14:35 MasterSonic10: Yeah
14:36 MasterSonic10: okay
14:36 Harbyter: done?
14:36 Harbyter: ok
14:36 Harbyter: then here
14:36 Harbyter: 00:23:805 (23805|3,23981|3) -
14:36 Harbyter: those 2 ln doesn't suit here
14:36 Harbyter: cause here there isn't a change of the sound
14:36 MasterSonic10: :/
14:36 MasterSonic10: It'll lessen the difficulty a little bit but okay
14:36 Harbyter: sounds that you can ehar is always from those00:23:628 (23628|2,23628|0,23893|2,23893|0) -
14:36 MasterSonic10: oh wait
14:37 MasterSonic10: Maybe I can make it 3 ln's
14:37 MasterSonic10:
http://puu.sh/e9b51/8011913d62.jpg ?
14:38 Harbyter:
http://puu.sh/e9b7n/fc7bcdac39.jpg14:38 Harbyter: like this too
14:38 MasterSonic10: the 2nd LN starts here 00:23:893 -
14:39 Harbyter: yea
14:39 MasterSonic10: Plus it's also noticeably short anyway
14:39 MasterSonic10: So I'm gonna keep it like that
14:39 Harbyter: oky
14:39 Harbyter: it's fine too
14:39 Harbyter: but if you listen carefully in 25% sounds end here 00:23:849 -
14:39 MasterSonic10: For pitch relevancy as well
14:40 MasterSonic10: Does it?
14:40 Harbyter: yup
14:40 MasterSonic10: Alright
14:40 Harbyter: and the second LN sounds end here 00:24:025 -
14:40 MasterSonic10: Ah
14:40 Harbyter: that's why i have suggest to you a pattern like that
14:40 MasterSonic10: It does so
14:40 MasterSonic10: Yeah
14:41 MasterSonic10: Okay, i'll use that
14:41 MasterSonic10: Same thing here right?
14:41 MasterSonic10: 00:24:070 -
14:41 Harbyter: 3rd LN end here 00:24:290 -
14:41 MasterSonic10: yeah
http://puu.sh/e9btb/8a239c29b6.jpg14:42 Harbyter: yea
14:42 Harbyter: but maybe change the position of the LN?
14:42 Harbyter: xD
14:42 MasterSonic10: Mm... Well
14:42 MasterSonic10: It's SHD
14:42 MasterSonic10: plus for pitch relevancy?
14:42 Harbyter: isn't really hard that pattern
14:42 Harbyter: well it's the same
14:42 Harbyter: lol
14:43 MasterSonic10: actually 4th ln
14:43 MasterSonic10: sounds lower
14:43 Harbyter: that's why,sounds lower so more suitable to put those 3 LN in col 1 2 3
14:43 Harbyter: following the high and low flow of the music
14:43 MasterSonic10:
http://puu.sh/e9bGB/766d8629d2.jpg14:44 Harbyter: yea it's oky too
14:44 Harbyter: here the same
14:44 Harbyter: 00:25:481 (25481|1) -
14:44 Harbyter: end thos eLN 00:25:305 (25305|3,25305|0,25305|2) - here 00:25:525 -
14:45 Harbyter: and delete that little ln
14:45 MasterSonic10: Okay, done it
14:45 Harbyter: delete this one 00:26:584 (26584|0) -
14:45 Harbyter: nothing here
14:46 MasterSonic10: ok
14:46 Harbyter: now here
14:46 Harbyter: 00:26:981 (26981|0,26981|2) - you put those notes for the pitch
14:46 Harbyter: right?
14:47 MasterSonic10: There's like
14:47 MasterSonic10: a little "tick" sound
14:47 Harbyter: yea
14:47 Harbyter: 00:27:334 - here the same
14:47 MasterSonic10: or like, yeah
14:47 Harbyter: but you left empty
14:47 MasterSonic10: Ah
14:47 MasterSonic10: Okay
14:47 MasterSonic10: Yeah I added that as well
14:47 Harbyter: oky
14:48 Harbyter: 00:27:864 - here the same
14:49 MasterSonic10: Alright
14:49 Harbyter: 00:34:217 (34217|1,34275|0,34334|1,34393|2,34452|3,34511|2) - wrong here
14:49 Harbyter: isn't a 1/6
14:49 Harbyter: but a 1/8
14:49 MasterSonic10: I thought so
14:49 MasterSonic10: I was about to say that as well
14:49 MasterSonic10: I think Kuo might have accidentally made it 1/6
14:49 Harbyter: xD
14:50 MasterSonic10: when he was resnapping
14:50 Harbyter: oh
14:50 Harbyter: this is kuo part?
