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BlackYooh vs. siromaru - BLACK or WHITE?

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Topic Starter
BluOxy

sukiNathan wrote:

Hm I'll take a look at this...

Just some nazi/suggestions

[General]
  1. Add "kac2013オリジナル楽曲コンテスト" and "original song contest" to tags? Taken from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/200552 fixed at least オリジナル楽曲コンテスト means original song contest, I just added "original song contest" and kac2013 that is already added.
  2. Disable widescreen support and epilepsy warning? There's no SB fixed
[BASIC]
  1. 00:14:837 (3,1) - Stack is off fixed
  2. 00:17:431 (2,3,4) - Try a different placement here. For new players this arrangement might be confused with a linear pattern like this as if they all had 1/1 gaps. fixed
  3. 00:51:161 (3) - I recommend just using a 1/1 slider instead, keep the polarity simple and easy for new players + avoid the overlap. fixed
  4. 00:52:458 (1,2,3) - Same thing mentioned before fixed
  5. 01:06:729 (3) - Consider just using a circle on the downbeat instead, I think the rhythm may be a bit confusing with the repeat being on the blue tick, but since it's only a repeat it might be fine. Up to you, don't forget you can avoid an overlap here too if you apply my suggestion. fixed
  6. 01:34:621 (1,2,3) - Might wanna use circles here too, same reason above. Also isn't this kind of difficult to read? Ahh, yes putting 3/4 reverse slider in a continuous is not good for beginners. I fixed "3/4 reverse slider, 3/4 reverse slider, 3/4 reverse slider, 2/1 slider" to "3/4 reverse slider, 1/1 slider, 3/4 reverse slider, two notes". well check it! when I updated (I must ask priti about fixing the map)
  7. 01:41:756 (1,2,4) - ^ almost same as before. check it!
[NOVICE]
AR 5 might be a bit more balanced between BASIC and ADVANCED
  1. 00:40:783 (4,6) - Stack is off fixed
  2. 01:46:296 (3,4,5,6,1) - 5 1/2 circles seems a bit much, use a 1/2 slider or repeat maybe. fixed
  3. 01:53:431 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^ fixed
[MASTER]
  1. 01:54:404 (2) - Ctrl+G this? I don't see any point in the harsh flow change.
I feel a good flow than the opinion

The spread for NOVICE->ADVANCED looks fine to me. Both difficulties already have a good use of 1/2, ADVANCED just introduces some slightly complex rhythms, some small jumps and a more dense rhythm in general. ADVANCED does have a fair amount of 1/4 but most are in the form of repeats which don't really count.

Let me know~
thank you for modding! And I changed
01:44:594 (2,3) - i deleted a red repeat point of this slider to straight.
00:57:323 (1) - i just changed the slider of form more artistic.

I don't.. shouldn't upload mapset right now because the bubbles will be broken. I'll ask BN again
meii18
You can update don't worry
Nathan
Yeah it's fine BluOxy, go ahead and update it. I even asked a couple other BNs!

Edit: After doing a random file check, I found out one of the hitsounds has a slight delay of 3.5 ms


Here's a file with the delay cut off! -> normal-hitwhistle.wav

the first few ms of normal-hitclap2 were also silent so -> normal-hitclap2.wav
Topic Starter
BluOxy

sukiNathan wrote:

Here's a file with the delay cut off! -> normal-hitwhistle.wav

the first few ms of normal-hitclap2 were also silent so -> normal-hitclap2.wav
Oh, thanks! I updated!!
Nathan
Well deserved, have my virginity!

