Elementaires wrote:

SPOILER

2014-12-25 15:42 Kruzon: hello elementaires, im sorry to bug you but could you help me testplay a map?
2014-12-25 15:43 Elementaires: sure
2014-12-25 15:43 Elementaires: :)
2014-12-25 15:43 Kruzon: thanks a bunch
2014-12-25 15:44 Kruzon: help me test this on hard difficulty
2014-12-25 15:44 Kruzon: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570142 BACK-ON - Cerulean]
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: i like it :D
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: but idk if somethings wrong but my accuracy was shit
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: hmm
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: no
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: do you feel anything wrong with offset?
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: yeah
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: no
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: haha
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: insane not yet
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: wtf
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: xD
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: haha
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: no dont
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: those are intentionally
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: for trolling
2014-12-25 15:50 Kruzon: hmm about hard, is there specific part that throw you off? something imbalance perhaps
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: yeah
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: if i remember right
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: wait
2014-12-25 15:52 Elementaires: 00:26:868 - 
2014-12-25 15:52 Elementaires: i think the LN here are unbalanced
2014-12-25 15:52 Kruzon: hmmm
2014-12-25 15:52 Kruzon: lemme fix it
2014-12-25 15:53 Kruzon: 00:26:868 (26868|5) -  represents vocal, if i need to move, i will have to move other long notes around it
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: yes but 
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: the last LN is hard for players
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: its uncomfortable
2014-12-25 15:55 Kruzon: what do you think if i changed 00:26:868 (26868|2,27174|3,27327|6,27786|3,28092|6) -  to single notes?
2014-12-25 15:56 Kruzon: if it still feels uncomfortable, i will remove the long notes and brainstorm different pattern
2014-12-25 15:57 Elementaires: yeah with singles notes it feel a lot more comfortable and "Hard"
2014-12-25 15:58 Kruzon: while i'm at it, i made 00:28:704 (28704|2,29010|4,29317|2) -  single notes too as comfort zone

Starry- wrote:

Hi! From irc~

[General]

Timing: ☒

1. Offset needs to be a little later imo. We're looking at the 6680~6700 region. Maybe

changed to 5470, it feels a lot better now
Audio: ☑
BG: ☑
Metadata: ☑
Preview Point: ☑
AiMod: ☒

1. Tags/Metadata conflict, maybe you didn't add the correct metadata to all diffs.

fixed, it was due to preview points lol

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[Hard]

SPOILER

Can be a bit more consistent in places.
00:05:240 (5240|3) - Move to red tick. fixed, thanks
00:06:388 (6388) I feel like the vocal here should be expressed with another LN. made 00:06:694 (6694|2) - into a long note
00:09:143 (9143|2) - Add at 6, inconsistent. added
Barely any notes here at column 6, maybe move 00:12:204 (12204|5) - to 6. got it
00:14:959 (14959|3,15725|3) - Spacebar feels cluttered. Maybe move:
00:14:041 (14041|5,14500|4,14959|3) - Shift right by 1. fixed
00:13:735 (13735|6) - Move to 5 or 4. moved to 5

00:25:521 (25521|5) - I don't think this LN is necessary, maybe make a normal note and put at 6. fixed, and while im at it I moved 00:25:674 (25674|4) - to 5

00:33:633 (33633|1) - Barely any notes at column 0, mote to 0. fixed, and modified several notes around the vicinity for stability
00:35:316 (35316|5,35470|4,35470|3) - Shift right one, too cluttered. shifted

00:45:265 (45265|1,45265|0,45418|1,45418|2,45572|3,45572|2) - Spread these out, too hard. Or maybe; 00:45:418 (45418|2,45418|1) - CTRL H.
i ctrl+h'ed it instead, and i ctrl h these also 00:45:725 (45725|2,45878|3,46031|4) -

01:16:184 (76184|3,76184|4,76337|4,76337|5,76643|2,76643|1,76796|1,76796|0) - Spread out.. Don't really fit imo. fixed
----> FROM THIS POINT: 01:25:674 (85674|0) - No notes at column 0. Spread things out. umm, i'll reconsider this part

01:54:296 (114296|0,114296|5) - Not audible enough for 2 notes. i see your point, fixed

Main problem in this mapset is just inconsistencies and spreading out your notes. Hopefully they can be fixed soon <3 trying my best to make it consistent, pain in the ass but no pain no gain

[NM]

SPOILER

OKAY. I looked here 5 seconds and found:

00:18:755 (18755|0) TO 00:27:786 (27786|0) - No notes in column 0 in between these. um should i removed notes on 0 or add? lol

The problem isn't mapping style since these are actually quite good. It's just fixing those inconsistencies.

Yep nothing much else to say really. Nice map, just fix the inconsistent things. Goodluck <3

ShikiNoHollow wrote:

IRC

23:43 Kruzon: test
23:43 Kruzon: *
23:43 Kruzon: here goes
23:43 ShikiNoHollow: okay
23:43 ShikiNoHollow: good
23:43 ShikiNoHollow: felllow malaysian
23:43 Kruzon: yea
23:43 ShikiNoHollow: np yout map
23:44 ShikiNoHollow: your*
23:44 Kruzon: sec
23:44 *Kruzon is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570978 BACK-ON - Cerulean]
23:44 Kruzon: i think there's imbalance in hard around quarter-time of the song
23:44 Kruzon: but cant really grasp better pattern
23:45 ShikiNoHollow: how come
23:45 ShikiNoHollow: your mod are good
23:45 ShikiNoHollow: your mapping is different
23:45 ShikiNoHollow: lol
23:45 Kruzon: haha
23:45 Kruzon: but really i understand as mapper point of view now
23:46 Kruzon: there are many modder with different ideas out there
23:46 Kruzon: i had to shift ideas frequently
23:46 ShikiNoHollow: your offset
23:46 Kruzon: but as a modder is easy
23:46 ShikiNoHollow: is way early
23:46 Kruzon: hmm
23:46 ShikiNoHollow: try this
23:46 ShikiNoHollow: 5470
23:47 ShikiNoHollow: and unsnap it
23:47 Kruzon: sec
23:48 Kruzon: done
23:48 Kruzon: ima upload
23:48 ShikiNoHollow: wait
23:48 ShikiNoHollow: lol
23:48 ShikiNoHollow: dont update so fast
23:48 ShikiNoHollow: ><
23:49 Kruzon: lol
23:49 Kruzon: in any case i just made changes on hard
23:49 ShikiNoHollow: lol
23:49 ShikiNoHollow: all diff
23:49 ShikiNoHollow: 5470 offset
23:49 Kruzon: yes but
23:49 ShikiNoHollow: ??
23:49 Kruzon: could you try and see if it is comfortable first?
23:50 Kruzon: i need comformation
23:50 Kruzon: confirmation*
23:50 ShikiNoHollow: okay
23:51 Kruzon: perhaps i will stick with your offset once it's deemed better
23:51 Kruzon: because you see, so many gives me random offset
23:52 Kruzon: some gave me 1700+
23:52 Kruzon: some gave me 6000+
23:52 Kruzon: and even 600+
23:52 ShikiNoHollow: tggu jap
23:52 ShikiNoHollow: i mean wait for while
23:52 ShikiNoHollow: afk
23:52 Kruzon: okay
23:52 Kruzon: tyt*
23:57 ShikiNoHollow: im back
23:57 Kruzon: welcome back
23:57 Kruzon: btw if you prefer me speak malay i can
23:57 *ShikiNoHollow is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570142 BACK-ON - Cerulean [Cerulean Stream (Hard)]] <osu!mania> |7K|
23:58 Kruzon: spectated
23:58 ShikiNoHollow: the offset
23:58 ShikiNoHollow: is good
23:58 ShikiNoHollow: okay
23:58 Kruzon: yes
23:59 ShikiNoHollow: now for pattern , placement note , density
23:59 Kruzon: i will make changes to others
23:59 ShikiNoHollow: 00:05:776 - here
23:59 ShikiNoHollow: there got some gas sound , wzzzz
23:59 ShikiNoHollow: idk what it call
23:59 ShikiNoHollow: you can add LN
23:59 ShikiNoHollow: 00:06:082 (6082|1) - unnessecary LN
00:00 Kruzon: true, deleted
00:00 Kruzon: and added on gaz sound
00:01 Kruzon: made it like this 00:05:240 (5240|3,5776|2,6082|0) -
00:01 Kruzon: gas sound paired with longer note
00:01 Kruzon: or should i place it somewhere lese?
00:01 Kruzon: else*
00:01 ShikiNoHollow: the LN stop at same as the mid
00:01 ShikiNoHollow: 00:06:694 -
00:01 Kruzon: yea
00:01 ShikiNoHollow: heavy sound
00:02 ShikiNoHollow: can add more note
00:02 ShikiNoHollow: add 1 note
00:02 ShikiNoHollow: 00:07:306 (7306|4,7306|2,8225|1,8225|3) - this follow what
00:02 Kruzon: added
00:02 Kruzon: it follows nothing i just made it for decoration
00:03 Kruzon: should i make it single note?
00:03 ShikiNoHollow: lol
00:03 ShikiNoHollow: yes
00:03 ShikiNoHollow: single note
00:03 Kruzon: alright
00:03 ShikiNoHollow: that part also
00:03 Kruzon: fixed*
00:04 ShikiNoHollow: just 1 note is fine
00:04 Kruzon: 00:07:612 (7612|1,7765|2,8072|2,8225|1) - this part 1 note only?
00:04 ShikiNoHollow: note , 1= kick(beat) , 2 snare(heavy drum) , 3 cyambal crash sound
00:05 ShikiNoHollow: like this - 00:13:429 (13429|1,13582|2,13735|3,13735|6) -
00:05 Kruzon: then i'll delete these 00:07:612 (7612|1,8072|2) -
00:06 ShikiNoHollow: this - 00:07:306 (7306|2,8072|2) -
00:06 ShikiNoHollow: this one also delete - 00:06:082 (6082|5) -
00:07 ShikiNoHollow: 00:07:765 - heavy beat , can add a note
00:07 ShikiNoHollow: err
00:07 Kruzon: added
00:08 ShikiNoHollow: ohh
00:08 ShikiNoHollow: added?
00:08 Kruzon: yeah on heavy beat
00:08 Kruzon: its 3 notes now
00:08 ShikiNoHollow: lol
00:09 ShikiNoHollow: do you understand the note dsndity
00:09 Kruzon: yeah
00:09 Kruzon: kepadatan
00:09 Kruzon: i thought you asked me to add 1 more note here? 00:07:765 (7765|4) -
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: yess
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: added
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: coz heavy sound
00:10 Kruzon: haha
00:10 Kruzon: yes
00:10 Kruzon: i added that
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: i cant IRC to much
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: ><
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: can you follow up
00:10 Kruzon: yea
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: i post this
00:10 Kruzon: um but promise me to copy this into code later
00:10 ShikiNoHollow: gimme kds
00:10 Kruzon: and post so i give kudo
00:11 Kruzon: ofc

