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oesterreich - Munou (TV edit)

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Citrus
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年6月6日 at 17:42:48

Artist: oesterreich
Title: Munou (TV edit)
Source: 東京喰種トーキョーグール√A
Tags: Tokyo Ghoul root 鎌野愛
BPM: 168
Filesize: 3380kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2.78 stars, 172 notes)
  2. Insane (4 stars, 250 notes)
  3. Normal (1.67 stars, 92 notes)
Download: oesterreich - Munou (TV edit)
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pkk
General
  1. Add 'root' to tags since it's an alternate name (Tokyo Ghoul Root A)
  2. BPM should be 168 if you listen to the drums
  3. 00:08:429 - , 00:08:697 - whistle hitsound fits nicely over here because of the sound in the music

Normal
  1. 00:52:000 (2) - might look better if you delete the middle point and make it straight, this way 00:52:000 (2,3) - will be different shapes

Hard
  1. 01:02:357 (5) - , 01:07:357 (5) - NC here to break up the long combo

Insane
  1. 00:17:625 (3) - even with increased spacing this rhythm might be confusing. NC might make it easier to read
  2. 01:14:143 (9) - maybe extend it to 01:14:500 - so you can map the vocal, I think it sounds better

Good mapset, nothing much to point out. Have fun mapping!
Topic Starter
Citrus

pkk wrote:

General
  1. Add 'root' to tags since it's an alternate name (Tokyo Ghoul Root A) OK
  2. BPM should be 168 if you listen to the drums :(
  3. 00:08:429 - , 00:08:697 - whistle hitsound fits nicely over here because of the sound in the music Added whistle at 00:08:697 -

Normal
  1. 00:52:000 (2) - might look better if you delete the middle point and make it straight, this way 00:52:000 (2,3) - will be different shapes No change,I like this shape :(

Hard
  1. 01:02:357 (5) - , 01:07:357 (5) - NC here to break up the long combo Fixed

Insane
  1. 00:17:625 (3) - even with increased spacing this rhythm might be confusing. NC might make it easier to read No need to NC
  2. 01:14:143 (9) - maybe extend it to 01:14:500 - so you can map the vocal, I think it sounds better I prefer to follow the drum

Good mapset, nothing much to point out. Have fun mapping!
Thank you very much~
BluOxy
hi, NM here.


Normal
  1. 00:38:429 sorry I don't know the rules about lowest diffculty but this overlap should fix I guess.
  2. 00:47:357(3,4,5) this slider should be like this
  3. 01:20:214(1) this slider is overlap with before one, I guess it should fix.

Hard
  1. 00:12:893 (1,2,4) these spacing are too far. adjust the spacing 2's sliderend and 3's sliderend. So i think 1,2 should move to x:400 y:194 , 4 should move to x:435 y:216

    other part is fine! :)

Insane
  1. 00:06:107(4,5,6) these circles puts so far. move to x:315 y:23. these makes equilateral triangle by 2's sliderend and 3 and 6's sliderend.
  2. 00:19:856(1,2,3,4) after overlaps,these jump will make us confused. my opinion 3,4 circles should move like this
  3. 00:21:999(2,3,4,5) ^
  4. 00:30:572(4) make circle and put slider on 00:30:929 until red line I want to get this sound.
  5. 00:32:000 also,I want to get this sound. how do you think.
  6. 00:33:072(2) this slider should be two circles because these is snare sound on the sliderend. how do you think this?
  7. 00:34:500(1) this slider end should move a bit, it's to x:212 y:218. flow will be better.
  8. 00:35:214(2) don't reverse this slider and add circle 00:35:929.
  9. 00:36:107 move this slider to under left a bit. like this
  10. 00:43:072(1,2,3,4,5) these jumps are too far compared other part. how do you think like this
  11. 00:45:929 if you changed 00:43:072 this slider should move to x:183 y:316 , also 00:47:357, 00:50:214, 00:51:707.
  12. 01:05:572(7,1) these jump are also too far so 7 slider should move to x:333 y:311,1 slider shoud move to x:439 y:191
  13. 01:10:036(1,2,3) this flow should point like this
  14. 01:14:679(10) this slider should circle and add 1/8 reverse slider on 01:14:857. like..
  15. 01:19:679(2) move to right a bit. x:472 y:101
  16. 01:23:518 I can hear drum in here. I think you should put circle.
  17. 01:25:393 there is whistle sound, I want this part to be circle or slider.
I like these mapping style and Tokyo ghoul. Good luck X)
Topic Starter
Citrus

BluOxy wrote:

hi, NM here.


