2015-01-09 09:31 Andrea: btw you should check this again since I reworked it a bit :3
2015-01-09 09:31 Andrea: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/585605 petit milady - Ma Cherie [Lovers]]
2015-01-09 09:31 Gero: omg yes
2015-01-09 09:31 Andrea: I'll spec you o3o
2015-01-09 09:31 Gero: let me redownload it , wait <3
2015-01-09 09:31 Andrea: yup :3
2015-01-09 09:32 Gero: updated 
2015-01-09 09:32 Gero: o3o
2015-01-09 09:32 Andrea: yay :D
2015-01-09 09:33 Gero: nice custom name
2015-01-09 09:33 Gero: it fits with me xD 
2015-01-09 09:33 Gero: okno
2015-01-09 09:33 Andrea: haha <3
2015-01-09 09:37 Gero: too moe for my eyes
2015-01-09 09:37 Andrea: >w<
2015-01-09 09:39 Andrea: this song is too awesome <3
2015-01-09 09:40 Gero: let me check
2015-01-09 09:41 Andrea: it's a lot streamy, weird from me ;A;
2015-01-09 09:41 Gero: isn't weird o3o I like it a lot
2015-01-09 09:42 Andrea: I'm glad you like it <3
2015-01-09 09:42 Gero: sb pls
2015-01-09 09:44 Andrea: it's 6 mins long though xD
2015-01-09 09:44 Gero: like tamame map? xD
2015-01-09 09:44 Gero: 04:53:560 (1) - ugly slider remap pls 
2015-01-09 09:44 Gero: kudos pls 
2015-01-09 09:45 Gero: jk
2015-01-09 09:45 Andrea: omg
2015-01-09 09:45 Andrea: how did I miss that
2015-01-09 09:45 Gero: cause you're baka 
2015-01-09 09:46 Gero: 05:24:860 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -  isn't symmetrical, that makes me sad </3
2015-01-09 09:46 Andrea: fixed it orz x.x
2015-01-09 09:47 Andrea: I should make that jump better
2015-01-09 09:47 Andrea: let me fix xD
2015-01-09 09:51 Andrea: okay done o3o
2015-01-09 09:52 Gero: 00:29:260 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -  Just a nazi thing but what do you think to make a better jump at this part 00:29:660 - since that blanket seems quite awful at the least for me anyways if you fix this you should remake the next pattern. (Example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2486167)
2015-01-09 09:52 Gero: you're a free to ignore that since is a nazi thing =3=
2015-01-09 09:52 Andrea: let me see what can I do :3
2015-01-09 09:57 Gero: 00:44:860 (9,1,2) -  maybe it's just me but the flow here is a bit forcing what about to try something different here instead? maybe this (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2486199 // http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2486209)  
2015-01-09 09:58 Gero: links orz ( http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2486199 // http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2486209 )  
2015-01-09 09:58 Gero: QAQ
2015-01-09 09:59 Andrea: hmm yeah I agree
2015-01-09 09:59 Gero: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2486199 here 
2015-01-09 10:00 Gero: it's just a example yeah =3=
2015-01-09 10:00 Andrea: that's amazing yes <3
2015-01-09 10:00 Gero: yay <3
2015-01-09 10:01 Gero: 00:56:460 (6,1) - can you stack both circles properly? 
2015-01-09 10:03 Andrea: fixed :3
2015-01-09 10:03 Andrea: I'm doing the same on next parts as well for everything btw
2015-01-09 10:03 Gero: sure 
2015-01-09 10:04 Gero: 01:11:460 (3,4,5,1) -  sorry for being annoying about the flow but here is like nope, I think it would flow better by this way https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2486263
2015-01-09 10:05 Andrea: not annoying, I was unsure about that pattern as well xD
2015-01-09 10:05 Gero: 01:14:760 (5,6) -  fix that blanket TwT
2015-01-09 10:05 Gero: 01:24:860 (5,1) - ^
2015-01-09 10:08 Andrea: kinda hard to fix 2nd one xD
2015-01-09 10:08 Andrea: let me try
2015-01-09 10:08 Gero: 02:52:760 (5,7,9) -  claps? sounds better imo 
2015-01-09 10:08 Andrea: nvm I could
2015-01-09 10:08 Gero: keep it if you want xD
2015-01-09 10:11 Gero: 03:08:660 (5,6,7) - I didn't notice it when I test that but the spacing here is a bit inconsistent and to be honest a jump here is random since there aren't any change at the music.