Starry- wrote:

Main problem in this mapset is just inconsistencies

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

Requested from queue for Normal+
Columns: 1-7

[General]
Fixed unsnaps

[Normal + ]
00:07:918 (7918|6) - remove, no sound
00:10:521 - remove a note, same sound as 00:09:755 -
00:14:653 - Add a note
00:14:806 (14806|4) - remove, no sound
00:15:572 - add a note, same as 00:13:735 -
00:18:021 - this is same sound as 00:16:490 - , you should add 2 notes
00:17:102 - remove a note because this is same sound as 00:17:561 - 00:17:867 - where you only had 1 note
00:18:786 (18786|0) - remove, no sound
00:20:010 - cymbal sound here, should be same as 00:16:490 - 1 LN is enough imo
00:20:316 - remove a note, it is actually same as 00:20:776 - 00:20:929 - 00:21:388 -
00:21:082 - 1 LN
00:22:000 - remove a note, same as 00:21:388 -
00:22:459 - ^
00:23:531 - this part is a bit hard, suggest separate to two hands instead of right hand only, it will be a lot better
00:24:908 (24908|3) - remove, no sound
00:25:521 (25521|1) - suggest to change to normal note and move to other column
00:25:214 (25214|3) - suggest to change to normal note here and add an extra note, since it is same sound as 00:24:755 -
00:25:367 - add a note too same as 00:25:367 -
00:26:898 (26898|1,27357|6,27816|0) - normal notes
00:27:357 - add a note here, same sound as 00:27:663 -
00:28:123 - 00:28:276 - also need another note, i suggest to make 00:27:816 - these kind of sound 2 notes and the other one 1 note
00:29:653 - plz why jack in normal at there, move to other column
00:31:184 - remove a note
00:32:714 - 00:32:102 - these two are same sound but different amount of notes, you might need to reconsider which sound you want for 2 notes
00:33:327 - remove a note
00:33:939 - add a note
00:34:551 - add a note
00:34:704 - remove a note
00:40:674 - add a note and remove a note at 00:40:827 -
00:44:347 - this is same sound as 00:44:959 - but 00:44:959 - has 2 notes suggest to remove a note at 00:44:959 - or add a note at 00:44:347 -
00:44:806 - same as 00:44:653 -
00:45:418 (45418|4) - remove
00:45:418 - 00:45:572 - 00:45:265 - should all be the same
00:50:470 (50470|4,50623|5,50623|6) - ctrl+j
00:52:918 (52918|3,53072|1,53072|4) - ^
00:55:367 - remove a note, same as 00:55:214 -
00:58:429 (58429|6,59041|0) - switch hand
01:03:327 - remove a note, same as 01:04:245 - different from 01:02:408 -
01:08:531 (68531|5) - move to other column, left hand
01:17:561 -01:18:021 - remove a note
01:18:480 - delete one and move one up to 01:18:633 -
01:19:551 - remove all and add a LN to 01:19:857 - like 00:15:878 (15878|5) -
pretty much same problem repeat over and over, I believe you can find and fix them yourself ^^
so I won't be pointing all out
01:29:653 - LN ends here
01:37:000 - LN conflict with Hard https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2388421
01:46:796 (106796|4,107255|2) - 01:52:153 (112153|3) - move to other column
01:55:521 - LN conflict with hard http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2388429
01:59:194 (119194|2) - same, LN conflicts https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2388433
02:11:592 (131592|1,131898|5,132510|4) - same problem https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2388435 not really suggesting to put those kind of LNs like http://puu.sh/dJjZH/b734fe0d28.jpg
02:17:408 - suggest to change this > http://puu.sh/dJk1y/ffaca4b221.png maybe connect the 2 LNs
02:18:327 - add LN like 00:15:878 (15878|5) -end 02:18:633 -

Starry- wrote:

Main problem in this mapset is just inconsistencies

you can try to listen with 50% playback, it helps a lot

Nice song, and good luck >w<)b
I'll give a star

thank you for your helps and star!

17VA wrote:

1,2,3,4(space),5,6,7

I will check hard for now

you should put more notes. A lot of drums/sounds were skipped. I'm avoiding over-mapping vocal map, this one also not supposed to be hard. therefore i mapped obvious-sounded snare,drums and instruments, and vocal for this song.

you should play bms patterned beatmaps.... like davteezy, doorknob's converts... because you can learn how2map mania. if i have time why not

[Hard]

00:06:694 - add at 7. strong beat added

00:06:694 (6694|1,7000|0,7306|1) - how about this? http://puu.sh/dJW5o/071e849014.jpg move to 1,2,1 fixed, and added some pattern along

00:07:765 (7765|1,7765|5,7765|4) - delete one note. not a strong beat. deleted, thanks

00:10:214 - add at 1 okay

00:11:592 - ^^ alright

00:14:041 - ^^ cool

00:14:959 (14959|1) - move 3 and add note at 7. 12312 incomplete? stair pattern looks awkward. i made different pattern now

00:15:265 - add no thanks

00:18:327 - add at7. Symmetrical pattern looks stable. you're right

00:23:837 - add here added

00:26:286 (26286|2) - http://puu.sh/dJWkf/1961952bf8.jpg ? nu-uh

00:28:429 (28429|1) - delete this and 00:28:123 (28123|6) - move it to 00:28:429 - okay, and i change the pattern a bit as well

00:35:776 (35776|1) - http://puu.sh/dJWnb/9f7aa10571.jpg looks awkward. rearrange this. arranged

00:45:725 - add at 1 agreed, added

00:50:163 - http://puu.sh/dJWr6/185bd1ce04.jpg okay,it looks cute now

00:53:378 (53378|2,53531|1,53531|0) - move right (+1 column) no thanks

00:55:367 - ~~ add notes at every 1/1 lines. no thanks

02:25:674 (145674|5,145827|6,145827|4) - ctrl + h sure

02:25:980 - add note at 2,4 (strong beat) added, thanks for noticing this

[normal +] i will check this afterward

00:12:510 - http://puu.sh/dJWMA/daba5625fc.png this way might be better yes it does, thanks

00:14:959 - move some notes to 1 or add note at 1 fixed, and i move 00:14:959 (14959|4) - to 4

00:18:327 (18327|4,18480|6,18633|4) - move to 626, I dont recommend repeating same columns. fixed

00:18:327 (18327|4,18480|6,18633|4) - move to 6 fixed

00:20:010 - add 1,6. strong beat thanks for noticing, fixed

00:20:776 (20776|4,20929|5,21082|6) - vocal's tone is go down, but note is go up. you should re arrange this nice, fixed thanks

00:21:694 (21694|1) - move to 00:21:847 - cool, fixed

00:22:000 (22000|2) - move to 4 or 5 moved to 5. fixed

00:23:225 (23225|0,23378|1,23531|6,23531|0,23684|5) - This pattern makes finger-stress(?), 00:23:378 (23378|1,23684|5) - move to 3,5 i made a series of short jacks instead, stressful but lesser i guess, lol

00:25:214 (25214|2) - move to 2. okay

00:25:980 strong drum beat but only one note? added note to col 1

I recommend delete these unnecessary notes 00:37:612 (37612|6,38225|5) - deleted

00:44:500 (44500|6,44653|5,44806|4,44959|6,45112|4) - you should think about two-hand balancing. left handed line is empty agreed. i mirrored them

00:45:725 - add 1 or 7 or both added to both side, thanks

00:46:031 (46031|3) - move to 1. looks strange moved. it looks cute now

01:00:265 (60265|3) - ^^ hmm? what should i do here.. haha

01:20:470 (80470|2,80776|1,81082|2) - move this to 1,2,1 moved

01:21:235 (81235|4,81235|3) - this longnotes looks very awkward i made them pairs of single note instead, looks like cute couple now

01:22:000 (82000|5,82153|3,82306|1,82306|5,82612|1,82918|1,82918|5,83225|1,83531|5,83684|1,83684|5) - nah... show me the way

01:27:510 - ~~ 6,7 line is empty... pls re arrange this part re-arranged

01:39:755 - ~~ first line is empty... you should add notes are rearrange here pardon me? i don't understand (there's note on 1 also)

01:47:255 (107255|2,107408|3,107408|4) - move to left (-1 columns) fixed

space jack is not a good idea in normal diff. 01:52:153 (112153|3) - fixed

01:53:531 (113531|6,113531|0,113684|0,113684|6) - move to 3,5. quite nice, thanks. fixed

thank you for your help, appreciate it

Muu-chan wrote:

Hi kruzon san, a little Note density mod here as request Maybe a little suggestion too. Don't bit me because you know, my 7K is bad :< lol
here we go..
Normal
btw i don't see any kiai time here haven't added yet
* 00:06:694 (6694|1) - maybe add 1 more note ^^ added
* 00:07:612 (7612|5) - ^ the sound isn't that loud for 2 notes
* 00:08:072 (8072|5) - i suggest to move this on 00:08:225 - (but its fine if that's your pattern or following something sound [i can't get what sound in this part] if so, just add note on 00:08:225)* if you listen closely you will find that 00:08:072 (8072|4) - has faint drum similar as this 00:07:612 (7612|4) -
* 00:10:061 (10061|3,10214|1) - i suggest to choose one from these two notes to add 1 more note ^^ (because one has strong cymbal sound, the other have strong drum beat. Since it is normal, choose one xD) fixed
* 00:10:521 (10521|4) - i suggest to move this on 00:10:674 - ^^ * um faint drum sound exists
* 00:12:663 (12663|2) - maybe add 1 more note here^^ if i added a note there, then there will be no impact difference with this 00:13:123 (13123|2,13123|0) - , which is suppose to be louder
* 00:12:970 (12970|3) - i suggest to move this on on 00:13:123 - :> there is sound
* 00:14:806 - i suggest to add a note here for the pattern xD * i don't hear anything here..
* 00:15:878 (15878|0,15878|2,15878|5) - i don't get it why 3 notes here :< i suggest to move 1 note to 00:16:184 - since it has same instrument sound well, 00:15:878 (15878|0) - represents loud drum occured, if there's only 2 notes here it would follow 00:16:490 (16490|6,16490|4) - which doesn't have loud drum but simple snare
* 00:16:490 - nah that's it, in this part. I suggest to add 1 more note for Loud vocal xD if i added note, then the 3 notes below lost it's meaning
* 00:17:867 (17867|2) - i suggest to move this on 00:18:021 - * try to listen closely
* 00:20:010 - maybe add one more note here^^ agreed
* 00:20:316 (20316|1) - * xDD listen again..
* 00:22:765 (22765|1) - * ...
* 00:23:990 (23990|5) - um maybe this note is on 00:24:143 - (following the last pattern on 00:14:347 (14347|1) - )^^ ah, i forgot a note on 00:24:143 (24143|3) - , added there instead
* 00:24:296 (24296|4,24755|4) - maybe adding 1 more note beside these notes^^ agreed, added
* 00:24:602 - maybe adding noet here^^ fixed
* 00:25:214 (25214|3) - etto, this LN means what sound kruzon san? i suggest if you following vocal, move on this 00:25:214 (25214|3) - )yes it is following vocal
* 00:25:827 (25827|5) - this LN too.. if kruzon san following the vocal, i suggest to move on 00:25:980 - agreed. thanks for noticing this
* 00:25:061 - and maybe you miss a note here.. i hear there's a beat on that. added note on 3
* 00:25:674 (25674|6) - move this note to 00:26:286 - kruzon san, because i hear that in the 00:26:286 - has more strong sound than 00:25:674 true, thanks for noticing
* 00:27:663 (27663|5) - * hihih^^ lol
* 00:29:806 (29806|5) - maybe add a note here for strong cymbal sound yes, fixed
* 00:32:561 (32561|2) - i suggest to delete this, but it's okay if this is your pattern kruzon san xD but there is sound..
* 00:33:939 - maybe add a note here~ but this 00:34:704 (34704|5,34704|1) - is louder with 2 notes, adding will make them same 2 notes eventhough the latter is louder..
* 00:36:388 - maybe add 1 more note here~ agreed. fixed
* 00:38:378 (38378|1) - i suggest to move this note to 00:38:531 - hmm
* 00:41:286 - maybe add 1 more note here~ fixed
* 00:41:898 (41898|1) - i suggest to delete this :3 one one is enough no thanks
* 00:45:418 (45418|4) - i suggest to change this LN to normal note^^ ok guess why i put hold notes here, listen again
* 00:46:184 - maybe add 1 more note here~ yes, fixed
* 00:48:480 (48480|3) - * i think you will listen better if you use headphone c:
* 00:50:929 (50929|4) - ^^
* 00:55:367 (55367|0,55367|4) - i suggest move one from these two notes to 00:55:521 - agreed, fixed
* 00:55:980 - maybe add a note here~ lol but there's no sound here
* 00:56:133 (56133|5) - i suggest this LN star from 00:56:286 ~ 00:56:745 - (because i don't know what is that LN means by placing on that point kruzon san :<) 00:56:133 (56133|5) - actually this is legit vocal note, however it's not stable since other notes around the area follows instrument. therefore, i will move it 1 tick higher. fixed
* 01:05:163 (65163|0,65163|5) - i suggest to move one from this note to 01:05:470 - for strong beat and vocal. 01:05:163 (65163|5,65163|0) - there's quite loud drum here o.o. To Be Continued.. lol
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01:10:367 ~ 01:28:735 - i saw that between that timing point has same pattern, so my mod is same at this point. Kruzon san could recheck which part you applied from my mod and then applied too in this timing xD
* 01:18:327 (78327|2) - i suggest to move it to 01:18:480 -
* 01:27:663 (87663|5) - i suggest to delete this one :>
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* 01:29:194 (89194|3) - ^
* 01:29:653 - maybe add a note here or a LN until 01:29:959 -
* 01:32:408 (92408|2,94857|6,94857|0) - these notes (include the LN) should at here kruzon san 01:34:704 -
* 01:37:000 (97000|4) - if this LN supposed to guitar sound, it should start here kruzon san 01:37:153 - ^^
* 01:37:000 - and if you applied that, add double notes here :3
* yeah like this one 01:39:449 (99449|5,99602|4,99602|2,99602|1) - or you could follow these pattern for two points before this.
* 01:42:510 (102510|2) - i suggest to move this to 01:42:357 - ^^ or this one 01:42:051 (102051|0) - move to 01:41:898 -
* 01:43:429 - maybe add a note here ^^
* 01:46:949 (106949|4) - i suggest to move this 01:46:949 (106949|4) - on 01:46:796 -
* 01:49:704 (109704|4) - i suggest to delete it^^
* 01:52:306 - maybe add one more note here~
* 01:53:990 (113990|0) - i suggest to delete it~
* 01:54:449 (114449|2) - this LN is okay if you're following vocal, kruzon san. But if you following guitar, it should at 01:54:296 - and stop at 01:55:061 -
* 01:55:521 (115521|2) - why don't make it this stop at 01:56:286 kruzon san?
* 01:59:194 - maybe add 1 more note here~
* 02:00:418 - ^
* 02:01:643 - ^
* 02:03:633 (123633|6) - i suggest to delete it ^^
* 02:01:643 (121643|3) - i think this LN should stop at 02:03:939 -
* 02:07:765 (127765|4) - huuaaa what is this short LN ;w; arcwin san told me should change/delete this because of normal difficult :< ~ i suggest to change this LN 02:07:306 (127306|2) - into LN and this note 02:07:612 (127612|4) - to LN until 02:08:072 -
* 02:09:143 - add note here, strong sound^^
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02:09:143 - 02:26:286 - i heard in these timing has a same sound too ^^ but i saw a little bit different pattern with some LN ^^ its good kruzon san (y) i think you can recheck too with my mod in this part~ u.u
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sorry if i can't help much kruzon san :< i hope this is helpful :> im glad to mod your map~
sorry if i make a mistake, im newbie ;w; GOOD LUCK <3

