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Kankri

Joined June 2014

Kankri 2015-06-21T06:51:13+00:00

from mod queue

[Muzukashii]

00:06:402 (23) - d

00:12:802 (47,48,49) - d k D

00:44:002 (159) - d

01:36:002 (23) - ^

[Oni]

00:41:702 (5) - k

00:44:902 (5) - d

[Inner Oni]

01:22:802 (3) - k

long stream too stronk

[tasuke's Inner Oni]

00:26:002 (1) - k

tasuke's diffs are always too op

I love your maps Ozzy, GL getting this map ranked!

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-06-22T03:19:06+00:00

Thanks, Kasha!

(i modded joint struggle)

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-06-22T12:14:56+00:00

Kasha wrote:
from mod queue

[tasuke's Inner Oni]

00:26:002 (1) - k - no change.

tasuke's diffs are always too op

I love your maps Ozzy, GL getting this map ranked!

Thanks!

Last edited by tasuke912 2015-07-19T13:56:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

DarkDunskin

1,874 posts

Joined April 2009

DarkDunskin 2015-06-26T11:06:28+00:00

Hello altogether~
Let's M4M this!

[Kantan]

1. 00:31:602 (46) - d -> k? For a little bit more variation? You'll do it later too 00:38:002 (56) -
2. 01:22:802 (113) - d -> k? Sounds nicer imo.
The beginning sounds kinda weird becaus of all these 1/1's but I guess it can't be helped on this difficulty ^^"

[Futsuu]
- 1. 00:01:202 (2,3,4) - I'd put (2) and (4) on the red ticks. In my opinion its easier to follow that rythmical pattern, than to to let these notes stay on the white ticks. If you consider this though I'd also remove (4) completely, so new players have enough time to get the three kats afterwards. But it works boths ways of course.
  2. 00:13:202 (29) - d -> D like on other diffs?
  3. 00:19:602 (41) - d -> D ^
  [Muzukashii]
  - 1. 00:34:802 (123) - Delete? Would follow the guitar more.
    2. 00:37:602 (134) - Move to 00:37:502 - ^
    3. 01:04:402 (212) - d -> D
    4. 01:14:002 (247) - ^
    [Oni]
    - 00:13:202 (1) - k -> D
      00:38:802 (4) - k -> K
      00:45:202 (2) - ^
      00:51:602 (1) - d -> D
      01:07:602 (2) - k -> K
      [Inner Oni]
      - 01:19:402 (2,1,2,1) - 1/6 dkkd not quite the usual, probably change to dddk so nobody complaints?
        01:42:002 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - kkkkk D D would be a better conclusion imo. At least the red part of that stream doesn't fit the song.
        [tasuke's Inner Oni]
        00:12:602 (88,89,90,91) - I'd change to 1/6 kkkd. Personally I'd recommend not to use 1/8 notes in maps for ranking. The only ranked map I know including 1/8 notes is Ex's Version of PUPA, but even there he used 1/8 only in dupletts.
        01:03:802 (46,47,48,49) - 1/6 dddk please ^
        01:29:402 (100,101,102,103) - 1/6 kkkd ^
        Ahhh why whistles @.@
        
        Only a few suggestions because the map is quite nice right now~
        Good luck!

Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2015-06-27T05:11:32+00:00

Inner Oni -
00:52:002 - Starting here, ending here 01:02:402 - , every white line, if left empty at the time of this post, should have a kat in place of it. At least, for me, it sounds and plays quite well.
01:03:802 - Maybe 1/6 dddk?
01:16:602 - 1/6 dddk again?
01:22:802 - k 01:22:902 - k 01:23:002 - d ?
01:29:402 - 1/6 dddk?
01:42:002 - kddkddkkkdddk? I think it fits the stream better than the current stream

Tasuke -
00:12:602 - I don't like the 1/6, try dddk 1/6
00:25:602 - dkkkd?
00:51:602 - Finish, why isn't there one? you do it on other places.
00:58:002 - ^
01:03:802 - 1/6, not 1/8
01:07:602 - finish
01:10:602 - ^
01:29:402 - 1/6

Oni -
00:38:802 - To make this 1/2 stream interesting, add finishers throughout to the cymbal crashes
Good diff

Muzu -
00:03:902 (14) - Why arent these notes (blue lines) finishers?
01:36:702 (26) - ^
01:39:602 - How much would d ddd d ddd d ddd hurt? I'm not sure on a muzu but it seems fine if you wanted it to me.

Futsuu -
00:00:402 - Only major problem in this map, just do d.....d.....d.....d.....k k k for these beginning parts. What you have now is...crappy.
01:30:002 - ^

Kantan -
Good for me, a little on the weird side in those beginning and end parts as well but, its kantan, I wont nitpick.

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-06-27T07:36:21+00:00

Thanks guys!