14:50 Harbyter: various artis?
14:50 MasterSonic10: Nah
14:50 MasterSonic10: That's my part
14:50 Harbyter: oh
14:50 MasterSonic10: oh well
14:50 MasterSonic10: leme explain
14:50 MasterSonic10: before
14:50 Harbyter: ok
14:50 MasterSonic10: Kuo went to fix everything
14:50 MasterSonic10: I already had this diff done
14:50 MasterSonic10: so yeah
14:50 Harbyter: understand
14:51 Harbyter: anyway this is my personal opinion
14:51 Harbyter: people that can play hard song with experience can map and mod well difficulty songs too
14:51 Harbyter: and give better opinion about pattern
14:51 Harbyter: so if you will continue to learn mapping and ecc.
14:51 MasterSonic10: Okay
14:51 Harbyter: you will be good too
14:51 MasterSonic10: Ah yeah
14:51 MasterSonic10: Cause apparently
14:52 MasterSonic10: It's a very well made map for a new mapper like me
14:52 Harbyter: that's why arcwilinovisu is good
14:52 Harbyter: like a BAT
14:52 Harbyter: cause he is a ET too
14:52 MasterSonic10: Okay
14:52 MasterSonic10: yeah
14:52 Harbyter: and he can understand really well every pattern
14:52 MasterSonic10: I suppose in that theory area I'm a little behind
14:52 Harbyter: you need experience
14:52 MasterSonic10: though I think I'm on par or around arcwin's level anyway
14:53 MasterSonic10: Yeah
14:53 Harbyter: it's normal
14:53 MasterSonic10: well, skill-wise
14:53 MasterSonic10: that is
14:53 Harbyter: so other suggestion
14:53 Harbyter: learn to mod
14:53 MasterSonic10: Oh
14:53 Harbyter: it will help really a lot to understand
14:53 MasterSonic10: Yeah
14:54 MasterSonic10: Oh um, did you come to me via the fourm?
14:54 Harbyter: yup
14:54 MasterSonic10: Ooh
14:54 Harbyter: mod rec on falec modding team
14:54 MasterSonic10: That's fast actually
14:54 MasterSonic10: Thanks for accepting it~ >.<
14:55 Harbyter: np
14:55 Harbyter: today is a free day
14:55 MasterSonic10: Ah I see
14:55 Harbyter: don';t have to go to work
14:55 Harbyter: so
14:55 Harbyter: xD
14:55 MasterSonic10: Heh xD
14:55 Harbyter: anyway see here
14:55 Harbyter: 00:42:687 -
14:55 Harbyter: it's like the previous one that kuo put the 1/6 instead of the 1/8
14:55 Harbyter: here the sound is stronger
14:55 Harbyter: but the flow is the same
14:55 MasterSonic10: ?
14:55 MasterSonic10: It's
14:55 MasterSonic10: 1/8
14:56 MasterSonic10: though?
14:56 Harbyter: yea
14:56 Harbyter: it's 1/8
14:56 MasterSonic10: Ah
14:56 Harbyter: he done well here
14:56 MasterSonic10: It's just an example?
14:56 Harbyter: but wrong in the previous one
14:56 Harbyter: yes
14:56 Harbyter: xD
14:56 MasterSonic10: Ooh okay
14:56 MasterSonic10: xD
14:57 Harbyter: 00:48:599 (48599|2) -
14:57 Harbyter: delete?