Normal
  1. 00:38:429 sorry I don't know the rules about lowest diffculty but this overlap should fix I guess. No change,not difficult for Normal players
  2. 00:47:357(3,4,5) this slider should be like this Fixed
  3. 01:20:214(1) this slider is overlap with before one, I guess it should fix. No need to change here

Hard
  1. 00:12:893 (1,2,4) these spacing are too far. adjust the spacing 2's sliderend and 3's sliderend. So i think 1,2 should move to x:400 y:194 , 4 should move to x:435 y:216 Fixed

    other part is fine! :)

Insane
  1. 00:06:107(4,5,6) these circles puts so far. move to x:315 y:23. these makes equilateral triangle by 2's sliderend and 3 and 6's sliderend. No change
  2. 00:19:856(1,2,3,4) after overlaps,these jump will make us confused. my opinion 3,4 circles should move like this I will change them if other modders point out
  3. 00:21:999(2,3,4,5) ^ ^
  4. 00:30:572(4) make circle and put slider on 00:30:929 until red line I want to get this sound. No change
  5. 00:32:000 also,I want to get this sound. how do you think. Fixed
  6. 00:33:072(2) this slider should be two circles because these is snare sound on the sliderend. how do you think this? I want to keep this
  7. 00:34:500(1) this slider end should move a bit, it's to x:212 y:218. flow will be better. Moved it to (212,237)
  8. 00:35:214(2) don't reverse this slider and add circle 00:35:929. I want to keep this :(
  9. 00:36:107 move this slider to under left a bit. like this I want to keep central symmetry with 00:35:214 (2) -
  10. 00:43:072(1,2,3,4,5) these jumps are too far compared other part. how do you think like this? This is an Insane diff,I think they will be easily accepted by players
  11. 00:45:929 if you changed 00:43:072 this slider should move to x:183 y:316 , also 00:47:357, 00:50:214, 00:51:707.
  12. 01:05:572(7,1) these jump are also too far so 7 slider should move to x:333 y:311,1 slider shoud move to x:439 y:191 Same as above
  13. 01:10:036(1,2,3) this flow should point like this Fixed
  14. 01:14:679(10) this slider should circle and add 1/8 reverse slider on 01:14:857. like. No change
  15. 01:19:679(2) move to right a bit. x:472 y:101 I prefer to use curve
  16. 01:23:518 I can hear drum in here. I think you should put circle. I want to keep this
  17. 01:25:393 there is whistle sound, I want this part to be circle or slider. ^
I like these mapping style and Tokyo ghoul. Good luck X)
Thank you very much~
Ranger
yup o/

[Normal]

00:32:179 (5) - how about remove this?
00:37:714 (2,3,4) - um...make spacing like this?
00:44:500 (1) - add clap at reserve.
01:12:714 (4) - spacing error a little.
01:14:143 (5) - how about just make rounded?
01:21:464 (3) - change clap to clap. cause hearing finish sound in music.

[Hard]

00:05:036 (2,3) - i think it`s too high spacing. recommend reduce distance.
00:22:357 (4,5) - ^ too hard for me :(
00:36:286 - add circle here?
00:56:822 (1) - how about make pattern like this?


[Insane]

00:10:214 - add circle here.
00:50:572 (1,2) - how about make pattern like this?
01:12:357 - add circle here?

lol i like this song...
good luck for a rank~ :)
Topic Starter
Citrus

Ranger wrote:

yup o/

[Normal]

00:32:179 (5) - how about remove this? No need to remove this,not very hard
00:37:714 (2,3,4) - um...make spacing like this? good idea
00:44:500 (1) - add clap at reserve. Clap is not appropriate
01:12:714 (4) - spacing error a little. No effect on playing
01:14:143 (5) - how about just make rounded? No change
01:21:464 (3) - change clap to clap. cause hearing finish sound in music. Fixed

[Hard]

00:05:036 (2,3) - i think it`s too high spacing. recommend reduce distance. not very hard,no need to change
00:22:357 (4,5) - ^ too hard for me :( ^
00:36:286 - add circle here? No change
00:56:822 (1) - how about make pattern like this? this rhythm is not appropriate


[Insane]

00:10:214 - add circle here. No change
00:50:572 (1,2) - how about make pattern like this? I don't like this rhythm :(
01:12:357 - add circle here? No change

lol i like this song...
good luck for a rank~ :)
Thank you very much~
Jemmmmy
[insane]
why AR9? it's not hard enough to use high ar
00:10:036 - add circle
00:16:464 (2,3,4) - 1/6 here
01:23:250 - wrong rhythm

don't know which track you are following. Seems you keep alter between piano and drum and lots of weird blank break the continuity of the map.
good placement though
Topic Starter
Citrus

Jemmmmy wrote:

[insane]
why AR9? it's not hard enough to use high ar Change to AR8
00:10:036 - add circle No change
00:16:464 (2,3,4) - 1/6 here Fixed
01:23:250 - wrong rhythm Fixed

don't know which track you are following. Seems you keep alter between piano and drum and lots of weird blank break the continuity of the map.
good placement though
Thank you very much~
bigfrog
hi, from queue
這部動畫最近好像很紅=.=

Normal
00:32:179 (5) - 建議刪掉,因為這裡的音效幾乎聽不見...