Changed most stuff Dunskin said except for ending 1/6 stuff and some pitch suggestions. I like the 1/6 end since in the original jubeat the WHOLE thing is 1/6, I wanna sort of keep that feel.

Backfire, your 1/6 drum suggestions are definitely something I'll consider, never heard them while mapping those parts years ago. I'll test how they play.

Both mods had similar stuff, like finishers and the futsuu fiasco, which I fixed.

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-06-27T09:19:28+00:00

Thanks for mods.

All 1/8 notes are changed to 1/6.
I wanted to keep 1/8, but many modder said 1/6 is better. ;w;
update.

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Volta

1,622 posts

Joined March 2014

Volta 2015-06-28T09:27:03+00:00

Hi, from my modding queue. Here's your order nyaa~

Kantan

how about make the HP 4. i think 5 is too high.

00:54:002 (74) - change to k
01:10:002 (93) - d
01:16:002 (100) - d

Inner Oni

00:09:602 (1,2,1) - change this to ddk? its nice to have variation and i think the drum sound is different than the first one

00:26:002 (2) - if you follow the drum i think its d
00:26:202 (1) - k, the pitch different from 00:26:302 (1)
00:27:602 (3) - i think this is d and 00:34:002 (1) - this is k because the second one has a higher pitch

nice stream

00:59:202 (2) - k
01:04:402 (3) - d

01:09:702 (2,1,2) - change to dkk and 01:10:302 (2,1) - swap, i think this will fits the guitar better

damn the last part. how can you people hit that

Tasukete Inner Oni

seems good

Oni

00:19:602 (8) - change to d?
rest is very good

Futsuu

00:25:202 (49) - change to k, same pitch as 00:23:402 (46)
00:06:202 (11) - change to d? some variation rather than always kkk. you also did some variation like this in oni.
00:12:602 (25) - ^
01:35:802 (13) - ^
01:42:202 (29) - ^

Muzu

00:06:002 (21,22) - change to d?
00:12:402 (45,46) - ^
01:35:602 (21,22) - ^

that's all. sorry about the randomness of the mod. Good luck nya~

bananannian

393 posts

Joined June 2014

bananannian 2015-06-30T06:38:17+00:00

Hi! From your forum taiko queue. M4M request can be found there as well.
I am pretty thorough, so don't be annoyed if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu

[General]
SV feels a bit slow. It is an intense song; maybe 1.2x would work better particularly for the harder difficulties.
Difficulty spikes at the Inner Onis; 1.5* gap between Oni and the Inners may be too much, depends on how lenient the QATs are.

[Kantan]
No glaring issues, but...
00:38:802 - this entire kiai is k? Sounds pretty monotonous to play imo, and the first 6 measures are pretty empty as well, making the kiai boring to play. Suggestion: add d at 00:41:602, 00:44:802 and 00:48:002

Some suggestions:
00:03:202 (5,15) - change to d, to differentiate from the pitch difference between here and 00:06:402 (10,20), as well as make it so that the same pattern doesn't repeat 4 times
01:06:002 - change to d, since guitar doesn't start directly onbeat
01:09:202 - ^
01:32:802 (129,139) - see 00:03:202 (5,15)

[Futsuu]
Again...
00:38:802 - this entire kiai is the same pattern repeated 4 times in a row, doesn't serve the kiai justice lol. And I personally don't like the continuous 1/2 note stream, but whether to change that or not is entirely up to you

Suggestions:
00:57:602 - add k for better build up as well as be consistent with 01:10:402 (143)
01:16:402 (154,155) - change to K K for the build up to kiai
01:28:402 - this measure is the last for the kiai and I feel it would be better to increase note density by just a bit for a satisfying finish. I would do this by adding k to 01:29:002 and 01:29:602
01:40:402 and 01:41:602 - I have no issue with adding d here, although others might feel that Futsuu players would have trouble dealing with the difficulty spike

[Muzukashii]
Suggestions:
00:03:902 (14,16,18,20) - why not change it to K instead of D? The heavy drum hit sounds doesn't match well with the background cymbals
00:18:202 - maybe like this instead?

00:38:802 - kiai time again

Just a tiny bit of variation would suffice
01:06:802 (220) - change to k, match guitar pitch as well as break the clump of d a bit
01:23:602 (290,291,292,293,294) - this pattern doesn't reflect the cymbal splash at 01:23:602 and 01:24:202 well. Maybe change to dkkdk?
01:36:702 (26,28,30,32) - same as 00:03:902 (14,16,18,20)
01:39:602 - another note, again others might feel that the difficulty spike here is too harsh, I have no ires with it though

[Oni]
Suggestions:
00:03:902 (1,1,1,1) - same as Muzukashii
00:13:202 (1) - change to D? Heavy onbeat should not be mapped as K I feel.
00:19:602 (8) - change to d for the same reason above
00:28:602 - add d; the abrupt silence here without gradual decrease of note density sounds weird
00:35:002 - ^
00:38:802 - KIAI AGAIN >.< I'm against this concept in general, too much repetition for me.
00:51:302 - add k for better build up
01:17:202 - I feel like a slider of the same length would suit better, since players can finish spinners way earlier than intended.
01:36:702 (7,2,5,2) - same as 00:03:902
[]

Ok, done for now.

