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Topic Starter
Thnikk
7/21 Update
Everything is back up on the shop except for the RGB model, which I'm waiting on for more parts as well as some bug fixes and internal alterations to make things easier. It should be back up by Thursday or Friday.

Terran SCV wrote:

Bought a keypad (Tomoko Kuroki, account was closed cause I forgot this original one existed lol), and I'm absolutely loving it. I put in a review under the name 박지수 on Etsy. Very great product.
Thanks a lot for the review and I'm happy you like it so much! Thanks also for, despite your disposition, giving the tape a fair shake.
ChokeMeister

Thnikk wrote:

Shizuyi wrote:

What about Basic and BAsic +? WHat makes em worse than RGB or v2.1?
The 125hz polling rate instead of the 1000hz found on the RGB and v2.1. Other than that, no backlighting and no escape button on the basic.
Will the 125hz polling rate make a difference on accuracy while playing osu? Especially for OD 10
Explosive Fart
i got it but i dont have any keys...
Explosive Fart
keyswitches i mean
ZenithPhantasm
A little something I made with a little help from thnikk

Going clockwise from top left: MX Reds with Gateron stems, MX Blues, MX Gateron Skyblues (custom switch :) ), Gateron Clears, and MX Blacks.
All of the switches uses Cherry's contacts, not Gateron's
I do not plan to sell these
Topic Starter
Thnikk

CoalMiner107 wrote:

Will the 125hz polling rate make a difference on accuracy while playing osu? Especially for OD 10
It does make a difference but I'm not sure when it comes into play. I think it's been mentioned in the thread if you want to look back a few pages.

thebeastbloc wrote:

keyswitches i mean
I think you mean keycaps. No keyswitches would look like this:


This is because you selected "none" as your keycaps.

You can buy them through my shop (though shipping will be expensive,) or try to get them from someone in your country. I'm not familiar with sellers in Australia but you can check out the wiki on the mechanical keyboards subreddit or ask there if you don't find anything.

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

A little something I made with a little help from thnikk

Going clockwise from top left: MX Reds with Gateron stems, MX Blues, MX Gateron Skyblues (custom switch :) ), Gateron Clears, and MX Blacks.
All of the switches uses Cherry's contacts, not Gateron's
I do not plan to sell these
Glad I could help ;)
[Aiko]
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Topic Starter
Thnikk
The RGB model went back up about an hour ago. This is a new revision which I'm differentiating with the (1.1) in the title for people who want to reprogram their keypad. Here are the changes:

-The LEDs have been changed from regular SMD 5050 RGB LEDs to WS2812B. The originals I was using used 3 pins per led, each to control an individual RGB value. The new ones use one pin for data across both LEDs, reducing the require PWM outputs of the microcontroller from 6 to 1. The new LEDs also look a little bit better, producing whiter whites than before.

-The microcontroller has been changed from the Teensy LC to Pro Micro. Since the required PWM pins decreased, there was no reason to continue using the Teensy LC.

-The position of the LEDs has moved down from under the stem to under the contacts. This is just for mounting, since it's significantly easier to work with than it was before.


The bright spot shown on camera does help give you an idea, but it's not indicative of what it looks like in person. I would say the top of the switch looks darker, not that the bottom of the switch looks noticeably brighter. I will say that the lighting was a bit more uniform before, but moving the LEDs was such a huge help and the new LEDs look a little better so I'm sticking with this now.

-The price has gone down by $1. I know, not huge savings, but still a little bit cheaper!

CelticDog wrote:

So, I bought the RGB model with clears and figured I'd make a test play video. I think its pretty cool! ^^

[video]
Thanks for the video, I'll add it to the playlist. Glad you like it :)
Basdi

Nice work!!! (Arrived@Germany)

Greeting from Germany
Sebastian J.

