Option to adjust the Approach Circle's starting size.

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Deva

Bauxe wrote:

Not at all, the circles would still close over the same time period, the speed would be adjusted.
Im sorry but peppy cant change the laws of physics.
Dephix

HK_ wrote:

Bad idea. Would make higher ARs easier. Would be same as asking for custom AR on every map.
this wouldn't change the AR, this is about changing the speed of approach circles.
Deva

Dephix wrote:

HK_ wrote:

Bad idea. Would make higher ARs easier. Would be same as asking for custom AR on every map.
this wouldn't change the AR, this is about changing the speed of approach circles.
In orded for approach circle to cover smaller distance during same amount of time its speed has to DECREASE and thus AR11 could be made AR9 just by decreasing travel distance enough.

BAD IDEA.

But if you are willing to change the laws of physics and actually increase the speed im all for it.
Bauxe

HK_ wrote:

In orded for approach circle to cover smaller distance during same amount of time its speed has to DECREASE and thus AR11 could be made AR9 just by decreasing travel distance enough.

BAD IDEA.

But if you are willing to change the laws of physics and actually increase the speed im all for it.
AR11 refers to the circles closing over 300ms. AR9 refers to the circles closing over 600ms. The distance the circles travel in closing is already affected by circle size. You are completely incorrect.
Deva

Bauxe wrote:

HK_ wrote:

In orded for approach circle to cover smaller distance during same amount of time its speed has to DECREASE and thus AR11 could be made AR9 just by decreasing travel distance enough.

BAD IDEA.

But if you are willing to change the laws of physics and actually increase the speed im all for it.
AR11 refers to the circles closing over 300ms. AR9 refers to the circles closing over 600ms. The distance the circles travel in closing is already affected by circle size. You are completely incorrect.
THE SPEED OF IT CLOSING IN WOULD BE THE SAME.

AR11 isnt so hard because it takes 300ms to hit the hit circle but because AR11 takes 300ms to cross the SAME DISTANCE it takes AR10 450ms which means that its velocity increases. If you simply decrease that distance enough AR11 would become slower than AR10 and thus easier. And AR11 obviously shouldnt be easier than AR10.
Bara-
No need to caps and/or double post for this. It's about the time, not the speed. Also, larger approachcircles will make it go faster, but the time you need to look at it is much shorter
I like this idea
Bauxe

HK_ wrote:

AR11 isnt so hard because it takes 300ms to hit the hit circle but because AR11 takes 300ms to cross the SAME DISTANCE it takes AR10 450ms which means that its velocity increases. If you simply decrease that distance enough AR11 would become slower than AR10 and thus easier. And AR11 obviously shouldnt be easier than AR10.
Do you really think this would be implemented in a way that causes this?

If this were to be implemented, the speed the circle closes would be faster in order to cover an increased distance in the same period of time.
Deva

Bauxe wrote:

Do you really think this would be implemented in a way that causes this?

If this were to be implemented, the speed the circle closes would be faster in order to cover an increased distance in the same period of time.
Are you aware that you are trying to turn my statement against me?

Im pretty sure we were talking about decreasing the distance and increasing the speed while at it. Please dont use my statements to defend against them.

baraatje123 wrote:

It's about the time, not the speed. Also, larger approachcircles will make it go faster, but the time you need to look at it is much shorter
I like this idea
He said that time stays the same so its not about the time but speed. He also said that he wanted smaller approach circles that go faster not larger.

I used edit. You happy now?
Yauxo
Can you finally stop trying to use "AR11 here, AR11 there" in every damn opinion you post? We dont effing care about AR11. Jeez.
Edit, because I wont post a new post because of that: I give up. I cant help you and I dont think that you'd be willing to be helped. But hey, let's not connect new combos with the followpoint, it could kill AR11 hurr durr

Ontopic: I know that I personally wont use it, but it looks like something people might want, so halfsupport I guess?
Deva

Yauxo wrote:

Can you finally stop trying to use "AR11 here, AR11 there" in every damn opinion you post? We dont effing care about AR11. Jeez.
You actually dont care about anything i say so why sould i listen to you?
Also i just use AR11 where i see it fit. If i think it fits everywhere ill just use it everywhere.
Bara-
You're constantly talking about ar 11 would be easier then ar 10 this way, difference between those, are times, not velocities
Also, the speed goes up, but the time it is om-screen stays the same, thus the difficulty doesn't get changed (as it's still 300ms)
It only ease reading for a few players
Deva
But you never actually look at the whole approach circle (except really low ARs). Thats why if you simply reduced its size to what you actually can catch it will make everything easier because at that moment you can see it it will be slower.
Bara-
The object still appears at the same time, I for example don't look much the approachcircles, but the hitcircles
Speed of the approachcircles doesn't matter to that
Deva
Im sick of repeating same thing over and over again. Just dont cry if it gets implemented. hahaha lol nope
Bara-
You know you're the only one against it, right?
Topic Starter
abraker
Apperently my own thread got bumped, and I didn't even get an email notification :/ Anyway...

HK_ wrote:

Bad idea. Would make higher ARs easier. Would be same as asking for custom AR on every map.
This is idea has nothing to do with changing AR. The AR depends on the rate the approach circles appear compared to when you need to hit them. This is just asking to allow a size change. This means that smaller approach circle will get smaller slower and huge approach circles get smaller faster to compensate for the rate from the time which they appear to the time to which they need to be hit.

HK_ wrote:

He also said that he wanted smaller approach circles that go faster not larger.
Wait... what?
Deva

abraker wrote:

This means that smaller approach circle will get smaller slower and huge approach circles get smaller faster
Exactly that is the problem what im talking about. Because lets say you focus at approach circle when it traveled half of the distance already. If you actually set starting distance to be the half of the original its approach rate will decrease and like that you get lower AR which is easier to read.

If nothing else at least you arent trying to change the laws of physics like others...
Bauxe

HK_ wrote:

abraker wrote:

This means that smaller approach circle will get smaller slower and huge approach circles get smaller faster
Exactly that is the problem what im talking about. Because lets say you focus at approach circle when it traveled half of the distance already. If you actually set starting distance to be the half of the original its approach rate will decrease and like that you get lower AR which is easier to read.

If nothing else at least you arent trying to change the laws of physics like others...
What does this have to do with the laws of physics?

Approach rate is difficult at higher values because of the time you have to react from when the circle appears, not due to where the approach circle is.
Topic Starter
abraker
HK_, I believe your understanding of AR is not right. Can you define "approach rate" for me just to be sure we are on the same page, please?
Bauxe
This should help you understand how it will work HK_

http://puu.sh/iuzHj/34f7ec81ef.mp4
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