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A lot of people have had this idea before thnikk even began to play osu!. The idea was not stolen. This thread is 5 months old. Peppy showing everyone the osu!keyboard in this video is 10 months old: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOLnWUeRovwdisfunny wrote:
feel like they kinda stole your idea :/
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People had the idea 5 years ago? Did they do anything with that idea? I never claimed to have come up with the magical idea of a 2 key keyboard, I just started making them for people because I figured they were interested since I was so interested.FieryLight wrote:
A lot of people have had this idea before thnikk even began to play osu!. The idea was not stolen. This thread is 5 months old. Peppy showing everyone the osu!keyboard in this video is 10 months old: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOLnWUeRovwdisfunny wrote:
feel like they kinda stole your idea :/
I definitely wouldn't say the idea was stolen by any means, but I do find it convenient that the "official" keypad goes up for sale after I test the market. I do welcome competition, though
Also shipped out this morning!lanour wrote:
Very cool. I ordered one with Gateron clears. I'm looking forward to it!
This looks fantastic! If I ordered an RGB right this second would this mode come in a software patch or would I have to buy another?Thnikk wrote:
So I did this today:
[video]
I'm planning on adding it as another lighting effect, but I'd like another day or two for testing/tweaking.
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All my orders from after 12 today and tomorrow aren't going to be shipped out until Monday morning, so if it's ready by Sunday it'll come by default. If not, it'll be available with a patch that's pretty easy to install. If you want to look over the process, the guide is here: [link]Kaspar wrote:
This looks fantastic! If I ordered an RGB right this second would this mode come in a software patch or would I have to buy another?Thnikk wrote:
So I did this today:
[video]
I'm planning on adding it as another lighting effect, but I'd like another day or two for testing/tweaking.
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Oh, my bad. I could've sworn I saw 2 years on your profile >< But yeah, I do think a lot of people have come up with this idea on their own but never actually went on to make them. And certainly you were the first to mass produce them for others. But really, it's not nice to shame them since they did clearly show that this was coming long agoThnikk wrote:
People had the idea 5 years ago? Did they do anything with that idea? I never claimed to have come up with the magical idea of a 2 key keyboard, I just started making them for people because I figured they were interested since I was so interested.
I definitely wouldn't say the idea was stolen by any means, but I do find it convenient that the "official" keypad goes up for sale after I test the market. I do welcome competition, though
I want to order the RGB osu! Keypad but I'm having trouble picking which gateron switch I should use.
Is gateron clear the best choice?
Currently using razer green switches, 50g
Is gateron clear the best choice?
Currently using razer green switches, 50g
If you prefer the razer switches, I believe that the gateron blues are the ones most similar to razer greens; gateron browns being similar to razer orange. Gateron clears are the one similar to red switches if I recall. I haven't personally tested them yet; only read them from sites.
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They shouldn't really be compared to Razer switches at all. Most keyboard enthusiasts prefer Gateron switches over cherry mx.The Gambler wrote:
If you prefer the razer switches, I believe that the gateron blues are the ones most similar to razer greens; gateron browns being similar to razer orange. Gateron clears are the one similar to red switches if I recall. I haven't personally tested them yet; only read them from sites.
Just recommending the closest switch in terms of functionality/type. I'm not necessarily comparing them in terms of feel and performance.RedPanda wrote:
They shouldn't really be compared to Razer switches at all. Most keyboard enthusiasts prefer Gateron switches over cherry mx.
OT: Are Matias switches also worth exploring? I've played with a friend's Quiet Pro keyboard and they are surprisingly tactile.
I see, thanks for the feedback.
I certainly prefer a tactile feel for my keyboard switches.
To those who own gateron clears, do they give a tactile kind of feel? Some say they're linear and others say they're tactile.
I certainly prefer a tactile feel for my keyboard switches.
To those who own gateron clears, do they give a tactile kind of feel? Some say they're linear and others say they're tactile.
ZenithPhantasm
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I'm not trying to shame anyone, I just said it was convenient. There was the video before I started this and I thought it looked really cool, but it wasn't in existence and I wanted one so I made my own. People said they were interested so I started selling them. There was no talk of actually starting any sort of production (as far as I could see) until after I sold a decent amount. It makes sense for someone to be more willing to invest in something knowing it would be successful, there's no shame to be had there.FieryLight wrote:
Oh, my bad. I could've sworn I saw 2 years on your profile >< But yeah, I do think a lot of people have come up with this idea on their own but never actually went on to make them. And certainly you were the first to mass produce them for others. But really, it's not nice to shame them since they did clearly show that this was coming long ago
Also, I'm not really mass producing. All of my keypads are made by hand.