14:57 Harbyter: you only followed the drums here
14:57 Harbyter: and the sounds effect
14:58 MasterSonic10: in SC
14:58 MasterSonic10: the first diff I made
14:58 MasterSonic10: using the reference thing
14:58 MasterSonic10: I put notes their cause there was a sound
14:58 MasterSonic10: Ah
14:58 MasterSonic10: Okay
14:58 MasterSonic10: Yeah, I'm mistaken then
14:58 Harbyter: better to follow an accurate flow of pattern
14:58 MasterSonic10: only that note has no sound
14:58 Harbyter: cause if you have put notes here for the sound
14:58 Harbyter: then
14:58 MasterSonic10: I have to fix that for SC as well, and others maybe
14:58 Harbyter: starting from the start of the pattern
14:58 Harbyter: 00:44:452 -
14:59 Harbyter: you should've put notes for every sound
14:59 MasterSonic10: Erm...
14:59 MasterSonic10: so what should I do there
15:00 Harbyter: just delete that note
15:00 MasterSonic10: ?
15:00 Harbyter: 00:48:599 (48599|2) -
15:00 Harbyter: this one
15:00 MasterSonic10: That note is for the long "ewwwwwwwww" sound
15:00 MasterSonic10: Wait huh?
15:00 Harbyter: the ewww sound start here 00:48:511 (48511|0) -
15:00 MasterSonic10: 00:44:452 - what about this one?
15:00 Harbyter: lel
15:01 MasterSonic10: Are you sure..?
15:01 Harbyter: ye
15:01 MasterSonic10: It's the guitar thing
15:01 MasterSonic10: Are you using headphones/earphones btw?
15:01 Harbyter: for the guitar you used this 00:48:423 (48423|1) -
15:01 Harbyter: headphones beats
15:01 MasterSonic10: Erm..
15:01 MasterSonic10: Try listening from
15:01 MasterSonic10: 00:44:452 -
15:01 MasterSonic10: here
15:01 MasterSonic10: without it
15:02 MasterSonic10: Maybe you can't hear the long electric guitar sound?
15:02 Harbyter: 00:44:452 (44452|3,45864|2,47275|1,48158|2,48334|3,48423|1,48687|0) -
15:02 Harbyter: you mean the electric guitar
15:02 Harbyter: right?
15:02 MasterSonic10: Yeah
15:03 MasterSonic10: Yeap
15:03 MasterSonic10: That's what it's for
15:03 Harbyter: for the electric guitar in this section you used those LN
15:03 MasterSonic10: but you told me to delete the note on that 00:44:452 -
15:03 Harbyter: ah
15:03 Harbyter: no
15:03 MasterSonic10:
http://puu.sh/e9dE5/5e40a4927e.jpg15:03 MasterSonic10: It looked like it xP
15:03 Harbyter: no
15:03 Harbyter: starting from the start of the pattern
15:03 Harbyter: there
15:04 MasterSonic10: okay
15:04 Harbyter: you should've put notes for every part of the song
15:04 Harbyter: it's an explanation
15:04 MasterSonic10: oh so
15:04 MasterSonic10: Ah
15:04 MasterSonic10: Okay
15:04 MasterSonic10: So you're not telling me to add anything beside this LN 00:44:452 (44452|3) -
15:04 Harbyter:
http://puu.sh/e9dKZ/d506719577.jpg15:04 Harbyter: see
15:05 Harbyter: read only my text
15:05 Harbyter: xD
15:05 MasterSonic10: oh okay
15:05 Harbyter: anyway i think is better to add
15:05 Harbyter: another note there
15:05 Harbyter: 00:44:452 -
15:05 Harbyter: for drum and guitar
15:06 Harbyter: 00:45:864 - here too
15:06 MasterSonic10: Yeah
15:06 Harbyter: drum + guitar
15:06 MasterSonic10: Yep
15:08 Harbyter: 01:02:452 -
15:08 Harbyter: here better not left empty
15:08 Harbyter: if following you pattern style in this section,you have put other notes when there is a change of the sound of the guitar
15:08 Harbyter: so just add 1 notes here
15:08 MasterSonic10: Alright
15:09 Harbyter: 01:03:864 - here too
15:09 Harbyter: add in col 4?
