1. Atsuro's Normal (2.39 stars, 175 notes)
2. Hard (3.41 stars, 231 notes)
3. Insane (4.33 stars, 299 notes)
4. toybot's Insane (4.66 stars, 324 notes)

Cherry Blossom wrote:

boobs D:

Atsuro wrote:

Puedo hacer el normal?
Tenemos el mismo post count :V

FrozenSakura wrote:

m4m from your modding queue

Insane

00:00:973 (1,2,3,4) - put these on the 1/4 divisor. 1/6 isn't right This part is "off-tempo", making it difficult to map. Notes are snapped to 1/6 'cause that's what fits in the most.
00:09:430 (4) - move the slider end to also point at these 00:09:430 (4) - also I'm forming a triangle using 00:09:111 (2,3) - and 00:08:792 (1,4) - slider ends.
00:10:388 (2) - Ctrl+g Inverted flow pattern planned here + jump.
00:10:707 (3) - ^ ^^
00:14:856 (5,6) - ^ Pattern here's fine as it is IMO.
00:15:653 (3,4) - ^ ^^
(^ For better flow)
00:22:356 (3) - Slider end should be pointing at 00:22:994 (5) - Right. Fixed.
00:28:260 (5) - Make this into half note slider so it can get the piano note maybe? Moved 00:28:579 (6) - to 00:28:420 - instead. Thanks for the observation.
00:28:579 (6) - delete overmapped No overmapping here. I'm mapping the piano and the vocal end at the same time, which is actually good.
01:07:196 (4) - ctrl+g I like the way it flows in right now.
01:07:196 (4) - ^ Next time, check your slider copy-paste.

Hard

00:00:973 (1,2,3) - same thing as insane Same thing I said in Insane.
00:28:579 (7) - ^ Same thing I did on Insane.
00:28:420 - add note here instead ^^
00:14:537 (3) - ctrl+g maybe? No intention to make a jump here.
00:42:941 (4) - ^ ^^
00:43:739 (2) - ^ Jump intended here, and flows in quite well.

Normal and Easy
Looks good. Prob because I suck at modding them xd
Good mapset. Hope it get ranked ^^
And sry for my crappy mod q-q

1. I would keep the green points at the spinner consistent, because I've noticed that the only difficulty that has them is the Normal. Either get rid of the points on Normal or add them on the other diffs, otherwise it will be inconsistent across all difficulties because there isn't any real reason why they're different.
2. 01:27:462 (1) - Move the end of this slider 1/2 back, because that's when the sound properly ends. Having it on the white tick sounds out of place and odd since there isn't any sound. Having sliders end on a white tick for the reason "white ticks are stronger" when there isn't any sound is pointless imo, because when there isn't any sound, there isn't any beat either.

1. 00:10:388 (2) - I suggest adding a clap for two reasons; first of all this beat is fairly strong, not having it emphasised with a strong hit sound will make it sound odd and out of place, and secondly; it will go well with the clap you've had at 00:08:792 (1) - , since claps naturally sound really nice on beats 2 and 4.
2. 00:17:728 (4,5,6) - Curve (4,5) a bit more so that (5) has a nice double blanket with (6). In patterns like this, both ends must be blanketed perfectly, otherwise it will look odd.
3. 00:48:367 (3,1) - This is a bit boring, you could at least angle (1) a bit, having it just standing straight looks very boring
4. 00:53:473 (1) - This lands on a very strong downbeat, so it would make more sense to add a powerful hitsound here, like a clap or finish. Leaving it with the weak blank hitsound will make it sound unfitting with the music, and is a waste of potential.

