22:35 *Rayz141 is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/641599 Printemps - UNBALANCED LOVE [Hyper]] <osu!mania> |8K|
22:37 dosyeru: sup
22:38 Rayz141: want irc
22:38 Rayz141: or just post to forum
22:38 dosyeru: ok
22:39 dosyeru: i dont mind either way, hm
22:39 dosyeru: lets do irc cuz we just started chat
22:39 Rayz141: k
22:39 *Rayz141 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/650091 Printemps - UNBALANCED LOVE [Beginner]]
22:41 Rayz141: maybe we should bump beginner and normal a bit up
22:41 dosyeru: this map set is not solid yet. im aware of inconsistence and misplacement
22:41 dosyeru: sure
22:42 dosyeru: wait, beginner too?
22:42 Rayz141: yes
22:42 dosyeru: hm
22:43 Rayz141: kinda feels too empty imo
22:43 dosyeru: i know
22:44 dosyeru: i map diss diff to let real beginner players pass at first play
22:44 dosyeru: i guess they may fail even this difficulity
22:47 Rayz141: for now i'll point out parts where imo you can add notes while keeping it easy af
22:47 dosyeru: do i underestimate those players too much 'A' ?
22:47 dosyeru: hm let see
22:49 Rayz141: since 7+1K maps are kinda rare
22:49 Rayz141: and BMS/IIDX charts are not that easy
22:49 Rayz141: i guess the players weren't that inexperienced
22:49 dosyeru: :p
22:51 dosyeru: that's true, especially players who love to play 7+1 K are not beginner level
22:52 Rayz141: 00:21:136 - here
22:52 dosyeru: i know but why i prepare beginner diff is this community has other 3 game mode
22:52 dosyeru: and those players dont have playing experience
22:52 dosyeru: im trying to let those play mania, 7+1K
22:52 dosyeru: seemingly my attempts failed tho
22:52 dosyeru: let's see anyway
22:52 Rayz141: 00:28:941 - here
22:52 dosyeru: hm
22:53 Rayz141: 00:30:892 - 
22:53 Rayz141: 00:32:843 - 
22:54 Rayz141: 00:45:039 (45039|5) - is this drum?
22:54 dosyeru: to keep 1/4 rhythm
22:55 dosyeru: let's say, part of the bass guitar and synth?
22:56 Rayz141: k then
22:56 Rayz141: tho imo just delete it
22:57 Rayz141: 01:02:112 - add here
22:57 Rayz141: 01:06:014 - 
22:58 Rayz141: 01:35:648 (95648|5,96014|3) - wait, but you did this here
23:00 dosyeru: yeah cuz this point is main chorus so player can prepare thier mind set to hit these rhythm?
23:02 dosyeru: and maybe i mapped this because kick drum and bass guitar play the same rhythm so it strong enough to map like that
23:02 Rayz141: if the "new" players played other rhythm games pretty sure they'd notice 00:45:039 (45039|5) - was kinda awkward
23:03 dosyeru: hm, then let me change it
23:03 Rayz141: 01:34:795 - add here
23:03 Rayz141: 01:37:234 - here too
23:04 Rayz141: 01:45:039 - and here
23:04 Rayz141: 01:46:990 - here
23:04 Rayz141: 01:48:941 - <
23:06 Rayz141: 01:56:258 - since you do this earlier 01:54:795 (114795|6,115039|5,115282|4) - might as well add one there
23:07 dosyeru: hm, ok
23:08 dosyeru: added all except 01:34:795
23:08 dosyeru: i felt note was not needed there
23:09 dosyeru: maybe because it keeps 1/2 rhythm
23:09 Rayz141: well then
23:09 *Rayz141 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/648655 Printemps - UNBALANCED LOVE [Normal]]
23:12 Rayz141: 00:19:673 (19673|0) - what is this supposed to follow
23:13 dosyeru: snare drums which sounds like SFX
23:14 Rayz141: oh
23:15 dosyeru: too many sounds are there, and it is tough to distinguish the sounds because of the sound of bass guitar
23:15 Rayz141: 00:20:160 (20160|5,20282|3,20404|5,20526|3,20648|5) - this is more personal but
23:16 dosyeru: huehue
23:16 Rayz141: back when i couldn't even clear Neurotoxin on Normal
23:16 Rayz141: this is annoying
23:16 dosyeru: hue...
