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Probably just forgotten to edit the Wiki. Loctav seems unwilling to qualify two thirds of the participants after group stage.

When's the schedule coming up?
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Loctav

K i u i wrote:

Probably just forgotten to edit the Wiki. Loctav seems unwilling to qualify two thirds of the participants after group stage.

When's the schedule coming up?
Oh, we discussed that forth and back and forth and back. One point is that Group Stage is a huge effort, making it a bit of obsolete to host it when we keep majority of the participants.
On the other hand, we found that it was a bit unfair to only let the top 2 ascend, when we have two top seeded teams in each group. This results in frustration for majority of the participants, as they assume that they know already the ascenders of their group, anyways.

We came to the conclusion to consider the groupstage as true-seeding for the knock-out bracket. Even if majority of the group stage may ascend, the position your own group determines your starting position in the double elimination bracket. A raw-pp seeding is not the way to determine that.
Considering that, it seems also fine to kick 2 players per group and let 4 per group ascend, yet knowing that in the knock-out bracket, we will have a 1v4/2v3 setup, as Tasha suggested last year. So even if it is easy to ascend to the knock-outs per se, your position in the group determines the "supposed difficulty of your first knock out encounter".

Sorry for the huge confusion, I decided to go with doing a Round of 16, not cancelling it. Especially since we have evenly sized groups now (yey, 24 teams!), this is acceptable for me now.

Schedule will be released in a few minutes, I am rechecking all time slots now to avoid double-placements.
karterfreak
That was a pleasant surprise. Glad that RO16 is still on! Also using group stage as a prelim seeding is a great idea. Still not too fond of group stage with elimination, but I'll compensate for double elim + seeded brackets. :)
Kuro
/me sees "ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.)" in freemod bracket

/me dies because no DT... T_T

rip kuro
FlyingKiwi
How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
DarkStoorM

- Korean Kiwi - wrote:

How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
I believe it's Open Broadcaster Software from obsproject.com/
It's free, open source and completely awesome.
- Marco -

DarkStoorM wrote:

- Korean Kiwi - wrote:

How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
I believe it's Open Broadcaster Software from obsproject.com/
It's free, open source and completely awesome.
And also the tournament client ;)
Thelma

Kuro wrote:

/me sees "ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.)" in freemod bracket

/me dies because no DT... T_T

rip kuro
gimme your id and i will play it for you


jk
brunn08

marcostudios wrote:

And also the tournament client ;)
Where can I download Tournament client?
- Marco -

brunn08 wrote:

marcostudios wrote:

And also the tournament client ;)
Where can I download Tournament client?
It's not pubblic :(
OnosakiHito
Let me recall that you are still allowed to suggest maps for the upcoming mappools. Preferable your own maps.
Maps of all levels are needed for this and future TWCs and are prefered to be ranked (yet, it's not a must). Is your map unique or provides an interesting song? PM me!

Have a little insight of what we got so far:

Luna
gg wp China

/E: Also gg wp to Norway and Denmark, was fun =)
1794766
WP Ukraine and Germany today. Looking forward to our matches tomorrow, Denmark, Poland, China.
Nashmun
gg Italy, gg Canada ! It was closer than what the score shows and we had a lot of fun playing with you guys :D
Niko-nyan
karterfreak
Good games to everyone! (Especially France. Always a pleasure playing with you guys)

Hope to see you in the RO16!
nakanotsu nimi

Niko-nyan wrote:

gg Chile
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/14571285
well played, good luck!
Nashmun
Just a suggestion for match schedulers, I know this is hard to come up with a proper schedule with so many matches and you did a great job. But next time could you please let a bigger gap between the last match of the night for a team and its first match in the morning ? I mean we finished at midnight yesterday, and we have to play in an hour, which means we have less than 10h gap for sleeping and stuff. I'm awake but I look like a zombie
DarkStoorM
An after party with Germany
tiamus
Hell yeah!
I'll pay! But I'd like milk
Luna
This DarkStoorM fellow seems pretty cool 8-)
ggwp Ukraine and Poland, was really fun
Akiyama Mizuki
lol.
DarkStoorM

Luna wrote:

This DarkStoorM fellow seems pretty cool 8-)
ggwp Ukraine and Poland, was really fun

Also, thanks everyone. Group stage was a bit too hard for me, now I can't even imagine the RO16.
But I had fun, that matters the most. Well played everyone, and see you around next week!
Nwolf
Ro16 map pool looks so good


can I marry it
[TaikoTori]
This should be the mappool if i did not made any mistakes.
Have fun with it. If there are problems, just report them to me.

Good luck to every participant for the Round of 16! (:
OnosakiHito

Mappool Group Stage Information


The amount of times maps in GS stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.


