millennium Queen is fine (and the easiest in 5th) but if it needs to be changed, it'll happen.
Tidek

Fullerene- wrote:

TheZiemniax wrote:

Maybe instead of this 5 dan 2nd song Danshi? :P
5th dan should have 1 jacky chart in it, currently I think True Millennium Queen is fine (and the easiest in 5th) but if it needs to be changed, it'll happen.
The main thing that makes True Millennium Queen significantly harder then rest is pretty high amount of 3-chords (hands) in that long and constant 1/3 chord stream.
Probably it depends of player, will wait for more opinions : P
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Shoegazer

Shxfted wrote:

Posted this in the main Dan thread too, but it belongs here specifically:

The second song of Dan 5 is significantly harder than the rest of the Dan 5 songs, and I believe it doesn't belong in Dan 5. It is harder than most of the Dan 6 stuff too IMO. Need more opinions on that. (I actually believe that it is harder than all of the Dan 6 songs).
The last song in Dan 7 is completely slow jam, and it is very hard to play for that reason. Dan 7 needs to be fixed before anyone tries it.

Other than those changes, I think the 4K Dans are really good, and should stay as they are.
I found True Millennium Queen to be really really easy, but maybe it's because I'm good at jacks? The 120 BPM handgluts weren't that bad for me personally, but I can see what you mean with the 160 BPM jacks. I'll replace it with something, but I'll have to look.

Also fixed 7th dan SV changes. I'll update it in the future.

Tidek wrote:

Yup completely agree, 2nd song in 5th is a lot harder than rest ( i got similar accuracy on 5th and 6th dan only because of that map).
I recommend to put 2nd song from 5th dan instead of 3rd song in 6th. (and find something new and balanced for 2nd song in 5th dan).

Also, osu!mania is not Stepmania and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND to remove those stupid 1/8 1/16 or even 1/24 LNs which are pretty impossible to acc (just change them into normal note). 4K dan courses depends on accuracy so please dont troll ppl with those accuracy breaking stupid short LNs.

And 7th Dan needs to be fixed, scroll speed on 3rd and last song is slower (feels like a slowjam).
I didn't think this was very much of an issue at the time, I'll fix the LNs regardless. Thanks for pointing that out, I'm retarded.
Kaito-kun
Just pointing a small error on the dropbox file. The 1st to 3rd Dan file only has the first 2 Dans, and not the 3rd Dan. Everything else is good. Good work up until now. Keep it up :D
Jinjin

KaitoKid1998 wrote:

Just pointing a small error on the dropbox file. The 1st to 3rd Dan file only has the first 2 Dans, and not the 3rd Dan. Everything else is good. Good work up until now. Keep it up :D
3rd dan hasn't been finished yet. He's planning to upload it by the end of the day. Cheers
Topic Starter
Shoegazer
Yeah, I'll be adding the 3rd dan soon.

Replacing True Millennium Queen with That Was Too Slow [Hayaku! Hayaku!] and swapping Megitsune and Trapce.
Topic Starter
Shoegazer
Double tost.

5th, 7th to 9th dans have been updated. Redownload those if you downloaded those dans prior to this update.

5th Dan:
Shiraishi - True Millennium Queen -> Ranzor - That Was Too Slow [Hayaku! Hayaku!]

7th Dan:
SVs have been fixed.

8th Dan:
BABYMETAL - Megitsune -> Nhtonius - Trapce

9th Dan:
Nhtonius - Trapce -> BABYMETAL - Megitsune

All scores for 5th, 8th and 9th dans prior to this update will be invalidated. All scores for 7th dan will still be there. I apologise for the inconvenience caused.

Short LNs will be removed in a further update when I figure out how this osu editor works.
Marirose
wow,these 4K courses are marvelous : O
Kaito-kun

iJinjin wrote:

KaitoKid1998 wrote:

Just pointing a small error on the dropbox file. The 1st to 3rd Dan file only has the first 2 Dans, and not the 3rd Dan. Everything else is good. Good work up until now. Keep it up :D
3rd dan hasn't been finished yet. He's planning to upload it by the end of the day. Cheers
Ok. Then there's no actual problem :P
Topic Starter
Shoegazer
There will be an update in 4th dan, Portal wasn't too happy with his selection of maps and he wanted to change it. For now, don't play the 4th dan. I'll remove it from the DL link for now.

