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BRADIO - Flyers

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Akareh
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Joined February 2010
Akareh

baraatje123 wrote:

As requested in-game
[General]
I think it's better to have the first timing at a 7/4 timing (mostly because there is no notable sound at 00:01:852) changed this on my diff, fix it for me if you don't change that in the end, luxo
The 2nd one should be 4/4 (as it currently is)
The audio file ends abrubtly, is that intended or not? It feels weird cause the trumpet is lowering volume, and while lowering it just randomly stops

[Akareh's Insane]
  1. 00:05:521 (4,5,8,9,10) - Is this misstack intended? Please stack correctly fixed ~
  2. 00:10:054 (1) - I'm personally no fan of this slider, it looks very cluttered and feels weird, as the other ones are all simple sliders with just 1 curve or nothing fixed?
  3. 01:17:176 (1) - Please make this slider a bit more special, it feels a little bland Made some little wobble there, at least now it's not a simple curve?
Here you go~
SPOILER
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Radio-Death_Parade_OP_Opening__[HD_720P].mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 41133
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Flyers
TitleUnicode:Flyers
Artist:BRADIO
ArtistUnicode:BRADIO
Creator:luxoDeh
Version:Akareh's Insane
Source:Death parade
Tags:opening デス・パレード billards Takaaki Shingyoji Soichi Ohyama Ryosuke Sakai Yuki Tanabe madhouse Akareh ryuu
BeatmapID:646310
BeatmapSetID:265617

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:8
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8.5
SliderMultiplier:2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
Video,0,"Death+Parade+OP.avi"
0,0,"background.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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I have to go until 9-10 GMT+1, so feel free to fix any errors/changes needed on my end if you don't want to wait for me :)
pretty please baraatje check also https://osu.ppy.sh/s/301883 I've been searching for a BN for months ;_____________;
luxoDeh
1,497 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
luxoDeh

baraatje123 wrote:

As requested in-game
[General]
I think it's better to have the first timing at a 7/4 timing (mostly because there is no notable sound at 00:01:852)
The 2nd one should be 4/4 (as it currently is) ok, I don't know if I really understood why, but ok../color]
The audio file ends abrubtly, is that intended or not? It feels weird cause the trumpet is lowering volume, and while lowering it just randomly stops

[Easy]
  1. 00:04:658 (2) - Please curve this a little, it seems to flow better ok
  2. 00:46:313 (3) - <3 Love this slider (with the curve to emphasize the claps) :3
[Hard]
  1. 00:27:320 (1,2,3) - Give the End a soft-sampleset. This way they don't need to be silenced, but they'll feel better fixed
  2. 00:34:226 (1,2,3) - ^^ ^
  3. 00:40:269 (1,2) - All drum clap? Fits the drumroll more (Normal hitclap also work fine, but might be too strong) did something a bit different, but I think it sounds better imo
  4. 00:54:082 (1,2) - ^^ ^
  5. 01:07:895 (1,2) - ^^ ^
[Dance]
All those sliders in the begin are so lovely <3 ^.^
  1. 00:27:320 (1,2,3) - Give the End a soft-sampleset. This way they don't need to be silenced, but they'll feel better changed the same as hard diff
  2. 00:34:226 (1,2,3) - ^^
  3. 00:40:269 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - All drum clap? Fits the drumroll more (Normal hitclap also work fine, but might be too strong)
  4. 00:54:082 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^^
  5. 01:08:003 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - ^^
Okay, this mapset is pretty awesome
Call me back and I'll qualifiy it (if cap allows it ;w;)

ok, Thank you for checking ^.^ I think it updated right, done also for Akareh's diff.. just I don't understand if the video uploaded as well :/
need to wait for ryuu's replay :3
Bara-
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Joined April 2013
Bara-
The 7/4 is good, dw
Also, you know you could also click on the slider, select the end, then set the Sampleset (top left) to soft
Then you don't need to add multiple points :P
ryuu
802 posts
Joined February 2011
ryuu

baraatje123 wrote:

[ryuu's Normal]
  1. It might be me, but I'm not really a fan of the fact that all 1/2 really slightly overlap eachother. Please increase DS to something like 1.05 as they then no longer touch i like how it looks
  2. 00:43:075 (1) - Shorten by 1/4 (so it's a 3/4 slider) fixed in another way
  3. 00:56:888 (1) - ^^
  4. 00:58:614 (1) - ^^ There are others, but those are fine, as they are at the white ticks, not the red ones not fixed because i don't like new rhythm
thank u

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 41133
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
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Title:Flyers
TitleUnicode:Flyers
Artist:BRADIO
ArtistUnicode:BRADIO
Creator:luxoDeh
Version:ryuu's Normal
Source:Death parade
Tags:opening デス・パレード billards Takaaki Shingyoji Soichi Ohyama Ryosuke Sakai Yuki Tanabe madhouse Akareh ryuu
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Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Oh, when you are able to update, just Poke me (Forum PM is preferred) and I can qualify (if cap allows it)
hehe
1,959 posts
Joined November 2012
hehe

Ranking Criteria wrote:

A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set. The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to a username. Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player. Marathon maps with a single difficulty may use free naming.
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Kinda
However, you shouldn't judge maps based on star rating, but on actual difficulty, and IMO Dance is harder then Agareh's diff
hehe
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Joined November 2012
hehe
source is デス・パレード
'billards' is not spelt right in tags, should be 'billiards', consider adding' tv size version'.
why not end the last spinner on 01:16:959 - this white tick? either way
ryuu's normal has that spinner ending on 1/8, inconsistent.
00:48:254 (2,3) - 3/4 spacing is unacceptable in a normal


baraatje123 wrote:

Kinda
However, you shouldn't judge maps based on star rating, but on actual difficulty, and IMO Dance is harder then Agareh's diff

baaratje321 wrote:

IMO
toybot
1,050 posts
Joined June 2013
toybot
does anyone know what objectivity is???????? i'm kinda lost xdd
luxoDeh
1,497 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
luxoDeh

handsome wrote:

source is デス・パレード
'billards' is not spelt right in tags, should be 'billiards', consider adding' tv size version'.
why not end the last spinner on 01:16:959 - this white tick? either way
ryuu's normal has that spinner ending on 1/8, inconsistent.
00:48:254 (2,3) - 3/4 spacing is unacceptable in a normal


baraatje123 wrote:

Kinda
However, you shouldn't judge maps based on star rating, but on actual difficulty, and IMO Dance is harder then Agareh's diff

baaratje321 wrote:

IMO
for the source: there's no need to change because I saw in the official opening and in the official site of the anime it is also written like "Death parade" so I think I can keep it. Here some screens too. (first one from the opening, second one from the official site)
SPOILER

then I changed "billiards" and added "tv size version" in tags.

the spinner now is consistent. now in all diffs it end at the same time.

for the diffs name, I changed the cs a bit and now the Dance diff is higher than Akareh's one.

thank you :)


Then, looks like I can only update the map without video. so I need to change that one first before moving forward. >.<
Bara-
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Bara-
Try asking Andrea
I believe he is good with videos
Or was it only with audio?
hehe
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Joined November 2012
hehe
the screenshot clearly shows the japanese characters above it, so i believe it can be used as well. in any case, if you;re using the english version 'Death Parade' with a capital P should be correct.
luxoDeh
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Topic Starter
luxoDeh

handsome wrote:

the screenshot clearly shows the japanese characters above it, so i believe it can be used as well. in any case, if you;re using the english version 'Death Parade' with a capital P should be correct.
If possible I prefere using a source that everyone can read, that's why I'll keep the english one (with the capital P correct ofc)
I just need to be able to upload the video .. :/
ryuu
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ryuu

handsome wrote:

why not end the last spinner on 01:16:959 - this white tick? either way
ryuu's normal has that spinner ending on 1/8, inconsistent.
00:48:254 (2,3) - 3/4 spacing is unacceptable in a normal k. changed.
but in my diff i will end spinner when i want
SPOILER
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 41132
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Flyers
TitleUnicode:Flyers
Artist:BRADIO
ArtistUnicode:BRADIO
Creator:luxoDeh
Version:ryuu's Normal
Source:Death Parade
Tags:opening tv size version デス・パレード billiards Takaaki Shingyoji Soichi Ohyama Ryosuke Sakai Yuki Tanabe madhouse Akareh ryuu
BeatmapID:648038
BeatmapSetID:265617