2014-12-26 22:02 Kruzon: hello rays, are you free?
2014-12-26 22:02 Rayz141: yeah.. i think
2014-12-26 22:03 Rayz141: why?
2014-12-26 22:04 Kruzon: can you waste 2 minutes to test my map on hard ?
2014-12-26 22:04 Kruzon: ACTION is watching [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570142 BACK-ON - Cerulean [Cerulean Stream (Hard)]] <osu!mania> |Autoplay| |7K|
2014-12-26 22:04 Kruzon: i need opinions
2014-12-26 22:05 Rayz141: ok
2014-12-26 22:05 Rayz141: downloading
2014-12-26 22:05 Kruzon: alright, thanks
2014-12-26 22:05 Kruzon: i'll spec you once you got it
2014-12-26 22:13 Rayz141: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570142 BACK-ON - Cerulean [Cerulean Stream (Hard)]] <osu!mania> |7K|
2014-12-26 22:13 Kruzon: spectated*
2014-12-26 22:16 Kruzon: hi thanks for testing it,
2014-12-26 22:16 Kruzon: anything feels weird?
2014-12-26 22:16 Kruzon: is there any part that throws you off, which feels imbalance?
2014-12-26 22:16 Kruzon: what do you think*
2014-12-26 22:18 Rayz141: mostly on personal preferences though, because my key config doesn't use thumbs (S D F J K L ;)
2014-12-26 22:19 Kruzon: hmm
2014-12-26 22:19 Kruzon: then, do you think i should nerf it?
2014-12-26 22:19 Kruzon: or, is that hard enough for a hard?
2014-12-26 22:20 Rayz141: hard enough
2014-12-26 22:20 Kruzon: cool
2014-12-26 22:20 Kruzon: thanks for testing, appreciate your help
2014-12-26 22:20 Rayz141: 00:24:908 (24908|5,25061|6,25061|4,25367|5,25521|4,25521|6) - this for example, feels awkward to press w/ my key config
2014-12-26 22:20 Kruzon: sec
2014-12-26 22:21 Kruzon: 00:25:367 (25367|5,25521|6,25521|4) -  i ctrl+ h it instead
2014-12-26 22:21 Kruzon: maybe will reduce pressure, not sure
2014-12-26 22:22 Rayz141: though
2014-12-26 22:22 Rayz141: what do they follow? .-.
2014-12-26 22:23 Kruzon: 00:25:367 (25367|5,25521|6,25521|4) -  this follows drum which suppose to be jack
2014-12-26 22:23 Kruzon: but 00:24:908 (24908|5,25061|6,25061|4) -  doesn't follow anything though, it's just for decoration
2014-12-26 22:24 Kruzon: 00:25:521 (25521|2,25521|0) -  has 2 notes because of impact, thus 2 notes
2014-12-26 22:25 Rayz141: if it follows drum then pretty sure there's a drum sound here 00:25:214 - 
2014-12-26 22:26 Kruzon: that's because it start on 00:25:367 (25367|1) -
2014-12-26 22:27 Kruzon: this feels like not folowing anything though 00:25:214 (25214|3) -
2014-12-26 22:27 Kruzon: hmm
2014-12-26 22:28 Kruzon: oh ya these 00:24:755 (24755|2,25214|3,25674|5) -  follows vocal
2014-12-26 22:28 Kruzon: to be precise 00:23:837 (23837|5,24296|6,24755|2,25214|3,25674|5) -
2014-12-26 22:29 Rayz141: 00:25:214 (25214|3) - i think this one starts at 00:25:367 - actually
2014-12-26 22:30 Kruzon: you are right
2014-12-26 22:30 Kruzon: i'll move it*
2014-12-26 22:31 Kruzon: i just noticed this 00:25:674 (25674|5) -  is too long and not necessary
2014-12-26 22:31 Kruzon: should be same length as this 00:25:367 (25367|3) -
2014-12-26 22:31 Rayz141: yep
2014-12-26 22:35 Kruzon: 01:56:745 (116745|6,116745|2,117204|3,117204|5) -  are these pattern imbalance?
2014-12-26 22:37 Rayz141: no for me
2014-12-26 22:38 Rayz141: 01:57:510 - adding a note here would be nice 
2014-12-26 22:38 Kruzon: yeah
2014-12-26 22:38 Kruzon: should i add it beside 01:57:510 (117510|3) -
2014-12-26 22:38 Kruzon: or i move it way apart
2014-12-26 22:39 Kruzon: oh nah
2014-12-26 22:39 Kruzon: i found better place
2014-12-26 22:39 Kruzon: col 7 is quite good
2014-12-26 22:40 Rayz141: maybe column 2?
2014-12-26 22:40 Rayz141: feels better imo
2014-12-26 22:40 Kruzon: sec
2014-12-26 22:40 Kruzon: also good because left side feels kinda empty
2014-12-26 22:41 Kruzon: i'll move to 2
2014-12-26 22:42 Rayz141: 01:55:521 - feels this is the one that should be having 2 holds instead of 01:56:286 - 
2014-12-26 22:43 Kruzon: i see your point
2014-12-26 22:43 Kruzon: i added long note on 6 is that okay?
2014-12-26 22:43 Kruzon: 01:55:521 (115521|5) -
2014-12-26 22:44 Rayz141: wait a sec
2014-12-26 22:47 Rayz141: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2390969 haow about this?]
2014-12-26 22:48 Rayz141: how*
2014-12-26 22:50 Kruzon: hmm
2014-12-26 22:51 Kruzon: let me copy that for insane
2014-12-26 22:51 Kruzon: lol
2014-12-26 22:51 Kruzon: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/s/247099 BACK-ON - Cerulean [Assimilate (Insane)]]
2014-12-26 22:51 Rayz141: ...
2014-12-26 22:52 Kruzon: what i think is
2014-12-26 22:52 Kruzon: that pattern is kinda hard for hard, but it's good for insane
2014-12-26 22:53 Kruzon: im not being sarcastic, i will copy that pattern of yours
2014-12-26 22:53 Kruzon: i will make insane anyway
2014-12-26 22:53 Rayz141: estimated star rating?
2014-12-26 22:54 Kruzon: i estimated it will be around 3.7~3.9 stars
2014-12-26 22:55 Kruzon: i dont like the idea of overmapping this vocal map
2014-12-26 22:56 Kruzon: i made your pattern like this with slight changes http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2390997
2014-12-26 22:56 Kruzon: on insane, that is
2014-12-26 22:57 Kruzon: also later on please copy our chatlog and coded it to be sent on this song map thread later
2014-12-26 22:57 Kruzon: i want to give you kudosu, that's the least i can thank you with
2014-12-26 22:58 Kruzon: you help me spot quite many off-placed notes, appreciate your help
2014-12-26 22:58 Rayz141: oh right
2014-12-26 22:58 Rayz141: might want to rearrange 01:53:225 - to 01:54:296 - 
2014-12-26 22:58 Kruzon: sec
2014-12-26 22:59 Rayz141: also add note on 01:54:296 - 
2014-12-26 22:59 Kruzon: added that
2014-12-26 22:59 Kruzon: it seems symmetrical now
2014-12-26 23:00 Kruzon: perhaps i'll move this 01:54:449 (114449|4) -  to 6
2014-12-26 23:01 Kruzon: oh god i made it like these instead,
2014-12-26 23:01 Kruzon: osu.ppy.sh/ss/2391024
2014-12-26 23:01 Kruzon: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2391024
2014-12-26 23:04 Rayz141: was expecting a non-symmetrical tho :/
2014-12-26 23:05 Kruzon: alright
2014-12-26 23:06 Kruzon: how about this
2014-12-26 23:07 Kruzon: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2391045
2014-12-26 23:09 Kruzon: ah i decide to move 01:53:225 (113225|5) -  to 7
2014-12-26 23:10 Rayz141: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2391061
2014-12-26 23:10 Rayz141: ?
2014-12-26 23:12 Kruzon: that seem neat
2014-12-26 23:12 Kruzon: i will use it
2014-12-26 23:13 Rayz141: also for 01:55:521 - on insane
2014-12-26 23:13 Rayz141: looks kinda random but
2014-12-26 23:13 Rayz141: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2391068
2014-12-26 23:14 Kruzon: sec i'll apply it
2014-12-26 23:14 Kruzon: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/571796 BACK-ON - Cerulean [Assimilate (Insane)]]
2014-12-26 23:16 Kruzon: these 01:56:745 (116745|6,116745|0) -
2014-12-26 23:16 Kruzon: feels like it should be on 2 and 6 instead
2014-12-26 23:18 Rayz141: up to you
2014-12-26 23:22 Rayz141: you sure to /savelog and post this? didn't feel like helping much :/
2014-12-26 23:22 Kruzon: well i'll stop now, also dont forget to send this chat log to this map thread later
2014-12-26 23:22 Kruzon: ima give you kudosu
2014-12-26 23:23 Kruzon: i'll be away now, see you around
2014-12-26 23:23 Rayz141: k bye o/

17VA wrote:

you should play bms patterned beatmaps.... like davteezy, doorknob's converts... because you can learn how2map mania.

_S u w a k o_ wrote:

random mod, i can't make sure that it will be helpful for you..

[hard diff]

00:07:765 (7765|5) - move to 4 okay

00:09:143 - add notes, makes simliar like here. 00:06:694 - and it feels better to play. agreed. fixed

00:09:755 - ^ changed to single note. fixed

00:10:674 - ^ ( i just pointing out parts which are follow 1/1 beat. ) hmmmmmmmmmm

00:10:214 (10214|2) - move to 1 ok

00:10:214 (10214|0) - move to 3 ok

00:11:286 - add notes. cool, i added a long note on 00:11:286 (11286|5) -

00:13:888 (13888|2) - move to 2 fixed

00:14:806 (14806|0) - move to 4 fixed, thanks

00:18:021 - add note 1,7 added, it looks cute now

00:18:480 - add note 6 okay, more moe now

00:18:939 - add notes added to 1

00:18:939 - add note 5 do you mean 6?

00:20:470 (20470|6,20470|2,20470|4) - these part sounds are better to be LN which is end 00:20:776 - here fixed, it looks like noodles now

or make 00:21:082 (21082|6,21082|1,21082|4) - it to short notes no thanks, i love noodles pattern

00:21:082 - add note no thanks. i think 3 are enough to make people suffer on hard

00:22:765 (22765|0) - move to 2 agreed. fixed, thanks

00:22:918 (22918|2) - move to 4 fixed

00:23:531 (23531|4) - move to 4 fixed

00:24:755 (24755|2) - LN stop 00:25:061 - here nice, thanks for noticing this. fixed

00:25:214 (25214|3) - i think the LN doesn't represent any sounds.

if you want to represent vocal sounds, you should start from here 00:25:367 - and stop 00:25:674 - good idea. i wanna represents vocal sounds. i'll do this

00:25:674 - add notes 5,7 fixed

00:25:980 - add LN which is stop 00:26:286 - here ok

00:27:357 (27357|6) - delete it, because the drum sounds 00:27:816 - 00:28:429 - here are same, but using 2 notes. ok

00:35:776 (35776|3) - this LN sound is start from 00:35:623 - here. fixed

00:37:000 - give some variation. added slightly different pattern now. fixed

00:43:276 - erm.. why 3 notes? i think the sound is not good to use 3 notes. ok, it's 4 notes now

00:44:653 - add a note for sound k

00:44:806 - ^ not sure what you're trying to say but i assume you want me to delete the long note, replace it with single note..fixed

00:45:265 - 00:45:572 - since the diff icon is 'Hard', this kind of patterns would be a bit hard pattern. agreed. it might looks cool but i realized it's quite hard for hard. since i cant make it worse changing them to jack notes, i'll use your pattern

i suggest such it http://puu.sh/dK7Um/10f676bc7d.jpg accepted

00:46:184 - 00:54:143 - i think you missed too many drum / electric guitar sounds, Finally, someone pointed out this area. Yes, it lacks notes here because idk why, it somehow hard to map on this part only, kinda obscure.. im still trying to figure out which pattern suits the best here

i hope that you will re-check here to catch more beats.

00:54:908 (54908|5) - move to 2 ok

00:54:908 (54908|6) - move to 3 lol pattern, ok moe

00:55:521 (55521|5) - LN stop 00:55:980 - here nice, thanks for noticing

00:55:827 (55827|3) - up this LN to 00:55:980 - 00:56:286 - i know right

00:57:357 (57357|3) - down 00:57:204 - here or add a note 00:57:204 - here didnt add more notes, but i moved it

00:59:959 (59959|3) - LN stop 01:00:418 - here would be better to play alright, fixed

01:01:643 - add notes like 01:00:418 - here i see your point. added

or you need to delete short notes 01:00:418 - here i made it a single note instead

because 01:00:418 - part doesn't have drum symbol sounds too. makes sure about pattern identity.

01:02:867 - ^ added 2 notes

01:05:010 - add a note 4 ok

i know this part doesn't have sounds like 01:05:163 - 01:05:316 -

but whatever probably you missed a different sound here.. yeah only god knows, it's mysterious

01:05:470 - add notes ok

01:06:694 - why one note..? idk but i add 1 more it's 2 now

01:09:755 - add LN which is stop 01:10:367 - here. ah, nice. added

01:15:878 (75878|5) - make it as LN which is stop 01:16:184 - here sure

01:17:102 - 01:18:633 - http://puu.sh/dK90b/3ef26da233.jpg fixed, thanks

.. i imagined it from ctrl + h based pattern. i'm not sure this is better than now ;w;

but i think you need to give stream on left hands, you used only right hands stream here. it's not balanced. technically, yeah

01:19:857 - add a note 1 okay

01:24:449 (84449|5) - move to 3, feel better. are you left-handed?

01:25:061 - ... i don't know why you give only one note even u used 3 ~ 4 notes after 1/1 beat. i made it 4 notes here

01:25:980 (85980|3) - i think this is better to be a normal short note. made it the shortest ln on earth

01:29:653 - add a LN which is stop 01:29:959 - here. lol can't believed i disagreed, well i'll keep it be

01:29:959 (89959|5,90265|6,90418|3) - the LNs are awkward. rearrange please. re-arranged but still looks weird, but whatever

01:30:572 - add notes ok

01:31:337 (91337|0) - move to 2 ok

01:31:490 (91490|1) - move to 3 ok

01:33:939 (93939|3) - move to 5 ok

01:34:092 (94092|3) - move to 3 ok

01:37:153 (97153|6) - better to be LN.. i followed 01:37:000 (97000|4) - it i see your point. changed into LN

or like 01:39:449 - 01:40:061 - here.