1. 00:16:930 (2,3,4,5) - Not a fan of the flow here, feels a bit jagged and rough since the slider has to move from the slider up to (3), in order to complete the triangle pattern, I would change it to something where the cursor doesn't have to make such a hard turn in order to hit the note. If you decide to keep this flow though, then at least make it an equilateral triangle, because that would look nicer.
2. 00:29:218 (1,2,3) - It would be a lot easier for players to stay on beat here if you merge (1,2) into a slider. This is because with a slider, you don't have to actually press the sound on the red tick, it does that for you, and because the last hitsound was on a red tick, it will be a lot easier for the player to hit the next note, because that's on a red tick as well.
3. 01:23:792 (6,1,2) - There are two things wrong with this pattern. Firstly, the blanket is off by quite a bit, please fix this by making sure the approach circle (s) are parallel to to edge of (6)'s slider track. Secondly, (2) should be a straight slider in order to create a symmetrical, nicer looking pattern.

1. 00:10:388 (2,3,4) - I'd improve this pattern by turning it into a nicer looking equilateral triangle, where all three sides are of equal length and angle. Otherwise it will look odd and out of place.
2. 01:02:728 (2,3,4) - Like the above suggestion, it will look a lot nicer if this triangle was equilateral.
3. 01:09:750 (4,2) - Although it seems minor, I'm not fond of overlaps like these because they make the map look untidy and cramped, so I suggest fixing it.

1. 00:07:196 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - It would look more interesting if this triangle was rotated a bit, right now it looks pretty boring just standing there straight. Be creative!
2. 01:04:643 (4,2) - Since these sliders are perfectly stacked on top of each other it can be very confusing to read, as it is unclear as to where they go. I would unstack them, or at least make them overlap so you can see part of the slider trail.

[ Faded ] wrote:

Hi, from the Faded Modding Queue~

[General]

1. I would keep the green points at the spinner consistent, because I've noticed that the only difficulty that has them is the Normal. Either get rid of the points on Normal or add them on the other diffs, otherwise it will be inconsistent across all difficulties because there isn't any real reason why they're different. I don't really see the problem, the reason is that i like it better unmuted so i did that to follow the fade in the music. Will change if Lixrei agrees with you but i would like to keep it
   
   
   [Normal]
   
   1. 00:16:930 (2,3,4,5) - Not a fan of the flow here, feels a bit jagged and rough since the slider has to move from the slider up to (3), in order to complete the triangle pattern, I would change it to something where the cursor doesn't have to make such a hard turn in order to hit the note. If you decide to keep this flow though, then at least make it an equilateral triangle, because that would look nicer. Made the slider point to 3, moved some stuff to (hopefully) improve flow
   2. 00:29:218 (1,2,3) - It would be a lot easier for players to stay on beat here if you merge (1,2) into a slider. This is because with a slider, you don't have to actually press the sound on the red tick, it does that for you, and because the last hitsound was on a red tick, it will be a lot easier for the player to hit the next note, because that's on a red tick as well.It was a slider originally, i did it like that to add variety, some challenge and because i think it fits
   3. 01:23:792 (6,1,2) - There are two things wrong with this pattern. Firstly, the blanket is off by quite a bit, please fix this by making sure the approach circle (s) are parallel to to edge of (6)'s slider track. Secondly, (2) should be a straight slider in order to create a symmetrical, nicer looking pattern. Improved blanket, 2 was supposed to be straight lol, fixed that too

Good luck![/b]

[ Faded ] wrote:

Hi, from the Faded Modding Queue~

[General]

1. I would keep the green points at the spinner consistent, because I've noticed that the only difficulty that has them is the Normal. Either get rid of the points on Normal or add them on the other diffs, otherwise it will be inconsistent across all difficulties because there isn't any real reason why they're different. Green sections removed at Normal after talking with Atsuro.
2. 01:27:462 (1) - Move the end of this slider 1/2 back, because that's when the sound properly ends. Having it on the white tick sounds out of place and odd since there isn't any sound. Having sliders end on a white tick for the reason "white ticks are stronger" when there isn't any sound is pointless imo, because when there isn't any sound, there isn't any beat either. Changed.