Yup. For anyone who wants the info on Gateron switches, this is from Massdrop:ZenithPhantasm wrote:
Linear and smoother than reds.bolt997 wrote:
I see, thanks for the feedback.
I certainly prefer a tactile feel for my keyboard switches.
To those who own gateron clears, do they give a tactile kind of feel? Some say they're linear and others say they're tactile.
Peak force:
Blacks - 50g Linear
Blues - 55g Clicky
Clears - 35g Linear
Browns - 45g Tactile
Reds - 45g Linear
Yellows - 50g Linear
They all feel smoother, too. It's most noticeable on lighter switches since there's less resistance.
If I was going to buy one of these, would you be willing/able to put some kind of weight in mine? I watched the test video and I saw the keypad wobbling all over the place.
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Was it Kev's video? He stuck it to his mousepad so it was pretty shaky, but if you stick it directly to your desk it shouldn't move around at all. The one I sent him was before I started using the tape I use right now. It was way too strong at the time and I think took some paint off his table so he stuck it to his mousepad. I've since switched to Scotch Restickable Tabs that stick well (but not too well to take paint off) and they can be cleaned.Philosofikal wrote:
If I was going to buy one of these, would you be willing/able to put some kind of weight in mine? I watched the test video and I saw the keypad wobbling all over the place.
How often can you reattach and clean the tape? Since if i would buy one i would do it multiple times a day?
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I would rate it at twice a day for a month before the first time you should have to clean it as long as you're putting it on a clean surface. You can extrapolate from there, so if you doubled it you'd probably have to clean it for the first time a few weeks after you got it.Shizuyi wrote:
How often can you reattach and clean the tape? Since if i would buy one i would do it multiple times a day?
It seems like after cleaning it the first time you do have to do it more frequently to get the same effect, but not to the degree of eventually having to do it every day. My friend has had a keypad that he's been using for the past few months and moves it multiple times a day, and he doesn't need to clean it more than about once a week. Of course, eventually replacing them would be better, but he's told me he doesn't think he'll have to replace them anytime soon.
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Small update 6/11:
BPM lighting effect added to the RGB keypad.
[link] Gif added to RGB page
[link] Code on remapping page updated to 1.1 and a changelog was added
For anyone who's ordered an RGB keypad, you all get the new LED mode. I made the change late Sunday night and everything was shipped out Monday morning.
BPM lighting effect added to the RGB keypad.
[link] Gif added to RGB page
[link] Code on remapping page updated to 1.1 and a changelog was added
For anyone who's ordered an RGB keypad, you all get the new LED mode. I made the change late Sunday night and everything was shipped out Monday morning.
Got my keypad in the mail today!
Smoothest switch I've ever used, and awesome build quality as well.
Decided to make an (awful) video of my first impression/review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRkpvaiRt0
Reddit thread if you care about that stuff.
http://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comment ... mpression/
Smoothest switch I've ever used, and awesome build quality as well.
Decided to make an (awful) video of my first impression/review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRkpvaiRt0
Reddit thread if you care about that stuff.
http://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comment ... mpression/
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The video is perfect because you said my name perfectly!Kaas wrote:
Got my keypad in the mail today!
Smoothest switch I've ever used, and awesome build quality as well.
Decided to make an (awful) video of my first impression/review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRkpvaiRt0
Reddit thread if you care about that stuff.
http://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comment ... mpression/
Video added to the OP. Thanks for posting on Reddit, too. Sharing really helps me a lot.
I'm Probably just going to add a link to a playlist soon, it's getting too long with all of the videos now (which is a good thing.)
Hey thnikk, your keyboards seems really cool; I'd like to buy one but I have some questions to ask because I don't want to waste my money stupidly:
Is 8ms a too high latency to play Osu? I'm actually playing Osu since 4 months ~~ with my laptop, I would like to have mechanical switches since a long time and I don't want to buy a 200$ keyboard, so this would be the best for me. But I don't know what really 8ms represents in Osu!, and I can't buy the keyboard v2.1 because I don't have a micro usb port on my laptop and I can't find any adaptator.. I don't even know how much latency there is on a true mech keyboard.