Last Check
22:27 sukiNathan: hi!
22:27 BluOxy: hi~!
22:27 sukiNathan: just take the hitsounds I posted in the thread
22:27 sukiNathan: replace and update
22:27 sukiNathan: ill check one more time then qualify if good
22:27 BluOxy: yes, thank you for your customed hitsound!!
22:28 BluOxy: sure
22:29 BluOxy: okay, then anyway I'll update!
22:32 sukiNathan: ok checking now
22:33 sukiNathan: looking at files first
22:35 sukiNathan: ah whoops I need to redl with new hitsounds
22:35 BluOxy: :)
22:37 sukiNathan: hitsounds good
22:39 BluOxy: yes, really I'm glad about new hitsound that has no delay!
22:39 sukiNathan: song setup options consistent
22:39 sukiNathan: files good
22:40 sukiNathan: ah
22:40 sukiNathan: about the two extra things you changed
22:40 sukiNathan: what difficulty was it?
22:41 sukiNathan: nvm it was master
22:41 BluOxy: two extra..? at least the hardest diff is MASTER
22:43 sukiNathan: alright
22:43 sukiNathan: everything looks good
22:44 sukiNathan: grats on your first rank!
22:44 sukiNathan: just posting
caren_sk
CNGRTZ BLXY !!
ShiraKai
とっても素敵だ :)

Gratz :3
Gamu
待ってました。

おめでとうございます!
VINXIS
oooooo dam
Euny
such a nice map thanks and gratz
wendao
omg congrats dude (or girl?)
/hides/
Len
congratz
RuberusuScarlet
Gratz ~ ><)/
meii18
Congratulations BluOxy for your first qualified mapset owo
koreapenguin
Yay \o/
Secretpipe
Couldn't mod in time ;;
Gero

Secretpipe wrote:

Couldn't mod in time ;;
meii18
sukiNathan's virginity owo
[ Mephisto ]
Congrats 8-)
Kyouren
OMG, BluOxy is this very nice map!
Gratzz~ :3
Lust
Great work here, congratulations!
P o M u T a
おっやったなMy Brother! 8-)
Cinagro
omg finally ranked. grats
Infeh
Gratz! :)
Really good job on this one<3
wetdog123
This really should get a better mp3

EDIT: better mp3:http://puu.sh/h7hZc.mp3 turns out 320kbps isnt allowed
wetdog123

hhjkl wrote:

This really should get a better mp3

EDIT: better mp3: http://puu.sh/h7hZc.mp3
p/4035223/

ziin wrote:


Top left: source ogg
Top right: 128 kbps mp3 from source ogg
Bottom left: beatmap audio
Bottom right: youtube video audio Note the names are virtually the same.

I can almost guarantee that the source (best quality I could find was the ogg submitted to the contest) was not used. Instead the 96 kbps mp4 audio stream from the video was used and encoded to 128 kbps resulting in the cutoff at 15kHz (which is expected of an mp3 at 96kHz).

It would be good to use a spectrum analyzer during the qualification process to confirm that the cutoff is above 16kHz (128 kbps mp3). The upper limit would be 19kHz for 192 kbps, but that's not important for obvious reasons. This is supposed to come out during modding, but clearly this is getting missed as it is a tedious process such as checking for metadata consistency prior to automation via AIMod and AIBat. It could be automated, but I sincerely doubt that anyone has the time or energy to figure something like this out. I wasn't able to find a simple program to do this automatically without visual inspection.
Also should be Disqualified cause the audio isnt really 128kbps

The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. The bitrate of a beatmap's audio file must be no lower than 128kbps and no higher than 192kbps. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file, contact one of the more audio-savvy BN; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you.
ziin
Just for reference here's the 192 mp3 I made from the 128 source ogg.
https://copy.com/kvRnwI7AjtRZRhyk
Irreversible
Hi there

Going to disqualify the mapset because of the bad quality of the mp3. Please use the one ziin suggested, also check out the spectral analysis to see the improved quality.


As you can see, the mp3 you use is cut off at 15 khz, whereas the other one starts being cut off at 18khz -> better quality.

Otherwise, the mapset is fine. Good luck reranking!
Some1
this might be a better mp3 http://puu.sh/hcu1V.mp3 (192)
ziin

Some1 wrote:

this might be a better mp3 http://puu.sh/hcu1V.mp3 (192)
There's no doubt it's better quality than the original, but it looks poorly encoded. If you explain how you got it it would help.
Topic Starter
BluOxy
Updated!
[General]
・New mp3 what ziin gave me! thanks.
・I changed offset (+20) at the same time to new mp3.
[MASTER]
・I deleted 00:23:208 (5) and changed 00:23:046 (4) to slider to red tick.
[INFINITE]
・01:23:289 (5,6) - i deleted these sliders and changed to stream.
・01:30:586 (6) - I moved more under left a bit.
・01:34:316 -01:35:208 (7) - I changed flow, check it!