2 EastNewSound - Lucid Dream (Natteke) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
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27 ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.) (mintong89) [Taiko Oni]
27 Nomizu Iori - Black + White (TV Size) (Makyu) [0gre's Oni]
21 cranky - R176 (taka1235) [Pangko]
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19 Ryu* - Mind Mapping (kors k mix) (Jerry) [m1ng's Oni]
16 Dj Mashiro - Prismatic Lollipops (victorica_db) [Kagami's Oni]
15 Basic Element - Touch You Right Now (Kiiwa) [Kana's Taiko Oni]
13 Hige Driver join. SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada (qoot8123) [Oni]
11 paraoka feat. yusuke - center piercing (sakuzyo bootleg) (RLC) [714's Taiko Oni]
11 sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Love's Inner Oni]
10 kors k feat.Yoshikawa Sunao - 7 Colors (sionKotori) [Naryuga's Taiko Oni]
10 Hashimoto Miyuki - Yume miru mama ni Koi wo shite (S i R i R u) [31's Taiko]
10 Riryka - Hashiru Sekai to Bokura no Mirai (short version) (Charlotte) [Oni]
10 senya - Yozakura ni Kimi o Kakushite (Dainesl) [Oni]
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9 Ellie Goulding - Burn (Nashmun) [Oni]
9 MuryokuP - Catastrophe (meiikyuu) [Haruka's Oni]
5 Nekomata Master+ - squall (wa_) [TK'S Oni]
5 ave;new feat. Sakura Saori - True My Heart (Suzuka Asahina) [Climbb's Taiko Oni]
4 Shihori - Day Breaker (Frostmourne) [Ono's Taiko Oni]

RO 16 Mappool can be found in the wiki!
Topic Starter
Loctav
Mappool and Schedule are on the wiki now! Mappack will be added (as soon as Marcin is done with bathing his astral body). Match results have been added. Link to Group Statistics has been added under LINKS section.
Nashmun
Well, hello Poland.

Can we have the full bracket though ?
Topic Starter
Loctav
Bracket is in the makings.
DarkStoorM
Dear France,

I'm not prepared, please be gentle.
Marcin
Dear timezones / earth

I wish earth was flat, and sun would evenly shine onto every place on earth at the same time,

Best regards,
everyone.

Nwolf
will Quarterfinals map showcase be right after Indonesia - South Korea match or a bit later?
Topic Starter
Loctav
Bracket is added
Earine
I'm a bit late but I'd like to thank you all for the wonderful experience I had.
Lots of fun, great and kind players, awesome staff!

Good luck to the people in the ro16!
DarkStoorM
Hmmm... I wonder if there could be some kind of a new category in the mappool like Extra, where you put one custom hard map, and to make it more fair - available only from semi-finals(?)

That probably makes no sense, but... hmmm.
Topic Starter
Loctav

DarkStoorM wrote:

Hmmm... I wonder if there could be some kind of a new category in the mappool like Extra, where you put one custom hard map, and to make it more fair - available only from semi-finals(?)

That probably makes no sense, but... hmmm.
Tbh I do not understand this request at all.
Niko-nyan

Nwolf wrote:

will Quarterfinals map showcase be right after Indonesia - South Korea match or a bit later?
woof :<
k hi bbj o3o
AlexGc96
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/86160&m=1

What the f-katsu, man
OnosakiHito

AlexGc96 wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/86160&m=1

What the f-katsu, man
We had that discussion in 2014. Back then I mainly used such maps since I didn't want people to play in their HD/HR confort zone. Those who demand of beeing HD/HR-Master(or even the TWC Masters) shall show it in the TWC by playing these very maps. And to be honest, I still have that opinion. But back then it was seen as too exeggerated and endagered the fun in the tournament, so we had a consens to have for next year (this year; 2015) a mix of low and high bpm maps in HR and HD, so players are able to choose. But it speaks for itself if a team avoids or bans these maps. Not that I want to expose anyone. That's why we will have a mix this year. But at the end, it's an world cup after all. People should show that they are the best. Beside that, it also gives a new tactical aspects which should make the TWC more interesting.


So yeah, for this year you can be sure that every upcoming higher-mappool will have at least one of these special maps in HR and HD. Question is just if I'm going to rise the number of maps which are like that. But in any case, there will be always a normal HD / HR pick. And don't forget that there is the NM bracket, too!
Akiyama Mizuki

Niko-nyan wrote:

Nwolf wrote:

will Quarterfinals map showcase be right after Indonesia - South Korea match or a bit later?
woof :<
k hi bbj o3o
Let's have fun ㅇㅅㅇ
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