Can someone tell me, is 8ms latency a real problem to play or this is not even noticeable ? Thanks
Is 8ms a too high latency to play Osu? I'm actually playing Osu since 4 months ~~ with my laptop, I would like to have mechanical switches since a long time and I don't want to buy a 200$ keyboard, so this would be the best for me. But I don't know what really 8ms represents in Osu!, and I can't buy the keyboard v2.1 because I don't have a micro usb port on my laptop and I can't find any adaptator.. I don't even know how much latency there is on a true mech keyboard.
Can someone tell me, is 8ms latency a real problem to play or this is not even noticeable ? Thanks
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Unless you're playing AR11 no. Just change your offset to like -8 ms.Magicrider wrote:
Hey thnikk, your keyboards seems really cool; I'd like to buy one but I have some questions to ask because I don't want to waste my money stupidly:
Is 8ms a too high latency to play Osu? I'm actually playing Osu since 4 months ~~ with my laptop, I would like to have mechanical switches since a long time and I don't want to buy a 200$ keyboard, so this would be the best for me. But I don't know what really 8ms represents in Osu!, and I can't buy the keyboard v2.1 because I don't have a micro usb port on my laptop and I can't find any adaptator.. I don't even know how much latency there is on a true mech keyboard.
Can someone tell me, is 8ms latency a real problem to play or this is not even noticeable ? Thanks
This does nothing whatsoever to solve the problem. Having a polling rate of 125Hz means the input is sampled anywhere from 0-8ms late. All you've done is (a desync the music and b) make the input poll exactly the same on a different polling period.ZenithPhantasm wrote:
Magicrider wrote:
Just change your offset to like -8 ms.
Don't buy the cheap keypads. Get the two more expensive ones because they poll at 1000Hz. Buy this. http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Product ... 317&cpnCd=
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I would say Zenith is right regardless of offset. If you're serious about the game and want to be in the top ~10k, the investment in a v2.1 is probably worth it. If not, you will probably never notice.Magicrider wrote:
Hey thnikk, your keyboards seems really cool; I'd like to buy one but I have some questions to ask because I don't want to waste my money stupidly:
Is 8ms a too high latency to play Osu? I'm actually playing Osu since 4 months ~~ with my laptop, I would like to have mechanical switches since a long time and I don't want to buy a 200$ keyboard, so this would be the best for me. But I don't know what really 8ms represents in Osu!, and I can't buy the keyboard v2.1 because I don't have a micro usb port on my laptop and I can't find any adaptator.. I don't even know how much latency there is on a true mech keyboard.
Can someone tell me, is 8ms latency a real problem to play or this is not even noticeable ? Thanks
Also consider that if you're playing with laptop keys right now, you'll probably improve a lot regardless of model. If you feel like your growth is slow at this point, it may speed up after you get one. This may encourage you to set a higher goal for yourself, so the 1000hz models seem better for you since you're already at 50k.
Also, all of my keypads come with a USB cable. The interface on the keypad itself is micro-USB but a micro-USB to USB cable is included. All you need is a USB port
ordered an RGB yesterday, expecting great things~
also i might review it but dont hold me to this
also i might review it but dont hold me to this
Oh, okay!Thnikk wrote:
Also, all of my keypads come with a USB cable. The interface on the keypad itself is micro-USB but a micro-USB to USB cable is included. All you need is a USB port
Thanks for your answers guys; I was thinking about buying the cheaper ones because on the description of basic keypads, it says "6 foot micro USB to USB" and in the v2.1 keypad, it only says "6 foot micro USB"; I thought you needed some micro USB port on your computer so that's why I watched the basic versions.
Anyway, thank you, I'm going to buy the v2.1 keypad in the next days, seems really nice
What is the location of keycaps you selected? if I want to use my own custom keycaps, what is the location of them?
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A review would be greatninjastarr wrote:
ordered an RGB yesterday, expecting great things~
also i might review it but dont hold me to this
Do you mean the location on the keyboard? As far as I know, the metric is inconsistent since some manufacturers would say row 1 and some would say row 4, but they're all row 1 according to the chart from signature plastics here.samotoda wrote:
What is the location of keycaps you selected? if I want to use my own custom keycaps, what is the location of them?
one thing you can look forward aswell is other payment methods, not everyone has a visa to get one ://
ZenithPhantasm
Really wanted to get the RGB variant, but they didn't have the switches I preferred.
