bananannian wrote:

Hi! From PM.
I am pretty thorough, so don't feel bad if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3
After looking through my mod, would you mind taking the time to check out my taiko set? <3 once you gather enough mods

And also, I don't currently have the time to do all the difficulties, so I will look at Kantan and Futsuu first. Tell me whether to edit in my mod of other difficulties or post a new post, ok? all on this post is preferred, at least until oni
[General]
Muzukashii and Oni's note patterns don't repeat a lot it seems... A key factor to good taiko maps is consistency. Try copy and pasting some patterns you made over similar segments and sections of the song. I'd better have some variety on these diffs, the song is too straightforward not to have changes everywhere.


[Kantan]
00:24:889 (8,9) - These offbeat 1/2 notes are not expected for Kantan difficulty, consider changing. I left long gaps around this spot so it isn't hard to hit.
00:34:994 (21,22) - ^ ^
00:42:415 - add k, this gap is kinda awkward at high BPM, it's more than recommended to have 4/1 breaks.
00:52:521 - add k, ^ ^
01:10:836 (71) - change to D, signify end of previous 8-bar phrase no strong sound behind it
01:34:205 - add k, this gap is kinda awkward (and it is kiai time, difficulty could be increased a little)
01:36:731 - add k, ^ In general, the kiai is a tad harder than the rest.
01:43:678 (21) - change to D, see 01:10:836 same
01:44:310 - add k, see 01:34:205 all same---
01:46:836 - add k, ^
01:53:784 (36) - change to D, see 01:10:836
02:03:889 (50) - change to D, ^ ---till that one
02:26:626 (69,70) - I would suggest removing those 2 notes as the music is fading out, your choice though! Mmmmh have to think about that one.

[Futsuu]
00:21:257 - either add k, or move 00:20:626 (9) to this position First solution will make the pattern a bit too long, and second would have a weird impact (long pattern but fits better). Keeping for now.
00:31:363 - similar to above ^
00:34:994 (48) - consider removing this note, as there is no such rhythm in the music (unlike 00:24:889) actually, there is
00:46:521 (82,83) - change to d k, match melody pitch mmmmmmh that one isn't that bad, but I didn't focus mainly on melody as it would have a weird outcome.
00:50:626 (94) - change to D, signify end of previous 8-bar phrase same as kantan, no strong support of D
00:56:626 (111,112) - see 00:46:521 goes the same
01:10:836 (149) - change to D, see 00:50:626 same
01:24:731 (178,179,180,181,182) - suggest changing hitsounds to "soft" I think I'll just change the volume instead, changing to soft is not a good idea
01:41:152 (212) - change to d, match melody pitch
01:41:784 (214) - change to k, ^ hey these actually aren't bad ideas
01:45:573 (225) - change to k and move to 01:45:889, better match the beat not a bad idea
01:52:521 (242,247) - change to D, emphasizes onbeat and incoming chorus no strong support for big notes
02:00:889 - add d, fill in this gap and follow melody I counterbalanced as the previous part was kinda hard.
02:03:889 (277) - change to D, see 00:50:626 no strong support
02:15:257 (307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315) - I would recommend adding timing sections and use volume control and make it gradually fade out could be a thing but I'll just decrease volume all together. updated all higher diffs as a consequence.

Remillion Cross wrote:

Because my diff was stupidly hard (too).. finally changed some pattern included those absurd LNs

http://puu.sh/fqJ2v/d07f83aa29.osu (Million's 7K SHD)

lovely.

bananannian wrote:

Hi! From PM.
I am pretty thorough, so don't feel bad if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3
After looking through my mod, would you mind taking the time to check out my taiko set? <3

And also, I don't currently have the time to do all the difficulties, so I will look at Kantan and Futsuu first. Tell me whether to edit in my mod of other difficulties or post a new post, ok?

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu


[General]
Difficulty curve spikes for Fatal Oni. Consider making another oni difficulty with around 5 stars, and decrease the difficulty of Fatal Oni. There already is an Inner Oni with a difficulty of around 5 stars.

While we're on the topic of Fatal Oni... That difficulty is unplayable. Straight up unplayable.

1/8 notes at 190 bpm = 0.0395 seconds per note.
Human reaction time = 0.15 to 0.4 seconds.
World record fastest drummer = 1203 strokes/minute = 0.04986 seconds per stroke.

So yeah. That one is fatal indeed. Will look into changing both the Inner and Fatal Onis.

There you go! Let me know when you've polished up fatal oni! Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!

bananannian wrote:

Hi! From PM.
I am pretty thorough, so don't feel bad if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3
After looking through my mod, would you mind taking the time to check out my taiko set? <3

And also, I don't currently have the time to do all the difficulties, so I will look at Kantan and Futsuu first. Tell me whether to edit in my mod of other difficulties or post a new post, ok?