I hope it will be going to be fine!
Nathan
I'll check when I get home~
Topic Starter
BluOxy

sukiNathan wrote:

I'll check when I get home~
Secretpipe wrote I want to check the map, you don't have to check! :D
Some1

ziin wrote:

Some1 wrote:

this might be a better mp3 http://puu.sh/hcu1V.mp3 (192)
There's no doubt it's better quality than the original, but it looks poorly encoded. If you explain how you got it it would help.
I got the mp3 from the sdvx kac album that was just recently released. I can send you the original mp3 so you can encode it or something
Nathan
Eh BluOxy already added in the new mp3, I'd rather not create more work since we would have to change offset again

Anyways on MASTER difficulty:
01:07:397 (4,5,6) - Changed 5 and 6 into a 1/4 slider for the logical emphasis on the notes, Azer pointed out this stack was unintuitive to play on stream xD
Couldn't just space it out since there wasn't much room on the playfield

@Secretpipe: Look out for Fast's version of this song, it's bubbled atm
Also pay attention to any weird timing problems since offset was modified with the new mp3

log
15:34 sukiNathan: hi :D
15:34 BluOxy: hi~
15:34 sukiNathan: I'll bubble black or white for now
15:34 sukiNathan: and secretpipe will qualify it again
15:34 BluOxy: I see!
15:35 BluOxy: really thanks, sukiNathan!
15:35 sukiNathan: no problem
15:39 sukiNathan: one thing
15:40 sukiNathan: on master difficulty
15:40 sukiNathan: azer actually complained about this on stream lol
15:40 sukiNathan: 01:07:397 (4,5,6) - this triplet should be spaced out since 5 and 6 are emphasized
15:40 sukiNathan: it's unintuitive to play
15:41 sukiNathan: maybe spacing them out to the right would work
15:44 BluOxy: hmm.. i have no idea about the flow, overlapping on this part is good for after 7
15:45 BluOxy: *just I feel so
15:46 sukiNathan: how about
15:46 sukiNathan: turning 5 and 6 into a 1/4 slider
15:46 BluOxy: ahh that's good
15:46 sukiNathan: ok :D
15:47 BluOxy: sure I'll update
15:48 sukiNathan: ok I'll just check for any unrankable issues now, should be fine though
15:48 BluOxy: i must go school now 7:47, thank you for your suggestion!
15:48 sukiNathan: goodbye~
15:48 sukiNathan: ill bubble soon probably
15:48 BluOxy: yeah, well I'll leave you! o/
ziin

Some1 wrote:

I got the mp3 from the sdvx kac album that was just recently released. I can send you the original mp3 so you can encode it or something
I found that too. It's clipped all to hell and I don't think I trust that encode. All the files exhibit the same clipping behavior. The purpose isn't to include perfect audio, it's to include "good enough" audio. I could fix it, but as sukiNathan said, I'd rather not create more work since we would have to change the offset again.
Secretpipe
Alright , everything is fine!

Ranked!


EDIT : Will rank tomorrow , the limit of qualified maps qualified has been reached today xDDD
Lach

ziin wrote:

Some1 wrote:

I got the mp3 from the sdvx kac album that was just recently released. I can send you the original mp3 so you can encode it or something
I found that too. It's clipped all to hell and I don't think I trust that encode. All the files exhibit the same clipping behavior. The purpose isn't to include perfect audio, it's to include "good enough" audio. I could fix it, but as sukiNathan said, I'd rather not create more work since we would have to change the offset again.
The best it's gonna get.

http://puu.sh/hexWq/4af064c2ce.mp3
Niko-nyan
RIP my score
btw re-gratz for u before tomorrow :D
Topic Starter
BluOxy
Yay, I got it! Thanks♪♪ヽ(´▽`)/
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