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CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"background.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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luxoDeh
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updated.. but wasn't the spinner better with 1/8? it sounded better to be because the sound was actually there.. I thought that because it was at the end of the diff it wasn't a big deal, it would have been unacceptable if it was in the middle of the diff maybe..
Bara-
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Bara-
The spinner should be indeed at 5/8 (as told you in-game)
Good to see it's updated
I'll recheck tomorrow and most likely qualify it :)
luxoDeh
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baraatje123 wrote:

The spinner should be indeed at 5/8 (as told you in-game)
Good to see it's updated
I'll recheck tomorrow and most likely qualify it :)
no, wait, still the video is missing.. >.<

edit: video is fixed
Bara-
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If only caps allows it
Everything seems fine so
Preliminary Qualified I guess :P
Bara-
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Wow
Gg cap

QUALIFIED!!

luxoDeh
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Baraatje123 wrote:

Wow
Gg cap

QUALIFIED!!

Thank you!!! ^.^
Akareh
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ~ :) :)
meii18
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Finally congratulations :3
Emdyion
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Emdyion
Why does it feel like there's a beat missing from the beginning of the song?

Compared to this, at least: http://www.tusfiles.net/8hg6kfxjj31n

Or am I the only one that heard it ._.
luxoDeh
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Emdyion wrote:

Why does it feel like there's a beat missing from the beginning of the song?

Compared to this, at least: http://www.tusfiles.net/8hg6kfxjj31n

Or am I the only one that heard it ._.
no, the beat is there, and it's hitable. I think with the actual file is still ok.
Bearizm
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00:05:090 (2,3) -

00:11:996 (2,3) -

these are by far the hardest parts in the map in the difficulty "dance". Can you explain the emphasis behind this? I didn't even know these are 1/4 spaced until I saw the editor. Pretty hard to read.

and in normal, idk if this is going to be a problem but in normal; 00:59:693 (3) - the stack might be confused as 1/2 since the other objects that are stacked are 1/1

btw, because of this map I checked out Death Parade and finished it in 1 go, it was amazing! <3
luxoDeh
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Bearizm wrote:

00:05:090 (2,3) -

00:11:996 (2,3) -

these are by far the hardest parts in the map in the difficulty "dance". Can you explain the emphasis behind this? I didn't even know these are 1/4 spaced until I saw the editor. Pretty hard to read. these have already been discussed during the modding process of the map. I think they're readable, and watching some replays I can see these parts are actually playable. Also this is the hardest diff, so I think there might be something a bit more crazy than usual.

and in normal, idk if this is going to be a problem but in normal; 00:59:693 (3) - the stack might be confused as 1/2 since the other objects that are stacked are 1/1 hm.. I don't really see a problem in this.

btw, because of this map I checked out Death Parade and finished it in 1 go, it was amazing! <3 great! I'm happy you liked it! the anime is really a pearl! ^.^
Thanks for feedback.. anyway I think that we should just let QATs judge if there are actually any issues in the map at this point.
OtakuWonda
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Thanks !!!!
Emdyion
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Emdyion

luxoDeh wrote:

Emdyion wrote:

Why does it feel like there's a beat missing from the beginning of the song?

Compared to this, at least: http://www.tusfiles.net/8hg6kfxjj31n

Or am I the only one that heard it ._.
no, the beat is there, and it's hitable. I think with the actual file is still ok.
I highly doubt it.

Using my mp3 from DL link, and setting offset timing points to (roughly) 718 and 3,740 respectively using "scale objects to new timing", it is evident that there is one beat missing from your mp3. The first note of your mp3 hits the second beat on my mp3 (where the snare hits in the song).