15:09 MasterSonic10: Hmm
15:10 MasterSonic10: I was going to put it in col 2 like a shield
15:10 Harbyter: it's oky too
15:10 MasterSonic10: Add a note here? 01:03:864 (63864|1) -
15:11 MasterSonic10: oops
15:11 MasterSonic10: 01:04:746 -
15:11 MasterSonic10: this one
15:11 Harbyter: no
15:11 Harbyter: don't need
15:11 MasterSonic10: Ah okay
15:12 Harbyter: from here
15:12 Harbyter: just because is a SHD
15:12 Harbyter: why don't use the 1/8?
15:12 MasterSonic10: Which part?
15:12 Harbyter: guitar sound + tik + other sounds ar ein 1/8
15:13 Harbyter: 01:08:584 -
15:13 Harbyter: 01:08:673 -
15:13 Harbyter: 01:08:761 -
15:13 MasterSonic10: ooh
15:13 Harbyter: 01:08:937 -
15:13 MasterSonic10: wait
15:13 Harbyter: ecc. ecc.
15:13 MasterSonic10: Basically this part and above?
15:13 MasterSonic10: 01:08:452 (68452|0,68540|1,68628|2,68717|1,68805|0,68893|1,68981|2,69070|0,69158|1,69246|0) -
15:14 MasterSonic10: in 1/8 instead of 1/6
15:14 MasterSonic10: er...
15:14 Harbyter: well here is 1/4
15:14 MasterSonic10: instead of 1/12
15:14 Harbyter: xD
15:14 MasterSonic10: oh
15:14 MasterSonic10: what
15:14 MasterSonic10: oh
15:14 MasterSonic10: lol
15:14 MasterSonic10: But change from 1/4 to 1/8?
15:14 Harbyter: try to do this
15:14 Harbyter: let the LN for the moment
15:14 MasterSonic10: ok
15:14 Harbyter: then star to add notes where i told you to put
15:15 Harbyter: after this you can change the pattern
15:15 Harbyter: this to have a better reference of where are the notes
15:15 MasterSonic10: um
15:15 Harbyter: i always do like this when mapping
15:15 MasterSonic10: okay?
15:15 Harbyter: before putting notes where they should to be
15:15 Harbyter: then rearrange for better pattern
15:15 Harbyter: add here first 01:08:584 -
15:15 Harbyter: 01:08:673 -
15:16 Harbyter: 01:08:761 -
15:16 Harbyter: 01:08:937 -
15:16 Harbyter: 01:09:025 -
15:16 Harbyter: 01:09:290 -
15:16 Harbyter: 01:09:378 -
15:16 Harbyter: 01:09:467 -
15:16 Harbyter: 01:09:555 -
15:17 Harbyter: 01:09:731 -
15:17 Harbyter: 01:09:820 -
15:17 Harbyter: ok
15:17 MasterSonic10: um
15:17 MasterSonic10: okay
15:17 Harbyter: add notes there then it should be more easier to rearrange the pattern
15:17 MasterSonic10: what did you mean by star?
15:18 Harbyter: start"
15:18 MasterSonic10: oh
15:18 MasterSonic10: also
15:18 MasterSonic10: what do these notes do
15:18 MasterSonic10: because your explaination before kinda
15:18 MasterSonic10: confused me a little
15:18 Harbyter: mmm
15:18 Harbyter: those notes are for the guitar
15:18 Harbyter: if you listen carefully there are changes of guitar sound
15:19 MasterSonic10: Yeah
15:19 MasterSonic10: but don't they consist throughout the whole section?
15:19 Harbyter: just here ,for this section thos epattern in 1/8 suits better
15:19 MasterSonic10: okay
15:19 MasterSonic10: but doesn't the
15:20 MasterSonic10: guitar sound go through the whole section?
15:20 MasterSonic10: or
15:20 MasterSonic10: is that where the pitch changes?
15:20 MasterSonic10: Ah
15:20 MasterSonic10: okay I understand now
15:20 MasterSonic10: So the LN goes all the way through
15:20 Harbyter: they end here 01:10:040 -
15:20 MasterSonic10: but those notes are where they change
15:21 Harbyter: you can try like this if you want
15:21 MasterSonic10: Hmm...