I'll see about modding the other two difficulties later.

Edit: back.

[tasuke's Inner Oni]
00:06:802 to 00:12:402 - this part has the notes clumped pretty randomly; too random I feel. More consistency might be better.
00:24:002 (65) - change to K to match cymbal splash in music
00:50:802 - don't particularly like the change to 1/3 rhythm here; firstly, the synth crescendo draws more attention than the drums, and so the 1/4 rhythm is more prominent than the 1/3; then there's the fact these sort of thing just doesn't play very well imo.
01:17:002 (108,109,1) - I'd rather this to be d D with a 1/2 gap than a ddd, for emphasis of the beginning of kiai

Honestly the difficulty is well made; would rather not nit-pick at this point, so I'll just stop here.

[Inner Oni]
00:13:202 (1) - same as Oni
00:19:602 (11) - same as Oni
00:33:602 - just like to draw your attention to the guitar syncopated rhythm here, not sure if mapping that would play well or not though (if you can't catch it listen at 50% playback speed)
00:38:802 - kiai time again :/ Don't like the repetition, makes the kiai boring
01:07:602 (2) - same as 00:19:602
01:17:202 (1) - change to a slider for the same reason as Oni

Note on deathstream: the second one seems to be just 01:23:602 (2,3,1,1,1,2,1,1) repeated 4 times; maybe change some of the notes to reflect guitar pitch better? e.g. 01:25:002 (1,1) change to kd, 01:26:102 (3,1,1) change to kdk. Just suggestions.
[]

There you go! Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-07-01T06:15:27+00:00

Flying Pan, thanks for the mod! I modified the intros and outros.

Banana-man, amazing mod. Definitely saved some otherwise dumb parts of the map. However, I think I ruined Oni's first kiai since I'm so sleepy..

Inner Oni's deathstreams will stay, but your changes were tempting considering the map is already pretty tough, and adding difficulty wouldn't be so strange.

The stuff about heavy onbeats, everyone's said that, but I don't know, I really like the sudden-ness of "big sounds and immediately after, light guitar". But who knows, I may make those parts D afterwards

I want the slow SV to stay, I like keeping it DT-easy (if they can hit the 1/6!) and the difficulty curve is allowed, so long as Kantan to Oni is well-spread.

Will definitely ask for your mods later down the line!

I need to look through Inner and fix some random and inconsistent big notes.

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-07-01T16:10:19+00:00

bananannian wrote:
Hi! From your forum taiko queue. M4M request can be found there as well.
I am pretty thorough, so don't be annoyed if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu

[tasuke's Inner Oni]
00:06:802 to 00:12:402 - this part has the notes clumped pretty randomly; too random I feel. More consistency might be better. improved.
00:24:002 (65) - change to K to match cymbal splash in music keep. i think it's a bit noisy.
00:50:802 - don't particularly like the change to 1/3 rhythm here; firstly, the synth crescendo draws more attention than the drums, and so the 1/4 rhythm is more prominent than the 1/3; then there's the fact these sort of thing just doesn't play very well imo. I think 1/3 is more fit than 1/4. i follow the drum so it's not problem.
01:17:002 (108,109,1) - I'd rather this to be d D with a 1/2 gap than a ddd, for emphasis of the beginning of kiai hmm, keeping now, but i'll reconsider it.

Honestly the difficulty is well made; would rather not nit-pick at this point, so I'll just stop here.

There you go! Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!

Thanks for mod!

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Midnaait

784 posts

Joined April 2012

Midnaait 2015-07-03T06:53:37+00:00

I forgot, have a random star
rank it soon

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-07-04T08:26:04+00:00

Self reminder: https://remywiki.com/Riot_of_Color

GuitarFreaksXG3 & DrumManiaXG3 copious GITADORA CS KONAMI jukebeat music pack 10 12 24 pop'n music Sunny Park ミライダガッキ FutureTomTom Ver.2

Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-07-13T19:39:15+00:00

Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.

[General]

Remove Extreme diff so that it would be a taiko set.
Source: jubeat APPEND ?

[Kantan]

Disable widescreen support.

From 00:00:402 to 00:06:802 - the arrangement of notes seems to be unable to fit the rhythm. Consider deleting 00:01:202 (2,3) - and adding a note at 00:01:602 - instead ?
00:04:402 (7,8) - same as ^
00:18:002 (27) - this note could be deleted to give a longer break.
From 00:38:802 to 00:51:602 - quite weird to see the kiai being sparser than the non-kiai parts. I think you should use a bit more 1/1 notes to make a better spread with Futsuu.
00:33:202 (48) - same as 00:18:002 (27) - . 4/1 breaks would work well in Kantan.
01:24:002 (117,118) - because of the long pattern from 01:15:602 to 01:42:802 - , these notes could be deleted for a 4/1 break.
01:30:802 (128,129) - same as 00:01:202 (2,3) -
01:34:002 (133,134) - ^

[Futsuu]

Disable widescreen support.