[Hard]

1. 00:10:388 (2,3,4) - I'd improve this pattern by turning it into a nicer looking equilateral triangle, where all three sides are of equal length and angle. Otherwise it will look odd and out of place. Changed.
2. 01:02:728 (2,3,4) - Like the above suggestion, it will look a lot nicer if this triangle was equilateral. If this triangle was made equilateral, it would ruin flow a bit. Also, the triangle I'm making here is 01:03:047 (3,4,1) - instead.
3. 01:09:750 (4,2) - Although it seems minor, I'm not fond of overlaps like these because they make the map look untidy and cramped, so I suggest fixing it. Holy crap, how did this happened? Fixed overlap.

[Insane]

1. 00:07:196 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - It would look more interesting if this triangle was rotated a bit, right now it looks pretty boring just standing there straight. Be creative! Rotated it, but I don't know what to do with it for now...
2. 01:04:643 (4,2) - Since these sliders are perfectly stacked on top of each other it can be very confusing to read, as it is unclear as to where they go. I would unstack them, or at least make them overlap so you can see part of the slider trail. Changed by moving (2)'s start.

Pretty nice beatmap, not much to say about it really.

Good luck!

[ Faded ] wrote:

Hi, from the Faded Modding Queue~

[General]

1. I would keep the green points at the spinner consistent, because I've noticed that the only difficulty that has them is the Normal. Either get rid of the points on Normal or add them on the other diffs, otherwise it will be inconsistent across all difficulties because there isn't any real reason why they're different.
2. 01:27:462 (1) - Move the end of this slider 1/2 back, because that's when the sound properly ends. Having it on the white tick sounds out of place and odd since there isn't any sound. Having sliders end on a white tick for the reason "white ticks are stronger" when there isn't any sound is pointless imo, because when there isn't any sound, there isn't any beat either.

[Easy]
In this difficulty, I've noticed that the rhythm often goes from a white tick to a red tick, or vice versa. I wouldn't recommend this, especially for an easy, because the red tick can throw players offbeat, meaning that the player won't know where the next note is on the timeline. I recommend fixing up your patterns so that the majority of objects land on white ticks, and avoid red ticks unless the music absolutely calls for it. This is an easy, so it should be mapped to the beat, not vocals. Have tried to avoid a lot using repeats

1. 00:10:388 (2) - I suggest adding a clap for two reasons; first of all this beat is fairly strong, not having it emphasised with a strong hit sound will make it sound odd and out of place, and secondly; it will go well with the clap you've had at 00:08:792 (1) - , since claps naturally sound really nice on beats 2 and 4. Yep
2. 00:17:728 (4,5,6) - Curve (4,5) a bit more so that (5) has a nice double blanket with (6). In patterns like this, both ends must be blanketed perfectly, otherwise it will look odd. Yup
3. 00:48:367 (3,1) - This is a bit boring, you could at least angle (1) a bit, having it just standing straight looks very boring Done
4. 00:53:473 (1) - This lands on a very strong downbeat, so it would make more sense to add a powerful hitsound here, like a clap or finish. Leaving it with the weak blank hitsound will make it sound unfitting with the music, and is a waste of potential. Added a finish

This diff handles hitsounds and aesthetics quite well, but personally the rhythm needs a lot of work. Remember; red ticks should not be used for easies in relatively high bpm maps like this. I still used red ticks often but only when there are no other alternatives

handsome wrote:

Atsuro's Normal

1. very nice difficulty, please revive jojo op ;_; Thanks! And i really want to revive it, but it needs a lot of work and some remapping :/
2. 00:29:218 (1,2,3) - staggered circle spacing is very hard to acc. even if you use ds, it can be confusing. i suggest 00:29:696 (2,3) - into sldier. Ok, changed
3. 01:27:462 (1) - star spinner consistent with hard/insane. Fixed!

handsome wrote:

m4m

General

1. strongly dislike the rhythm you used in your diffs (I/H), you don't have to use repeats that often.. I know that, but I like using reverses (I don't even know why... *sigh*)