Hard
AR7就好?
00:32:357 (3) - 向上彎曲?這樣打起來感覺比較順,但都可
00:45:929 - KIAI time的clap音效可以更大聲,因為聽起來好像有點被音樂蓋過,
然後我覺得CV可以增加...變成1.5倍之類的,明明聽起來很快滑條速度卻很慢,有些譜也是這樣但卻以拉大距離代替
我只是建議...主要還是看你怎麼想 :?

Insane
00:32:357 (1,2,3) - 這個會不會太坑??而且不知道會不會過...還是問問多點人的意見吧
01:01:286 (7) - 覺得再稍微調一下會更好看 :

然後KIAI的部分同Hard,而且更強烈建議 :<

唔大概就這些,也沒什麼好講的ww
整體看起來作的很好,GL~~
Topic Starter
Citrus

bigfrog wrote:

hi, from queue
這部動畫最近好像很紅=.=

Normal
00:32:179 (5) - 建議刪掉,因為這裡的音效幾乎聽不見...

Hard
AR7就好? 好,并且把OD-1了
00:32:357 (3) - 向上彎曲?這樣打起來感覺比較順,但都可 00:32:357 (3,4) - 和00:33:786 (5) - 的开头是一条弧线,暂时不打算改成别的
00:45:929 - KIAI time的clap音效可以更大聲,因為聽起來好像有點被音樂蓋過,
然後我覺得CV可以增加...變成1.5倍之類的,明明聽起來很快滑條速度卻很慢,有些譜也是這樣但卻以拉大距離代替
我只是建議...主要還是看你怎麼想 :? kiai段声音变大了,所以我把kiai段的音效音量加大了;至于slider的速度暂时不打算改 :(

Insane
00:32:357 (1,2,3) - 這個會不會太坑??而且不知道會不會過...還是問問多點人的意見吧 感觉还好吧,速度也不快
01:01:286 (7) - 覺得再稍微調一下會更好看 :
改成垂直的了

然後KIAI的部分同Hard,而且更強烈建議 :< 这里和Hard一样

唔大概就這些,也沒什麼好講的ww
整體看起來作的很好,GL~~
非常感谢~
Factorial
From NLOMQ, as you requested:
[Insane]
  1. 00:40:929 (1) - Ctrl+G. End of slider ends up away from the next object.
  2. 00:34:500 (1) - ^
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:357 - Add note here.
Topic Starter
Citrus

Neil Leo wrote:

From NLOMQ, as you requested:
[Insane]
  1. 00:40:929 (1) - Ctrl+G. End of slider ends up away from the next object. No change.It should be OK
  2. 00:34:500 (1) - ^ ^
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:357 - Add note here. Fixed
Thank you very much~
Hitorikko
yo~ from my Queue
your an experienced mapper owo :o

Normal
00:07:357 (4,1) - IMO removing the red node and making it a normal curve slider will be better.
00:10:393 (2) - i think this slider should start here 00:10:214 - and ends here 00:11:286 - . it sounds better
00:15:214 (4) - move to x:192 y:100 for better flow ?
00:49:322 (6) - make the curve going up and make a blanket with 00:48:429 (5) - looks better
01:12:714 (4) - make it points toward directly to 01:14:143 (5) -
01:18:250 (1,2,1) - this overlaps is kinda bad IMO

Hard
00:12:893 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this jump is too hard for this kind of diff. maybe decrease the spacing
00:15:572 (4) - make it adjacent with 00:15:214 (3) -
00:21:822 (3) - u made a perfect blanket with 00:20:572 (1) - but that makes the position of the note a little awkward with the next slider. maybe try to make it look like this (it's not perfect but I now you can make it). you can still make a blanket.
00:29:500 (3,4) - I don't think this sliders needs to be stacked
00:54:679 (5) - kinda feels wrong, but I dunno how to deal with it.
01:05:214 (5,1) - this part here is kinda bad. maybe make 01:05:214 (5) - adjacent to 01:04:857 (4) - and move 01:05:572 (1) - up and make 01:05:214 (5) pointing directly towards 01:05:572 (1) -
01:08:429 (4) - ctrl+G maybe ?
01:17:357 (6) - stacking it with 01:17:536 (7) - looks better IMO
01:24:322 (1,2,3,1,2) - again with this jumps.