01:42:357 (102357|3,102510|2,102510|5,102510|4) - ctrl + h alright

01:45:725 - add note added

01:48:174 - ^ ok

01:50:623 - ^ ok

01:54:449 (114449|6,114449|2) - LNs are start from 01:54:296 - here ok

01:55:521 (115521|5,115521|2,116745|2,116745|6) - i think follow 1/1 beat would be better.. i mean stop point. i made changes only on 01:55:674 (115674|5,115674|2) - which follow 1/1 beat end time

01:59:041 (119041|6) - it is better to be short note changed into single note

02:08:531 - add note ok

02:08:837 - ^ ok

02:11:592 (131592|1) - why you end LN 02:12:970 - here? 02:13:123 - this would be better i see... alright then

02:17:944 (137944|6) - it doesn't follow sound and awkward changed it into single note instead

02:21:388 (141388|2) - move to 5 or 6 or whatever moved to 5


good luck

ArcherLove wrote:

normal + recheck as requested for consistency

I see you not very consisten in putting double note
some double in kicks and some in snare

00:07:306 (7306|3,7306|0) - something like this only 1 note it's different from 00:06:694 (6694|1,6694|4) - when it's kick + cymbal
and then 00:07:000 (7000|5) - should be 2 note (because snare) and you make the next snare 2 note. do this for the rest ..
00:51:694 (51694|3,51694|0,51694|6,52306|4,52306|6,52306|1) - why need 3 when other only 2 ?
00:54:602 (54602|6,54602|5) - this only kick so 1 note is fine.
00:55:214 (55214|5,55214|6,55367|4,55367|3) - when sound like this is best (for me) to make distance at least 1 collumn and make it (example 1 and 3, 2 and 4, etc)
00:56:745 - this definitely need a note represent cymbal.
00:57:663 (57663|6) - this is wrong, should be because strong point is 00:57:510 - here.
00:57:970 (57970|5) - <- this is right, you do this right, good job!
00:57:970 (57970|5,60418|2,61643|3,62867|4) - this is great too, fit the sound.
01:08:531 - I see you only focus on snare here, well need 1 Long Note for me, but it's up to you
01:10:674 (70674|6,70674|3,70674|4,71286|5,71286|2,71286|3) - why 3 note again ? no cymbal (from what I can hear, and only snare which should be only 2)
01:11:898 - uups missing 1 note ?
01:13:888 - here, you can hear 2 sound. Cymbal and Kick, it's ok if you want to add 1 more note.
01:18:327 - add one note
01:20:776 (80776|6,80776|1) - you know what sound is this.
01:21:541 - need note.
01:23:531 (83531|5,83990|5) - normal, even normal + I think you should not use mini-jack (same collumn in 1/4 sound) but up to you again.
01:25:674 (85674|4,85674|0,85674|2) - why ????
01:26:592 - sound
01:27:051 (87051|3,87051|0,87204|5) - this is backward, Ctrl + G please. and 01:27:357 (87357|1,87357|4) - sound
01:28:811 - sound
01:28:888 (88888|1,89041|2) - snare, so should be 2 note.
01:32:102 (92102|3,92714|3,93327|3) - ^
01:33:786 (93786|4,93939|3,94092|5,94245|4,94398|6,94551|5) - something sound like this, actually you can pick between only 1 note or 2 note
01:35:163 (95163|2,95163|5,95163|4,95776|5,95776|2,95776|4,96388|4,96388|5,96388|2) - this has 3 note, and 01:38:225 (98225|2,98225|5,98837|6,98837|2) - only two, this is not consistence 01:41:286 (101286|5,101286|4,101286|2) -
01:41:898 (101898|3,102051|2,102051|4,102051|5) - hmmmmmmmmmmm ........ 01:42:510 (102510|4,102510|1,102510|2,103123|2,103123|4,103123|1) -
01:43:582 (103582|4,103735|5,103735|2,103888|4,104041|3,104041|1,104194|4,104347|5,104347|2,104500|3,104500|4,104500|6) - I like this one, nice!
01:45:572 (105572|2,105572|3,105572|5,106184|3,106184|1,106184|6,106184|4) - if you want to be consistence, this is definitely a no-no
01:46:796 (106796|5,106949|3,106949|4) - oops
01:48:021 (108021|2,109245|2,109398|1,109398|0) - you know what's wrong.
01:50:470 (110470|5,110470|0,110470|3,111082|0,111082|3,111082|4,111694|3,111694|0,111694|5) -
01:53:225 (113225|0,113378|1,113531|4,113531|2,113684|4,113684|2,113837|5,113990|0,113990|6,114143|1,114296|0,114296|5,114449|4,114449|2) - this is nice, but the problem for NM+ player is here 01:53:531 (113531|4,113531|2,113684|2,113684|4) - but up to you~
01:56:898 (116898|2) - this should follow the LN before, miss-placed for me <-
01:59:959 (119959|0,119959|2,119959|4) - well actually 2 note is enough, but 3 isn't wrong!
02:03:327 (123327|5,123327|2) - sound
02:09:755 (129755|0,129755|5) - sound
02:12:510 (132510|3,132663|5,132663|4) - hm
02:14:041 (134041|5,134041|0,134347|6) - I think this is wrong, the one with cymbal sound is only 1 note ..
02:15:572 - note is missing!
02:18:327 (138327|4,138327|2,138327|0) - 2 note ?
02:19:245 (139245|2,139857|2) - sound
02:21:388 (141388|2,141388|4) -
02:22:000 (142000|5,142000|1) -
02:22:918 (142918|2,142918|4,142918|6) -
02:23:837 (143837|2,143837|5,144449|2,144449|5) -
02:25:367 (145367|6) - add 1 note

your map is good, like you said, need consistency
keep mapping and be a good mapper!
not like me, I map shit lolol nah you do a lot better when you are actually serious about it
good luck!~
OMG WHEN I BECOME LIKE ZENX2NDyou didn't become like him, but yourself is unique in your own way and helped me much. Thanks ArcherLove

_S u w a k o_ wrote:

requested modding by you

please don't think that i can mod like before ;w;

because i already pointed out some technique problem and you noticed them. so it will be less what i should point out here.

maybe i would say such "add more note patterns" but since you don't aim it as insane difficulty, there is no problem.

whatever this diff's star rating is 3.23, it's enough to be 'Hard+' difficulty level.

[Hard+]

00:06:388 - add for 'Gen Kai' vocal sounds, represents the sounds with here 00:06:082 -

00:09:143 - add note

00:13:888 (13888|2) - move to 3 ( not major problem )

00:16:490 - 00:18:327 - this parts are don't use 1 column notes, it seems empty. move some notes to 1 for balance?

00:18:633 - add a note on 1

btw i'm not left-handed player LOL sorry orz i thought mania player ranked #20 below all left-handed haha

00:23:837 (23837|5) - move to 7 because of 00:23:684 (23684|5) - this part. it would be 'a bit' awkward to play i didn't know coz its beyond my ability to test this. fixed and thanks

below mods are for ^ it to make balance.

00:24:296 (24296|6) - move to 6

00:24:755 (24755|5) - move to 7

end

00:25:827 - add a note on 3

00:35:776 (35776|3) - this is not bad, but i can't understand that represents which sound. 00:35:623 (35623|5) - this is enough to be LN sound.

if i were you, i turned it to short note or re-arrange somehow. but now also ok imo..

00:40:367 - add a note on 5

00:44:347 - add a note

00:48:174 (48174|6,48174|5,48174|0) - makes it as LNs which are stop 00:48:480 - here.

00:55:521 (55521|4) - stop LN here 00:55:980 - ( to represent 'i' vocal sounds ) lyrics : wasurerare nai heya

00:55:827 (55827|3) - LN stop and 00:56:286 - stop here ( to represent 'he' or 'heya' )

00:57:204 - add a note on 4

00:57:357 (57357|5,57357|1) - http://puu.sh/dL9M9/1854a968f2.jpg better to play? idk agreed, i think more cute

01:00:878 - add a note on 4

01:02:102 - add a note

01:05:470 - add a note on 5

01:10:061 - gen kai

01:18:021 - i think i pointed out and suggest here before.. fixed inconsistencies

01:22:153 (82153|5) - move to 5

01:22:918 (82918|4) - turn to LN which is stop 01:23:225 - here

01:24:755 - delete 1 (moe)

01:25:980 (85980|3,85980|0) - LN stop on 01:26:592 - would be better..

01:27:663 - 01:28:429 - you gave 2,4,3 notes here. right? but i guess giving 2,3,4 notes will be better to emphasize.. alright

01:29:041 (89041|4) - turn to LN which is stop 01:29:194 - here. column is up to you moved to column 4

01:29:653 - add a LN on 4 which is stop 01:29:959 - here alright

01:30:265 (90265|6) - why i think this is meaningless as LN..? hmm.. kinda hard to explain but i delete it anywayhowever i leave it be on Hard difficulty

01:34:666 (94666|3) - delete fixed

01:34:245 (94245|4,94322|2,94398|4,94436|5,94475|2,94475|6,94513|1,94551|4,94551|0,94704|2) - ctrl + h lol i see

01:36:694 - add notes

01:43:582 - add a note

01:53:684 (113684|1) - move to 3

01:56:592 (116592|2) - short note? moe kunai no kai?

