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thnikk's Osu! Keypads [Development]

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Thnikk

Khelly wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5128930

You gon' get shut down by the mods thinkk xdddd
I would hope not. I haven't been using this thread as much for promotion as I have for feedback. I think I have a good reputation as far as sales are concerned (average of 5 stars for reviews 8-) ) and I don't handle any sales through the forum, everything is done through Etsy. This thread is great because it lets me talk to you guys and get feedback on my products FROM the community that I'm making them for. Speaking of which...

4k Keypad!


The design is still pending and I'll be making 2 more prototypes within the next few days just to play around with it a little bit, but I'd like to get some feedback from you guys in the mean time.

LED modes

Cycle - Does a cascading rainbow effect. This was shown off in the video I posted above, but now also has a built-in reactive mode that turns the LEDs white when pressed.
Taiko - Changes to taiko colors (orange inside blue outside)
Project Diva - I made this one mostly for myself for playing the PSP project diva games though PPSSPP but it's just the sony color scheme layed out in the same way as the Project Diva Arcade. I was planning on doing most of my testing with the game since I suck at taiko and osu!mania (using two of them.)
Custom - Set the color of each individual LED. Could replace the Taiko and Project Diva modes but I think I'd like to have them all.
BPS - Same as the BPS mode on the 2 key RGBW keypad, changes color depending on how many times the key is pressed per second but per-key instead.


Port location
The port is on the back since the controller fit inside the case vertically. It could go on the left side like it does on my other models, but I think this is more accommodating if someone wanted to use two of them together (like I want to with my testing.)


Edit: also thinking that the side button doesn't make any sense on the left side anymore since one-handed use would tie up your pinky leaving only your thumb free. I think I will try the middle of the front.

Edit 2: Button moved


Mahogany
I wouldn't be worried, the mods just shut down stuff on a whim without giving their actual reasons.

If they tried to shut down this post, rest assured there'd be a shitstorm and it'd be unlocked.
The Gambler

Thnikk wrote:

4k Keypad!
Good call on those keycaps. I always have a problem with fingers slipping loose on my 4K set but can't be justified to order keycaps online except for when I want a full set...
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 6/3/16

So this is more of a halfway-update, but one that I'm still excited about.

Parts for the 4k model are on their way!
They should be up on the shop in about a week.


A new project...
As some of you may know, Project Diva Future Tone is coming out on the 23rd of June! I'm a huge fan of the series and I even picked up a ps4 just to play it. I made a post about a year ago about my attempts at making a controller for the PS3/PSTV but the dualshock 3 was a huge pain to work with and it ended up not working.

Since I already had a DS4 before I bought the PS4, I had an extra and decided to revisit the idea. This time it worked perfectly! I'm still using the same Ikea screw case and Chinese buttons I used last year and I have absolutely no experience with any arcade-style controllers.

Prototype 0.1


With it working, I decided I wanted to try to make a real one that doesn't suck and look like a 4th grade arts and crafts project so I made a mockup in Fusion360.

Concept prototype 1.0


This made me a lot more excited. Now I have some clear Sanwa buttons and a case like the one in the render on the way so hopefully I can make a slightly less shiny version of the one above! I don't know if this is something that I would like to make and sell, but since it doesn't really pertain to osu I'd like to not talk about it too much here. I just wanted to share with you guys because I thought the render came out really cool. I'll try to post about it more when the parts come in on twitter, so follow me if you're interested! [link]
Cataclysm
I don't want to make it seem like your fault or anything, but I have encountered problems with the keypad which bring me to ask if the keypad isn't compatible with some OS? I currently have windows 7 but it has brought up several (small) issues. Nothing serious but I'm just curious.
Topic Starter
Thnikk

Symacon wrote:

I don't want to make it seem like your fault or anything, but I have encountered problems with the keypad which bring me to ask if the keypad isn't compatible with some OS? I currently have windows 7 but it has brought up several (small) issues. Nothing serious but I'm just curious.
Do you have another micro usb cable you can try out? That's what causes any issues most commonly.
Cataclysm
is it usb 3.0 or 2.0?
The Gambler

Symacon wrote:

is it usb 3.0 or 2.0?
Did you check your keyboard model? All the model specs are on thnikk's Etsy page
Cataclysm
Well I couldn't find it there so that is why I am asking
The Gambler

Symacon wrote:

Well I couldn't find it there so that is why I am asking
Googling the right information is a skill of its own. Train on that.
http://thnikk.moe/keypad/models/
Cataclysm
I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
The Gambler

Symacon wrote:

I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
I didn't either until Wikipedia told me. Praise peppy.
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Not sure why I only get email notifications of posts sometimes.

Update 11/15/16
I guess I should have said this 2 weks ago, but the release of the 4k keypad has been delayed. I would like to release it as soon as possible, but I still have some logistical stuff to sort out and I've been very busy. I'm pushing the ETA back to the end of this month, but I am trying to get it up as soon as possible.

Symacon wrote:

I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
Sorry about that, I used to work at a computer store that stocked micro usb type A and B so customers would always come to the counter with type A. I've felt the need to specify ever since, but most people don't know what the B means.



As you can see, A is no good since it won't physically fit (but B fits inside A making A cables useless.)

tl;dr it's just a regular micro usb port
Cataclysm
Thanks for clarifying that :D
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 7/13

Hello everyone! Since I haven't posted in a while, I thought I'd give a status report.