2015-01-09 10:11 Gero: ah nvm you did the same thing 03:10:460 (8,9,10,1) -  here xD
2015-01-09 10:12 Andrea: yeah every new stack I gave emphasis with the whistles :3
2015-01-09 10:12 Andrea: fixed the rest though o3o
2015-01-09 10:15 Gero: 03:56:260 (3) -  Ctrl + G maybe? you did the same thing here 03:58:260 (4) - or this is intentional? o3o
2015-01-09 10:16 Andrea: yeah I wanted to make them different somehow xD
2015-01-09 10:18 Gero: 04:31:060 (2) - yeah overmapped, the sound is from here 04:30:960 -  and 04:31:160 -  here imo so a quick solution would be moving 2 to the previous tick and stack it on 1, I guess
2015-01-09 10:19 Gero: http://puu.sh/ehHBP/ffae25d8d1.jpg like this =3=
2015-01-09 10:22 Gero: 05:14:461 (4,5) -  blanket pls 
2015-01-09 10:22 Gero: that's all for me o3o
2015-01-09 10:23 Andrea: almost finished fixing <3
2015-01-09 10:25 Andrea: that was really really helpful =w=
2015-01-09 10:25 Gero: not really ;w;
2015-01-09 10:33 Andrea: updated btw, recheck it if I did everything properly when you can please xD
2015-01-09 10:34 Andrea: post so I can kd you <3

15:15 Inyuschan: sure, you can irc now then?
15:15 Andrea: sure owo
15:15 Inyuschan: let's see
15:16 Inyuschan: why that diff name?
15:16 Inyuschan: idk what is the song about
15:16 Inyuschan: lel
15:16 Andrea: ma cherie means my darling
15:16 Andrea: it's french :P
15:17 Inyuschan: okay so maybe it fits well
15:17 Inyuschan: xD
15:21 Inyuschan: 00:45:160 - Hm... I might miss a triplet here
15:21 Inyuschan: :x
15:22 Andrea: I don't really hear any sound here @.@
15:22 Andrea: it's the guitar sound maybe, but it won't fit as note imo
15:22 Andrea: 00:38:460 (1) - same here for example
15:23 Inyuschan: 00:38:460 (1) - it's not exactly the same because the red tick is less audible, so is less important clicking it
15:23 Inyuschan: but meh, if you say so
15:23 Inyuschan: is not a problem but it would fit for me xD
15:24 Andrea: mostly because my patterns would be inconsistent if I do that ;w;
15:24 Andrea: since every lyric phrases there's always that kind of guitar sound
15:24 Inyuschan: yeah I can understand
15:24 Inyuschan: okay xD
15:24 Andrea: 00:32:060 (1) - same on this slider repeat
15:26 Inyuschan: 00:56:060 (5,6) - I feel like this stack is a bit uncomfortable if you ask me... Moving it to x:296 y:208 (more or less) would look better and it also makes a triangle pattern with 00:57:260 (1,2) - 
15:26 Inyuschan: keeping this stack 00:56:060 (5,1) - is fine though
15:27 Inyuschan: though I doubt it because the different spacing ww idk
15:28 Inyuschan: http://puu.sh/eycsV/f4c19ec3d0.jpg or this
15:28 Inyuschan: just a little suggestion tho =w=
15:28 Andrea: fixed it in a similiar way =3=
15:28 Inyuschan: okay~
15:29 Inyuschan: 01:00:060 (4,5) - uh, this flows a bit weird imo
15:30 Inyuschan: http://puu.sh/eycGf/2f1fa40a21.jpg maybe something like this
15:31 Andrea: seems reasonable, changed~
15:32 Inyuschan: just a comment, 01:00:860 (1,2,3) - you've been using this rhythm sometimes, which I don't agree with at all, because the stanza needs to be clicked for me
15:32 Inyuschan: and looks weird starting NC so early xD I'd consider this for future maps (?