Insane
00:07:357 (1) - this slider is kinda awkward being placed near after that jump, maybe move it a little farther.
00:08:429 (1,2,3) - increase spacing maybe ?
00:19:143 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - for a 3.99 star diff insane, this jumps is overkill.
00:22:000 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ^
00:30:572 (4,5) - doesn't need to be stacked IMO
00:32:357 (1,2,3) - not good
00:52:357 (1,2,3) - increase spacing ?
00:55:214 (1,2,3) - for this part maybe put 00:55:214 (1) - in 00:55:393 (2) - position and stack 00:55:393 (2) - in 00:55:572 (3) - .
00:56:464 (4,1) - looks bad

Nice map. You did a great job mapping it in 1/8 BSD. Good luck ~
Topic Starter
Citrus

Hitorikko wrote:

yo~ from my Queue
your an experienced mapper owo :o

Normal
00:07:357 (4,1) - IMO removing the red node and making it a normal curve slider will be better. :?
00:10:393 (2) - i think this slider should start here 00:10:214 - and ends here 00:11:286 - . it sounds better I think follow the rhythm will be better
00:15:214 (4) - move to x:192 y:100 for better flow ? I want to keep this,because the end of 00:13:786 (2) - and the head of 00:15:214 (4) - are symmetrical
00:49:322 (6) - make the curve going up and make a blanket with 00:48:429 (5) - looks better ^
01:12:714 (4) - make it points toward directly to 01:14:143 (5) - Tried but no change
01:18:250 (1,2,1) - this overlaps is kinda bad IMO ^

Hard
00:12:893 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this jump is too hard for this kind of diff. maybe decrease the spacing I want to keep this
00:15:572 (4) - make it adjacent with 00:15:214 (3) - ^
00:21:822 (3) - u made a perfect blanket with 00:20:572 (1) - but that makes the position of the note a little awkward with the next slider. maybe try to make it look like this (it's not perfect but I now you can make it). you can still make a blanket. Fixed
00:29:500 (3,4) - I don't think this sliders needs to be stacked No change
00:54:679 (5) - kinda feels wrong, but I dunno how to deal with it. ^
01:05:214 (5,1) - this part here is kinda bad. maybe make 01:05:214 (5) - adjacent to 01:04:857 (4) - and move 01:05:572 (1) - up and make 01:05:214 (5) pointing directly towards 01:05:572 (1) - Tried but no change
01:08:429 (4) - ctrl+G maybe ? ^
01:17:357 (6) - stacking it with 01:17:536 (7) - looks better IMO ^
01:24:322 (1,2,3,1,2) - again with this jumps. ^

Insane
00:07:357 (1) - this slider is kinda awkward being placed near after that jump, maybe move it a little farther. Fixed
00:08:429 (1,2,3) - increase spacing maybe ? I want to keep this
00:19:143 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - for a 3.99 star diff insane, this jumps is overkill. I will change it if I find a better idea
00:22:000 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ^ ^
00:30:572 (4,5) - doesn't need to be stacked IMO I want to keep this
00:32:357 (1,2,3) - not good ^
00:52:357 (1,2,3) - increase spacing ? ^
00:55:214 (1,2,3) - for this part maybe put 00:55:214 (1) - in 00:55:393 (2) - position and stack 00:55:393 (2) - in 00:55:572 (3) - . Tried but no change
00:56:464 (4,1) - looks bad I think it is fine

Nice map. You did a great job mapping it in 1/8 BSD. Good luck ~
Thank you very much~
Nerova Riuz GX
Hi Citrus, This is from my queue's mod.
我在這裡指出一些問題,來提醒你我覺得不太對的地方 可能會因為我的個性所以mod內容非常的暴躁無理生氣之類
總之 加油! 這是一首好歌。

General

  1. 首先,是最為重要的BPM及offset問題,在這兩個基礎不正確的狀況下,不管圖形美觀不美觀,好打不好打,只能形同無用之物。
    如果以原先的84 BPM,則不管歌唱的開頭還是樂器開頭,都沒有對上白線。當然這可以靠offset達成,但是效果並不比168 BPM好,
    尤其是使用了84 BPM,連打卻是在1/8拍底下作圖,本身並不符合常理
    而這首歌本身的重音並不明顯,且重音不規律,因此紅線絕對不只一條4/4,會用到3/4、5/4、甚至是7/4。
    經由簡略歸納過後"我所認為"的拍子數(基於168 BPM):
    列表
    自offset 214 開始,數字代表拍數,兩個數字為一組畫底線方便辨認,中間的粗直線是用來分別段落。
    8 6 | 7 5 7 6 7 5 7 6 7 8 | 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 | 2 | 7 6 7 6 8 4 8 6 | 8 7 8 7 | 1.5 | 7 5.5 | 7 5 | 5
    然後配合上面那一整條(可能看不懂),這是"我覺得"應該要放的紅線
    列表
    皆為 BPM 168
    00:00:214 - 4/4
    00:02:714 - 6/4 or 3/4
    00:04:857 - 7/4
    00:07:357 - 5/4
    00:09:142 - 7/4
    00:11:642 - 6/4
    00:13:785 - 7/4
    00:16:285 - 5/4
    00:18:071 - 7/4
    00:20:571 - 6/4
    00:25:214 - 4/4
    00:28:071 - 6/4 (這一條較特殊個人覺得可以換成 84 BPM 3/4)
    00:45:928 - 7/4
    00:48:428 - 6/4
    00:50:571 - 7/4
    00:53:071 - 6/4 or 3/4
    00:55:214 - 4/4
    01:02:357 - 6/4 or 3/4
    01:04:499 - 4/4
    01:07:357 - 7/4
    01:09:857 - 4/4
    01:12:714 - 7/4
    01:15:749 - 7/4
    01:18:249 - 5/4
    01:20:214 - 7/4
    01:22:714 - 5/4
    然後非常明顯的,這需要找一個timing mod
    要是假設我是BN看到這個timing一定戳泡要求砍掉重練
  2. 再來,Source為何不是用日文原文?
  3. 就player方面來看,白色的combo colour放在這個BG上並不是那麼好辨認。 並非所有的玩家都使用黑色背景與自定義skin進行遊戲,尤其是新手。
  4. 考慮 preview time 為 00:45:929 - 。可能是為了人聲的第一個音節才設在現在這個位置,但是從外面聽聽不太出來。