01:57:204 (117204|4,117204|2) - 1,7 okay

01:58:888 - add note

02:00:878 - add note

02:08:072 - i noticed that this is the end of lyrics. lyrics is "play more". so i hope that you check here for LN length. thanks for noticing. I applied fix to other difficulties as well

02:08:531 - 02:08:837 - add for 'Zettai' lyrics. but i think you intend that don't put here. sorry i intend to leave it empty

02:09:143 (129143|0,129143|5) - 02:10:214 - LN stop here would be better feel to play.. aye, fixed

02:16:184 (136184|1) - move to 3 okay

02:17:714 (137714|6) - if you used LN for vocal sounds, this is not good to use LN. i'll go to clinic and ask doctor check my ear tommorow

02:25:674 - http://puu.sh/dLazS/fec8c0e15f.jpg never mind if you dont like it.. i fall in love with it

02:27:816 - http://puu.sh/dLaC3/5f20090d16.jpg omg this is a lot nicer, thanks

good luck

playin14 wrote:

Hi here is my mod

click

column 0|1|2|3|4|5|6

[Cerulean Stream (Hard)]
00:09:143 (9143|0) - add note to 0 i think 3 is more than enough

00:11:592 (11592|1) - add note to 1 agreed. thanks for noticing
00:11:592 (11592|3) - add note to 3 nay
00:11:592 (11592|6) - add note to 6 no thanks

00:14:041 (14041|2) - add note to 2 nay

00:18:939 (18939|2) - add note to 2 nay

00:38:225 (38225|0) - add note to 0 hmmm

00:39:449 (39449|3) - add note to 3 i will, but on hard+ instead c:
00:40:061 (40061|1) - add note to 1 i'll think about this
00:40:061 (40061|6) - add note to 6 agreed, thanks for noticing

00:42:510 (42510|0) - add note to 0 i'll think about this

Good luck

1. 00:10:214 (10214|2) - change to a single note as 00:07:765 (7765|1,7765|4)
2. 00:16:490 (16490|2) - did you follow the vocal ? If yes add a long note at 2 from 00:17:408 to 00:18:021. If not just change it to a single note
3. 00:18:021 (18021|2) - This long note is better end at 00:18:633
4. 00:50:010 (50010|3) - It's better put at 00:50:163
5. 00:55:521 (55521|1) - change the end to 00:56:286
6. 00:55:827 (55827|3) - move the start to 00:55:980 and the end to 00:56:286
7. 00:56:133 (56133|5) - change the start to 00:56:286 the end to 00:56:745
8. 00:56:592 (56592|3) - remove this
9. 00:56:898 (56898|1) - move the start to 00:56:745 the end to 00:57:510
10. 00:57:663 (57663|3) - move to 00:57:204
11. 00:57:970 - add a single note at 3
12. 01:19:551 - add a single note at 2
13. 01:19:857 (79857|2) - change to a single note
14. 01:34:551 (94551|2) - ^^
15. 01:34:628 (94628|3) - remove
16. 01:34:700 - add a single note at 2
17. 01:34:857 (94857|0,94857|5) - remove
18. 01:37:000 (97000|2) - should be start at 01:37:153
19. 01:37:000 - add notes at 4 & 7 as 01:35:163 (95163|2,95163|5,95776|1,95776|5,96388|0,96388|5)
20. 01:43:429 - add a single note at 4. a drum here.

Fantastica wrote:

Hi~~~~
F-kun (Ant-chan) fall from sky come from Ant's STD/mania modding queue [NM/M4M/GD] :3
As Requested I'm only mod Normal+ :3
Key:
1|2|3|4|5|6|7

[Vermillion Sky (Normal+)]

1. 00:10:214 (10214|2) - change to a single note as 00:07:765 (7765|1,7765|4) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2. 00:16:490 (16490|2) - did you follow the vocal ? If yes add a long note at 2 from 00:17:408 to 00:18:021. If not just change it to a single note
3. 00:18:021 (18021|2) - This long note is better end at 00:18:633
4. 00:50:010 (50010|3) - It's better put at 00:50:163
5. 00:55:521 (55521|1) - change the end to 00:56:286
6. 00:55:827 (55827|3) - move the start to 00:55:980 and the end to 00:56:286
7. 00:56:133 (56133|5) - change the start to 00:56:286 the end to 00:56:745
8. 00:56:592 (56592|3) - remove this
9. 00:56:898 (56898|1) - move the start to 00:56:745 the end to 00:57:510
10. 00:57:663 (57663|3) - move to 00:57:204
11. 00:57:970 - add a single note at 3
12. 01:19:551 - add a single note at 2
13. 01:19:857 (79857|2) - change to a single note
14. 01:34:551 (94551|2) - ^^
15. 01:34:628 (94628|3) - remove
16. 01:34:700 - add a single note at 2
17. 01:34:857 (94857|0,94857|5) - remove
18. 01:37:000 (97000|2) - should be start at 01:37:153
19. 01:37:000 - add notes at 4 & 7 as 01:35:163 (95163|2,95163|5,95776|1,95776|5,96388|0,96388|5)
20. 01:43:429 - add a single note at 4. a drum here.

Ok... :3
Just warn you.... there's no kiai here.... i'll add them later m8
add kiai starts at 00:06:694 - 01:10:367 - and 02:09:143 -- Then add kiai ends at 00:26:286 - 01:29:959 - and 02:26:286
Good luck :3

Eternalie wrote:

Yaho~ from lordraika's queue << don't remenber da name don't blame orz...>> only Normal +

Will just give some suggestion , since welp i'm not the kind of destroying with a long mod xDDDDDDD Jk jk

N+
00:15:878 (15878|5) - You could also change that to 1/2 simple notes still it's fine this way nice, thanks

00:17:561 (17561|2) - You should make this LN following Bassline like you did here 00:16:490 (16490|2) - i concur
00:21:388 (21388|4) - ^_^

01:19:551 (79551|6,79704|4) - Add added

01:29:653 (89653|4) - following your mapping , add Ln here until 01:29:959 (89959|1) - following vocals~ hmmmmmm
02:07:765 (127765|6,127765|4) - you could make simples notes instead it's still fine b fixed

02:09:143 (129143|3) - End this here 02:10:214 (130214|6) - following bassline cool, fixed
also make this 02:10:674 (130674|5) - start here 02:10:214 (130214|6) - ^ same reason as above ok
so you can add another LN here 02:11:592 (131592|2) - until 02:12:663 (132663|5) - here ok
and start an other one from 02:12:663 (132663|5) - until around here approxiamtively or you will have to rework the whole next pattern ww ook

02:21:388 (141388|2) - wuat about making this LN ?nice, thanks, fixed
02:23:837 (143837|5) - ^ both following bassline hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm[/box]

That's all I found , >w<b good luck

DrawdeX wrote:

oh yus
gonna give this a star (/>w<)/

ArcherLove wrote:

hi Hard+ ? collumn =1~7
now, kick = 2 note, snare = 3 note
I will not point every single error with word, try to figure yourself what is wrong with note I point out.
(if you have 1 note but two LN, then it's enough for snares.)

00:06:082 (6082|6,6082|4,6082|0) - delete 2 of them, not strong enough for 3 note.
00:07:612 (7612|5,8072|5) - add 1 note each.
00:09:449 (9449|2,9449|3,10061|3,10061|2,10980|1,11133|4) -
00:10:980 (10980|1,11133|4) -
00:11:592 (11592|6,11898|3,11898|5,12204|0,12204|4,12204|6,12204|2,12510|1,12510|5,12663|4,12663|2) -
00:13:429 (13429|1) -
00:13:888 (13888|2) -
00:14:347 (14347|2) -
00:14:806 (14806|2) - need to be here 00:14:653 - add 1 note again
00:15:418 - need two note
00:17:408 (17408|5,17408|1) -
00:18:021 (18021|4) -
00:18:327 (18327|3) -
00:18:633 (18633|2,18633|4) - delete change only 1 note at 4 ?
00:19:245 (19245|1,19245|5) -
00:19:551 (19551|2,19551|4) -
00:20:010 - add note ?
00:20:470 (20470|4,20470|0) -
00:20:776 (20776|6,20929|5) -
00:21:694 (21694|3,21694|5) -
00:22:000 (22000|6,22000|4,22000|2,22000|0) -
00:22:459 (22459|4,22459|6) -
00:22:918 (22918|3) -
00:26:286 (26286|5) - move to 7 ?
00:26:592 (26592|4,26592|0) -
00:27:204 (27204|4,27204|1) -
00:28:429 (28429|4) - then 00:28:276 - add note to 5
00:29:041 (29041|5) -
00:29:653 (29653|6,29653|4) -
================================================
Actually too much inconsistancy I'm not going to write every wrong "kicks and snare" again o.o too looong
================================================
00:56:898 (56898|4,56898|2) - move here 00:56:743 -
01:18:480 (78480|3) - please move this somewhere
01:59:347 (119347|5,119347|1) - delete
02:19:857 (139857|0,140010|0,140316|0,140470|0) - avoid hammer please, move somewhere ...

ok I'm sorry I'm not as free as before ...
good luck again ..!

• it seems that you have many inconsistencies here. idk if you did it on purpose or not, but i think you should be more consistent when it comes to 2 notes or 3 notes in certain places. for example, 00:17:408 (17408|2,17561|3,17561|5,17867|2,18021|1,18021|5) - in this pattern you used 2 notes at 00:17:561 (17561|5,17561|3) - and 00:18:021 (18021|5,18021|1) - which is good to emphasize the drum. but then at some parts with similiar drums like 00:19:857 (19857|4,20010|3,20010|2,20316|1,20470|0) - you didn't put 2 notes at 00:20:470 (20470|0) - which ruin your consistency, and makes it a bit weird to play. i'll throw some suggestions to fix your consistency, but it's up to you whether you want to follow or not