Insane

1. 00:06:718 (3) - neaten this, make sure both 'sections' are parallel Done.
2. 00:11:345 (1,2) - this two too, also when the two red points are too close together they look really bad, imo. same goes for the rest of these kind of sliders Will check every slider. :p
3. 00:15:653 (3,4) - lol ctrl+G? circular flow :p I think the jump here is funny. :p
4. 00:17:568 (5,1,2) - reverse of 2 breaks flow here, try ctrl+j I think this is good enough, since flow aims at (4), then players see (5) coming and then there's a small jump to (1). (2) can be seen if players are "really" paying attention to play. So, no change.
5. 00:33:686 (5) - you can nc for easier reading imo It didn't came into my mind... Okay.
6. 00:35:601 (1,2) - this feels very filler-pattern, there's no correlation between music and pattern (no vocals to follow, single repeats are odd-numbered, drums are even-numbered, so yeah, bad stuff) so it plays kinda weird. plus spacing is large, can be mistaken for 1/1. i suggest changing second reverse to 3 circles. What I was trying to follow here is the guitar, and since it comes in with some kind of "repeating" rhythm I used the reverses. Spacing is long to keep symmetry of sliders, and Insane players can easily stead themselves to jump here. Through I won't change this for now, I may change it if more modders mention it.
7. 00:43:260 (1,2) - this is better usage of 'paired' patterns, good job Through I still don't fully understand them, I'm trying...
8. 00:47:409 (2,3) - and this is weird too, moreso because the flow is even worse from 1 to 2. also you can hear the drums, they and nicely on 2's head, but are on the repeat of 3. Tried to make something else here.
9. 00:56:664 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is just lazy and lame. its a nice pattern sure but the rhythm here is just, off. they're just... 1/2 sliders. i would understand if the vocals were actually 1/2 spam :p here's what i got http://i.imgur.com/gprfp5V.png i understand your intentions with white tick sliders being much better to play but this isn't the way to do it, imo. same for the rest of the chorus. sorry if this comes of harsh but i feel pretty strongly about this. On Kiai, what I do is map mostly to the beats, since they're practically 1/2 almost all the way (I use 1/1 when that isn't the case/when I want to follow a relatively strong vocal). Vocals are also 1/2 beat on several places like 00:57:303 (1,2,3,4) - , 00:58:898 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - and 01:09:111 (2,3,4) - (the most notorious ones). I'm really thinking hard if I should change this or not, but I need more opinions first.
10. 01:26:186 (3) - slider to 01:26:664 - Done.

Hard

1. this is a very hit and miss difficulty in regards to rhythm. mainly due to the fact that the note density is far too high, for a hard, in my opinion. suffers same issues in chorus as insane As for note density, that's true; I'm blaming my lack of experience here. As for chorus, is the same thing as Insane; I need to think seriously about it.
2. 00:03:686 - you're not following the drums nor the guitar, it just filler 1/2 spam. guitar + drum sound is even missed here: 00:04:643 -, on a sliderend. i really suggest reworking this I rearranged lots of notes right now. I think it's better since I started to emphatize guitar a bit more, but it's time to wait and see.
3. 00:08:473 (1) - passive downbeat on the repeat, try to use a click on the downbeat rather than a repeat. also a very weird drop in density after 00:07:196 (3,4,1,2,3) - As for the downbeat, I know it's better if it's clickeable; but right now I'm focusing on prolonging guitar. Reverse makes the rhythm a bit less ankward and gives slider a bit more of "power". As for note density, it has been reduced on previous parts so I think change is less weird.
4. 00:12:781 - same with passive downbeat, use a clickable object. Rhythm of 00:12:303 (1) - is 3/4, which would made ankward clicking it. The result will be many players with 100s and 50s.
5. 00:30:813 (1,2) - i think its fine to use triple. I need more opinions in this, but a triplet won't fit this part.
6. 00:52:516 (2,3,4,5,1) - this pattern omg, it is really too hard to read. if i were you i'd just delete 00:52:196 (1,2,3,4) - Yeah... this is done. @_@
7. 01:26:186 (3) - same as insane Done.

could use more work, good luck.