Insane

不多,輕描淡寫即可
  1. 00:08:429 (1,2,3) - 考慮改換為一個來回滑條,或是一個滑條+circle
  2. 00:11:822 (4) - 考慮NC
  3. 00:34:500 (1) - 這個hold slider實在想也想不出個所以然啊。沒有對到任何拍子。
  4. 00:36:643 (1) - 也是沒有東西可以對。慢歌中步調最慢的地方,出現了整張圖步調最快的hold slider。似乎不太對。
    ((不過00:40:929 (1) - 在我的看法上可以接受,因為人聲有長音,但是前兩個完全沒有任何聲音
  5. 00:46:464 (2,3) - 試試讓2來回,而不是3
  6. 00:49:500 (6) - 稍微有點兒擔心是否會有折返箭頭擋住的問題
  7. 00:56:822 (1) - 沒對到拍子。 這個位置人聲比鼓還要大,建議對準人聲去map。同時這個位置的NC可以考慮去掉
  8. 01:13:964 (8) - 考慮NC
  9. 01:15:214 - 聲音挺清楚的。或許來個靜音的note,如何?
  10. 01:23:786 (9) - 考慮NC這裡,而不是01:24:143 (1) - (當然如果兩個都要NC我也是支持的)
觀賞了一遍以後,不得不對此暫停的技術與美震懾了一下,掌握得很棒,距離亦同
較可惜的是grid的左上/左下缺乏發揮,然如果有那肯定更棒了。((我還要求什麼呢

Hard

同Insane,也是不多

  1. 00:50:214 (4) - 試試看與00:49:500 (3) - 的尾端重疊,然後00:50:572 (1) - 放在00:50:750 (2) - 的開頭
  2. 00:54:679 (5) - 不解其折返的意涵。在00:54:768 - 這個點底下沒有聲音。

大略至此。越低的難度對我而言越沒有概念,可能幫不太上忙。
祝你好運
Topic Starter
Citrus

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

Hi Citrus, This is from my queue's mod.
我在這裡指出一些問題,來提醒你我覺得不太對的地方 可能會因為我的個性所以mod內容非常的暴躁無理生氣之類
總之 加油! 這是一首好歌。

General

  1. 首先,是最為重要的BPM及offset問題,在這兩個基礎不正確的狀況下,不管圖形美觀不美觀,好打不好打,只能形同無用之物。
    如果以原先的84 BPM,則不管歌唱的開頭還是樂器開頭,都沒有對上白線。當然這可以靠offset達成,但是效果並不比168 BPM好,
    尤其是使用了84 BPM,連打卻是在1/8拍底下作圖,本身並不符合常理
    而這首歌本身的重音並不明顯,且重音不規律,因此紅線絕對不只一條4/4,會用到3/4、5/4、甚至是7/4。
    經由簡略歸納過後"我所認為"的拍子數(基於168 BPM):
    列表
    自offset 214 開始,數字代表拍數,兩個數字為一組畫底線方便辨認,中間的粗直線是用來分別段落。
    8 6 | 7 5 7 6 7 5 7 6 7 8 | 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 | 2 | 7 6 7 6 8 4 8 6 | 8 7 8 7 | 1.5 | 7 5.5 | 7 5 | 5
    然後配合上面那一整條(可能看不懂),這是"我覺得"應該要放的紅線
    列表
    皆為 BPM 168
    00:00:214 - 4/4
    00:02:714 - 6/4 or 3/4
    00:04:857 - 7/4
    00:07:357 - 5/4
    00:09:142 - 7/4
    00:11:642 - 6/4
    00:13:785 - 7/4
    00:16:285 - 5/4
    00:18:071 - 7/4
    00:20:571 - 6/4
    00:25:214 - 4/4
    00:28:071 - 6/4 (這一條較特殊個人覺得可以換成 84 BPM 3/4)
    00:45:928 - 7/4
    00:48:428 - 6/4
    00:50:571 - 7/4
    00:53:071 - 6/4 or 3/4
    00:55:214 - 4/4
    01:02:357 - 6/4 or 3/4
    01:04:499 - 4/4
    01:07:357 - 7/4
    01:09:857 - 4/4
    01:12:714 - 7/4
    01:15:749 - 7/4
    01:18:249 - 5/4
    01:20:214 - 7/4
    01:22:714 - 5/4
    然後非常明顯的,這需要找一個timing mod 我会找timing mod的
    要是假設我是BN看到這個timing一定戳泡要求砍掉重練
  2. 再來,Source為何不是用日文原文? 改了
  3. 就player方面來看,白色的combo colour放在這個BG上並不是那麼好辨認。 並非所有的玩家都使用黑色背景與自定義skin進行遊戲,尤其是新手。这个暂时保留
  4. 考慮 preview time 為 00:45:929 - 。可能是為了人聲的第一個音節才設在現在這個位置,但是從外面聽聽不太出來。我还是比较倾向于00:45:749