1. 00:16:184 (16184|3) - add a note at 2 and 6? so it'll be three notes at once. because the previous note also has three notes 00:15:878 (15878|2,15878|5,15878|0) - i guess it'll emphasize the drum better
2. 00:17:561 - add a note somewhere? because you used double note like 00:10:214 (10214|1,10214|0) - 00:10:674 (10674|6,10674|3) - for consistency
   my suggestion for 00:17:408 (17408|2,17561|5,17867|2,18021|5) - 's pattern http://puu.sh/dT1Dj/f9a0369f46.jpg
3. 00:20:470 - add a note somewhere? so it'll be double note, for consistency. ( i suggest 6)
4. 00:22:918 - ^
5. 00:27:816 - add another note? for consistency with 00:27:357 (27357|0,27357|1) -
6. 00:35:929 - add a note at 5? kinda accent the drum better
7. 00:38:837 - add a note at 5 so it'll be consistent with 00:39:449 (39449|1,39449|4,40061|4,40061|1) -
8. 00:40:674 (40674|3,40827|4,40827|1,40827|5,41133|3,41286|5,41286|1) - i think this pattern kinda ruin your consistency with 00:38:225 (38225|5,38225|2,38378|1,38684|0,38837|1) - idk if you did it intentionally or not, i'd suggest this pattern http://puu.sh/dT2I7/67e95dfdf7.jpg
9. 00:42:510 (42510|2) - i'd prefer if you put this at 2 for consistency like 00:39:449 (39449|1,39449|4,40061|4,40061|1) -
10. 00:48:633 - add a note at 6
11. 00:51:082 - add a note at 1
12. 00:59:500 - add a note at 6?
13. 01:03:327 - add a note at 1. i heard a drum in the song
14. 01:11:439 - add a note at 6
15. 01:11:898 - add a note at 1
16. 01:13:888 - add a note at 7
17. 01:16:337 - add a note at 1
18. 01:19:857 - add a note at 2 and 6 to accent the song better
19. 01:21:235 - add a note at 1
20. 01:21:694 - add a note at 3
21. 01:23:684 - add a note at 4
22. 01:26:592 - add a note at 2
23. 01:29:653 - add a note at 5
24. 01:29:959 (89959|5) - might be better if you add some simple drum note around this long note
25. 01:32:408 (92408|2) - ^
26. 01:37:000 (97000|4) - if you listen carefully, the guitar actually starts at 01:37:153 - so i suggest this pattern http://puu.sh/dT3l5/1751d322be.jpg
27. 01:39:908 - add a note at 5? same like 01:37:459 (97459|2) -
28. 01:37:459 (97459|2) - add a note at 6, same like 01:38:225 (98225|2,98225|5,98837|5,98837|2) -
29. 01:41:286 - add a note at 3, same like ^
30. 01:43:123 - add a note at 2
31. 01:43:429 - the drum you're following actually start here, not 01:43:582 - so add a note at 3 here 01:43:429 -
32. 01:48:021 - add a note at 6. consistent with 01:47:408 (107408|2,107408|5) - also you used the same consistency at 01:50:470 (110470|0,110470|3,111082|0,111082|3,111694|3,111694|0) -
33. 01:48:633 - ^
34. 01:49:245 - ^
35. 01:52:306 - add a note somewhere idk 7? one note seems lonely and it ruin your consistency
36. 01:52:918 - ^
37. 01:55:521 (115521|2) - elongate this until 01:56:286 - ? same like 01:54:449 (114449|2,115061|4) -
38. 02:09:143 - add a note at 1 and 7? since its the start of the chorus, you should emphasize this part with 3 notes
39. 02:16:337 - add a note at 1? the drum is still playing here
40. 02:18:939 - add a note somewhere, it's the start of a new verse in the chorus, you should emphasize it
41. 02:28:735 (148735|2,148735|0) - kinda weird when you end this here while the guitar is still playing after that. i suggest you to make some long hold note following the guitar. my suggestion http://puu.sh/dT47B/5f12f6da2f.jpg

• there are still some inconsistent change with the pattern, but it's not really that visible because the pattern change is kinda consistent so yeah

1. 00:06:694 (6694|1,6694|4) - i think you should make this a three notes, to accent the start of a new verse. because this note is definitely has different vibe with 00:07:000 (7000|2,7000|5) - but currently both of them are 2 notes, which makes it less accented
2. 00:21:388 - add a note at 1?
3. 00:21:847 (21847|1) - delete this? there's no definite drum in this part
4. 00:35:929 - add a note at 7? to accent the start of a new verse
5. 00:48:939 - add a note. consistent with 00:46:184 (46184|5,46184|2,46490|3,46796|4,46796|2) -
6. 01:10:367 - i think you should make this a three notes, to accent the start of a new verse
7. 01:19:092 (79092|4,79245|5,79245|3,79551|1,79857|2) - kinda weird when there's a gap between them while the drum is continuously playing. i suggest this pattern http://puu.sh/dT5lF/cc43499874.jpg
8. 01:20:163 (80163|6,80163|0) - i think you should make this a three notes, to accent the start of a new verse
9. 01:29:653 - add a note somewhere
10. 02:28:735 (148735|4,148735|0,148735|1) - same like what i've mentioned in previous diffs

AlpacaCokelat wrote:

Hi! ok will try to mod this somehow
column order from left-right = 1-7

btw you should add some kiai during the chorus

[Starry Sky(Normal)]

• it seems that you have many inconsistencies here. idk if you did it on purpose or not, but i think you should be more consistent when it comes to 2 notes or 3 notes in certain places. for example, 00:17:408 (17408|2,17561|3,17561|5,17867|2,18021|1,18021|5) - in this pattern you used 2 notes at 00:17:561 (17561|5,17561|3) - and 00:18:021 (18021|5,18021|1) - which is good to emphasize the drum. but then at some parts with similiar drums like 00:19:857 (19857|4,20010|3,20010|2,20316|1,20470|0) - you didn't put 2 notes at 00:20:470 (20470|0) - which ruin your consistency, and makes it a bit weird to play. i'll throw some suggestions to fix your consistency, but it's up to you whether you want to follow or not

1. 00:16:184 (16184|3) - add a note at 2 and 6? so it'll be three notes at once. because the previous note also has three notes 00:15:878 (15878|2,15878|5,15878|0) - i guess it'll emphasize the drum better
2. 00:17:561 - add a note somewhere? because you used double note like 00:10:214 (10214|1,10214|0) - 00:10:674 (10674|6,10674|3) - for consistency
   my suggestion for 00:17:408 (17408|2,17561|5,17867|2,18021|5) - 's pattern http://puu.sh/dT1Dj/f9a0369f46.jpg
3. 00:20:470 - add a note somewhere? so it'll be double note, for consistency. ( i suggest 6)
4. 00:22:918 - ^
5. 00:27:816 - add another note? for consistency with 00:27:357 (27357|0,27357|1) -
6. 00:35:929 - add a note at 5? kinda accent the drum better
7. 00:38:837 - add a note at 5 so it'll be consistent with 00:39:449 (39449|1,39449|4,40061|4,40061|1) -
8. 00:40:674 (40674|3,40827|4,40827|1,40827|5,41133|3,41286|5,41286|1) - i think this pattern kinda ruin your consistency with 00:38:225 (38225|5,38225|2,38378|1,38684|0,38837|1) - idk if you did it intentionally or not, i'd suggest this pattern http://puu.sh/dT2I7/67e95dfdf7.jpg
9. 00:42:510 (42510|2) - i'd prefer if you put this at 2 for consistency like 00:39:449 (39449|1,39449|4,40061|4,40061|1) -
10. 00:48:633 - add a note at 6
11. 00:51:082 - add a note at 1
12. 00:59:500 - add a note at 6?
13. 01:03:327 - add a note at 1. i heard a drum in the song
14. 01:11:439 - add a note at 6
15. 01:11:898 - add a note at 1
16. 01:13:888 - add a note at 7
17. 01:16:337 - add a note at 1
18. 01:19:857 - add a note at 2 and 6 to accent the song better
19. 01:21:235 - add a note at 1
20. 01:21:694 - add a note at 3
21. 01:23:684 - add a note at 4
22. 01:26:592 - add a note at 2
23. 01:29:653 - add a note at 5
24. 01:29:959 (89959|5) - might be better if you add some simple drum note around this long note
25. 01:32:408 (92408|2) - ^
26. 01:37:000 (97000|4) - if you listen carefully, the guitar actually starts at 01:37:153 - so i suggest this pattern http://puu.sh/dT3l5/1751d322be.jpg
27. 01:39:908 - add a note at 5? same like 01:37:459 (97459|2) -
28. 01:37:459 (97459|2) - add a note at 6, same like 01:38:225 (98225|2,98225|5,98837|5,98837|2) -
29. 01:41:286 - add a note at 3, same like ^
30. 01:43:123 - add a note at 2
31. 01:43:429 - the drum you're following actually start here, not 01:43:582 - so add a note at 3 here 01:43:429 -
32. 01:48:021 - add a note at 6. consistent with 01:47:408 (107408|2,107408|5) - also you used the same consistency at 01:50:470 (110470|0,110470|3,111082|0,111082|3,111694|3,111694|0) -
33. 01:48:633 - ^
34. 01:49:245 - ^
35. 01:52:306 - add a note somewhere idk 7? one note seems lonely and it ruin your consistency
36. 01:52:918 - ^
37. 01:55:521 (115521|2) - elongate this until 01:56:286 - ? same like 01:54:449 (114449|2,115061|4) -
38. 02:09:143 - add a note at 1 and 7? since its the start of the chorus, you should emphasize this part with 3 notes
39. 02:16:337 - add a note at 1? the drum is still playing here
40. 02:18:939 - add a note somewhere, it's the start of a new verse in the chorus, you should emphasize it
    
41. 02:28:735 (148735|2,148735|0) - kinda weird when you end this here while the guitar is still playing after that. i suggest you to make some long hold note following the guitar. my suggestion http://puu.sh/dT47B/5f12f6da2f.jpg

[Vermillion Sky (Normal+)]

• there are still some inconsistent change with the pattern, but it's not really that visible because the pattern change is kinda consistent so yeah
  
  

1. 00:06:694 (6694|1,6694|4) - i think you should make this a three notes, to accent the start of a new verse. because this note is definitely has different vibe with 00:07:000 (7000|2,7000|5) - but currently both of them are 2 notes, which makes it less accented
2. 00:21:388 - add a note at 1?
3. 00:21:847 (21847|1) - delete this? there's no definite drum in this part
4. 00:35:929 - add a note at 7? to accent the start of a new verse
5. 00:48:939 - add a note. consistent with 00:46:184 (46184|5,46184|2,46490|3,46796|4,46796|2) -
6. 01:10:367 - i think you should make this a three notes, to accent the start of a new verse
7. 01:19:092 (79092|4,79245|5,79245|3,79551|1,79857|2) - kinda weird when there's a gap between them while the drum is continuously playing. i suggest this pattern http://puu.sh/dT5lF/cc43499874.jpg
8. 01:20:163 (80163|6,80163|0) - i think you should make this a three notes, to accent the start of a new verse
9. 01:29:653 - add a note somewhere
10. 02:28:735 (148735|4,148735|0,148735|1) - same like what i've mentioned in previous diffs i keep this c:

ok that's all. tell me if you're not satisfied with my mod through forum PM
goodluck~

xLoupGarou wrote:

Oss~ I'm here as requested

Well you said in your request that I'll only mod hard to I'll just stick to the request

My Mod

Column : |0|1|2|3|4|5|6|

Determination (Hard)

00:11:286 - Add a note at 6 ok

00:15:418 - Add a note at 2 woah this is actually quite helpful, thanks m8 C:

00:15:572 (15572|2) - Move to 6 alright

00:25:367 (25367|2) - Delete then no, it's long note represent the vocal, i keep it

00:25:367 - Add a note at 1 agreed, added

00:25:521 - Add a note at 2 and 5 no thanks

00:25:827 - Add a note at 1 and 5 hmmmmm

00:38:531 - Add a note at 5 i think no

00:38:684 (38684|2) - Move to 4 ok

00:38:837 (38837|4) - Move to 2 ok

01:06:541 - Add a note at 1 nay, im following instrument here

01:47:408 (107408|2) - Move to 1 cool, fixed

01:59:347 (119347|0) - Delete no thanks

01:59:500 - Add a note at 1 no thanks

01:59:653 - Add a note at 5 but i don't hear anything here

01:59:806 - Add a note at 1 again same reason as above

02:16:184 (136184|5) - Move to 6 hmmmmm

02:16:337 - Then add a note on 3 and 5 not loud enough for 2 notes

02:16:796 - Add a note on 3 you don't have any idea how much helpful this is.. thanks a lot for this!

