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[invalid] Raise max amount of qualified maps allowed per day

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Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Please
Having to wait for Qualification is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard

But... Removing the half of the BN so the cap isn't reached earlier is like 1000x worse
Why on earth should you punish BN for doing their job?
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
What the hell?
Lust
osu! Alumni
2,667 posts
Joined January 2013
Lust
Lach you know all too well that isn't going to fly in the new system. We are simulating modding v2, where anyone can nominate a beatmap once they reach a certain modder score. It would be unfair to those who hit the score requirement to be demoted. Sure slowing down is always good, but you can't expect 100+ people to slow down/not do anything at the same time.
Sonnyc
7,753 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
Was gonna link a puush, but already something was here lol and lol again haha
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
I guess i'll just get my monthly icons via bubbling instead
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,528 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat

Sakura wrote:

I guess i'll just get my monthly icons via bubbling instead
meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
meii18
For me is better to raise max amount of qualified maps :)
LordRaika
Elite Mapper
1,438 posts
Joined September 2013
LordRaika

Lust wrote:

Lach you know all too well that isn't going to fly in the new system. We are simulating modding v2, where anyone can nominate a beatmap once they reach a certain modder score. It would be unfair to those who hit the score requirement to be demoted. Sure slowing down is always good, but you can't expect 100+ people to slow down/not do anything at the same time.
agree....
especially what will happen to other mode?
BN here just doing their job...

if what they qualify is really bad, QAT can DQ it and the BN got some punishment, simple and fair isn't it?


so i really agree on raising the cap especially give some other mode a different cap or whatever
Starry-
osu! Alumni
1,074 posts
Joined December 2012
Starry-
To be completely honest, I don't specifically think raising the cap will solve our issue because there will be a point where it'll be the exact same, provided we have more mappers and BNs in the future. I believe there has to be a new dynamic in terms of ranking a beatmap and quality control.
Perhaps raising the cap slightly will give us a temporary fix until a new modding system arrives. There definitely needs to be some sort of change, though.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
More BNs per map to get it qualified?
Sonnyc
7,753 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc

Sakura wrote:

More BNs per map to get it qualified?
3 nominates for a qualify will be the best alternative for now imo, and will need a discuss in the RC forum then o.o
Lust
osu! Alumni
2,667 posts
Joined January 2013
Lust
3 nominations for qualify is how things are actually supposed to be in moddingv2 iirc
Lach
1,118 posts
Joined November 2012
Lach

Lust wrote:

3 nominations for qualify is how things are actually supposed to be in moddingv2 iirc
If this is already supposed to be a simulation, and that is intended to be part of the new system why isn't this already happening? What we have now is something like running large scale theoretical simulations on your dads old desktop pc, as none of the actual framework for the system is in place (aside from adding a lot of people to the old bat group)

Either cut the size of the team, or raise the map limit and the QAT head count.

Also, is this much of an issue on week days? As I recall, weekends almost always hit the limit.
Lust
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2013
Lust
A lot of how things are now still linger on old legacy ideas in order for things to transition smoother. I'd agree though, we should be simulating modding v2 more than how we are doing things currently.
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
If it'll become 3 for qualify, how will it be for approved? 4?
Lust, please reply to my pm
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
Something mode-specific needs to be done. Else, that what Starry- wrote:

Starry- wrote:

To be completely honest, I don't specifically think raising the cap will solve our issue because there will be a point where it'll be the exact same, provided we have more mappers and BNs in the future. I believe there has to be a new dynamic in terms of ranking a beatmap and quality control.
Perhaps raising the cap slightly will give us a temporary fix until a new modding system arrives. There definitely needs to be some sort of change, though.
Birdy
5,720 posts
Joined April 2011
Birdy
first to vote fuck yea
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,844 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru

Sea_Food wrote:

Lach wrote:

Looking at those recently qualified maps, maybe the solution is not to increase the limit, but to slow the fuck down. Either that or remove half the BN.
But thats what i said
its too late to go back now lol. also that would be retarded


also this

neonat wrote:

People now have to wait for the limit reset each day, this is going to lead to a snowball effect and the amount of maps waiting for qualification is just going to keep increasing. This imo isn't going to healthy.
Bara-
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Joined April 2013
Bara-
/off-topic
I have the feeling all stars here are from BN, right?
I'm on phone, so I can't tell
/me runs
xxdeathx
2,661 posts
Joined July 2013
xxdeathx

Starry- wrote:

I lol'd
Eni
1,437 posts
Joined May 2013
Eni
How about this: Limit the amount of Nominations an individual BN can use per week/month.