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu

[Inner Oni]
There's still a lot of issues here, I would prefer you fix those before I mod this difficulty.

I feel like this is still slightly overmapped; consider removing some deathstreams, giving the player more 1/2 patterns in calmer sections, etc. I've already removed a lot from this difficulty, but I'll consider removing some of the notes in the beginning of the song. The whole point of an Inner Oni is to be extremely difficult, and that is what I'm trying to give the player; an extremely difficult map while still being fun to play. Update: One stream partially removed and made easier.

Overuse of D and K. It is nigh impossible for a player to play 1/4 streams with big note at the end, or with one in the beginning. D should generally be used only as stress/emphasis, while K should generally only be used for the end of phrases/places with loud cymbals. You definitely don't need to put one for every 2nd and 4th beat lol There are some D and K I can reduce to d and k, but the big blue notes every second and fourth beats are meant to be in time with very emphasized drum sounds in the background. Update: All extra D's and K's have been removed, some recolored to be emphasis providing (the big Red notes).

01:24:731 timing section is at x0.10 bpm... is that intentional? No, it's not intentional. I will fix this shortly
[]

There you go! Let me know when you've polished up fatal oni inner oni! Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!

bananannian wrote:

[Muzukashii]

00:19:994 (13) - I would prefer this to be K instead of k, although this seems to be a good idea due to the clash, I'd keep that because Oni has the same general structure.
00:46:994 (128,129,130) - change to kdk, would match melody The way I intended to make it makes the pitch decrease from 00:46:363 (125,126,127) - have more impact.
00:58:678 - add d, match melody doesn't seem to be a bad idea
00:59:942 (190) - change to d, match 00:49:836 (141) done
01:23:468 (295) - change to K, having cymbals hitsounds here would match the music better, as well as following melody pitch actually is behind a small roll (seen better in oni where it has 1/6)
01:47:626 (393,394) - change to dk, match previous pattern as well as melody pitch done

own fix: 00:54:415 (164,165) - changed to k d

[Oni]

00:25:521 - suggest adding dd here to improve consistency small break due to previous patterns
00:57:100 (291) - change to k, match melody didn't really follow melody but more the background drums on that part.
01:02:705 (334) - change to k, follow previous pattern of how you map the 3rd beat wouldn't really like the effect
01:39:731 (563) - change to k, match synth high note yeah
01:44:468 (602) - ^
01:46:994 (622) - ^ both iterations are more "freestyle" and towards drumming than melody
02:15:573 (833) - move to 02:15:731 , match melody not really, as I've explained once to RFK, the melody goes, each bar: vx^vx^v^, and I take every ^.

_Gezo_ wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ciku9s5d8dsftv0/Supernova.zip?dl=0
disregard the bgs though

streeteelf wrote:

Requested M4M.

[Inner Oni]

For this diff only general mod, because I would spend hours modding this second by second.

Firstly, remove all finishes from 1/4 patterns, IMO even single finishes are unnecessary. Removed 90% of the finishes.
Secondly, try to use more variety with patterns, like not 01:37:363 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) all the time. It's like Copy->Paste beatmap. Rhythm is good, but you have to change patterns, like 01:37:363 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) and later maybe dkd_k_ddkdd_k_d. So I think you should look at the whole map and maybe remap half of it or just change colors.Changed a bunch of patterns and colors. Lots of changes.
Thirdly, change SV to be more constant, only when the music is really slow use lower SV and in Kiai use higher, but not too high, just a little, it's confusing for player when map suddenly goes from 1.5 SV to 1.0. Try for slower part 0.8, then a little faster, so 0.9, normally 1.0 and in Kiai 1.2 maybe. Removed some of the speed changes, and altered the other speed changes to go up to 1.5 during Kiai and then gradually back down towards the ending of the Kiai segment.

Good luck~

Mwalls Ho wrote:

Time to kudosu farming~

Finally some interesting songs to mod
If only someone can make CTB Rain+ diff ._. I've tried to reach out to some CtB mappers to make a Deluge for this, but unfortunately, all of them are too busy to do so at this time.
Always free to reject~

[Salad]
The salad diff is a bit more difficult than a "salad" being a 2.64 star,
since it uses jumps too frequently than a salad level.Please make it
easier refer to ranked ones(around 2 star is fine). (partially accepted and fixed), I'm not going to remove too many of the jumps because the whole idea of this beatmap set is to make every difficulty harder than they normally are. So the Salad difficulty is meant to be between 2.3 and 2.5 stars instead of the normal 2-2.2 stars. Thanks for the suggestion, though

