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Symacon wrote:

Well I couldn't find it there so that is why I am asking
Googling the right information is a skill of its own. Train on that.
http://thnikk.moe/keypad/models/
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I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
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Symacon wrote:

I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
I didn't either until Wikipedia told me. Praise peppy.
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Not sure why I only get email notifications of posts sometimes.

Update 11/15/16
I guess I should have said this 2 weks ago, but the release of the 4k keypad has been delayed. I would like to release it as soon as possible, but I still have some logistical stuff to sort out and I've been very busy. I'm pushing the ETA back to the end of this month, but I am trying to get it up as soon as possible.

Symacon wrote:

I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
Sorry about that, I used to work at a computer store that stocked micro usb type A and B so customers would always come to the counter with type A. I've felt the need to specify ever since, but most people don't know what the B means.



As you can see, A is no good since it won't physically fit (but B fits inside A making A cables useless.)

tl;dr it's just a regular micro usb port
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Thanks for clarifying that :D
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Update 7/13

Hello everyone! Since I haven't posted in a while, I thought I'd give a status report.

Absence
To start off, I've gotten another job and had less time to do development stuff. There is a reason for this, however, and I'm very close to getting a 3d printer now! For any of you that are curious, I was planning on getting the Printrbot Simple originally, but there Simple v2 comes out this month and I'm looking at that now.

3D Printer
So I've been talking about it a lot, but what does this mean for me any my shop?

Custom parts - This is the biggest thing for me. I'm still working on improving my Project Diva controller by adding things like the PS4 touchpad and analog sticks, but these are hard to add. Being able to make custom brackets would make this dead simple and inexpensive. Who knows what else I could make, the sky is the limit.

Custom cases - This I'm about 50/50 on. I don't want to compromise the quality of my keypads since the cases I've been using the same cases for a year and a half and they've been great and look pretty nice, but being able to print them would give me 100% flexibility of design and lighten my workload. I'll have to print one first to see how it looks, but this would be especially helpful for the 4k keypad since that's a lot of cutting and my hands aren't nearly as precise as a machine. This is the other reason I haven't finished the 4k keypad, since it would be a lot of work to go through all of the effort of taking pictures, writing descriptions, updating my website, taking shipping weight, etc. if I 'm just going to end up changing it in a month. It could also help with slimming them down a bit and helping mounting buttons internally so I don't have to use the panel mount side buttons anymore. Sorry to anyone that's been waiting, but I want to make the best thing I can. If you are still interested in a 4k keypad, PM me and we can work something out.
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This may seem like a stupid question but what is the weight of the keyboard. As if it is light it could be easily knocked around.
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Update 7/27/16

Keypad status
More parts are on the way and the shop will be back up on August 1st.


3D Printer
I got my 3d printer and it's great! I was finally able to finish my project diva controller:



I'm very excited for future projects and the potential for future keypads. I'll be posting more 3d printed stuff on twitter so follow me if you're interested.

reeman123 wrote:

This may seem like a stupid question but what is the weight of the keyboard. As if it is light it could be easily knocked around.
It weighs about 1 ounce. The keypad uses tape (scotch restickable tabs) to stick to your desk and keep it from moving around, and can be cleaned when it gets dirty. I am thinking about trying something new soon, though.
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The 4k one interests me if you can offer the rgbw version.
The only caveat I feel is the programmability. When not playing osu!, I'd love to have it act as a small macropad.
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Jau wrote:

The 4k one interests me if you can offer the rgbw version.
The only caveat I feel is the programmability. When not playing osu!, I'd love to have it act as a small macropad.
I haven't completely decided yet, but I'm leaning towards only offering an RGBW version. All of my keypads are completely reprogrammable. My remapping utility lets you remap the keys to any character-printing key, but you could set up macros pretty easily as long as you're willing to get your feet wet with Arduino programming a little bit. I could also help you out with it.


Update 8/23/16

Hello everyone! I know I haven't posted in a while and my shop is currently down, but this has been one of the busiest times in all of my time making keypads.

Thread changes
I've been told by moderation that my thread poses an issue in its current state.
I respect the decision of the osu staff. I'm not sure if this thread will still be around in a week, but I have been told that I can have a thread for development (so basically exactly what this thread is right now) but no promotion or anything of the sort. It's a slight shift, but I may need to make a new thread, no big deal. From now on, no sale related conversation will take place in the thread and links to my Etsy shop will be removed. Just visit my twitter instead ;)

As always, if you do decide to buy from me, consider contributing to the development of the game by becoming a supporter.