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An alle Deutschen die sich dieses Keypad kaufen wollen,
es kann durchaus sein das Ihr zum Zoll wie Ich rennen müsst da dieses Gerät versteuert werden muss. (Mehrwertsteuer*)
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Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 7/31/15

The shop will be down for about a week while I wait for parts to come back in.

I'm working on rewriting the code for the RGB (1.1 specifically, but the 1.0 model as well in the future) to add some cool lighting effects involving brightness change. I also have some ideas for the v2(.1) so I'd like to rewrite everything, but there's only so many hours in a day so it may take a while. At the very least, I'm hoping to get the RGB done in my downtime so if you have one you can have something to look forward to.

I'm also trying to get something else that will be a cool option for people. It's nothing crazy, but I don't want to spoil the surprise.
ToransuShoujo
I ordered one before your store went down for restocking. Im really excited to get it, especially since my Z and X keys on my current keyboard broke. Thanks!
MeanDeer
The tape on the bottom of my keypad has worn out and no longer sticks. Should I buy more? If so, where can I find them?
Topic Starter
Thnikk

MeanDeer wrote:

The tape on the bottom of my keypad has worn out and no longer sticks. Should I buy more? If so, where can I find them?
How long have you had it? Have you cleaned it yet?
MeanDeer
I've had it for about two months. I washed the tape once after it got dirty.
Yarissa
Hey, I'm actually curious if you PCB/ solder mount these, since I'd like to try interchanging my own switches on these
ZenithPhantasm

Kaoru wrote:

Hey, I'm actually curious if you PCB/ solder mount these, since I'd like to try interchanging my own switches on these
I think you mean PCB or plate mount. Im 99.9% sure Thnikk uses PCB mounted switches.
-Raiz
how much is this keypad+shipping ? cuz its out of stock on the website
Topic Starter
Thnikk

MeanDeer wrote:

I've had it for about two months. I washed the tape once after it got dirty.
You should be able to wash it again and again and still be okay. If they do ever wear out after repeatedly cleaning them, all you have to look for is Scotch Restickable Tabs at your local office supply store. I use the 1x1" ones cut in half, but the 1/2"x1/2" ones would work too, just not as well. If you can't find them in any store or don't have any office supply stores near you, you can get a value pack on Walmart's website for around $5 with 27 tabs.

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

Kaoru wrote:

Hey, I'm actually curious if you PCB/ solder mount these, since I'd like to try interchanging my own switches on these
I think you mean PCB or plate mount. Im 99.9% sure Thnikk uses PCB mounted switches.
The switches themselves are pcb-mount but they're closer to plate-mounted. If you wanted to replace the switches, all you should need is your switches, a soldering iron, and a hot glue gun. Since you'd need a soldering iron to remove pcb-mounted switches, I can't imagine you'd run into any problems ;)

It's not ideal for me to be gluing the switches in, but hot glue is VERY easy to remove with a little bit of rubbing alcohol and a hot glue gun only costs ~$2.50 at most craft stores, so I'd rather have them solid on the unit than try to cut my cases with machine precision (by hand,) especially considering how easy it is to replace.

danteelesh wrote:

how much is this keypad+shipping ? cuz its out of stock on the website
Prices are available here for now: [link]

For all of the models that say keycaps aren't included in price, it's $1 for the white or red & blue DSA keycaps and goes up to I believe $8 for doubleshot keypop keycaps.

Edit: Shipping also not included which is $5 to the US and $10 everywhere else.
-Raiz

danteelesh wrote:

how much is this keypad+shipping ? cuz its out of stock on the website
Prices are available here for now: [link]

For all of the models that say keycaps aren't included in price, it's $1 for the white or red & blue DSA keycaps and goes up to I believe $8 for doubleshot keypop keycaps.

Edit: Shipping also not included which is $5 to the US and $10 everywhere else.[/quote]



when will you restock the keypads ?
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Brightness can now be changed on the RGB 1.1 between 20 and 100%!
Still contemplating whether I want to leave the option on every LED mode besides custom or not. It's changed the same way colors are changed on custom, but I might make the LEDs white to show the brightness after the two blinks, then back to normal when the side button is released. This way it can be available on all of them without any confusion as to the current brightness which can come up on the BPM mode, since no keys are detected as being pressed. Most of what I said probably sounds like gibberish but if one person who owns one understands, good enough.