02:16:949 (136949|3) - Start the LN here instead 02:17:102 - with the same ending no thanks

02:16:949 - Add a note on 4 alright

Well that's all, It's a really nice song. Good Luck

HOST wrote:

HI Kruzon mod from queue

column 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7


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[Starry Star (Normal)]

01:18:633 (78633|4) - move 7 ok

01:34:704 ~01:35:163 - u can change this part like this or other side ( 01:33:327 ~ 01:35:163 ) I use method 2, but did several changes on it

02:22:459 - add 6 ok

02:24:908 - add 7 ok


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[Blazing Heart (Insane)]

00:04:168 (4168|6) - move to 00:04:245 end 00:05:163 cool, fixed

00:57:663 (57663|4) - move to 00:57:510 or change like this ( 00:57:357 ~ 00:57:970 )
wow this is very helpful, thanks a lot C: fixed!

01:18:174 - add 6 ah, i see.. it does has slightly louder sound, agreed, fixed.
01:18:327 (78327|5) - move 7 yes, avoiding jack
then move single notes before -> after ( 01:18:021 ~ 01:18:174 ) cool, this is a lot better than my repetitive ones, thanks

01:23:684 (83684|3,83684|1,83684|5) - remove ok
01:23:684 - add 1 3 5 7 fixed


01:27:357 (87357|0) - move 2
01:27:510 (87510|1) - move 1
01:27:970 (87970|1) - move 1
01:28:276 (88276|0) - move 2
01:28:429 (88429|1) - move 1 All Fixed

01:59:194 - add 7 ok
01:59:347 (119347|1) - remove ok
01:59:347 (119347|5) - move to 01:59:194 This is very helpful too, i apply changes to other diff as well, thanks!

02:04:245 - add 2, 6 nice, good one, apply changes to hard+ and hard as well C:

02:15:878 - add 1, 7
02:16:490 - add 1
02:16:949 - add 6
all fixed

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good luck :3

Starry- wrote:

Hi! From Starry's MANIA Modding Queue!~

M4M, Normal diff, as requested.

[General]

To Do:

1. Add appropriate hitsounding.
2. Add kiai sections. -- 01:10:367 (70367) - to 01:34:704 (94704) - , 02:09:143 (129143) - to 02:26:286 (146286) - , etc.
3. Add preview point in a more appropriate place. -- 01:09:755 (69755|0) - Here is best for it.

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| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |  	(7K)

[Starry Star (Normal)]

As I said before previously, the mapset's errors all lie around the inconsistency.
When mapping, try to have a chart in your head. What is worthy of 1 note? 2 notes? 3 notes? etc.
It becomes a lot easier that way, when you identify each sound, to be more consistent in your mapping.

00:06:694 (6694|1,6694|5) - This is the start of the song, big impact, worthy of three notes. To be completely honest, I would change:

1. 00:06:694 (6694|1) - Move to 0
2. 00:06:694 (6694|5) - Move to 6
3. 00:06:694 (6694|3) - Add here at 3.

Simple chord, with a purpose.

The into pattern could use a bit of cleaning up as a result of this. I suggest to:

1. 00:07:306 (7306|1) - Move this to 4. Easy to hit because it's a white note.
2. 00:07:612 (7612|4) - Move this to 3. Space bar makes it a nice transition to go back to the pink notes.

Doing this gives a nice spread of each column. The main problem I see in this whole section is the fact that now, from:
00:06:694 (6694|6) - to 00:10:674 (10674|6) - there isn't a single note in column 6, and there could easy be some there. Try to rearrange a few patterns based like my suggestion.

00:10:674 (10674|3,10674|2,10674|6,11286|6,11286|3,11286|2) - Why on both of these are there 3 notes? Remove from both of them (3), since the space bar is somewhat overused now. (Used in the past 3 notes before this).

00:11:592 (11592|0) - Add at 4. Change of feel in the music because of the pitch of the guitar, and it's a big white tick.

00:12:510 (12510|4) - Column 6 is being neglected again, so move this there. Feels nicer, too.

00:14:347 (14347|1,14500|2,14500|5,14653|4) - You can spread this pattern out a lot nicer. I suggest:

1. 00:14:347 (14347|1,14500|2) - shift both left one.
2. 00:14:500 (14500|5,14653|4) - shift both right one.
3. 00:14:959 (14959|6) - Then as it approaches a white tick, because the music is about to have a bit of an impact again, it's good to centralise these chords. I'd move this to 4.

00:15:878 (15878|2,15878|0,15878|5) - Not worthy of 3 notes, remove one. Maybe the one at (0).

00:16:490 (16490|6,16490|0) - This, however, is worthy of 3 notes. Place maybe at 3 (spacebar).

00:17:867 (17867|2,18021|1) - Shift both left by one, to spread column 0 out.

Okay, from this point on, I kinda feel bad since I'm suggesting so much, and I don't want to take away from your mapping style - I respect that. I'll note down some general inconsistencies and pattern awkwardness from now on as we go along.

00:21:082 (21082|6) - to 00:27:816 (27816|6) -, then to 00:33:021 (33021|6) - , no notes in column 6. Rearrange a few patterns.

00:33:633 (33633|1,33939|3,34245|1,34551|3,34704|1) - Consider rearranging this pattern. Easy, yes. For a normal diff that is good. However, it's too repetitive, especially when the music calls otherwise for it.

00:43:123 (43123|5) - Add here at 1, like you've been doing the rest of the time.

00:46:184 (46184|2,46184|4,46796|4,46796|2,47408|2,47408|5,48021|2) - Eh? Why do you choose to change this pattern, where 00:41:286 (41286|1,41286|5,41898|5,41898|1,42510|1,42510|5,43123|5) - is all the same. Consider making the pattern the same as the one I just mentioned (but on those white notes instead), or make the pattern completely different.

00:48:021 (48021|2) - Add a note (4/5)

00:50:470 (50470|4,50623|2,50623|5) - CTRL+G, then move:
00:50:623 (50623|4) - to 4, or 6.

00:51:082 (51082|0) - No notes in this column for 10 secs. Consider rearranging some patterns.

00:57:510 (57510|5,57970|5) - I don't like the idea of this LN repeating on it's self from last time. Maybe shift this into column 4.

01:04:857 (64857|3,65316|3) - Highly recommend you do not do something like this for a normal diff. Newer players have a really hard time with the spacebar, so move this to somewhere more manageable.

01:10:061 (70061|1) - Add a note here (at 1) for other consistencies with other chorus sections.

01:10:367 (70367|5) - Remove this note, and add at 4 and 6. Need 3 notes for big impact, and this fits nicely.

From 01:12:357 (72357|3) - , I just see this:

SPOILER

Consider again, rearranging some of the patterns in this section to better fit.

01:19:551 (79551|4,79551|2,79551|6,79857|3,79857|1,79857|5) - Both not worthy of 3 notes, compared to the impact afterwards. Remove one from each.

01:20:163 (80163|3,80163|0) - Add a note here, maybe at 6.

01:29:959 (89959|5,89959|1) - Add a note here, somewhat impact.

01:30:878 (90878|3,91031|2,91337|2,91490|3) - Spread this out imo. Some people who use right thumb for space bar may find this troubling.

01:39:449 (99449|5) - Add a note here, but really, this should be following the 1-6 chord repetition.

02:08:531 (128531|2) - Add here, maybe at 2, for consistency with other chorus sections.

02:08:837 (128837|4) - At 4, for consistency.

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In general I do think this can be a good diff, it just lacks a lot of consistency, as I've mentioned a million times you're probably sick of it, so I'm sorry
Goodluck! I hope this was helpful to you.

[Shana Lesus] wrote:

Hello Kruzon
mod ready

[Unraveled Courage (Hard+)]
OD8 hmmm

00:08:072 (8072|5) - move to 3
00:25:827 - add note
00:26:286 (26286|5) - move to 7
00:35:776 - add note
00:55:061 (55061|3,55214|4,55367|5) - delete
00:56:745 - add note no thanks
01:18:633 (78633|3) - move to 5
01:28:123 (88123|1,88123|5) - delete
01:28:429 (88429|0) - delete
01:28:429 (88429|2) - move to 2
01:28:429 (88429|4) - move to 4
01:28:429 (88429|6) - move to 6
01:30:572 - add note
02:27:816 (147816|3,148123|4,148429|5) - delete no thanks

[Blazing Heart (Insane)]
OD8 hmmmmmmmmm

00:13:582 - add note
00:13:888 - ^
00:15:725 - ^ nayy
00:20:929 - ^
00:23:990 - ^
00:24:602 - ^
00:34:398 (34398|4) - move to 6
00:34:704 (34704|2,34704|1) - move to 1 and 2 nice, good one!
00:34:704 (34704|5,34704|4) - move to 6 and 7 woohoo!
00:35:010 - add note
00:39:449 (39449|4) - move to 7
00:40:061 (40061|4) - move to 2
00:43:582 - add note
00:45:265 (45265|3) - move to 5
00:45:418 (45418|2) - move to 6
00:45:418 (45418|4) - delete i'll think about it, kinda indecisive to remove 00:45:265 (45265|2,45265|3,45418|3,45418|2,45418|4,45572|2,45572|3,45572|5,45572|4) -
00:45:572 (45572|3,45572|5) - delete nay
00:45:725 - add note nay
00:45:878 (45878|2,45878|3) - delete
00:46:031 - add note

[Overall]
Check out these two diff by a speed of 25%

Good luck !!!