00:44:802 (95) - this note could be deleted for a 2/1 break. The non-stop 1/1 pattern is in fact a bit hard for Futsuu.
01:16:802 (156) - D would sound better since the pitch is low. It would be more consistent with Muzukashii as well.
01:18:802 (161) - maybe k to fit the relatively high-pitched guitar ?
01:31:802 (4) - It would be better to delete this note as you did at 00:02:202 -
01:35:002 (11) - same as ^
01:40:402 and 01:41:602 - try to add d to adjust the spread with Muzukashii.

[Muzukashii]

Disable widescreen support.

From 00:00:402 to 00:51:602 - 2/1 breaks are absent in this session. In order to make it less dense, 00:14:202 (52,53) and 00:17:402 (63,64) - could be deleted.
00:20:602 (72,73) - same as ^
00:38:402 (138) - here is another good spot for a 2/1 break.
From 01:02:802 to 01:42:802 - same problem like the first half of the song. Some 2/1 breaks should be inserted to allow time for rest. For example, 01:05:002 (220) - could be removed.
01:08:202 (232) and 01:11:402 (244) - same as ^
From 01:39:602 to 01:42:802 - the difficulty gap with Futsuu is too big. As the current note density is a bit close to Oni, you may want to reduce the use of 1/4 notes for the sake of a more even spread.

[Oni]

Disable widescreen support.

00:06:002 (1,2,2) - consider removing finish here ? A bit overemphasized imo.
00:12:602 (2,3,4) - same as ^ . Then you may add finish at 00:13:202 (1) - for proper emphasis of the stressed sound.
00:26:002 (2) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
00:26:302 (1) - d would be better since its pitch is the same as 00:26:202 (1) -
00:32:702 (1) - same as ^
01:07:602 (2) - same as 00:26:002 (2) -
01:26:802 (2,1,2,1) - same as 00:06:002 (1,2,2) -

[tasuke's Inner Oni]

Disable widescreen support.

00:02:902 (14,15) - swapping these notes to dk would follow the pitch at 00:02:802 (13,15) - in a way better. This would be more coherent with the kats at 00:09:202 (60,61,62) - too.
00:25:702 (79,80,81) - maybe dkk to fit the snares there ?
00:38:102 (92) - consider deleting this note ? It sounds a bit unnecessary imo. Also, this would be more consistent with the breaks like 01:03:702 and 01:29:302 -
01:32:502 (14,15) - same as 00:02:902 (14,15) -
01:38:902 (65,66) - ^

[Inner Oni]

00:06:002 (1,2,2) - same as Oni
00:12:602 (2,3,4,1) - ^
00:32:702 (1) - ^
01:07:602 (2) - ^
01:18:802 (1) - the slider is broken. Try to extend it to 01:19:227 - (end the slider 1/16 later) for the missing tick ?
01:26:802 (2,1,2,1) - same as Oni

Try to find a few more mods regarding the overall spread, then you may call me back for a recheck.

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-07-13T23:59:39+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.

[General]
Source: jubeat APPEND ? I think it might actually be from jubeat copious APPEND actually!

[Muzukashii]
From 01:02:802 to 01:42:802 - same problem like the first half of the song. Some 2/1 breaks should be inserted to allow time for rest. For example, 01:05:002 (220) - could be removed. I changed the middle one, since the other parts seem not that dense.
[Oni]
01:26:802 (2,1,2,1) - same as 00:06:002 (1,2,2) - Applied it to the first 3, the other ones have strong snare sounds associated.

[Inner Oni]
00:06:002 (1,2,2) - same as Oni Did some stuff with these parts to fit the drums more. (it may be ugly)
01:26:802 (2,1,2,1) - same as Oni <--

Rest applied! Thanks a lot Nardo!

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-07-14T09:25:39+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.

[tasuke's Inner Oni]

Disable widescreen support. fixed
00:02:902 (14,15) - swapping these notes to dk would follow the pitch at 00:02:802 (13,15) - in a way better. This would be more coherent with the kats at 00:09:202 (60,61,62) - too. One is applied. i think kkdkddd follow the melody well better than kdkkddd, so not changed this. (maybe it's Individual difference?)
00:25:702 (79,80,81) - maybe dkk to fit the snares there ? i think kkk-dkddd is better sense of play the drum.
00:38:102 (92) - consider deleting this note ? It sounds a bit unnecessary imo. Also, this would be more consistent with the breaks like 01:03:702 and 01:29:302 - I think this note is needed for better connection to next kiai part, so not changed. it's not problem imo.
01:32:502 (14,15) - same as 00:02:902 (14,15) - ^
01:38:902 (65,66) - ^ ^
Try to find a few more mods regarding the overall spread, then you may call me back for a recheck.

