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thnikk's Osu! Keypads [Development]

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ZenithPhantasm

Magicrider wrote:

Hey thnikk, your keyboards seems really cool; I'd like to buy one but I have some questions to ask because I don't want to waste my money stupidly:

Is 8ms a too high latency to play Osu? I'm actually playing Osu since 4 months ~~ with my laptop, I would like to have mechanical switches since a long time and I don't want to buy a 200$ keyboard, so this would be the best for me. But I don't know what really 8ms represents in Osu!, and I can't buy the keyboard v2.1 because I don't have a micro usb port on my laptop and I can't find any adaptator.. I don't even know how much latency there is on a true mech keyboard.

Can someone tell me, is 8ms latency a real problem to play or this is not even noticeable ? Thanks :)
Unless you're playing AR11 no. Just change your offset to like -8 ms.
autoteleology

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

Magicrider wrote:

Just change your offset to like -8 ms.
This does nothing whatsoever to solve the problem. Having a polling rate of 125Hz means the input is sampled anywhere from 0-8ms late. All you've done is (a desync the music and b) make the input poll exactly the same on a different polling period.

Don't buy the cheap keypads. Get the two more expensive ones because they poll at 1000Hz. Buy this. http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Product ... 317&cpnCd=
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Thnikk

Magicrider wrote:

Hey thnikk, your keyboards seems really cool; I'd like to buy one but I have some questions to ask because I don't want to waste my money stupidly:

Is 8ms a too high latency to play Osu? I'm actually playing Osu since 4 months ~~ with my laptop, I would like to have mechanical switches since a long time and I don't want to buy a 200$ keyboard, so this would be the best for me. But I don't know what really 8ms represents in Osu!, and I can't buy the keyboard v2.1 because I don't have a micro usb port on my laptop and I can't find any adaptator.. I don't even know how much latency there is on a true mech keyboard.

Can someone tell me, is 8ms latency a real problem to play or this is not even noticeable ? Thanks :)
I would say Zenith is right regardless of offset. If you're serious about the game and want to be in the top ~10k, the investment in a v2.1 is probably worth it. If not, you will probably never notice.

Also consider that if you're playing with laptop keys right now, you'll probably improve a lot regardless of model. If you feel like your growth is slow at this point, it may speed up after you get one. This may encourage you to set a higher goal for yourself, so the 1000hz models seem better for you since you're already at 50k.

Also, all of my keypads come with a USB cable. The interface on the keypad itself is micro-USB but a micro-USB to USB cable is included. All you need is a USB port ;)
ninjastarr
ordered an RGB yesterday, expecting great things~

also i might review it but dont hold me to this
Magicrider

Thnikk wrote:

Also, all of my keypads come with a USB cable. The interface on the keypad itself is micro-USB but a micro-USB to USB cable is included. All you need is a USB port ;)
Oh, okay!
Thanks for your answers guys; I was thinking about buying the cheaper ones because on the description of basic keypads, it says "6 foot micro USB to USB" and in the v2.1 keypad, it only says "6 foot micro USB"; I thought you needed some micro USB port on your computer so that's why I watched the basic versions.
Anyway, thank you, I'm going to buy the v2.1 keypad in the next days, seems really nice :)
samotoda
What is the location of keycaps you selected? if I want to use my own custom keycaps, what is the location of them?
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Thnikk

ninjastarr wrote:

ordered an RGB yesterday, expecting great things~

also i might review it but dont hold me to this
A review would be great ;)

samotoda wrote:

What is the location of keycaps you selected? if I want to use my own custom keycaps, what is the location of them?
Do you mean the location on the keyboard? As far as I know, the metric is inconsistent since some manufacturers would say row 1 and some would say row 4, but they're all row 1 according to the chart from signature plastics here.
Elric
one thing you can look forward aswell is other payment methods, not everyone has a visa to get one ://
ZenithPhantasm
Accurian
Really wanted to get the RGB variant, but they didn't have the switches I preferred.
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Thnikk

Elric wrote:

one thing you can look forward aswell is other payment methods, not everyone has a visa to get one ://
Sorry, but credit card + paypal is the best I can do. If something like PSC was more ubiquitous here in the US I'd be more willing to accept it, but as it is it's like giving me foreign currency.