This will -hopefully- be the last update regarding the mappool.
lemonguy
Look at what your course did to my key:
JamesHappy

Shxfted wrote:

Look at what your course did to my key:
rekt
Evening

Shxfted wrote:

Look at what your course did to my key:
#thanksobama
dionzz99

Shxfted wrote:

Look at what your course did to my key:
wow.gif

A-Moe - Bagpipe [Rebound] Dan 6

totally creeps me out

karena duda.. karena duda
Grassgrow
This is a really great idea, I like it a lot! I've been having a lot of fun preparing for and playing the first two Dans, i'm not that good but I am really proud that I managed to pass the first two Dans above 96%!
puxtu
sweg
NeonPhoenix_old

Shoegazer wrote:

They range from the very accessible 1st and 2nd dans where even the newest 4K players can try out
How exactly are these accessible? I tried out the first two 1st dan maps and I couldn't hope to pass either of them in a million years, let alone get 96%. I don't understand.
lenpai

NeonPhoenix wrote:

Shoegazer wrote:

They range from the very accessible 1st and 2nd dans where even the newest 4K players can try out
How exactly are these accessible? I tried out the first two 1st dan maps and I couldn't hope to pass either of them in a million years, let alone get 96%. I don't understand.
Welp I think they aren't beginner friendly at all, unlike 7k, 4k only has one dan set which may be the reason why the statting sets aren't really for beginners. And the Dan title irl is something.

Probably a change in description will be needed or if planned, an extension.
Topic Starter
Shoegazer

NeonPhoenix wrote:

Shoegazer wrote:

They range from the very accessible 1st and 2nd dans where even the newest 4K players can try out
How exactly are these accessible? I tried out the first two 1st dan maps and I couldn't hope to pass either of them in a million years, let alone get 96%. I don't understand.
Yeah "very accessible" is probably a bit of a stretch in hindsight, at least for clearing. Admittedly have played too much and too long to really determine what's "very accessible for new players" and what's not at this point. I'll just change the wording slightly to be more accurate.

...I do think you're unnecessarily exaggerating when you say that you probably wouldn't be able to get those in a long time though, just play more and improvement will come before you know it.

@Lenfried: I don't think I'll implement easier dans for 4K admittedly, I'm personally far too inexperienced at lower levels and I don't know many people who would be willing to help out with the super low-end stuff to begin with. It'd be a neat idea though, but it'd probably be 5 dans at best regardless.

In other news, 3rd dan should be uploaded soon. I apologise for the delay, Portal has been pretty busy.
PouletFurtif
I'd love have beginner Dans so my friends would be able to compete. But well I understand you want Dans to be reserved for experienced players.
Gj.
CephiCC
sorry for my inexperience with custom mapsets and things, but osu won't open the .osu files for the courses and refuses to accept the rar either. or the folder. What do?
Yuzeyun
Tachyon (ε-δ)
Manabu Namiki - Tenshi (Full Version) [XozInfinite] [_Gezo_]
Tenshi was, is, and will never be a standard for high difficulty Infinite.
Wait for Xoz Infinite 5 and 6.
lenpai

CephiCC wrote:

sorry for my inexperience with custom mapsets and things, but osu won't open the .osu files for the courses and refuses to accept the rar either. or the folder. What do?
Somehow complex if you don't know how to do stuff.
Extract the rar file.
Compress any folder in the rar you want as zip
Change the zip extension to osz
Open the osz
Done!

When a certain amount of ppl pass tachyon, we need tachyon beta *cough *cough Mad Matt *cough
CephiCC

Lenfried- wrote:

CephiCC wrote:

sorry for my inexperience with custom mapsets and things, but osu won't open the .osu files for the courses and refuses to accept the rar either. or the folder. What do?
Somehow complex if you don't know how to do stuff.
Extract the rar file.
Compress any folder in the rar you want as zip
Change the zip extension to osz
Open the osz
Done!
Oh my. Why not just make the files into the osz file from the get-go? (Thanks a bunch though <3)
lenpai
Jut thought of an alternative to make the folders work.
Copy paste a folder in the songs folder in oss program files
Open oss and hit f5
I think that works
Lapis-
Sorry for keeping everyone waiting on 3rd dan. Should be up today, I handed the file to Shoegazer to be synced properly etc.

4th dan is incoming, just finalizing the song list.
Bobbias

Lenfried- wrote:

Jut thought of an alternative to make the folders work.
Copy paste a folder in the songs folder in oss program files
Open oss and hit f5
I think that works
Yeah, that'll work fine (provided osu doesn't just glitch and ignore the folders. I've seen that happen before.)
Topic Starter
Shoegazer
Ultra late update, but better late than never I guess.

3rd dan has been added.

4th dan has been changed, Bangin' Burst has been replaced with Escapes, and the order overall has been changed. All 4th dan scores before this will be invalidated, apologise for the inconvenience.

The 7th dan has some sync problems, mainly because the SM to osu converter I have has the tendency to make some of the maps drift more and more offsync for some reason. They'll be resolved soon, but for now - this will be the last update regarding the content of the dans themselves. Other updates will be sync changes and the files being .oszs (I didn't really think that this was a problem, mainly because I've been used to manually putting in the songs in the songs folder - but didn't know that not many people knew how to add maps manually here.)
xch00F
nice files
gonna attempt these to see where I sit atm with downscroll
DoNotMess
http://puu.sh/h9py3/dc2c4a407e.jpg this is freakin hard...i can't make it further anymore
Remi94
Not sure if it is an error or was made like that but the first song in dan 4 is all in slowjam :'v
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