Thanks, Nardo!

update:

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shionelove

1,521 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-07-16T10:19:09+00:00

from PM
i see spread and there's no issue i think
you know two Inner Oni has almost 1 diff gap,but that's just Star Diff mad broken shit

Inner Oni(not GD) uses many kddkddkddkddkddkddkddkddkdd just it causes raise SD too much.we can see same things in Kyoai,Don't Cut,which we call PP farm

Kantan,Futsuu,Muzukashii,Oni,good spread
anyway we shouldn't refer SD now,it is really terrible meter

after bubble i will check this

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-07-16T22:58:52+00:00

Thanks Mr. betting addiction! (´∀｀)♡

Aldwych

2,831 posts

Joined February 2012

Aldwych 2015-07-22T16:40:08+00:00

RITO OF KOLOR!!

M4M wanted (talked with you last time lolol)

[General]

RENAME PLZPLZ
KDPLZ

[Kantan]

00:02:002 : I'm not feeling confident with this kind of note. While the others are fine, this one is not on the same page as the previous one because the main rythm is 3/2 beats (there's also nothing important here to map on a kantan and you didn't use d here on futsuu). Imo you should delete it. Wow much argues.

00:05:202 : The reasons could be the same here, but you get some finishers here. Why don't you show some differs here for players, Y U NO FINISH?

00:08:402 : Same as 00:02:002. Well there's some others but i really think that's something good to do. (Trust me m8! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) )

00:15:602 : I don't really know what you're searching for here. You've got guitar 1/2 before, plus you're using 3/2 rythm between, don't you think that you'll confuse new players?

00:22:002 : Same lel.

00:56:402 : The guitar goes down so why not kkd?

01:23:602 : D? Seems like a section finisher.

01:31:602 : Same as ... way before lel. And same for the next one.

01:40:802 : 3 d is quite boring, i think dkd is more accurate.

[Futsuu]

00:22:002 : Have you tried to move it 1/2 later? It might sounds weird but interesting.

Nice futsuu. A but hesitating is these full 1/1 on kiai is legit but at least this is the most stamina part.

[Muzukashii]

00:15:102 : I think you should go for k here, there's the guitar and it's sounds pretty well with the next rythm.

00:18:022 : Maybe add a d here? I really like when patterns stars on a white note. It's more rythm friendly :3

00:21:502 : Same as 00:15:102.

00:38:802 : Have you tried kkd instead? It sounds better imo.

00:41:602 : And if you have followed what i wrote above, changed this to d also. Sounds better.

01:08:202 : Add d? I felt weird for this alone k.

01:43:102 : You added d here on Oni, why not on muzukashii.

Good muzu, i like it.

[Oniiiii chan]

00:50:202 : I don't know why you're chaging your patterns in the end. This might be surprising when playing.

00:55:402 : Why no kk? Much Guitar.

Love it.

Sorry i can't mod Inner T_T

Really clean map as far as i could see. That was quite hard to map this reasonably.

Anyway if you accept the m4m here's the map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/165414

Gl hf for rank!

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-07-22T18:36:48+00:00

Thanks for the mod!

Good ideas in kantan. That intro was off, you're completely right. Futsuu, I didn't want to spam 1/2 because Muzu handles that. I changed some notes you mentioned in Muzu, they did sound nice.

I have remapped the first kiai for diffs below Inner Oni. The spread was god awful and I have NO clue why I thought that was mapped well. THANKS 2012.

Also, I need to find a timing expert (thanks Surono).
+8 offset added (thanks Crimmi)!

Coro

2,394 posts

Joined September 2010

Coro 2015-07-28T01:08:41+00:00

eyy Riot of Color
I'll look at this later, cause I'm in the mood to riot

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2015-07-28T17:21:50+00:00

TaiMink EksPreeeettttttttt :^) dem pepez Innerz. but still cant hit rainbow pattern.. eww kddkddkdd~~~~~

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2015-07-31T11:26:57+00:00

Weff

[General/All diffs]

01:17:210 - Why is this mapped in lower diffs but spinner+slider in Onis??