15:32 Andrea: well the kiai is full of doubles, without sliders it would be too empty otherwise orz
15:33 Inyuschan: yeah I can understand x)
15:33 Andrea: aaaand my comboing is weird, already know that :D
15:33 Andrea: I'm always following the new stanzas
15:34 Inyuschan: it's fine
15:34 Inyuschan: 01:11:460 (3,4) - hm, you might did this for the jump, but I don't like how it's flowing; this looks better for me http://puu.sh/eydh9/73d205172d.jpg
15:35 Inyuschan: but if you want to keep the jump, it's ok
15:35 Inyuschan: 01:16:460 (3,5) - what about making them symmetrical xD
15:35 Andrea: yeah I wanted to make a different kind of flow here
15:36 Andrea: huh they aren't? D: I'll try to stack it better
15:36 Inyuschan: wait
15:36 Inyuschan: 01:16:460 (3) - y:108
15:36 Inyuschan: 01:16:860 (5) - y:109
15:36 Inyuschan: lel
15:36 Andrea: should be better
15:36 Andrea: yup fixed lol
15:36 Inyuschan: kinda nazi but I noticed
15:36 Inyuschan: xDDD
15:37 Inyuschan: 01:19:660 (4,5,6,1) - you're obsessed with squares
15:37 Inyuschan: (?)
15:37 Andrea: how did you even notice it lol
15:37 Andrea: squares are awesome :D
15:37 Inyuschan: yeah I know xD idk, but I noticed it but simple view LOL
15:38 Andrea: next part btw is structured really similiar to the other
15:38 Inyuschan: okay, what is coming looks like it's a copypaste of the beginning xD so everything I said should be applied again I think
15:38 Andrea: and I've already applied the same fixes
15:38 Andrea: I readed you faster :P
15:38 Inyuschan: lel
15:38 Inyuschan: don't read my mind
15:39 Andrea: I changed most spacings, just used same kind of patterns yeah
15:39 Andrea: xD
15:39 Inyuschan: okay xD
15:39 Inyuschan: 02:55:060 (6,1) - since you can't add NC in stanza these ones should be swapped o3o
15:40 Andrea: 02:54:460 (5) - actually I should NC this
15:40 Andrea: HOW DID I FAIL
15:40 Andrea: fixed it ;w;
15:40 Inyuschan: it happens sometimes xD
15:41 Andrea: fixed it now :3
15:41 Inyuschan: yeah, I'm still checking o3o
15:41 Inyuschan: go go we're almost finishing (?
15:41 Inyuschan: 03:58:660 (5) - hm, after here, don't you feel like there should be a spinner? o3o
15:42 Inyuschan: finishing here 04:01:660 (with 5% volume at the end)
15:42 Inyuschan: ok my fault lel
15:42 Inyuschan: if you don't consider it necessary there I'll understand
15:43 Andrea: yup I leaved it empty to give the musical "effect"
15:43 Andrea: I'm not sure how to explain it xD
15:43 Andrea: but I guess you got it o3o
15:43 Inyuschan: ah yeah
15:43 Inyuschan: got it
15:43 Inyuschan: np
15:44 Inyuschan: 04:02:060 (1) - I know you have your hitsounds consistency buuuut... basically this part feels empty sometimes without whistles
15:44 Inyuschan: well let's test
15:44 Andrea: I follow piano on this part
15:44 Inyuschan: just in case it would sound bad
15:44 Inyuschan: oh o3o
15:44 Inyuschan: true
15:44 Andrea: if you hear every piano sound there's a whistle
15:44 Inyuschan: yeah yeah
15:44 Inyuschan: sry
15:44 Andrea: 04:30:060 (5) - until here :3
15:45 Andrea: following vocal would've been weird I think xD
15:45 Andrea: since it's really calm
15:45 Andrea: no need to be sorry baka =w=
15:45 Andrea: actually, do you think spacing is too low maybe?