[Overall]
After playing the mania diffs I think you'd better change diff names(7k)
MX+ to SHD
SHD to SHD+
SHD+ to DB
and DB to DB+
since "SHD" is from the mania game O2jam,which uses LN style like Million's diff,
also it's good to have similar diff names to same GDer. Difficulty names are going to stay where they are at the moment because I do not see any reason to change them at this point in time. You make a good point, but again, no reason to change them right now.
And I have to tell you that z3nx's diff is really hard to be accepted by
BATNs(BN sucks wtf). I expect this difficulty to take some heat, and maybe some major changes before it is able to be ranked.
I love the song Take my star~ Thanks for the KDS!
All the best to ranked !

Mwalls Ho wrote:

Time to kudosu farming~

[Zen's 7K SHD+]

00:40:521 01:00:731 01:23:468 O_o Magic kiai time lol. magical indeed, just a small touch for the kiai fountains haha

Have nothng to say about,so good.

Btw please teach me how to make those cool SVs :_; , added you. o,added back o/

[Zen's 7K DB]

If this diff get ranked ,I eat my keyboard live on twitch.
That jacks plz. aaaaa ye, it requires vibro on both hands at 190 bpm which is challenging, eating keyboards is not healthy also :c

[Overall]
After playing the mania diffs I think you'd better change diff names(7k)
MX+ to SHD
SHD to SHD+
SHD+ to DB
and DB to DB+
since "SHD" is from the mania game O2jam,which uses LN style like Million's diff,
also it's good to have similar diff names to same GDer.
And I have to tell you that z3nx's diff is really hard to be accepted by
BATNs(BN sucks wtf). aaaaa idk i'll leave to razor for the diff names )
I love the song Take my star~
All the best to ranked ! thanks o/!

Mwalls Ho wrote:

[Gezo's Muzukashii]
You use this pattern too frequently.
Please reduce its frequency.
http://puu.sh/fPA7V/3ed938b212.jpg

it's muzu i won't make oni patterns wtf

streeteelf wrote:

Requested M4M.

[Gezo's Oni]

- 00:16:521 - add d intended break
- 00:29:942 (90) - d same here, kkkdk is intended, the d is just transition
- 00:30:968 (98,99) - k? on each ? not really what I'd like to. Put that only on 99.
- 00:33:573 (118) - k, to not repeat the same patterns all the time. but the song itself is repetitive so it's a bit consistent.
- 00:36:100 (135) - k better leave that off as ddddd, I prefer the effect to ddkdd.
- 00:43:678 (190,191) - Ctrl+G same, effect will be broken. using k only on white ticks do not really respect the song which has quite a different yet pretty widespread drum pattern.
- 00:46:205 (208,209) - ^ ^
- 00:47:389 (218) - k I don't really like dk kd and it ruinds that thing I keep on repeating
- 00:51:257 (246) - k same reasons as above
- 00:53:705 (264) - k same (despite having a differnt effect)
- 01:06:336 (362) - k dkkd thing
- 01:10:205 (390,391) - k the song doesn't really support here, I prefer following the background quick sounds as well as drum
- 01:32:942 (508,509,510) - Ctrl+G bad idea, every k is on a snare
- 01:42:100 (583,585) - Ctrl+G the two kats are placed on the snare while the three next dons are on the sound.
- 01:49:363 - add d
- 01:50:626 - ^ both are intended breaks, so it emphasizes much more the next kiai
- 02:01:994 (727) - k same thing as above, having kats on white ticks would make the map a bit bland
- 02:03:573 (739) - d yeah sure why not ?
- 02:07:047 (766,767) - Ctrl+G sale stuff as above.

Nice diff, but try to use more patterns, not repeat all the time the same.

_Gezo_ wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ciku9s5d8dsftv0/Supernova.zip?dl=0

_Gezo_ wrote:

y u no mod rest He didn't mod the rest because I only asked him to mod two difficulties as it was a M4M.
btw please add reasoning behind, even if you think it's hard, it'll tell the mappers why you think that way. had a hard time figuring out what was behind the thought process.

_Gezo_ wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ciku9s5d8dsftv0/Supernova.zip?dl=0

wot

Tristan97 wrote:

I would really love to see this ranked.

>Newgrounds being the hardest ranked song

Still, I would really love to see this ranked

Mwalls Ho wrote:

Time to kudosu farming~

Finally some interesting songs to mod
If only someone can make CTB Rain+ diff ._.
Always free to reject~

[Million's 7K MX+]
00:00:100 Add a note to present that clock sound? 00:05:152 Here also.

00:00:257 00:11:310 00:13:836 00:16:363 Why miss on pupose? Wonder the reason ._.