[Kantan]

00:02:010 (3) - Baka note, remove it's nowhere else
00:41:210 - Break intended?
01:09:210 (90,91,92) - Would prefer if this was 2/1 or not k k k because the guitar is a little bit different here.
01:15:610 (98,99,100) - ^

[Futsuu]

00:48:010 - Think it wouldn't be bad to connect the 1/1 here a bit more. If not here, somewhere else in the kiai. So it also differs a little bit more from Kantan and is closer to Moozoo

NOTE THERE'S MORE FOR FUTSUU IN THE MUZU MOD, I SCREW LOGIC

I like your shoe

[Muzukashii]

This diff is very hard compared to Futsuu. It's also very close to Oni in many spots
It also does things over diffs don't do (ok Futsuu adds /1/ note that doesn't count cause that was necessary lol)

00:06:910 (26) - 00:08:110 (31) - 00:10:110 (40) - 00:11:310 (45) - Remove these - Oni doesn't go up in difficulty either. They are also kinda weird since you don't play them on all sounds like this.
00:14:410 - Compare with Futsuu - Missing kat (or remove it in Futsuu)
00:17:610 - 00:18:010 - Same. I'd actually recommend deleting the first one in Futsuu and just use the don to avoid a kat-overdose especially cause tehre are many sounds that would use kat here

00:26:010 - 00:38:010 - This is another spot that is quite dense in Muzukashii and not in Futsuu. I wanted to blame Muzu first but then I noticed it's Futsuu's fault, so

Futsuu: 00:27:210 - 00:27:410 - Could have two dons here, this part deserves to be a bit more dense than the last one (with preview point and stuff)
00:30:410 - Add a note here, it fits quite well to the song

Muzukashii: 00:31:810 (117) - Shouldn't this be 00:31:610 - here if you follow guitar??
00:29:810 (108,109) - Change first to kat, remove 2nd --v
00:36:010 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - Use the pattern here instead. It's still more than first (if you apply mod hur) but it's not two 1/4 together (also Oni is not changing its pattern)

00:47:710 (177) - Where did this come from ;w;
00:50:810 (188,189,190,191,192,193) - Oni doesn't have 1/4. Use Oni's thing here and Muzu's thing in Oni.
00:56:410 (202,203,204,205,206) - Should be d d k k d if you compare this with all other diffs (except Kantan).
01:15:010 (259) - Remove too, it's not supported by song or other diffs
01:33:310 (14) - 01:34:510 (19) - Same as before^

[Oni]

00:02:910 (1) - Would prefer if this was gone (omg so much deletion !repot Nwolf) so the melody can be heard more clearly.
00:09:310 (1) - ^
00:37:810 (1) - Change to don, fits to 00:38:010 (1) - better (drums and guitar)
00:48:410 - 00:50:810 - Suddenly increase in difficulty aaaah. It already gets more intense with the higher amount of finishers so I think this is a bit unnecessary.
01:03:610 (2) - Missing finisher
01:09:810 (1,2,1,1,2,1,1) - I think it fits to the pitch better if it was ddk kkk d (last d is too avoid katness) cause the guitar kinda goes up I think
01:28:210 - Missing note?
01:32:510 (1) - Same as before
01:32:910 (2) - Weff? ^
01:39:210 (1) - Change to don maybe, flows nicer and melody would be a bit more noticeable

[tasuke's Inner Oni]

00:13:210 (1) - Add finisher to emphasise that the song changes a bit here
00:14:710 (7,8) - idk this sounds wrong. Drums would suggest a triplet or 1/2 (or removing 7). I also tried dd, that would work better too. Kat disturbs a lot though imo
00:21:110 (47) - ^
00:29:810 (27,28,29,30,31,32) - Shouldn't this be connected? Again the song doesn't suggest having a pattern like this.
00:31:310 (39) - ^ Move to 00:31:410 -
00:58:010 (22) - Missing finisher? (00:54:810 (11) - )
01:07:610 (65) - ^
01:10:810 (78) - ^

[Inner Oni]

00:06:110 (2) - Same as Oni (different spot BUT YOU GET IT RITE, RIIIIIIIITE ;w;)
00:31:010 (1,1,2,3,1) - Think Oni did it pretty nice here. I don't get why you still use the 1/4 doublet rhythm when you didn't 00:29:210 (1,2) - here (guitar stopped). Same with why 00:31:410 (3,1) - they aren't the same color
00:59:210 (2) - Something about this note disturbs me. No suggestions from my side, just wanted to note that c:
01:14:810 (1,2) - Delete both to give the map and the song a bit rest. These aren't really needed
01:35:810 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't make sense to me. Song doesn't suggest mono color on 1/4 and it kills melody+drums.
01:39:610 - HELLO PYRAMID TREASURE HOW ARE YOU :°)

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-07-31T16:19:11+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
Weff

[General/All diffs]

01:17:210 - Why is this mapped in lower diffs but spinner+slider in Onis??
[tasuke's Inner Oni]

00:13:210 (1) - Add finisher to emphasise that the song changes a bit here　applied.
00:14:710 (7,8) - idk this sounds wrong. Drums would suggest a triplet or 1/2 (or removing 7). I also tried dd, that would work better too. Kat disturbs a lot though imo this pattern doesn't follow the drums and other sounds. I make taiko original rhythm in order to give a rich personality. and, I think this rhythm is no adverse effect for playing, so i keep now the rhythm.
00:21:110 (47) - ^
00:29:810 (27,28,29,30,31,32) - Shouldn't this be connected? Again the song doesn't suggest having a pattern like this. ^
00:31:310 (39) - ^ Move to 00:31:410 -
00:58:010 (22) - Missing finisher? (00:54:810 (11) - ) same as 00:51:610 (1) - , (d-d-D-D)
01:07:610 (65) - ^ i don't want to use many finishers. ;w;
01:10:810 (78) - ^

Thanks for your mod!