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Sorry, but credit card + paypal is the best I can do. If something like PSC was more ubiquitous here in the US I'd be more willing to accept it, but as it is it's like giving me foreign currency.Elric wrote:
one thing you can look forward aswell is other payment methods, not everyone has a visa to get one ://
I do really like these. I was planning on adding them to the shop once everything calms down a few months ago but it never did. Thanks for reminding meZenithPhantasm wrote:
Can't go wrong with these.
What would those be? I plan on getting blues and more clears with the next Gateron drop (whenever that happens, request here if you want them sooner.)Accurian wrote:
Really wanted to get the RGB variant, but they didn't have the switches I preferred.
What would those be? I plan on getting blues and more clears with the next Gateron drop (whenever that happens, request here if you want them sooner.)I'm not sure if it's possible to have Cherry Blue switches on the RGB version, but I've actually purchased a v2.1 already so it's too late for that now.
Hey thnikk, just ordered my v2.1 keypad yesterday; I took the 8 bit keycaps but I saw today that they are out of stock, I was wondering if I took the last ones or if I have to choose another one? Because it's not shipped yet :/
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Just a small update:
I completely rewrote the website so some links previously posted may be broken since some pages were renamed. All pages still exist. I also added a button and floating box for contact instead of a dedicated page on the website. I'm not using a fixed header anymore and I don't want people to have to scroll to the bottom of the page to find the page.
There are some other site/guide related things I'm going to try to work on in my spare time between my overwhelming amount of orders
I completely rewrote the website so some links previously posted may be broken since some pages were renamed. All pages still exist. I also added a button and floating box for contact instead of a dedicated page on the website. I'm not using a fixed header anymore and I don't want people to have to scroll to the bottom of the page to find the page.
There are some other site/guide related things I'm going to try to work on in my spare time between my overwhelming amount of orders
Unfortunately it isn't possible since the RGB requires the transparent housing of the Gateron switches. Maybe if Cherry would just release their RGB switches for everyone... nah, that'll never happen.Accurian wrote:
What would those be? I plan on getting blues and more clears with the next Gateron drop (whenever that happens, request here if you want them sooner.)I'm not sure if it's possible to have Cherry Blue switches on the RGB version, but I've actually purchased a v2.1 already so it's too late for that now.
You're fine, you got the last onesMagicrider wrote:
Hey thnikk, just ordered my v2.1 keypad yesterday; I took the 8 bit keycaps but I saw today that they are out of stock, I was wondering if I took the last ones or if I have to choose another one? Because it's not shipped yet :/
ZenithPhantasm
There's always Kailh switches which support RGB LEDs. It MIGHT be possible to replace the Kailh switch mechanism with Cherry's.Thnikk wrote:
Unfortunately it isn't possible since the RGB requires the transparent housing of the Gateron switches. Maybe if Cherry would just release their RGB switches for everyone... nah, that'll never happen.Accurian wrote:
I'm not sure if it's possible to have Cherry Blue switches on the RGB version, but I've actually purchased a v2.1 already so it's too late for that now.
Tomoko Kuroki_old_1
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I know for sure you can switch the mechanism in a Gateron switch, but it's not really worth the time to carefully swap out internals when it would be easy enough to mess something up and there's not enough of a difference between Cherry's switches and Gateron's.ZenithPhantasm wrote:
There's always Kailh switches which support RGB LEDs. It MIGHT be possible to replace the Kailh switch mechanism with Cherry's.
I'm honestly not much of a fan of Kailh switches. I love Gaterons because they're smoother and have a clear housing, and otherwise are physically identical to a Cherry switch. Kailh switches aren't 100% identical and they don't really bring anything new to the table (except for RGB LEDs, but nothing new compared to Gaterons.)
My keypads are also made as a video game peripheral, not a keyboard. The RGB LED mounting on Kailh switches makes more sense for a keyboard since you are just trying to illuminate the legends on the top of the keycap, but mine are more of an arcade-style controller. Since you can see the entire switch, it's a much nicer visual effect to have the entire switch glow evenly rather than having one really bright point above the stem.
Usually about 5-7 days after it's been shipped. Yours will be out Monday morningTomoko Kuroki wrote:
Bought the basic keypad with clear Gateron switches. Expecting good things!
EDIT: How long will it take to ship to the east coast of Murica?