00:19:126 (19126|3,19284|3,19442|3) - Although forms a pattern,I still suggest to remove them since
no sound corresponded.

00:31:836 to 00:33:257 Here is a relative big blank for space.

00:38:310 00:38:942 The heavy drum sound,you used 2 notes to represent them, but here only one note.
Better keep consistency.

How about slow down at here 01:23:468 and then recover gradually with the music?

02:16:836 (136836|0) - Shorten to 02:17:152 ?

02:18:415 (138415|5,138573|3) - Exchange their position?

[Million's 7K SHD]

00:00:257 I think people all get confused about the miss D:

Well,basically I think it's just a intensified version through Mx+,
so I dont have much to say.

02:13:915 (133915|4,133994|4) - But this serious?

Also the ending slow down seems unneccessary.

Nice pattern I like your style If you remember i have modded several your GDs before :p.

[Overall]
After playing the mania diffs I think you'd better change diff names(7k)
MX+ to SHD
SHD to SHD+
SHD+ to DB
and DB to DB+
since "SHD" is from the mania game O2jam,which uses LN style like Million's diff,
also it's good to have similar diff names to same GDer.
And I have to tell you that z3nx's diff is really hard to be accepted by
BATNs(BN sucks wtf).
I love the song Take my star~
All the best to ranked !

Remillion Cross wrote:

Updated, thx !
MX+ : http://puu.sh/g1F1a/22dd805e59.osu
SHD : http://puu.sh/g1F2W/063dd7272d.osu

Remillion Cross wrote:

For readability
MX+ : http://puu.sh/g4Koi/168807f302.osu
SHD : http://puu.sh/g4Kq3/062cb7b5cf.osu

btw i recomend you to change SHD+ name into SC, since SC > SHD

rew0825 wrote:

Hi My GD (not finish)