23:17 dosyeru: well, i need remap then
23:17 dosyeru: i used trills a lot in N diff
23:17 Rayz141: maybe at least add extra note for the drums?
23:18 dosyeru: is it going to be easier?
23:18 Rayz141: dunno for easier
23:18 Rayz141: but less annoying
23:19 Rayz141: though repattern maybe better
23:19 dosyeru: i guess i followed wrong sounds for N diff
23:21 dosyeru: do you feel same thing at the last part
23:21 dosyeru: ?
23:21 dosyeru: from 01:36:258 (96258|1) -
23:21 Rayz141: well
23:21 dosyeru: those follow the same sounds, but i changed the patterns from 01:36:258
23:22 Rayz141: for B/N diffs i suggest to follow the most obvious sounds there
23:22 Rayz141: the sounds you can hear even with a cheap speaker
23:23 dosyeru: alright let me remap
23:23 dosyeru: how about from 00:35:770 (35770|2) - ?
23:24 dosyeru: anything you notice?
23:25 Rayz141: 00:41:624 (41624|1,41746|5,41868|1,42112|5,42356|3,42478|5,42599|1,42721|5,42843|1) - trills here
23:26 Rayz141: 00:43:575 - but not here
23:26 dosyeru: huwahaha
23:26 Rayz141: they might press 00:43:575 (43575|2,43819|4,44063|6) - too quickly because of it
23:26 dosyeru: ah, i followed different sounds
23:27 dosyeru: hm
23:27 dosyeru: how about if i added a note at 00:43:697?
23:27 dosyeru: 00:43:697 (43697|1) -
23:28 Rayz141: sure
23:28 Rayz141: also here 00:44:673 - 
23:32 Rayz141: 00:53:819 - and 00:54:795 - may want to keep drums mapped
23:32 Rayz141: 00:57:721 - also here
23:32 Rayz141: 00:58:697 - and here
23:33 Rayz141: 01:01:502 (61502|2,61868|2,62234|2,62478|2) - uh what is this?
23:34 dosyeru: some rhythm of bass guitar...
23:34 dosyeru: ...
23:37 Rayz141: maybe follow other sounds there?
23:37 Rayz141: i do hear it faintly tho
23:40 dosyeru: sure
23:41 dosyeru: that's it?
23:41 Rayz141: i think that's it
23:42 Rayz141: aside from repatterning the trills
23:42 dosyeru: yeah i need a bit of time to remap
23:42 dosyeru: gotta reorganize
23:45 *Rayz141 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/641599 Printemps - UNBALANCED LOVE [Hyper]]
23:46 Rayz141: 01:19:185 (79185|0) - maybe delete this? feels like it was following piano instead of the snare
23:46 Rayz141: or whatever sound is that
23:47 Rayz141: other than that, nothing wrong i guess
23:48 dosyeru: hm, im gonna try remapping that
23:48 dosyeru: i cant decide immediately
23:48 Rayz141: but 00:20:160 - until 00:24:063 - really reminds me of V and V2
23:48 Rayz141: lol
23:49 dosyeru: haha
23:49 dosyeru: hahaha...
23:49 dosyeru: i guess patterns are exactly the same
23:49 dosyeru: maybe
23:49 dosyeru: i didnt copy tho
23:50 dosyeru: well this map-set is not solid and still brief draft
23:50 dosyeru: will change a lot
23:50 Rayz141: o
23:52 Rayz141: no comment for another
23:53 Rayz141: 2noob2understand ;w;
23:53 dosyeru: me to
23:53 dosyeru: o
23:53 dosyeru: im not ready to map insame BMS chart