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

Can't go wrong with these.
I do really like these. I was planning on adding them to the shop once everything calms down a few months ago but it never did. Thanks for reminding me ;)

Accurian wrote:

Really wanted to get the RGB variant, but they didn't have the switches I preferred.
What would those be? I plan on getting blues and more clears with the next Gateron drop (whenever that happens, request here if you want them sooner.)
Accurian
What would those be? I plan on getting blues and more clears with the next Gateron drop (whenever that happens, request here if you want them sooner.)
I'm not sure if it's possible to have Cherry Blue switches on the RGB version, but I've actually purchased a v2.1 already so it's too late for that now. :P
Magicrider
Hey thnikk, just ordered my v2.1 keypad yesterday; I took the 8 bit keycaps but I saw today that they are out of stock, I was wondering if I took the last ones or if I have to choose another one? Because it's not shipped yet :/
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Thnikk
Just a small update:

I completely rewrote the website so some links previously posted may be broken since some pages were renamed. All pages still exist. I also added a button and floating box for contact instead of a dedicated page on the website. I'm not using a fixed header anymore and I don't want people to have to scroll to the bottom of the page to find the page.

There are some other site/guide related things I'm going to try to work on in my spare time between my overwhelming amount of orders :?

Accurian wrote:

What would those be? I plan on getting blues and more clears with the next Gateron drop (whenever that happens, request here if you want them sooner.)
I'm not sure if it's possible to have Cherry Blue switches on the RGB version, but I've actually purchased a v2.1 already so it's too late for that now. :P
Unfortunately it isn't possible since the RGB requires the transparent housing of the Gateron switches. Maybe if Cherry would just release their RGB switches for everyone... nah, that'll never happen.

Magicrider wrote:

Hey thnikk, just ordered my v2.1 keypad yesterday; I took the 8 bit keycaps but I saw today that they are out of stock, I was wondering if I took the last ones or if I have to choose another one? Because it's not shipped yet :/
You're fine, you got the last ones :)
ZenithPhantasm

Thnikk wrote:

Accurian wrote:

I'm not sure if it's possible to have Cherry Blue switches on the RGB version, but I've actually purchased a v2.1 already so it's too late for that now. :P
Unfortunately it isn't possible since the RGB requires the transparent housing of the Gateron switches. Maybe if Cherry would just release their RGB switches for everyone... nah, that'll never happen.
There's always Kailh switches which support RGB LEDs. It MIGHT be possible to replace the Kailh switch mechanism with Cherry's.
Tomoko Kuroki_old_1
Bought the basic keypad with clear Gateron switches. Expecting good things!

EDIT: How long will it take to ship to the east coast of Murica?
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Thnikk

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

There's always Kailh switches which support RGB LEDs. It MIGHT be possible to replace the Kailh switch mechanism with Cherry's.
I know for sure you can switch the mechanism in a Gateron switch, but it's not really worth the time to carefully swap out internals when it would be easy enough to mess something up and there's not enough of a difference between Cherry's switches and Gateron's.

I'm honestly not much of a fan of Kailh switches. I love Gaterons because they're smoother and have a clear housing, and otherwise are physically identical to a Cherry switch. Kailh switches aren't 100% identical and they don't really bring anything new to the table (except for RGB LEDs, but nothing new compared to Gaterons.)

My keypads are also made as a video game peripheral, not a keyboard. The RGB LED mounting on Kailh switches makes more sense for a keyboard since you are just trying to illuminate the legends on the top of the keycap, but mine are more of an arcade-style controller. Since you can see the entire switch, it's a much nicer visual effect to have the entire switch glow evenly rather than having one really bright point above the stem.

Tomoko Kuroki wrote:

Bought the basic keypad with clear Gateron switches. Expecting good things!

EDIT: How long will it take to ship to the east coast of Murica?
Usually about 5-7 days after it's been shipped. Yours will be out Monday morning :)
[ Ash ]
Bought v2.1 can't wait ^.^

hopefully it dosen't slide around to much thoo?
[Aiko]
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[ Ash ]
Do i need to change the tape after like a week or so? or will it stay sticky for long period of time?

Thxnks for the help <3
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