Rew's Rain

osu file format v14

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80,208,27810,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,128,27889,6,0,L|416:224,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,28205,2,0,L|288:288,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,112,28521,2,0,L|432:208,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,224,28836,2,0,P|80:272|128:320,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,272,29152,6,0,L|48:176,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,224,29468,2,0,L|176:128,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,288,29784,2,0,L|32:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,96,30100,1,8,0:0:0:0:
400,128,30178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,128,30257,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,30336,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,160,30415,6,0,P|480:208|432:256,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,30731,2,0,L|112:256,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,128,31047,2,0,L|336:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,128,31363,2,0,P|64:176|112:224,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,31678,6,0,L|352:288,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,128,31994,2,0,L|224:224,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,176,32310,2,0,L|368:272,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,224,32626,1,8,0:0:0:0:
96,176,32705,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,128,32784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,112,32863,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,128,32942,6,0,P|448:176|400:224,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,224,33257,2,0,L|176:288,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,176,33573,2,0,L|400:240,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,112,33889,1,8,0:0:0:0:
112,128,33968,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,64,34047,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,80,34126,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,112,34205,6,0,P|112:160|160:208,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,128,34521,2,0,L|352:224,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,224,34836,2,0,L|224:320,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,80,35152,1,8,0:0:0:0:
432,96,35231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,144,35310,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,192,35389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,112,35468,6,0,L|48:176,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,160,35784,2,0,L|272:224,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,96,36100,2,0,L|32:160,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,80,36415,2,0,P|432:128|384:176,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,36731,6,0,L|160:288,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,128,37047,2,0,L|352:224,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,176,37363,2,0,L|144:272,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,112,37678,2,0,L|368:208,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,80,37994,5,2,0:0:0:0:
80,96,38073,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,144,38152,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,192,38231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,38310,1,8,0:0:0:0:
304,208,38389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,256,38468,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,304,38547,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,208,38626,1,2,0:0:0:0:
80,192,38705,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,304,38784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,38863,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,38942,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,208,39021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,256,39100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,304,39178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,64,39257,6,0,L|416:112,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,112,39415,2,0,L|400:64,1,50
368,64,39573,2,0,L|352:111,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,112,39731,2,0,L|368:64,1,50
192,192,39889,2,0,L|184:224,5,33.3333333333333,2|0|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,40205,2,0,L|400:240,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
399,239,40363,2,0,L|384:192,1,50
128,80,40521,6,0,P|64:144|128:208,1,200,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,144,40994,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,41073,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,144,41231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,41310,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,144,41468,2,0,P|512:208|448:272,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,80,41942,6,0,L|96:176,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,144,42257,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,160,42336,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,240,42494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,224,42573,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,144,42731,2,0,P|512:208|448:272,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,160,43205,6,0,L|224:128,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,144,43521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,160,43600,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,240,43757,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,224,43836,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,160,43994,2,0,P|64:224|128:288,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,224,44468,6,0,L|416:128,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,80,44784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,128,44863,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,224,45021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,176,45100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,160,45257,2,0,L|48:240,2,100,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,80,45731,6,0,L|400:160,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,160,46047,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,192,46126,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,224,46284,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,46363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,112,46521,2,0,P|448:176|384:240,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,112,46994,6,0,P|128:176|192:240,1,200
384,112,47468,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,128,47547,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,176,47626,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,224,47705,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,112,47784,1,8,0:0:0:0:
144,128,47863,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,176,47942,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,224,48021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,240,48100,6,0,L|400:288,7,50,2|0|0|0|8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,112,48731,2,0,L|112:160,7,50,2|0|0|0|8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,80,49363,5,2,0:0:0:0:
432,96,49442,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,144,49521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,192,49600,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,112,49678,1,8,0:0:0:0:
80,128,49757,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,176,49836,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,224,49915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,304,49994,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,256,50073,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,208,50152,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,50231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,224,50310,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,176,50389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,128,50468,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,112,50547,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,80,50626,6,0,L|464:160,2,100,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,112,51100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,128,51178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,208,51336,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,51415,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,51573,2,0,P|448:256|384:320,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,52047,6,0,L|96:288,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,52363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,144,52442,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,144,52600,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,52678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,64,52836,2,0,P|64:128|128:192,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,224,53231,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,53310,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,224,53389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,53468,2,0,P|448:256|384:320,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,53863,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,320,53942,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,288,54021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,320,54100,2,0,P|64:256|128:192,1,200,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,54573,6,0,P|320:128|256:64,1,200
128,128,55047,2,0,L|368:128,1,200,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,55521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,304,55678,5,2,0:0:0:0:
208,288,55757,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,240,55836,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,192,55915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,55994,1,8,0:0:0:0:
432,176,56073,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,128,56152,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,80,56231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,80,56310,1,2,0:0:0:0:
112,128,56389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,176,56468,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,56547,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,256,56626,1,8,0:0:0:0:
464,304,56705,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,352,56784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,368,56863,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,320,56942,6,0,L|96:272,7,50,2|0|0|0|8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,57573,2,0,L|336:144,7,50,2|0|0|0|8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,58205,5,2,0:0:0:0:
144,208,58284,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,256,58363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,304,58442,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,58521,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,144,58600,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,96,58678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,80,58757,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,80,58836,1,2,0:0:0:0:
80,96,58915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,144,58994,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,192,59073,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,304,59152,1,8,0:0:0:0:
400,256,59231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,208,59310,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,59389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,208,59468,6,0,L|112:256,3,50,2|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,59784,2,0,L|352:240,3,50,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,80,60100,2,0,L|48:128,5,33.3333333333333,2|0|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,80,60415,1,8,0:0:0:0:
416,128,60494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,176,60573,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,60652,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,60731,1,4,0:0:0:0:

spartancog95 wrote:

I've never modded before so excuse my post not looking like the others. I'm new to the forums as this is my first post. My suggestions are regarding the Salad difficulty though.

First off, the map seems more like a platter with the Ar of a salad. This is further proved by the star rating exceeding the usual salad maximum of 2.5 stars. A lot of the jumps are too difficult for someone who would play the salad difficulty.

An example of one of these jumps: 00:46:678 (1) - 00:47:152 (2) - 00:47:310 (3)

These kind of jumps make this difficulty seem more than a salad in my opinion.

Hopefully my information was even slightly helpful.

arviejhay wrote:

hello u req?


1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Accepted and fixed changes
Partially accepted and fixed changes
Denied changes

[7K NM]

This is NM not HD

00:00:100 (100|2,100|4) - remove, too hard for NM Removed the yellow note to make this chord easier to hit.
00:05:152 (5152|2,5152|0,5152|6,5152|4) - why?! its only the bell sound i hear and the hithat, i suggest to remove 1 or 2 notes. Removed one note and changed position of the other note.
00:25:363 (25363|6,25363|5,25363|3,25363|1,25363|0) - too much notes. remove 1 or 2 notes Removed one note.
00:30:415 (30415|2,30415|1,30415|3,30415|4,30415|5) - remove 1 note Done.
00:39:889 (39889|0,39889|2,39889|4,39889|6) - remove 1 note Removed two notes as both three and four notes are too many for this sound. Thanks for the catch!
00:50:626 (50626|5,50626|2,50626|0,50626|6,50626|1,50626|4) - remove 2 or 3 notes Two notes removed.

[7K HD]
00:42:100 (42100|3) - move to 3 Fixed!