15:45 Inyuschan: yeah maybe, but this hitsounds sound a bit annoying if you don't add nothing xD but are good :>
15:46 Inyuschan: well
15:46 Inyuschan: people that likes to play hard maps
15:46 Inyuschan: would say yes
15:46 Andrea: I'll increase it a bit more
15:46 Andrea: same patterns, just a bit more spacing for that part
15:46 Inyuschan: I don't consider it necessary but up to you :3
15:46 Inyuschan: since it's an Insane (not Extra, like some approval maps), should be fine
15:46 Andrea: just from 1.2x to 1.3x
15:47 Inyuschan: nice o3o
15:48 Inyuschan: 05:08:660 (6) - Ctrl+J here?
15:48 Inyuschan: flows better with the next note
15:48 Inyuschan: (same place ofc)
15:48 Andrea: gonna check once I fixed the spacing :3
15:48 Inyuschan: ah, okay
15:48 Inyuschan: then I'll wait
15:48 Andrea: almost done anyway x)
15:48 Inyuschan: okay :3
15:51 Inyuschan: btw, once you update, mod my map *runs*
15:52 Andrea: yep I will =w=
15:52 Inyuschan: o3o~
15:52 Andrea: fixed that suggestion btw, nice catch
15:53 Inyuschan: okay, can I continue? owo
15:55 Andrea: sure =w=
15:55 Inyuschan: okay
15:56 Inyuschan: 05:50:660 (4) - what about this? http://puu.sh/eyfHV/1ac296d8ca.jpg for a better flow imo o3o
15:58 Andrea: fixed~
15:59 Andrea: 05:47:260 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - blanket master btw :D
15:59 Inyuschan: yeah xD
16:00 Inyuschan: okay
16:00 Inyuschan: that's all for me
16:00 Inyuschan: update please :3

20:05 Andrea: your post was unexpected xD
20:05 Andrea: Inyus is about to give 2nd bubble now o.o/
20:05 Andrea: we can irc if you want :D
20:06 -Bakari-: Oh, cool 
20:06 -Bakari-: \w/
20:06 Andrea: my map is irc mod only
20:06 Andrea: lol
20:07 Andrea: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3718613 hype \w/
20:07 -Bakari-: Okay, cool
20:07 -Bakari-: let me re-dl the map :3
20:08 Andrea: okay >.</
20:09 -Bakari-: let's start with a simple metadata check :3
20:09 Andrea: hopefully it's all good!
20:11 -Bakari-: Yep, it's all good to go 
20:11 -Bakari-: [http://petitmilady.com/disco/disco11.html 1] / [http://www.universal-music.co.jp/petit-milady/products/poce-1404/ 2] 
20:12 Andrea: awesome! I actually used 2nd site :D
20:13 -Bakari-: I believe there is a tag missing 
20:13 -Bakari-: osuplayer111 
20:14 Andrea: oh my god you're right
20:14 Andrea: how did I miss that
20:15 Andrea: fixed it :3
20:17 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/eyi45.png 
20:17 -Bakari-: AiBat and AiMod don't mention anything serious either 
20:17 Andrea: great \o/
20:17 Andrea: I'm safe from Tic xD
20:18 -Bakari-: No any weird stuff like hitsound-delays 
20:18 -Bakari-: So, we are also safe from that point 
20:19 Andrea: glad to hear that :D
20:19 -Bakari-: let me do a little testplay :)
20:20 Andrea: sure thing :3
20:23 -Bakari-: either my ears are fooling me, or I hear nothing at 00:17:060 (7,10) -  
20:24 Andrea: if you wonder about the whole map structure, I've followed drums
20:24 Andrea: because most of it is like that xD
20:24 Andrea: at least on the intense parts
20:25 -Bakari-: Okay then, I guess we can let it be as it is
20:25 Andrea: hope it's okay!