Insane

不多,輕描淡寫即可
  1. 00:08:429 (1,2,3) - 考慮改換為一個來回滑條,或是一個滑條+circle 比较喜欢原来的
  2. 00:11:822 (4) - 考慮NC
  3. 00:34:500 (1) - 這個hold slider實在想也想不出個所以然啊。沒有對到任何拍子。这里跟的是那一串铃声
  4. 00:36:643 (1) - 也是沒有東西可以對。慢歌中步調最慢的地方,出現了整張圖步調最快的hold slider。似乎不太對。^
    ((不過00:40:929 (1) - 在我的看法上可以接受,因為人聲有長音,但是前兩個完全沒有任何聲音
  5. 00:46:464 (2,3) - 試試讓2來回,而不是3
  6. 00:49:500 (6) - 稍微有點兒擔心是否會有折返箭頭擋住的問題 应该没问题
  7. 00:56:822 (1) - 沒對到拍子。 這個位置人聲比鼓還要大,建議對準人聲去map。同時這個位置的NC可以考慮去掉 这里是非常突出的钢琴音,所以我想以一个特别的方式来表现
  8. 01:13:964 (8) - 考慮NC 这里感觉不用NC
  9. 01:15:214 - 聲音挺清楚的。或許來個靜音的note,如何? Insane难度这里不打算加note
  10. 01:23:786 (9) - 考慮NC這裡,而不是01:24:143 (1) - (當然如果兩個都要NC我也是支持的)
觀賞了一遍以後,不得不對此暫停的技術與美震懾了一下,掌握得很棒,距離亦同
較可惜的是grid的左上/左下缺乏發揮,然如果有那肯定更棒了。((我還要求什麼呢

Hard

同Insane,也是不多

  1. 00:50:214 (4) - 試試看與00:49:500 (3) - 的尾端重疊,然後00:50:572 (1) - 放在00:50:750 (2) - 的開頭 这里打算保留
  2. 00:54:679 (5) - 不解其折返的意涵。在00:54:768 - 這個點底下沒有聲音。改成两个note了

大略至此。越低的難度對我而言越沒有概念,可能幫不太上忙。
祝你好運
发现了要害问题,非常感谢 :D
h1b1k11


Insane
00:06:641 (7) - Ctrl+G
00:29:141 (2,3) - Separate these out from 00:28:070 (1)
00:33:784 (3) - Slider could be over here

01:15:213 - Add circle

Hard
01:21:463 (5,6) - Separating out leading to slider 01:21:820 (7)

Normal diff seems to be pretty good.

Love this song by the way. Thanks for mapping it. ;)
Topic Starter
Citrus

imaikiseta wrote:



Insane
00:06:641 (7) - Ctrl+G I want to keep this
00:29:141 (2,3) - Separate these out from 00:28:070 (1) ^
00:33:784 (3) - Slider could be over here ^

01:15:213 - Add circle Fixed

Hard
01:21:463 (5,6) - Separating out leading to slider 01:21:820 (7) Sorry I don't like this :(

Normal diff seems to be pretty good.

Love this song by the way. Thanks for mapping it. ;)
Thank you very much~
Monstrata
From my queue hehhh... I remember this song, I thought it'd be really hard to time... Yep all those red lines lmao...

[Insane]

00:11:106 (3) - Ctrl+G this for better flow.
00:13:070 (2,3,1,2) - Are these overlaps necessary? :C Hard to read and breaks flow from 3>1
00:22:713 (1,2) - Did you intend to stack these? Cuz you made them all lateral jumps in your previous pattern... 00:22:891 (2,3) - Ctrl+G more consistent.
00:46:463 (2) - Rotate this 180 degrees from selection center. Better flow imo.
00:56:820 (1) - Why is this NC"ed :S
01:21:106 (7) - How about shortening this slider to 1/2 and adding a circle at 01:21:463 - ?

[Hard]

00:35:927 (3,4) - 1/2 slider instead? Makes the transition a bit easier imo.. since the section right before this was really slow and almost all sliders.
00:39:498 (1,2,1) - This spacing is a bit deceptive... since theres actually a 1/1 gap between 2>1 but it looks the same as the spacing before...