[7K MX]
01:00:100 - more the 6 notes simultaneously is not allowed. Whoops! My bad! I should have noticed this sooner :/

That's all

Good luck on this!

schwarzvgrune wrote:

hi, as requested, m4m
1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4 5
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Accepted and fixed changes
Partially accepted and fixed changes
Denied changes

general
is less than 15 sec kiai allowed? (i dont know so tell me please >_<) Changed the second Kiai segment so that it lasts the entire duration instead of cutting out right before the third Kiai segment on EVERY difficulty BUT the Taiko difficulties.

mods given for hand balance
to a limited extend pitch relevancy (not important though)
5K NM

SPOILER

00:19:678 (19678|0) - 2 Done.
00:19:994 (19994|4) - 4 Done.


you use a lot of 3 notes chord, is this okay for NM?
consider decreasing them,
examples
00:20:310 (20310|0,20310|2,20310|4) - is fine because it signify phase change,
00:25:363 (25363|4,25363|1,25363|0) - ^

consider using 2 only for these for example
00:21:257 (21257|1,21257|0,21257|3) -
00:22:521 (22521|0,22521|3,22521|2) -
00:23:784 (23784|4,23784|0,23784|1) -
00:26:310 (26310|0,26310|2,26310|1) -
00:28:836 (28836|2,28836|4,28836|3) -
00:31:363 (31363|3,31363|4,31363|1) - and so on, you get the gist...

I will go through and remove all three note chords that I deem are unnecessary.


00:34:994 - add to 2 3, significant beat sound Done.
00:34:678 (34678|1) - move to 5 Done.

00:40:836 (40836|3,40836|1) - delete, Done.
00:40:205 - why not follow the pitched instrument starting from here? you follow them here right
00:41:310 (41310|4,41310|2,41626|1,41626|3,42100|0,42100|1,42573|3,42573|2,43047|0,43047|1) -
consider using LN as well? I originally removed the LNs that I had because I didn't really like having them there, but I'll re-add them for this difficulty. All taken care of.

00:49:678 (49678|4,49836|4) - different pitch, illogical to place it on 5 5... Done.
00:50:152 (50152|2,50310|2,50468|2,50626|2) - ^ Done.
00:57:889 - you omit 2/4 x 2 pitched instrument? Fixed.

01:00:257 (60257|2,60415|2,60731|0) - need 1 more note, your earlier pattern suggest that, and also alternate placing because pitch totally different Done.

00:59:784 (59784|3,59942|3) -

and those are different with these 01:02:310 (62310|3,62468|3,62784|1,62942|1) - , i know which sound you're following here, so this one is fine.

01:51:257 (111257|0,111257|1,111257|3,111257|4) - 4? on NM? never seen ranked map with that before o.o Reduced to 3.

please consider those 3notes, you use a lot of them.. i've never seen ranked 5k NM with that many 3 notes.. Removed as many of them as I could without compromising the flow of the map.

5K HD

SPOILER

00:00:257 - add to 3, your next pattern consistently have a note for every 2/4 beat.. there is a pitched sound as well so why not? Done.
for HD commonly used chord are 3 notes, and on special occasion signifying phase changes 4 could be used (like the first one here)
i will not point specifically on this diff, consider fixing if you do use too many 4 notes

00:34:678 (34678|2,34678|1) - use 1 note? no significant beat like the next one While there is no significant sound like the previous sound, I don't think that it would be beneficial to the flow of the map. Therefore, I'm not going to change that.

00:49:678 (49678|3,49678|1,49836|3,49836|1,50152|0,50152|2,50310|0,50310|2,50468|3) - different pitch consider differing placement?Used different placement (or at least tried to).

5K MX

SPOILER

00:03:415 (3415|1) - rather than LN why not use 1/8 stair notes? its MX o.o Changed to something more interesting
01:00:100 (60100|3) - delete? idk what you're following here. Using the strange cymbal-like sound in the background.

01:20:626 (80626|2,80705|3,80784|4) - use 1/8 instead of 1/4, stair stream Changed.
01:23:152 (83152|0,83231|1,83310|3) - ^ Changed.

7K NM

SPOILER

max 3 notes on special occasion, you use 5 O.O? delete. This mapset is meant to be hard, so there's going to be a few things that might be a little bit different about some difficulties. That being said, there's going to be a few instances where four note chords are used in this difficulty. There are only 7 times where I use four notes and all seven of these times are places where I feel that four notes are required.

00:05:152 (5152|0,5152|2,5152|6,5152|4) - same.. max 3... Taken care of in a previous mod.