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2015-07-31T18:24:00+00:00

tasuke912 wrote:
Nwolf wrote:
[tasuke's Inner Oni]

00:14:710 (7,8) - idk this sounds wrong. Drums would suggest a triplet or 1/2 (or removing 7). I also tried dd, that would work better too. Kat disturbs a lot though imo this pattern doesn't follow the drums and other sounds. I make taiko original rhythm in order to give a rich personality. and, I think this rhythm is no adverse effect for playing, so i keep now the rhythm. as noted, try dd. The kat is the core problem here.
00:58:010 (22) - Missing finisher? (00:54:810 (11) - ) same as 00:51:610 (1) - , (d-d-D-D)
01:07:610 (65) - ^ i don't want to use many finishers. ;w;
01:10:810 (78) - ^
I'll just be blunt, it sounds bad and even more, it's inconsistent and /weird/. It's not many finishers - your map lacks many core finishers but that's because of 1/4 so I didn't go into detail much. Your "d-d-D-D" argument doesn't work either - 01:04:410 (52) - 01:07:610 (65) - 01:10:810 (78) - are all small d. If anything, 65 SHOULD have a big don. Or you remove all. That will sound bad though, because then emphasis kinda goes away and feels more disconnected from the song.

Sorry if I sound rude - just trying to clarify my stand-point here ;w; (and maybe emphasizing something I wrote in the mod you might've missed)

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-07-31T22:59:21+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
Weff

[General/All diffs]

01:17:210 - Why is this mapped in lower diffs but spinner+slider in Onis?? In my style, higher diffs will stay strict to the guitar, where lower diffs will mainly follow beat but reference guitar every now and then.

[Muzukashii]

00:29:810 (108,109) - Change first to kat, remove 2nd --v
00:36:010 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - Use the pattern here instead. It's still more than first (if you apply mod hur) but it's not two 1/4 together (also Oni is not changing its pattern) my editor fucked while doing this so i just randomly did shit

[Oni]

00:02:910 (1) - Would prefer if this was gone (omg so much deletion !repot Nwolf) so the melody can be heard more clearly. Here I want notes for the small roll.

01:09:810 (1,2,1,1,2,1,1) - I think it fits to the pitch better if it was ddk kkk d (last d is too avoid katness) cause the guitar kinda goes up I think I like how it plays as it is
01:28:210 - Missing note? Maybe my editor fucked up, but no?
01:39:210 (1) - Change to don maybe, flows nicer and melody would be a bit more noticeable

[Inner Oni]

00:06:110 (2) - Same as Oni (different spot BUT YOU GET IT RITE, RIIIIIIIITE ;w;) inner time baby
01:14:810 (1,2) - Delete both to give the map and the song a bit rest. These aren't really needed no rest for the wicked BABY
01:35:810 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't make sense to me. Song doesn't suggest mono color on 1/4 and it kills melody+drums. I think i mapped this late at night, after looking at the gitadora map and seeing that it was accented snare hits. I DID change this, I just wanted to mention that lmao.
01:39:610 - HELLO PYRAMID TREASURE HOW ARE YOU :°)

deleted stuff was done (sometimes improvised, but usually towards what'd be easier!

updated all, if tasuke does change things, i'll update again

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-08-02T09:34:25+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
[tasuke's Inner Oni]
as noted, try dd. The kat is the core problem here. it's individual difference. I think kd is more natural.

I'll just be blunt, it sounds bad and even more, it's inconsistent and /weird/. It's not many finishers - your map lacks many core finishers but that's because of 1/4 so I didn't go into detail much. Your "d-d-D-D" argument doesn't work either - 01:04:410 (52) - 01:07:610 (65) - 01:10:810 (78) - are all small d. If anything, 65 SHOULD have a big don. Or you remove all. That will sound bad though, because then emphasis kinda goes away and feels more disconnected from the song. 00:51:610 to 01:04:410 and 01:04:410 to 01:14:010 is not same configuration. if same configuration, I have to apply your thing.

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OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-08-02T21:54:38+00:00

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Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2015-08-02T22:10:01+00:00

`L_` dem pepez.