This will make the Nominations worth more and prevent spamming ranks due to punishment if disqualified.
Shiranai
2,186 posts
Joined August 2012
Shiranai
Just quoting this,


Yes, I support the idea!
Idk will be raise up to 10 or 15 slots, but in my opinion 8 slots in a day is kinda too small due too many of BNs now
- Marco -
7,043 posts
Joined December 2011
- Marco -

Project Railgun wrote:

How about this: Limit the amount of Nominations an individual BN can use per week/month.


This will make the Nominations worth more and prevent spamming ranks due to punishment if disqualified.
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,528 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat

Project Railgun wrote:

How about this: Limit the amount of Nominations an individual BN can use per week/month.


This will make the Nominations worth more and prevent spamming ranks due to punishment if disqualified.
This limits the BN once again, which shouldn't be the case in the future. If he feels 6 maps deserves nomination and he has a limit of 5, why prevent him, it's his decision. That is akin to limiting the amount of mods a person does.
xxdeathx
2,661 posts
Joined July 2013
xxdeathx

Project Railgun wrote:

How about this: Limit the amount of Nominations an individual BN can use per week/month.


This will make the Nominations worth more and prevent spamming ranks due to punishment if disqualified.
What's wrong with someone like Sonnyc? He's contributed incredibly to the amount of ranked maps.
Starry-
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2012
Starry-
A limitation like that would just make the BNG Point System redundant, and such a limitation is definitely not the way to go about things anyways.
I'm still keeping to what I said in my previous post, though. p/3842369 Perhaps the new system being 3 nominations for qualify might actually be good, I'm not sure how it will turn out in regard to the situation we have right now.
Lanturn
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2012
Lanturn
Apparently as I've been told, the new ModdingV2 will require 3 nominations, why not start now?

If we're trying to imitate this new system, we should already be trying to do 3 nominations for a rank, or at least with this current system, 2 bubbles 1 heart. I don't see the harm in it and it Will help prevent DQs. The only question remains is if the BNs can keep up with the influx of maps we get daily to mod/nominate, but with the new application system coming in march and 100+ BNs already, I don't see this as being a problem.

I'm all for raising the requirements for nomination (2->3 / 3->4/5 (for approval) before raising the max amount of qualified maps. Either or does work for me, but I think the former is the better approach at this stage, considerring what we have in store for us in the future.

we could also apply both even if wanted.


tl;dr I basically just agreed and repeated with what Lust was saying. lol
Lally
3,177 posts
Joined December 2011
Lally

baraatje123 wrote:

/off-topic
I have the feeling all stars here are from BN, right?
I'm on phone, so I can't tell
/me runs

not really,fully supporting Starrys idea aswell

if in the case would be 3 you'll go like :

1 BN
2 BN
3 BN

wich would be really nice,but more BNs are needed since the mapper community is huge and trying to do tripple job is hard imo too,but if you see in multiple mapsets you already need more BNs so is already started a little bit the modding v2

ewww
peppy
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peppy
What the FUCK is a BN?

The 8 map limit is not changing anytime soon. If individuals are spamming ranks then I will limit it to one-per-user-per-day.
Cerulean Veyron
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Joined August 2012
Cerulean Veyron
Good idea, ppy! One-per-user-per-day sounds best.
Yangu
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Joined July 2014
Yangu

peppy wrote:

What the FUCK is a BN?
Beatmap Nominator (New BAT) :P
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Lach
1,118 posts
Joined November 2012
Lach

peppy wrote:

What the FUCK is a BN?

The 8 map limit is not changing anytime soon. If individuals are spamming ranks then I will limit it to one-per-user-per-day.
The fact that you don't know what the BAT has become is cause for concern.
Lally
3,177 posts
Joined December 2011
Lally

Lach wrote:

peppy wrote:

What the FUCK is a BN?

The 8 map limit is not changing anytime soon. If individuals are spamming ranks then I will limit it to one-per-user-per-day.
The fact that you don't know what the BAT has become is cause for concern.
ai...ai...ai.... *sigh*
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2013
Kibbleru

Lach wrote:

peppy wrote:

What the FUCK is a BN?

The 8 map limit is not changing anytime soon. If individuals are spamming ranks then I will limit it to one-per-user-per-day.
The fact that you don't know what the BAT has become is cause for concern.
lol

well see how this goes for now.
yes i think the best option for now untill we increase the max is make it 3 BN's per ranked map.
other wise stop adding BNs. because the # of ranked maps will just snowball
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captin1
osu! Alumni
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captin1
no, it's not one person spamming ranks, it's the fact that the team has expanded massively.
peppy
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peppy
I can see that.

The limit is still not changing. This limit is one placed and managed by me and is on a separate level of logic to the approval process. Figure out how you will deal with this, but it is not changing for the forseeable future.
Lust
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Lust
Guess we better start brainstorming how to deal with this, then.
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