[Normal]

00:43:070 (3,4,5) - A 3/4 repeat slider would have been simpler lol. Since you don't use this rhythm anywhere else :\.
00:43:785 - Btw just noticed this but, shouldn't the offset be 43784? Not that it really matters lol.


Good luck, short mod cuz this mapset is really well done!
Topic Starter
Citrus

monstrata wrote:

From my queue hehhh... I remember this song, I thought it'd be really hard to time... Yep all those red lines lmao...

[Insane]

00:11:106 (3) - Ctrl+G this for better flow. Fixed
00:13:070 (2,3,1,2) - Are these overlaps necessary? :C Hard to read and breaks flow from 3>1 I want to keep these
00:22:713 (1,2) - Did you intend to stack these? Cuz you made them all lateral jumps in your previous pattern... 00:22:891 (2,3) - Ctrl+G more consistent. ^
00:46:463 (2) - Rotate this 180 degrees from selection center. Better flow imo. ^
00:56:820 (1) - Why is this NC"ed :S I want to emphasize the piano
01:21:106 (7) - How about shortening this slider to 1/2 and adding a circle at 01:21:463 - ? It's not appropriate

[Hard]

00:35:927 (3,4) - 1/2 slider instead? Makes the transition a bit easier imo.. since the section right before this was really slow and almost all sliders. Not hard for players
00:39:498 (1,2,1) - This spacing is a bit deceptive... since theres actually a 1/1 gap between 2>1 but it looks the same as the spacing before... Fixed

[Normal]

00:43:070 (3,4,5) - A 3/4 repeat slider would have been simpler lol. Since you don't use this rhythm anywhere else :\. I want to keep these
00:43:785 - Btw just noticed this but, shouldn't the offset be 43784? Not that it really matters lol. Fixed


Good luck, short mod cuz this mapset is really well done!
Thank you very much~
Neku Okazaki


Timing

Why you put this timing points?, delete some timing points.

00:00:214 - Delete
00:02:713 - Delete

And some more but you need to delete this^

[Normal]
00:06:106 (2,3) - Try to do a blanket, is better for me ~


[Hard]
00:36:641 (1,2) - Im not sure about it but idk wath can you do

[Insane]
00:19:142 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Oh, try other thing, im not sure about this
00:21:999 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ^
01:04:678 (2,3,4) - You can change this for a slider
01:12:891 (3,4,5) - ^
01:20:749 (5,6) - ^

Sorry, Im new moding std ~
Topic Starter
Citrus

Neku okazaki wrote:



Timing

Why you put this timing points?, delete some timing points. They are necessary,I'll find a timing mod

00:00:214 - Delete
00:02:713 - Delete

And some more but you need to delete this^

[Normal]
00:06:106 (2,3) - Try to do a blanket, is better for me ~ Fixed


[Hard]
00:36:641 (1,2) - Im not sure about it but idk wath can you do Changed 00:37:177 (2,3) - for a slider

[Insane]
00:19:142 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Oh, try other thing, im not sure about this I will change them if I have a better idea
00:21:999 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ^
01:04:678 (2,3,4) - You can change this for a slider No need to do this
01:12:891 (3,4,5) - ^ ^
01:20:749 (5,6) - ^ ^

Sorry, Im new moding std ~
Thank you very much~
-Sh1n1-


[General]

  1. Uncheck "Widescreen Support"

[Normal]

  1. 00:41:641 (2,3) - Are you sure about that? It can be confusing for newbies
  2. 01:18:249 (1,2,1) - too close, is not a beautiful pattern.

[Hard]

  1. 01:09:856 (1) - Ctrl+G
  2. 00:32:177 (2) - unncesary, delete please.
  3. 00:37:177 (2,3) - change both to slider
  4. 00:50:571 (1) - move to the head of 00:50:749 (2) -
  5. 00:32:355 - New combo start here, not here 00:31:998 -
  6. 00:44:677 (5) - new combo here not at 00:45:212 -

[Insane]

  1. 00:21:999 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - confusing ;w; specially 00:22:713 (1,2) -
  2. 00:55:213 (1,2) - change to slider, feels weird when I'm playing.
  3. 01:09:498 (6) - is not the same different between 01:09:320 (5,6) - and 01:08:963 (3,4) - Try to keep the consistency.
  4. 00:19:142 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - orz, too confusing ;w;
  5. New combo at 00:44:676 -
  6. 01:13:427 (7) - adjust this slider
  7. 01:14:141 (2) - same as above ^
I love this map, you have strong pattern, I'll give you my star *-*/ Good Luck
Neku Okazaki
I think "osterreich" is with capital letter... "Osterreich"

No kudosu pls
Topic Starter
Citrus

-Sh1n1- wrote:



[General]

  1. Uncheck "Widescreen Support" Fixed

[Normal]