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-08-02T22:48:55+00:00

OzzyOzrock wrote:
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DQ DQ DQ DQ DQ

shionelove

1,521 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-08-03T05:29:07+00:00

nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke

Arrival

1,418 posts

Joined June 2012

Arrival 2015-08-05T08:07:01+00:00

The Star Difficulty got carried by the kddkddk

Nishizumi

1,092 posts

Joined March 2013

Nishizumi 2015-08-05T08:52:37+00:00

>CS 6
>HP 6
>OD 6
>SR 6

decrease AR to 6 on inner oni please

kd pls

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-08-05T20:06:28+00:00

gotta add another diff to make that 6 too :^)

Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-08-14T15:06:16+00:00

Hi, here is the recheck as requested.

[Kantan]

01:43:410 - consider adding a timing point with 50% hitsound volume ? Currently the spinner sounds too loud imo.

[Futsuu]

00:37:410 (79) - move to 00:37:810 - and change to d ? This would result in a smoother flow imo.
00:39:210 (83,91) - similar to ^ , I think d would sound better.
01:13:410 (153,154) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the pitch increase well.
01:23:610 (179) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
01:43:410 - same as Kantan

[Muzukashii]

00:20:610 (71,72) - these notes could be deleted to make the break consistent with 00:14:210 -
01:43:410 - same as Kantan

[Oni]

01:03:410 (1) - consider using d instead ? Its pitch is the lowest among 01:02:810 (1,1,1) -
01:04:210 (1) - maybe change this to d ? This would help emphasize the K at 01:04:410 (2) - and would be more coherent with 01:10:610 (1) -
01:42:710 (4) - you may want to delete this note for the sake of a better spread with Muzukashii. The music stops at 01:42:610 - as well, so it would be nice to end the 1/4 pattern there.
01:43:410 - same as Kantan

[tasuke's Inner Oni]

00:54:810 (11) - maybe add finish here as well ? It is as stressed as 00:58:010 (22,33) - that you used D there.
01:43:610 - consider adding a timing point with 50% hitsound volume ? Currently the spinner sounds too loud imo.

[Inner Oni]

01:02:410 - consider adding d here as you did in Oni ?
01:43:410 - same as Kantan

You may call me back after that~

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock 2015-08-15T01:10:14+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here is the recheck as requested.

[Kantan]
01:43:410 - consider adding a timing point with 50% hitsound volume ? Currently the spinner sounds too loud imo. Done to all diffs
[Futsuu]
00:37:410 (79) - move to 00:37:810 - and change to d ? This would result in a smoother flow imo. Sounds nice!
00:39:210 (83,91) - similar to ^ , I think d would sound better. Yeah I guess it's weird that only that one was katu lol
01:13:410 (153,154) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the pitch increase well. Done!
01:23:610 (179) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? I didn't since what I was mapping to didn't really call for it (guitar) but it's a nice place for one anyways, so added!
[Muzukashii]
00:20:610 (71,72) - these notes could be deleted to make the break consistent with 00:14:210 - I think I meant to have it as a difficulty increase, but it's weird seeing it only one time, so done.
[Oni]
01:03:410 (1) - consider using d instead ? Its pitch is the lowest among 01:02:810 (1,1,1) - Ok!
01:04:210 (1) - maybe change this to d ? This would help emphasize the K at 01:04:410 (2) - and would be more coherent with 01:10:610 (1) - Good catch
01:42:710 (4) - you may want to delete this note for the sake of a better spread with Muzukashii. The music stops at 01:42:610 - as well, so it would be nice to end the 1/4 pattern there. Done!
[Inner Oni]
01:02:410 - consider adding d here as you did in Oni ? Fixed
You may call me back after that~

tyvm nardo! :3

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2015-08-15T09:16:32+00:00

I CAME BACK HERE

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here is the recheck as requested.
[tasuke's Inner Oni]
00:54:810 (11) - maybe add finish here as well ? It is as stressed as 00:58:010 (22,33) - that you used D there.
i know. but personally i don't like pattern what it has many finishers on quiet part, so no change this. also, i think it work to prevent to isolation. 00:51:610 (1) -
01:43:610 - consider adding a timing point with 50% hitsound volume ? Currently the spinner sounds too loud imo. Added on 01:43:510.
You may call me back after that~

thx (🌸'ω'🌸)

update:

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256,192,100610,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,100810,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101010,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101076,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101143,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101210,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101410,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101610,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101676,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101743,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101810,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102010,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102210,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102410,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102543,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102610,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102676,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102743,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102810,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,103110,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,103410,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,103610,12,0,106010,0:0:0:0:

Other changes: some kdkkddkd patterns => kkdkddkd.
(it's personal preference. is there no great difference? lol)

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-08-16T07:32:00+00:00

The set looks fine now with an appropriate spread. Patterns are consistently arranged in general while lower difficulties have sufficient rest moments.

Bubbled~

Nwolf

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Nwolf 2015-08-17T01:50:21+00:00

I need a computer now aaaaaaaah

OzzyOzrock

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OzzyOzrock 2015-08-17T02:23:45+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
I need a computer now aaaaaaaah

no you don't..... you can qualify from your phone like I have ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^)

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