Here's the .osu [Dance] with my mp3:
SPOILER
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Radio-Death_Parade_OP_Opening__[HD_720P].mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 41724
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Flyers
TitleUnicode:Flyers
Artist:BRADIO
ArtistUnicode:BRADIO
Creator:luxoDeh
Version:Dance
Source:Death Parade
Tags:opening tv size version デス・パレード billiards Takaaki Shingyoji Soichi Ohyama Ryosuke Sakai Yuki Tanabe madhouse Akareh ryuu
BeatmapID:628139
BeatmapSetID:265617

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CircleSize:4.3
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2
SliderTickRate:1

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Video,0,"Death+Parade+OP.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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214,262,68595,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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367,80,71509,1,8,0:0:0:0:
480,247,71725,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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314,365,72264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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187,199,72588,2,0,L|217:269,1,59.9999981689454
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400,162,73451,1,0,0:0:0:0:
435,158,73559,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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388,263,74099,5,8,0:0:0:0:
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276,372,77120,1,0,0:0:0:0:
201,190,77336,1,0,0:0:0:0:
74,344,77552,6,0,L|47:277,1,59.9999981689454,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Also the fact that your meter for the first section is 7/4 is kinda weird.

I'm pretty sure there's a beat missing from your mp3 o-o
luxoDeh
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luxoDeh
Sorry, I'm still not convinced.
I'm pretty sure the beat is the same. maybe in yours we can hear better the trumpet starting to play, but to me the actual beat is hearable also in mine.
idk.. maybe QAT should decide if I can just keep my mp3 or not.
machomuu
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Joined March 2010
machomuu

luxoDeh wrote:

Sorry, I'm still not convinced.
I'm pretty sure the beat is the same. maybe in yours we can hear better the trumpet starting to play, but to me the actual beat is hearable also in mine.
idk.. maybe QAT should decide if I can just keep my mp3 or not.
I actually wasn't sure if I should speak on this myself, but there is a beat missing from the mp3.

I mean, as far as ranking's concerned I doubt it'd be a problem since it doesn't affect the beatmap and its playability, it's solely a difference between the original audio and this, as if the beginning lagged or is stunted. But since the mapping's based around it, it doesn't really make the map any less playable.

Made a comparison video of sorts, though it isn't exactly side by side: https://youtu.be/G2GZrDT53sI
Bara-
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Bara-
The .mp3 used here seems quite normal to me
And. Multiple songs have weird x/4 setups
I once mapped a 13/4 with 11/4
It was vocaloid
A 7/4 for once isn't that weird imo
Emdyion
292 posts
Joined October 2009
Emdyion

Baraatje123 wrote:

The .mp3 used here seems quite normal to me
And. Multiple songs have weird x/4 setups
I once mapped a 13/4 with 11/4
It was vocaloid
A 7/4 for once isn't that weird imo
It's not that 7/4 is weird, it's just that in this case, there is no instance where the song goes into 3/4 or 7/4.
The song is 4/4 all the time. You can use BRADIO's official OP as proof.

Perhaps you got your mp3 from here, where the beat is cut off from the beginning.

I do want this beatmap to be ranked and stuff, but the missing beat at the beginning is probably unexpected for those who expect 4/4 timing.
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi
So since it was really disturbing, I decided to take a look into this mp3.
The start is clearly truncated, the song start after the attack of first instrument. But in the case you don't belive me, I compared the mp3 from the map and the one from full version, who have the same start.

audacity proof
mp3 from map is on the top, and full version just under. I sync them ofc, you can confirm with waveform.
So, if the mp3 from the map was good, it should start from the same place than fuu ver., or...that's not the case AT ALL.