  1. 00:41:641 (2,3) - Are you sure about that? It can be confusing for newbies No problem here
  2. 01:18:249 (1,2,1) - too close, is not a beautiful pattern. I following the distance snap here,it should ok

[Hard]

  1. 01:09:856 (1) - Ctrl+G Fixed
  2. 00:32:177 (2) - unncesary, delete please. Fixed
  3. 00:37:177 (2,3) - change both to slider No need to do this
  4. 00:50:571 (1) - move to the head of 00:50:749 (2) - I don't like this flow
  5. 00:32:355 - New combo start here, not here 00:31:998 - Fixed
  6. 00:44:677 (5) - new combo here not at 00:45:212 - The piano volume begins to increase,I want to emphasize it

[Insane]

  1. 00:21:999 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - confusing ;w; specially 00:22:713 (1,2) - I will change them if I have a better idea
  2. 00:55:213 (1,2) - change to slider, feels weird when I'm playing. No change
  3. 01:09:498 (6) - is not the same different between 01:09:320 (5,6) - and 01:08:963 (3,4) - Try to keep the consistency. It looks fine
  4. 00:19:142 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - orz, too confusing ;w; ^
  5. New combo at 00:44:676 - Same as Hard diff
  6. 01:13:427 (7) - adjust this slider Why?I think it's fine
  7. 01:14:141 (2) - same as above ^ ^
I love this map, you have strong pattern, I'll give you my star *-*/ Good Luck
Thank you very much~

Neku okazaki wrote:

I think "osterreich" is with capital letter... "Osterreich" Maybe no problem with lowercase letter

No kudosu pls
Deif
HabiHolic summoned me. Wow those metronome resets:

SPOILER
[TimingPoints]
210,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
2709,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
4851,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
7350,357.142857142857,3,2,1,50,1,0
9492,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
13777,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
16280,357.142857142857,5,2,1,50,1,0
18066,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
20566,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
22708,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
25208,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
43065,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
45923,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
48423,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
50565,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
53065,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
55208,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
62350,357.142857142857,3,2,1,50,1,0
63421,357.142857142857,5,2,1,50,1,0
65208,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
67350,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
69850,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
74135,357.142857142857,3,2,1,50,1,0
75742,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
78242,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
81099,357.142857142857,5,2,1,50,1,0
82884,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
84134,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0

All of them taken from this video:



PS: I modified some of them nevertheless:
  1. 00:43:065 - Decided to add the 6/4, when there's already an inflexion point, instead of 2/1 later.
  2. 01:14:135 - This should've been a 9/8, but osu! doesn't support such complex tempo signatures. Added a 3/4 (the lyrics stop at that spot) and started the next stanza at a red line instead.
  3. 01:22:884 - Another 9/8. Added a 4/4 in this occasion, since there aren't relevant instruments in white ticks this time.
  4. 01:24:134 - Decided to start this tempo signature a beat earlier, instead of at 01:24:491 - . Both options are valid. According to the video, this is a 12/8 (lol), more or less a 6/4. Adding the line at 01:24:491 - would make more sense if it were a 5/4. But the decision is yours.
Hope it helped!
eeezzzeee
Hi, from my modding queue

I tried to play it first but the timing doesn't feel right..

Anyways, please look at ^ Deif's timing mod right above this and I'll be back after you apply that! :)
Topic Starter
Citrus

Deif wrote:

HabiHolic summoned me. Wow those metronome resets:

SPOILER
[TimingPoints]
210,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
2709,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
4851,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
7350,357.142857142857,3,2,1,50,1,0
9492,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
13777,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
16280,357.142857142857,5,2,1,50,1,0
18066,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
20566,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
22708,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
25208,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
43065,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
45923,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
48423,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
50565,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
53065,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
55208,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
62350,357.142857142857,3,2,1,50,1,0
63421,357.142857142857,5,2,1,50,1,0
65208,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0
67350,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
69850,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
74135,357.142857142857,3,2,1,50,1,0
75742,357.142857142857,7,2,1,50,1,0
78242,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
81099,357.142857142857,5,2,1,50,1,0
82884,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
84134,357.142857142857,6,2,1,50,1,0

All of them taken from this video:


PS: I modified some of them nevertheless:
  1. 00:43:065 - Decided to add the 6/4, when there's already an inflexion point, instead of 2/1 later.
  2. 01:14:135 - This should've been a 9/8, but osu! doesn't support such complex tempo signatures. Added a 3/4 (the lyrics stop at that spot) and started the next stanza at a red line instead.
  3. 01:22:884 - Another 9/8. Added a 4/4 in this occasion, since there aren't relevant instruments in white ticks this time.
  4. 01:24:134 - Decided to start this tempo signature a beat earlier, instead of at 01:24:491 - . Both options are valid. According to the video, this is a 12/8 (lol), more or less a 6/4. Adding the line at 01:24:491 - would make more sense if it were a 5/4. But the decision is yours.
Hope it helped!
All fixed.This timing mod helped me a lot,thank you very much :)
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