3 notes only for special occasion so..
00:17:784 (17784|5,17784|3,17784|1,18100|6,18100|4,18100|2,18415|0,18415|3,18415|5,18731|6,18731|4,18731|2,19047|0,19047|2,19047|5) - change to 2 notes accordingly all these, and apply to the rest of the diff

01:20:942 (80942|1,80942|5,80942|0,80942|6) - these change to 3...
01:32:310 (92310|2,92310|1,92310|5,92310|4) - 3 notes
01:32:626 (92626|4,92626|0,92626|2,92626|6,92942|6,92942|5,92942|1,92942|0,93257|4,93257|0,93257|2,93257|6) - 2 notes
I'll look through the difficulty and remove as many of the three note chords as I can that won't compromise the integrity of the flow of the map.

change all the rest of your 3 to 2,
and 4 or 5 to 3 and 2...

7K HD

SPOILER

same issue with 5K HD
max 4 note on special occasion,
change all 5 or 6 to 3 or 4
try to limit the max number to 4, and use 4 chord rarely for HD...
maybe 5 or 6 times across the whole song..

As with the 7K NM difficulty mod, I will look through the difficulty and reduce the number of notes in every chord that I am able to and will eliminate all six note chords present in the HD difficulty, and will reduce the total number of high note chords dramatically.

rew0825 wrote:

Finish

*removed code*

abraker wrote:

4K NM

I feel this part should be mirroring the pattern right after it due to the double beat
Move: 00:24:415 (24415|1) -> 00:23:468 (24415|0)
Move: 00:24:573 (24573|0) -> 00:23:468 (24573|1)


Just making unity between beat by mirroring
Move: 00:22:363 (22363|0) -> 00:22:363 (22363|1)
Move: 00:22:205 (22205|1) -> 00:22:205 (22205|0)
Move: 00:23:468 (23468|1) -> 00:23:468 (23468|3)
Move: 00:23:784 (23784|3) -> 00:23:784 (23784|1)

Move: 00:31:205 (31205|3) -> 00:31:205 (31205|2)
Move: 00:31:363 (31363|2) -> 00:31:363 (31363|3)


Ok, the hold notes have issues. I see no reason why there is a hold note here, no hold note to the next long note, and then 2 hold notes for the long tunes following the blank. These long notes alternate between high pitch, low, high, low, so put the hold note(s) to the right, left, right, left respectively. I might have gave the wrong timing for the second note, but I think you can figure it out.
Move: 00:43:047 (43047|0) -> 00:43:047 (43047|3)
Add: 00:48:573 (48573|0) to 00:50:626


Well if you are going to start a pattern, you better finish it right. The last note might not follow the note played, but I think that's fine.
Add: 01:22:205 (82205|1) -
Add: 01:22:205 (82205|2) -
Move: 01:22:205 (82205|3) -> 01:22:521 (82521|3)
Move: 01:22:363 (82363|3) -> 01:22:678 (82678|3)
Add: 01:22:836 (82836|3) -
Remove: 01:22:836 (82836|2) -
Remove: 01:22:836 (82836|1) -
Move: 01:20:152 (80152|3,80310|3,80468|3) -> 01:20:152 (80152|1,80310|1,80468|1)
Move: 01:19:678 (79678|1) -> 01:19:678 (79678|3)


Looks wierd
Move: 01:56:942 (116942|3) -> 01:56:942 (116942|1)

Why do I feel like there are too many drum notes on the right?
02:07:363 to 02:08:626

02:11:889 (131889|0,132310|2,132521|3) - Why are these notes snapped to 1/3??? They are not even onbeat. It should be:
02:12:731 (132731|1) -
02:12:889 (132889|2) -
02:13:047 (133047|3) -

4K HD

Suggestive pattern
move: 00:22:521 (22521|2) - to 00:22:521 (22521|3) -
move: 00:22:678 (22678|3) - to 00:22:678 (22678|2) -

Might be an unnecessary jack. Makes this map play smoother.
move: 00:24:100 (24100|1) - to 00:24:100 (24100|3) -

Another mod to make the map smoother.
move: 00:26:942 (26942|3) - to 00:26:942 (26942|0) -

Suggestive pattern
move: 00:35:468 (35468|1) - to 00:35:468 (35468|3) -
move: 00:35:626 (35626|2) - to 00:35:626 (35626|1) -
move: 00:35:784 (35784|3) - to 00:35:784 (35784|2) -
move: 00:36:021 (36021|0) - to 00:36:021 (36021|2) -
move: 00:36:100 (36100|1) - to 00:36:100 (36100|3) -
move: 00:36:257 (36257|3) - to 00:36:257 (36257|1) -
move: 00:36:415 (36415|1) - to 00:36:415 (36415|0) -
move: 00:36:573 (36573|0) - to 00:36:573 (36573|1) -