3D Printing

I have a new family!


So after about a year, I was finally able to pick up not just one but TWO printers! The Printrbot Play is on the left and the Printrbot Simple is on the right. It took a couple weeks of tweaking, but I'm finally satisfied with both the designs I've come up with and the print quality of the two printers. Now I can introduce what all of my effort of the past two months has gone into (and the project diva controller, but that was just for fun.)


New 2K keypad
SPOILER
Dimensions: 32mm x 52.5mm x 15mm


I'm really happy with how the new cutouts came out.


Some new tape I'm trying and a single screw reliably holds the top and bottom together.


Here it is next to a print from two weeks ago. Amazing what a bed plate and some belt tightening can do.


And here it is next to my current keypads. It's smaller in every dimension!


New 4K keypad
SPOILER
Dimensions: 32mm x 92mm x 15mm


No keycaps


Smooth as a baby's bottom


Pros and Cons of using 3D printed cases:

Pros
No more cutting by hand
Machine precision
Cheaper (sort of)
Complete control over dimensions
Complete control over components (no more big panel-mount side buttons)
Color
Very easy to change

Downsides?
Looks. That's about it. Most aspects are within my control, but they will never look as good as a molded part. Honestly though, I think they're looking pretty good right now and it doesn't bother me.
Time, prints take a while.


I'm hoping to have these models available by the beginning of September. There will be one last tiny batch of my current models since I still have some parts, so it'll be your last chance to pick one up until they're gone forever. I'm currently waiting on some more parts to come in, so the shop will be down for the next week.
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Thnikk wrote:

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Thou hast finally joineth teh 4k race xD.

Also pretty sure you can print batches of the same parts, so that should save on time.
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Update 9/13/16

Hello everyone! Since the thread is shifting more towards a more changelog-style format, I'll be trying to conform to that here. The new keypads are up on the shop and there is one addition to the lineup while one has been taken away.

All models...
now use 3D printed cases. It's been a log time coming, but they're finally here.
are smaller! 65 to 52 mm, 35 to 32 mm, and 20 to 15 mm.
have more accurate cutouts for the switches, micro-USB port, and side button.
use tactile switches instead of the previous panel-mount buttons. These are a bit lower profile and also give tactile feedback wen pressed.
use "suction tape" instead of the previous scotch restickable tabs. In my experience so far it's been a but more resilient and sticks to the keyboard side much better.

All models EXCEPT for the LED model...

can have their switches opened.

No model specific updates, but we can now welcome...

The 4K Keypad!


Thank you to everyone for their patience. I've been wanting to make this for a while now and was finally able to do it with my 3D printers.


Side Projects

There are also some other things I've been working on. Here is the Baka Mouse (name subject to change) and the 1K Keypad.



The Baka Mouse (name subject to change) is intended to imitate the trackpoint experience found on an IBM Thinkpad (no, not Lenovo with their clickpad.) It's meant to sit below your keyboard centered under your spacebar, so you can type and move your cursor without having to move your right hand (or left if you're a lefty) away from the keyboard. This is especially useful when programming or for anything keyboard intensive. It's a bit too tall right now and the buttons are too small, but I've been wanting to make this for about a year now so it's nice to finally have a prototype.

The 1K Keypad was made for someone who wanted to use my keypads for a cognitive science experiment. It doesn't exactly fit for osu, but I designed it so I may as well put it up on the shop! I'm still working out the kinks but that will be coming soon.


I also painted and reprinted some of the parts for my Project Diva controller. Not exactly sure where I'm going with this, but I'm happy to have it to play Future Tone. I do plan on adding some additional lighting effects with the analog sticks soon, but it's kind of low priority at this point.



For more info and updates, please follow me on twitter! [link]
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Thnikk wrote:

The 4K Keypad!
That 4K keypad looks *muwah* fantastic!!.. Sigh
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Wow the 4k keypad looks really good! Nice job on this!
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Update 11/21/16
Hello everyone! It's been a while since the last update so I just wanted to check in and say all is well. Sales have been good and though I haven't really talked much of new products lately, I definitely feel as though I'm continuing to refine both my 3D modeling/printing and programming skills. Speaking of no new products lately...