20:26 -Bakari-: 00:27:660 (1,2,3) - can we make 1/2 a little more distinguishable from 1/4? A little (x1.4-x1.6) jump would make it way more readable 
20:26 Andrea: okay gonna fix that
20:27 Andrea: I hope 1.1x could be enough
20:28 -Bakari-: Let's try 1.2x, this will be obvious 
20:28 Andrea: alright let's go for 1.2x then
20:29 Andrea: fixed it
20:32 -Bakari-: 00:59:860 (3,4,5) - kinda the same as above
20:33 Andrea: it's already 1.6x though ;w; how much should I make it?
20:34 -Bakari-: 00:59:860 (3,4) - 1,1x here
20:34 -Bakari-: 01:01:460 (3,4) - and here 
20:35 -Bakari-: I'm going super-nazi just because I can't really find anything else @.@ hope you don't mind 
20:35 Andrea: you want me to space them closed?
20:35 Andrea: if you mean that I'd prefer to not do it, I dislike them being so close orz ;__;
20:35 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/eykhX.jpg 
20:35 Andrea: and no it's all good :3
20:36 Andrea: ohhh I got it now, sorry I'm slow xD
20:36 -Bakari-: 01:01:460 (3,4) - same stuff here [2]
20:37 Andrea: gonna fix them all
20:37 Andrea: got the idea ^^
20:37 -Bakari-: 01:33:960 (3,4,5,6) - and another minor suggestion, take a look at this in the test mode 
20:38 -Bakari-: osu! unstacks them automatically and you might be not satisfied with the outcome 
20:38 Andrea: I'll move it down a bit
20:40 -Bakari-: I'm a little worried about copypasted things, but they sound the same, so I believe that's gonna be okay 
20:40 Andrea: yup I've used the same patterns but changed the spacing, since the song is completely the same until 2nd kiai end
20:40 Andrea: blame my lazyness ;;
20:41 Andrea: rest is different though
20:42 Andrea: fixed the rest you mentioned on the kiais btw
20:43 -Bakari-: 02:05:260 (1) - I hate this kind of stuff, but can we move it a little higher? [http://puu.sh/eyl8x.jpg that's why]
20:44 Andrea: moved 2 grids up
20:44 -Bakari-: 02:37:660 (2,3,4,5,6) - I was a little confused with this, it might be misread as 1/2 @.@ 
20:45 -Bakari-: Yay, finally. Not a nazi suggestion! 
20:45 -Bakari-: 02:43:260 (1,2) - try to Ctrl+G them, so the downbeats and vocals will be stressed 
20:45 -Bakari-: [http://puu.sh/eyls9.jpg a picture]
20:47 -Bakari-: 03:08:660 (5,6,7) - dude, you will hate me for these spacing suggestions, sorry @.@ 
20:48 Andrea: all should be fixed now :3
20:50 -Bakari-: 03:36:460 (1,2,3) - these three feel a little unnatural. The most logical thing is to place a long slider like 03:33:260 (1,5) - since that's what vocals are asking for 
20:51 Andrea: I'm following the piano here ><
20:51 Andrea: 03:42:860 (1,2,3,4) - like here
20:51 Andrea: I did 1 part vocal, 1 part piano
20:51 Andrea: repeating all time
20:51 Andrea: to not make it repetitive
20:51 Andrea: same repeats on other parts as well
20:51 Andrea: vocal/piano/vocal/piano
20:51 Andrea: etc.
20:52 -Bakari-: Maybe we can try 40% volume or something like that, then? 
20:52 -Bakari-: It just feels like... meh, like it's going off piano 
20:52 -Bakari-: so, quiter hitsounds should make this feeling go away 
20:53 Andrea: 40% for the whole section or just the piano parts?