Another suggestive pattern to the drum roll
move: 00:39:573 (39573|2) - to 00:39:573 (39573|3) -
move: 00:39:652 (39652|3) - to 00:39:652 (39652|2) -
move: 00:39:731 (39731|0) - to 00:39:731 (39731|1) -
move: 00:39:810 (39810|1) - to 00:39:810 (39810|2) -
move: 00:39:889 (39889|2) - to 00:39:889 (39889|0) -
add: 00:39:968 (39968|1) -
add: 00:40:047 (40047|2) -
add: 00:40:126 (40126|1) -

I feel like these ladders have to go one way, then the other.
move: 00:58:205 (58205|2) - to 00:58:205 (58205|0) -
move: 00:58:205 (58205|3) - to 00:58:205 (58205|2) -
move: 00:58:363 (58363|1) - to 00:58:363 (58363|3) -
move: 00:58:521 (58521|2) - to 00:58:521 (58521|1) -
move: 00:58:678 (58678|1) - to 00:58:678 (58678|2) -
move: 00:58:757 (58757|2) - to 00:58:757 (58757|1) -
move: 00:58:915 (58915|1) - to 00:58:915 (58915|2) -
move: 00:58:994 (58994|2) - to 00:58:994 (58994|1) -

I don't know about this one though, up to you
move: 01:08:784 (68784|3) - to 01:08:784 (68784|1) -
move: 01:08:942 (68942|3) - to 01:08:942 (68942|2) -
move: 01:09:573 (69573|3,69731|3) - to 01:09:573 (69573|1,69731|1) -
move: 01:10:205 (70205|1,70521|1) - to 01:10:205 (70205|3,70521|3) -
move: 01:10:205 (70205|0) - to 01:10:205 (70205|2) -
add: 01:10:363 (70363|1) -
add: 01:10:363 (70363|3) -

The triple note before this one has a hole on the left side. Let's make this one has it on the right side.
move: 01:19:678 (79678|2) - to 01:19:678 (79678|0) -

I feel like rearranging this section into this kind of pattern make more sense. I think this pattern goes well with the type of sound primarily heard at this time.
move: 01:24:415 (84415|3) - to 01:24:415 (84415|0) -
move: 01:24:573 (84573|0) - to 01:24:573 (84573|3) -
move: 01:25:678 (85678|2) - to 01:25:678 (85678|0) -
move: 01:25:994 (85994|0) - to 01:25:994 (85994|3) -
move: 01:26:152 (86152|1) - to 01:26:152 (86152|2) -
move: 01:26:468 (86468|2) - to 01:26:468 (86468|3) -
move: 01:27:100 (87100|1) - to 01:27:100 (87100|2) -
move: 01:27:257 (87257|2,87415|3) - to 01:27:257 (87257|0,87415|1) -
move: 01:27:889 (87889|2) - to 01:27:889 (87889|3) -


I feel that having all those beats on one side is not right. Here is a nice pattern to try.
move: 01:32:310 (92310|1,92468|1,92626|1) - to 01:32:310 (92310|3,92468|3,92626|3) -
move: 01:32:310 (92310|0,92468|0,92626|0) - to 01:32:310 (92310|1,92468|1,92626|1) -
move: 01:32:784 (92784|1,92942|1) - to 01:32:784 (92784|2,92942|2) -
move: 01:33:100 (93100|3) - to 01:33:100 (93100|1) -
remove: 01:33:178 (93178|2) -
move: 01:33:257 (93257|1) - to 01:33:257 (93257|2) -

Suggestive pattern
move: 02:15:889 (135889|3) - to 02:15:889 (135889|0) -
move: 02:16:205 (136205|0) - to 02:16:205 (136205|3) -
move: 02:16:521 (136521|2,136836|3) - to 02:16:521 (136521|1,136836|2) -
move: 02:17:468 (137468|2) - to 02:17:468 (137468|3) -
move: 02:18:100 (138100|3) - to 02:18:100 (138100|2) -
move: 02:18:415 (138415|2) - to 02:18:415 (138415|0) -
move: 02:18:731 (138731|1) - to 02:18:731 (138731|2) -
move: 02:19:678 (139678|2) - to 02:19:678 (139678|3) -
move: 02:19:994 (139994|1) - to 02:19:994 (139994|0) -
move: 02:23:468 (143468|0) - to 02:23:468 (143468|2) -

That's all I have time for for now. I will go over the other diffs some other time.

EDIT: I went back to take a quick look at 4K NM it and lost track of changes. Here is the osu file. You can use this to compare the osu files, but not sure what to tell to change otherwise. I'll keep the above in case you reject the osu file.