The code will be updated on the website tomorrow after I work out the last kink. The change will also be made to the original RGB hopefully within the next few days unless I get terribly busy, but it will still be top priority regardless.

-Raiz wrote:

when will you restock the keypads ?
We already talked in-game but for anyone else interested I'm hoping to be back up tomorrow or Saturday, depending on when the last parts I need come in. It should be tomorrow.
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Hello everyone! Time for a small update since I haven't made a post in over a week.

Update 8/15/15
I restocked on Gateron clears and got some Gateron blues in for the first time. After playing with them for a bit, I do really like them. It's hard to say if I think they're better for osu than Cherry's since I don't think any tactile switches make much sense considering how violently people slam their keys down, but I do think they feel better. The slightly higher actuation point and the characteristic smoothness of Gateron switches really doesn't make them a pleasure to use, albeit maybe better on an actual keyboard. If you are interested in blues on a keypad though, this is definitely a nice addition to the current switch lineup!

Keypads are down again. I'm waiting on microcontrollers for the v2.1 and RGB that should come in by around Wednesday as well as black cases that should be in around the same time. If anyone noticed, I did add an option for a white case, which I'll be changing a bit. Etsy limits you to two variations per listing (which is currently occupied by switches and keycaps on most of my models,) so I'm going to have black and white as different listings. The only problem here is that I need product shots which I need actual units for first, so I'm hoping to have time for that tomorrow after I finish today's orders and get white versions of the basic and basic+ up by Monday.

Brightness change for RGB 1.0 is still in the works but hopefully I'll have a little bit of time to work on it tomorrow and the code for the 1.1 hasn't gone up yet, but I'll do my best to get it up either today or tomorrow. Sorry to anyone that may have been waiting, I'll edit this post once I've done it. All keypads since my last post have shipped with the update, but I'd like to add some documentation to the shop page as well as the website.

tl;dr Gateron blues are nice and white models of everything are coming.

Edit: Updated code for the RGB 1.1 is up on the site now.
ChokeMeister
Hello, I've been playing osu! on a laptop keyboard for about 10 months now and am currently at 13k. I am pretty good for a laptop user but my streaming and singletap stamina and accuracy is so horrible compared to my aim that it is holding me back a lot. I have been looking at these for quite a while and I am planning on purchasing one very soon! It is quite expensive, ~$30 for 2 keys and a button, but I understand that it's a homemade item and it takes time, effort, and labor to make each individual one. I just don't want to spend $100-200 on a full mechanical keyboard, so I am going with one of these! Plus a keyboard won't fit on my desk with my laptop here, so I don't really have a choice :D . But yeah, product looks great, quality, the reviews are great, can't wait to get one of these!
iTurret
I've ordered a Basic+ with cherry reds and i'm waiting for the keypad to be delivered to germany :D Can't wait to finally be able to try how mx reds feel :P
quattro cani

hammerschuss wrote:

I've ordered a Basic+ with cherry reds and i'm waiting for the keypad to be delivered to germany :D Can't wait to finally be able to try how mx reds feel :P
Did you buy it today? I'm also looking for one but it seems to be out of stock.
Topic Starter
Thnikk

SLG3 wrote:

Did you buy it today? I'm also looking for one but it seems to be out of stock.
All models should be back up tomorrow (but waiting on keycaps so the variety might be a little limited for the next week.)
NyteShadows
Just ordered a Basic+ with MX Reds as well! Excited for them to get here! 8-)
Wasn't excited about Canada's terrible exchange rate though LOL
-Makishima S-
Hi Thnikk,

I tryed to contact with you via your contact form on web but maybe something went wrong.
My question is - it is possible to you to make bigger spread on keypad for player who use Ring + Index finger?
Checked on normal mechanical keyboard and using normal spread z/x hurts, i still need to use z/c or a/d.