Macro Keypad

This was such a spur of the moment project. I got two similar requests -- an arrow key keypad and a 2x3 macro keypad. I had already modeled the arrow keypad when I got the macro request, so I thought one design would work fine for both and there's no downside to getting two extra keys.

The big feature here is that each key can be mapped to a key and up to two modifiers. That means you can use it to play osu or use as WASD or arrow keys, use it in conjunction with autohotkey and open programs or change your volume, the sky is the limit. This is definitely less of an osu specific keypad, but also allows for some more freedom that my 2k keypads don't offer if you'd like additional functionality. You could easily have it set up for z, x, smoke, up, down, and escape. You could even make one of the keys a modifier and reassign the keys in the game to take advantage of that.

Hopefully coming in early December!

Switch Opening Kit
Not much to say here but the parts are on the way! Hopefully also coming in early December. It will come with tweezers, a tool to keep one side of the switch open, and 2-6 switches.

Other Projects
The baka mouse is currently on hiatus as I've had more interesting projects lately. Getting natural-feeling mouse movement was much more difficult than I initially expected and I might be more interested in looking for an alternative to the PSP analog stick all togther. It is still something that I'd like to have though so it's definitely on the to-do list.

The 1K keypad is a great example of something that takes no time at all to work on which is the perfect excuse for not working on it. It's definitely not a priority though and I'd rather spend my time working on the macro keypad for now.

ReadTheDocs
I've wanted an official page for documentation for a while, and I think ReadTheDocs is perfect. I can update everything easily though GitHub and I don't have to waste my time trying to make it look clean and simple, so I can spend more time writing documentation. Check it out here! http://docs.thnikk.moe/

Code

With the code I've written for the macro keypad (the 4K too), I think I'm getting much better at writing clean and concise code. Since all of my keypads use the same microcontroller, there's no reason that I couldn't go back and add this serial remapper to all of the other models. While I'm at it, I may rewrite all of the code or edit it if it's simple enough.

Gateron Switches

As some of you have noticed, I'm currently out of Gateron clears. Not a huge problem, just buy some more, right?

Unfortunately, the switches I use for my keypads are no longer being made. The normal Gaterons with the milky white case have been replaced with black bottom and clear tops. These are 100% incompatible with my current setup, but that doesn't mean the RGB keypads are going away. In fact, with the macro keypad, they might be getting an addition to the family.

But if I can't get more of these switches, how am I going to continue? I'll use the SMD LED switches, of course! These have small notches in the bottom that are meant to accommodate surface mount LEDs on a PCB. The only downside is that they may only fit 3535 LEDs instead of the 5050s I use which limits me to RGB. It's not too much of a problem since I only switched to RGBW for simpler code and there's little to no aesthetic benefit, but I'll have to change the code a little bit which I was planning on doing anyway. I'll be getting the switches in later this week (hopefully) and try go get this figured out.


The Gambler wrote:

That 4K keypad looks *muwah* fantastic!!.. Sigh

Cawub wrote:

Wow the 4k keypad looks really good! Nice job on this!
Thanks guys! I'm really happy with how it came out :)
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Thnikk wrote:

ReadTheDocs
I've wanted an official page for documentation for a while, and I think ReadTheDocs is perfect. I can update everything easily though GitHub and I don't have to waste my time trying to make it look clean and simple, so I can spend more time writing documentation. Check it out here! http://docs.thnikk.moe/

Code

With the code I've written for the macro keypad (the 4K too), I think I'm getting much better at writing clean and concise code. Since all of my keypads use the same microcontroller, there's no reason that I couldn't go back and add this serial remapper to all of the other models. While I'm at it, I may rewrite all of the code or edit it if it's simple enough.
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Sigh. my noobius maximus in code is showing... I'll somehow adopt your code to the teensy, one day.
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amazing
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Have been using mine (Basic Keypad/Cherry MX Red) for half a month, so far I'm very satisfied and it gets the job done precisely. Would highly recommend!! 8-)
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Update 12/20/16
Happy holidays everyone! I've been meaning to post an update for a while so I have a lot to post about now.

Switch Changing Kit

I actually wrote this entire post before I remembered that I never even posted about this. The switch changing kit is up on the shop and the guide is up on http://docs.thnikk.moe!