Absence
To start off, I've gotten another job and had less time to do development stuff. There is a reason for this, however, and I'm very close to getting a 3d printer now! For any of you that are curious, I was planning on getting the Printrbot Simple originally, but there Simple v2 comes out this month and I'm looking at that now.

3D Printer
So I've been talking about it a lot, but what does this mean for me any my shop?

Custom parts - This is the biggest thing for me. I'm still working on improving my Project Diva controller by adding things like the PS4 touchpad and analog sticks, but these are hard to add. Being able to make custom brackets would make this dead simple and inexpensive. Who knows what else I could make, the sky is the limit.

Custom cases - This I'm about 50/50 on. I don't want to compromise the quality of my keypads since the cases I've been using the same cases for a year and a half and they've been great and look pretty nice, but being able to print them would give me 100% flexibility of design and lighten my workload. I'll have to print one first to see how it looks, but this would be especially helpful for the 4k keypad since that's a lot of cutting and my hands aren't nearly as precise as a machine. This is the other reason I haven't finished the 4k keypad, since it would be a lot of work to go through all of the effort of taking pictures, writing descriptions, updating my website, taking shipping weight, etc. if I 'm just going to end up changing it in a month. It could also help with slimming them down a bit and helping mounting buttons internally so I don't have to use the panel mount side buttons anymore. Sorry to anyone that's been waiting, but I want to make the best thing I can. If you are still interested in a 4k keypad, PM me and we can work something out.
Rumon
This may seem like a stupid question but what is the weight of the keyboard. As if it is light it could be easily knocked around.
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 7/27/16

Keypad status
More parts are on the way and the shop will be back up on August 1st.


3D Printer
I got my 3d printer and it's great! I was finally able to finish my project diva controller:



I'm very excited for future projects and the potential for future keypads. I'll be posting more 3d printed stuff on twitter so follow me if you're interested.

reeman123 wrote:

This may seem like a stupid question but what is the weight of the keyboard. As if it is light it could be easily knocked around.
It weighs about 1 ounce. The keypad uses tape (scotch restickable tabs) to stick to your desk and keep it from moving around, and can be cleaned when it gets dirty. I am thinking about trying something new soon, though.
Jau
The 4k one interests me if you can offer the rgbw version.
The only caveat I feel is the programmability. When not playing osu!, I'd love to have it act as a small macropad.
Topic Starter
Thnikk

Jau wrote:

The 4k one interests me if you can offer the rgbw version.
The only caveat I feel is the programmability. When not playing osu!, I'd love to have it act as a small macropad.
I haven't completely decided yet, but I'm leaning towards only offering an RGBW version. All of my keypads are completely reprogrammable. My remapping utility lets you remap the keys to any character-printing key, but you could set up macros pretty easily as long as you're willing to get your feet wet with Arduino programming a little bit. I could also help you out with it.


Update 8/23/16

Hello everyone! I know I haven't posted in a while and my shop is currently down, but this has been one of the busiest times in all of my time making keypads.

Thread changes
I've been told by moderation that my thread poses an issue in its current state.
I respect the decision of the osu staff. I'm not sure if this thread will still be around in a week, but I have been told that I can have a thread for development (so basically exactly what this thread is right now) but no promotion or anything of the sort. It's a slight shift, but I may need to make a new thread, no big deal. From now on, no sale related conversation will take place in the thread and links to my Etsy shop will be removed. Just visit my twitter instead ;)

As always, if you do decide to buy from me, consider contributing to the development of the game by becoming a supporter.


3D Printing

I have a new family!


So after about a year, I was finally able to pick up not just one but TWO printers! The Printrbot Play is on the left and the Printrbot Simple is on the right. It took a couple weeks of tweaking, but I'm finally satisfied with both the designs I've come up with and the print quality of the two printers. Now I can introduce what all of my effort of the past two months has gone into (and the project diva controller, but that was just for fun.)


New 2K keypad
Dimensions: 32mm x 52.5mm x 15mm


I'm really happy with how the new cutouts came out.


Some new tape I'm trying and a single screw reliably holds the top and bottom together.


Here it is next to a print from two weeks ago. Amazing what a bed plate and some belt tightening can do.


And here it is next to my current keypads. It's smaller in every dimension!

New 4K keypad
Dimensions: 32mm x 92mm x 15mm


No keycaps


Smooth as a baby's bottom

Pros and Cons of using 3D printed cases:

Pros
No more cutting by hand
Machine precision
Cheaper (sort of)
Complete control over dimensions
Complete control over components (no more big panel-mount side buttons)
Color
Very easy to change

Downsides?
Looks. That's about it. Most aspects are within my control, but they will never look as good as a molded part. Honestly though, I think they're looking pretty good right now and it doesn't bother me.
Time, prints take a while.


I'm hoping to have these models available by the beginning of September. There will be one last tiny batch of my current models since I still have some parts, so it'll be your last chance to pick one up until they're gone forever. I'm currently waiting on some more parts to come in, so the shop will be down for the next week.
The Gambler

Thnikk wrote:

-snip-
Thou hast finally joineth teh 4k race xD.

Also pretty sure you can print batches of the same parts, so that should save on time.
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