Thanks for feedback.
Keep up great job sir!
Topic Starter
Thnikk

NyteShadows wrote:

Just ordered a Basic+ with MX Reds as well! Excited for them to get here! 8-)
Wasn't excited about Canada's terrible exchange rate though LOL
I actually saw it a few days ago and ouch, I'm sorry.


[Taiga] wrote:

Hi Thnikk,

I tryed to contact with you via your contact form on web but maybe something went wrong.
My question is - it is possible to you to make bigger spread on keypad for player who use Ring + Index finger?
Checked on normal mechanical keyboard and using normal spread z/x hurts, i still need to use z/c or a/d.

Thanks for feedback.
Keep up great job sir!
Sorry, I got that message at a very busy time but that contact form does work. PMed! :)
Mr MuZhiE

SomeLoli wrote:

PremiumRich wrote:

PS/2 connectors are pretty old and modern machines don't have them.
what? all modern machines have them. Even Asus lastest version of its Rampage Extreme range has a ps/2 port
i got the v2.1 one but there were no drivers. can someone send me some? (sorry for bothering just you im new to forums xD)
Mr MuZhiE
I got the v2.1 keypad and it didnt have the drivers :C could someone plz send me like a link or anything? :D
-stratosphere-
I got the keynoard today and i am more than happy with it, keep up the good work !!
Topic Starter
Thnikk
The shop is still down until either later today or tomorrow. Just trying to work out some logistical stuff before I put everything back up.

Mr MuZhiE wrote:

I got the v2.1 keypad and it didnt have the drivers :C could someone plz send me like a link or anything? :D
Sorry for taking so long to respond to you on Etsy! There are no drivers and I've messaged you with all of the information you should need.

-stratosphere- wrote:

I got the keynoard today and i am more than happy with it, keep up the good work !!
Thank you, glad you like it! :)
Acme Deizd Void
Can't wait to buy it :D
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 8/31
Keypads are back up with white models added to the shop!



Nothing else but maybe stuff in the works ;)
ChokeMeister
Hey Thnikk, I sent you a PM. Please read it :)
Camimaou
Hey, what's the difference between Basic & 1.1 version of the keyboard, please ?
Topic Starter
Thnikk

-[CoalMiester]- wrote:

Hey Thnikk, I sent you a PM. Please read it :)
I did at least read it when i read the post, it just took a while to respond :P

Again, sorry for the late reply!

Camimaou wrote:

Hey, what's the difference between Basic & 1.1 version of the keyboard, please ?
I'd just like to clarify at the beginning here that the keypads are not ordered numerically. They go in this order, from least to most features:

Basic: A simple 2-key keypad with a polling rate of 125hz.

Basic+: A simple 2-key keypad with a side button for pausing your game with a polling rate of 125hz (side button is remappable.)

v2.1: Same as the basic+ but with white LEDs with 5 different LED modes. It also has a polling rate of 1000hz instead of 125hz like the cheaper models.

RGB (1.1): Same as the v2.1 but with RGB lighting instead of white.


The .x is the revision number so you know what code to use on my website. You can check out and compare the LED modes between the two models from this page here: [link]
nebbii
how much for a 7+1k or 14key one
Miralyn
When is the shop coming back up? Labor day weekend is over
Topic Starter
Thnikk
The shop will be down indefinitely. Just trying to work out some life stuff and I don't have a whole lot of time to work on keypads. I do hope to have it up soon though, hoping within the next week.

nebbii wrote:

how much for a 7+1k or 14key one
I've said I was interested in doing this in the past, but I think it's just too much work for me with the way things are set up. Not within the near future.

Miralyn wrote:

When is the shop coming back up? Labor day weekend is over
Sorry, I know it's way past labor day now. I'll update the thread and the shop page.
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