Quick Start Guide
I realize that some things aren't totally 100% clear with my keypads so I wanted to make a quickstart guide for customers to use right when they get their keypad. There are still some things I want to add but it's also available on http://docs.thnikk.moe.

Stock Update
Gateron clears and browns are back in stock!


Gateron SMD Switches
As I mentioned in my previous post, Gateron is no longer making their milky-white switches that I've been using for my RGB keypads for the past year and a half. I was initially worried when I couldn't find them from my normal suppliers anymore, but my worries were washed away when I saw Gateron's SMD switches.



These are meant to be used on a PCB with SMD LEDs (hence the name,) but they still work just as well. The only problem is that they only (easily) fit 3535 SMD LEDs and I was using 5050 LEDs which are considerably larger, which leads us to the next update...


Small Hardware Update
Both the RGB and 4K keypads have moved back to RGB LEDs. The RGBW were nice for programming, but the white LED didn't really provide any visual benefit. Whites could get brighter, but the rainbow effect of using the 3 LEDs in an RGB LED is severely mitigated in my keypads because the light is diffused, so it's very difficult if not impossible to even see the individual LEDs when they are white.

I also rewrote all of the code to work perfectly with them so it's no problem. The code is even backwards (forwards?) compatible with RGBW LEDs so you can still use it on your keypads if you have an older model! This is yet another segue...


Small Feature Change
The 4K Keypad has had a slight change made to the LED modes to make it more consistent with the RGB model. The modes are now:

Cycle: Smoothly transitions from red to green to blue and back to red (same as the RGB keypad)
Reactive: Turns white on keypress and goes from white to red to green to blue to off on release
Push-off: Inverted Reactive
Custom: Set the color of each LED individually
BPM: Color of all LEDs change depending on how many times the keys are pressed per second.
Taiko: Taiko color scheme (blue orange orange blue)

Gone is the cascading cycle because I thought it looked too distracting and the per-key BPS because why would you want that? If anyone DOES prefer the old modes, let me know and I can hook you up.


Big Code Update
Since I had to rewrite the code for the RGB and 4K models, I thought it would be nice to make it more worthwhile and invest a bit of time into a feature I've been wanting to expand upon for a while now. Along with some cleanup and uniformity, all models now feature the new and improved serial remapper. This allows each face key to be mapped to up to 3 buttons so you can use it as a macro key. The side button cannot be remapped and I don't plan on changing that since it's a multipurpose button.



There are still some limitations, though. It can still only do printable characters and !#^+ are excluded since those are used for the modifier keys. I am planning on releasing an update that makes it a little simpler to change these manually through the code as a temporary fix, but I would like to have it working 100% soon. Eventually. I'll try.

All code is available on my GitHub: [link]
If you'd like to update the code on your keypad, you can follow my reprogramming guide here: [link]


Side Projects
It's the holiday season and I've unfortunately had less time to work on new products. It's been a busy time and a lot of my spare time has gone to playing around with micropython. However, I am still hoping to get these out there in one form or another with at least one of them coming out in the next month.

Project Diva Mini MINI controller
I still get comments on my youtube video of the Project Diva Future Tone controller I made a while ago, and I would like to eventually sell something that fills the void between the Arcade and PS4 version. I don't have one myself, but I've heard the most recent Hori controller was mediocre and I was fairly happy with the way my controller turned out but it turned out to be WAY too expensive in parts. What I'd like is to either simplify the large design (no more huge transistor board to switch between inputs and elaborate RGB LED setup) or downsize it and use Cherry MX/Gateron switches. Here's my first attempt at the downsized model.



This is just a picture that I posted a while back on twitter, but this design was fairly unsuccessful. It's not particularly comfortable to use (may take some more getting used to) and the Brook PS4 Fight Board I'm using doesn't and apparently will never support analog sticks despite advertising that a firmware update was coming that was going to add the functionality. It is still a LOT faster than padhacking a DS4 though, so I have a lot of experimenting to do. I would really like to have the analog sticks for backwards compatibility with Project Diva X and F 2nd, though. With the new DLC update on the 22nd, I'll have a lot more time to play around with the idea.


Macro Keypad
This hasn't made a whole lot of immediate progress, but the large code update should make it a lot simpler to carry over what I've already written. More coming soon.
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I'm really looking forward to the FT controller. So far, it is looking good! I saw a lot of custom controller for that game and it is really amazing. If you are going to sell them, I imagine you are going to make something more simplified.
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