15:21 Harbyter: wait i will rearrange the pattern
15:21 Harbyter: one moment
15:21 MasterSonic10: Okay
15:21 Harbyter: xd
15:21 MasterSonic10: Alright then
15:23 Harbyter:
http://puu.sh/e9fzl/d2a665dff0.jpg15:23 Harbyter: something like this
15:24 Harbyter: then you can chose how to rearrange the pattern
15:24 MasterSonic10: woah
15:24 MasterSonic10: I see
15:24 MasterSonic10: I'll try that then
15:24 Harbyter: oky
15:29 MasterSonic10: Okay done
15:29 Harbyter: oky
15:30 MasterSonic10:
http://puu.sh/e9gbd/babea3a8b4.jpg15:30 MasterSonic10: Yeah
15:30 Harbyter: oky
15:30 Harbyter: nice stream
15:30 Harbyter: now here
15:30 Harbyter: add notes here
15:30 Harbyter: 01:14:408 -
15:30 Harbyter: 01:14:452 -
15:30 Harbyter: and delete this 01:14:540 (74540|0) -
15:31 Harbyter: you followed those strange sounds here
15:31 MasterSonic10: Okay
15:31 MasterSonic10: After this diff, I'm going to sleep >.<
15:31 MasterSonic10: Ah
15:31 MasterSonic10: okay
15:31 Harbyter: np
15:32 Harbyter: i've said before,this mod will be long
15:32 Harbyter: xD
15:32 Harbyter: acuurate mods needs time
15:32 Harbyter: accurate"
15:32 MasterSonic10: yeah
15:32 MasterSonic10: that's okauy
15:32 MasterSonic10: Are you modding the other difficulties as well?
15:32 MasterSonic10: If so, then you can post the rest on the thread
15:32 Harbyter: oky
15:33 MasterSonic10: Okay, continuing on
15:33 Harbyter: don't expect from me to mod the easier one
15:33 Harbyter: like the ez or nm
15:33 Harbyter: too boring for me
15:33 Harbyter: LOL
15:33 MasterSonic10: lol
15:33 MasterSonic10: That's fine
15:33 Harbyter: i prefer mod difficult maps
15:33 Harbyter: u,u
15:33 MasterSonic10: Can other's from the fourm take mine?
15:33 MasterSonic10: as well?
15:33 Harbyter: yea
15:33 Harbyter: if they wanna mod
15:33 MasterSonic10: Ah okay good
15:34 MasterSonic10: Alright then
15:34 Harbyter: they can mod your diff too as well
15:34 MasterSonic10: Yeah
15:34 Harbyter: but i think you should ask they directly
15:34 MasterSonic10: Mm.. :/
15:34 Harbyter: cause when someone see that there's already a mod from our modding team they will istant ignore
15:34 Harbyter: lol
15:34 MasterSonic10: Oh :/
15:34 MasterSonic10: Though
15:34 Harbyter: so try to ask pporse or ijinjin
15:34 MasterSonic10: Once you're done
15:35 MasterSonic10: oh
15:35 MasterSonic10: okay
15:35 MasterSonic10: So I just ask them?
15:35 Harbyter: yup
15:35 MasterSonic10: Mm... okay
15:35 MasterSonic10: I suppose you're going to mod until like the MX diff maybe?
15:35 Harbyter: maybe the hd too
15:35 Harbyter: let me see first
15:35 MasterSonic10: Ah okay
15:35 MasterSonic10: HD+ and HD
15:35 Harbyter: oh
15:35 Harbyter: another thing
15:35 MasterSonic10: Yes?
15:36 Harbyter: better if you increase the difficulty of the MX
15:36 MasterSonic10: Oh
15:36 MasterSonic10: I tried
15:36 Harbyter: mx with 3.10 star?