DQ this map, this is clearly stupid to make it pass.
Bara-
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Bara-
How is this seriously a DQ'able issue
If I use a different .mp3 then an official source which misses a part, it's suddenly also DQ'able
Wtf

Edit: Let's just wait on clarification from the QAT
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

Baraatje123 wrote:

How is this seriously a DQ'able issue
Because...it start from the middle of a note and kinda unsnaped ? Ohwell...like you want but don't be surprised if something happend.
luxoDeh
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luxoDeh
so, if I remember well, when I first mapped this one I took the mp3 from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjjTMNDZi-A or somewhere else, but I clarely remember that at the time there wasn't a better mp3 to find anywhere. since the actual beat to be hitten is still there in my mp3 I always thought it was not a problem, and no one (not eaven BNs) complained about it.
Probably with the release of full version or official version the mp3 quality improved..
Anyway, for me tha map is fine.. but I would like to see a QAT's opinion, instead of discussing randomly at this point.
Emdyion
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Joined October 2009
Emdyion

luxoDeh wrote:

so, if I remember well, when I first mapped this one I took the mp3 from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjjTMNDZi-A or somewhere else, but I clarely remember that at the time there wasn't a better mp3 to find anywhere. since the actual beat to be hitten is still there in my mp3 I always thought it was not a problem, and no one (not eaven BNs) complained about it.
Probably with the release of full version or official version the mp3 quality improved..
Anyway, for me tha map is fine.. but I would like to see a QAT's opinion, instead of discussing randomly at this point.
I don't think mp3 quality is the reason. It's about the mp3 being clipped so that the first beat is missing.

I believe your YouTube link is also what I linked before:

Emdyion wrote:

Perhaps you got your mp3 from here, where the beat is cut off from the beginning.
Anyways, I'd like to hear QAT's opinion on this to see if that matters.
shARPII
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shARPII

Baraatje123 wrote:

How is this seriously a DQ'able issue
If I use a different .mp3 then an official source which misses a part, it's suddenly also DQ'able
Wtf
I'm wondering what you're doing in BNG with this kind of reaction/argument to be honest...



I'm not at home, but to avoid more 'angry discussions' at this point, I can provide you a part of the answer (I'm not a QAT but as a staff member, I can help and try to give a reliable opinion)

Your timing isn't really "bad" because you're still using 4 beats per mesure so it's on beat but 7/4 just mean you remove one mesure (which is the cut some people were pointing out). To be more precise, it means you're not on the right big white tick we should have (because it's not in this mp3) and you're just moving the next big white tick 7 mesures later (instead of 8) to come back on the 4/4 mesure the song is using.

We can just call this a "glitch" or a "trick" which isn't acceptable for a ranked map. You can solve the problem by updating the mp3 file with a better version and you'll have something a lot better in term of quality. (btw I found a weird bug, when you reach the first green point, ticks are changing to 4/4 in the timeline without any red point... I can't replicate it tho... edit : apparently, a visual bug already reported by Shiro)

I'm not talking about the general aspect of the map, it's certainly well mapped (I haven't checked it so I can't tell you but the rating seems ok). It's obviously not affecting the whole playability because it's just one note at the beginning of the map but let's be honest, it sounds terrible ^^' It's not making sense with the next mesure using the same 'pattern' but timed differently.

Hope I answered some questions and that it'll be possible to see this fixed!
If you have any problem, feel free to pm me instead of flooding this thread.

Thank you!
Bara-
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Bara-
Sharpii, what you said indeed makes sense
But I personally don't see why it should be DQ'd just because it uses a 'different' .mp3
You did clarify it more to me, but I see no need to DQ it because Luxo took a .mp3 which misses a part
Also, I don't know the 'long' version, but the current one seems to go rather nicely, with the string sounds starting at the offset at a 7/4
This is just my opinion on it, let's just wait on what the QAT have to say about this

Edit: Sorry for all the troubles
I had a talk with shARPII, and he explained what the problems was
Yeah, I can understand it now, as it's not the official .mp3
Of the official .mp3, in the first 2 beats, a chunk is taken out, as the trumpet used to be longer (unless I misundertood again)
However, I still don't find it a DQáble something
Okay, if it gets DQ'd for mapping quality or something like that, then it should be changed,btu I personally don't think it needs to be DQ'd just because of this
luxoDeh
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luxoDeh
ok, I understand the problem.
Anyway I want to see a QAT here. cause none of us have the power to disqualify this or decide to let it be ranked.
We can discuss this forever but they have to decide.
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