20:53 Andrea: alright :3 let me try
20:53 -Bakari-: just the piano 
20:54 -Bakari-: 03:47:060 (2,3) - Ctrl+G them. It's better to have sliders begin on white ticks 
20:54 -Bakari-: afterwise, you'll have to take care of re-spacing, I guess
20:54 Andrea: 40% feels a bit low, I'll make it 50% instead
20:54 -Bakari-: Okay, sounds cool to me
20:56 Andrea: okay fixed the volume on piano parts :3
20:56 -Bakari-: 03:57:260 (1,2,3,4,5) - the increasing noise and the whole sound feels more like a spinner to me
20:57 -Bakari-: 04:03:260 (1) - the downbeat is unclickable as it is mapped with a slidertail. What if we try to stress it? [http://puu.sh/eymJn.jpg ~]
20:58 -Bakari-: 04:04:860 (1) - ^
21:00 Andrea: all fixed except the last one, I'm not sure how would I fix that because I've used it for the whole time ;w;
21:00 Andrea: I'd prefer to keep that if possible
21:00 -Bakari-: sure, as you wish :)
21:01 -Bakari-: 04:12:460 (5,6) - I believe they will fit better as a slider 
21:02 -Bakari-: there is practically nothing at 04:12:660 so a slider will fit better, I think
21:02 Andrea: changed to slider
21:02 -Bakari-: 04:15:560 (5,6,7) - just a reminder to make them more readable :3 
21:03 -Bakari-: 04:19:460 (8,1) - probably you'd prefer to have a blanket here 
21:04 Andrea: made a blanket :D/
21:04 -Bakari-: 04:34:760 (6,7,8) - this will be more playable with equal DS values. the rhythm switches to the blue ticks, so, a jump may mislead players
21:05 -Bakari-: 04:39:860 (4,5,6) - might be just me, but if you Ctrl+g them they seem to fit better
21:05 -Bakari-: 04:52:660 (4,5,6,1) - ^
21:07 Andrea: let me try
21:09 -Bakari-: 05:22:860 (7,8) - can we make the second reverse more noticeable? [http://puu.sh/eyocr.jpg a simple example] 
21:22 Andrea: I made a better pattern though, so you'll see :D
21:23 Andrea: and used 1/3 of course~
21:24 -Bakari-: 05:45:160 (3) - I might be going deaf, but there's also a chance that this circle is overmapped 
21:25 Andrea: yeah that one is actually overmapped lol
21:25 Andrea: I made a custom rhythm on that, can't deny xD
21:26 -Bakari-: are you sure you want it here? 
21:26 Andrea: let me try to remove it
21:27 Andrea: hmm yeah I'd like to keep it if it's fine for you @.@
21:30 -Bakari-: Well, if you have a reason, it's cool
21:30 -Bakari-: Anyways, is the diffname actually related to the song?  
21:30 Andrea: mostly because I feel it breaks the rest of the rhythm if I remove it
21:30 Andrea: Ma Cherie in French means My Darling
21:31 -Bakari-: Yep, refering to a female person 
21:31 Andrea: it's a sad love song
21:31 -Bakari-:   ^ that's enough 
21:31 -Bakari-: I couldn't find a translation, so 
21:32 -Bakari-: Okay, that should be it
21:32 -Bakari-: Update, I'll recheck
21:33 Andrea: okay then \o/
21:34 Andrea: updated! btw the mods was pretty helpful and not nazi
21:34 -Bakari-: I actually tried to google-translate [http://j-lyric.net/artist/a05793f/l03148c.html this] 
21:34 Andrea: I appreciate any kind of mods
21:34 -Bakari-: As long as it looks helpful for you - I'm happy :) 
21:35 -Bakari-: let me delete and re-dl the map 
21:35 -Bakari-: just to make sure that there're no BSS issues :)
21:35 Andrea: alright :3