15:36 Harbyter: really little
15:36 MasterSonic10: but I couldn't figure out where to add more notes :/
15:36 MasterSonic10: Yeah
15:36 Harbyter: should be 3.5 for better spread of difficulty
15:36 MasterSonic10: The gap between SC and MX is big
15:36 Harbyter: yep
15:36 MasterSonic10: yeah I know
15:36 Harbyter: will figure out what you can add
15:36 MasterSonic10: I tried looking into the MX diff
15:36 MasterSonic10: but
15:36 Harbyter: to increase the diff
15:36 MasterSonic10: :/
15:36 MasterSonic10: Alright :/
15:37 Harbyter: 01:20:584 -
15:37 Harbyter: add here
15:37 MasterSonic10: ok
15:37 Harbyter: you forgot that note
15:37 Harbyter: xD
15:38 MasterSonic10: haha
15:38 MasterSonic10: I guess I didn't hear everything
15:38 MasterSonic10: Because I used 50% speed
15:38 MasterSonic10: so probably didn't hear everything from 25%
15:38 Harbyter: yea
15:38 Harbyter: better 25%
15:38 Harbyter: for songs like this
15:38 MasterSonic10: yeah
15:38 Harbyter: reccomend to use 50% for slow songs
15:39 Harbyter: 01:26:540 - add here
15:39 Harbyter: pattern start from ehre
15:39 MasterSonic10: Mm
15:39 MasterSonic10: I noticed that with 25% as well
15:39 MasterSonic10: wait
15:40 Harbyter: ok
15:40 MasterSonic10: I missed one here 01:27:687 -
15:40 MasterSonic10: er...
15:40 MasterSonic10: 01:27:731 -
15:40 MasterSonic10: here
15:40 Harbyter: 01:27:511 -
15:40 Harbyter: yes
15:40 Harbyter: there too
15:40 MasterSonic10: There?
15:40 Harbyter: 01:27:511 - here and here 01:27:731 -
15:41 MasterSonic10: Okay
15:41 MasterSonic10: I didn't think there would be one on that first one
15:41 Harbyter: xD
15:41 Harbyter: then i suggest to turn those 01:28:040 (88040|3,88040|1) -
15:41 Harbyter: in LN\
15:42 Harbyter: 01:32:143 -
15:42 Harbyter: here too
15:42 MasterSonic10: Alright
15:42 Harbyter: missing note
15:42 Harbyter: 01:32:231 -
15:42 Harbyter: here too
15:43 Harbyter: 01:36:158 - here i think is a 1/12
15:43 Harbyter: let me test a moment
15:43 Harbyter: xd
15:44 MasterSonic10: like this?
http://puu.sh/e9hwR/c14b19ccb4.jpg15:44 MasterSonic10: That's like death if 1/12 x.x
15:45 Harbyter: ok your pics is fine
15:45 Harbyter: for the 1/12
15:45 Harbyter: uhm
15:45 Harbyter: ye i know it's hard
15:45 MasterSonic10: Is it though?
15:45 MasterSonic10: Cause if it is i'll put it in
15:45 Harbyter: is a SHD so
15:45 Harbyter: who cares
15:45 MasterSonic10: oh wait
15:45 MasterSonic10: 1/12
15:45 Harbyter: put the 1/2
15:45 Harbyter: 1/12
15:45 MasterSonic10: not 1/15
15:45 MasterSonic10: 1/16*
15:45 Harbyter: 1/12
15:45 MasterSonic10: nevermind
15:45 MasterSonic10: 1/12 is fine
15:45 Harbyter: xD
15:45 MasterSonic10: I thought 1/16 xD
15:46 Harbyter: www 1/16 really hard
15:46 MasterSonic10: yeah lol
15:46 Harbyter: there are really few songs with 1/16
15:46 Harbyter: and is not reccomaned to do it
15:46 Harbyter: cause a pattern long like this in 1/16 will increase the star rating a lot
15:46 Harbyter: and then the rest of the song if is easy comparet to that pattern
15:46 MasterSonic10: yeqh
15:47 MasterSonic10: yeah*
15:47 Harbyter: will be hard to rank it then
15:48 Harbyter: 01:41:628 - add 2 here?
15:48 MasterSonic10: Eh.... I'll add 1
15:48 Harbyter: ok
15:48 Harbyter: it's oky too
15:49 Harbyter: ok
15:49 Harbyter: the rest is fine
15:49 MasterSonic10: Ah okay
15:49 MasterSonic10: I'll play test it all
15:50 Harbyter: oky