handsome wrote:

m4m

Kin's Easy

1. keep nc pattern consistent throughout, Done
2. 00:03:686 (1,2) - this will be confusing for new player. i suggest ctrl+g 1 and changing the pattern. starting at the corner is weird too. i don't see any issues with it
   
3. 00:17:170 - large gap here, too large, weird to play. i think it is fine to use http://i.imgur.com/jqLf7iv.png Fixed
4. diff is generally very off and probably needs a remap. it is definitely a good start though. don't be offended lol. try to keep a few things in mind, never have odd rhythm spacing such as 3/2 or 5/2, switching polarity is bad for easier difficulties. don't you think it is easier to paly when the beats are spaced evenly apart consistently? like 1/1 all the time :-) i know you are a new mapper, so good luck! Sometimes the polarity had to change, I have avoided using red ticks now but there are places where they still exist or it wouldnt fit the music

could use more work, good luck.

[Ranger] wrote:

[Kin`s Easy]

◆ 00:16:452 (2) - turn this slider a little, well.....5 degree like this Left as is for now
◆ 00:26:345 (3) - move to 00:26:186 , it`s much better the music I was trying to stay on a white tick while mapping the piano sound
◆ 00:50:920 (2) - ^^30 degree like this Why?
◆ 00:53:473 (1) - add finish here, it`s should be good to me Done
◆ 01:03:367 (1) - ^ at the end Done
◆ 01:25:547 (2,3,4) - how about make just triangle? just suggestion I made an isosceles triangle as an equilateral is a bit hard to read for begginers

[Ranger] wrote:

[Hard]

◆ 00:19:962 (4) - remove that and put the only circle, it sounds be better to me I follow the beat and the cymbal here, so no change for now.
◆ 00:28:420 (7) - move to 00:28:579 and drop the 00:28:260 (6) ex I can't ignore the strong piano sound, now. o.o Also, that's what I had first, but then someone said "better change it"; and honestly, I like it like this.
◆ 00:41:664 (5) - move to up a little, it looks better i think ex I like the triangle + jump here.
◆ 00:51:398 (3,4,5) - how about change the slider? just suggestion I think it's okay to use triplet here, since next element's a slider.
◆ 00:52:835 ~ 00:53:393 - add circle 00:52:835 and remove the slider and substitute one circle Will keep as it is for now.
◆ 01:25:228 (3) - same reason the upper, i don`t like that Then again, same as above.

[Insane]

◆ 00:21:079 (3) - it looks not good i think, how about make different? I want some kind of emphasis at the end, since guitar sound makes some kind of "going down" sound (that's how I understood it ), and a "distorted" slider is good for that.
◆ 00:25:707 (5) - hmm...make like this Sound of reverse is off-beat, so it sounds ankward. No change.
◆ 00:41:824 - add circle here? Pause here is to create suspense Plus, that sounds a bit ankward when mapped.
◆ 01:03:047 ~ 01:03:367 - how about make stream here? it sounds good to me I think it would be kinda some overmap here. ;w;
◆ 01:17:409 (1) - remove NC, it didn`t need it i think You're right. At first I thought it would be a nice idea, but I think it's okay if not marked as NC.


Good luck for Rank!
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Zero__wind wrote:

just saying that you can't put so many notes before the first uninherited point
the offset should be set -143 instead of the current

[Ranger] wrote:

lol, my modding was not useful
sorry that

[Ranger] wrote:

[Atsuro's Normal]

◆ 00:20:122 (3,4,5,6) - it`s too hard maybe...how about remove 00:20:122 (3) ? Nope, i believe in Normal players! (it's not that hard imho :/)
◆ 00:24:111 (1) - press up the end dot, make similar 00:23:154 (4) I think it's fine already, it blankets 00:23:154 (4) as intended
◆ 00:31:451 (5) - move to 00:31:292 , it mix music better Nice catch . Made it a 1/2 slider
◆ 00:52:834 (2) - some strange the beat,fix it It's for the vocals
◆ 01:25:228 (3) - same reason ^^^^ I don't really get your point :/



Good luck for Rank!
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