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FlamingRok
Hello, from the Priority Modding Queue! I had a lot of fun modding this one, it was well done! The following are purely suggestions, and do not need to be added in if you feel it is not necessary.

d=don
k=kat
D=large don
K=large kat

[TwilightForest's Kantan]

00:01:291 (3) (4) (5) Change these notes to k, to match the higher pitched sounds.
00:03:691 (8) (9) (10) ^
00:06:091 (13) (14) (15) ^
00:08:491 (18) (19) (20) I'd personally change these from d d k to k k d.
00:18:691 (41) I think this should be a d.
00:19:291 (42) This should be a D.
00:34:891 (78) (79) These both should be k to keep consistency with the previous patterns.
01:06:091 (41) Change to a k to match the higher pitched sound.
01:06:691 (43) Change to d for the opposite reason.
01:15:691 (65) Change to a k.
01:16:291 (67) Change to a d.
01:31:891 (98) Change to a k.
01:33:091 (101) ^
01:51:691 (31) (32) Change both to a k.
01:52:291 (33) (34) Change both to a d.
01:56:491 (42) Change to a k.
02:01:291 (51) ^
02:45:091 (22) (23) Swap these two notes around with each other.
03:22:891 (26) (27) (28) Change from d d k to k k d.
03:27:691 (36) Change to a k.
03:32:491 (44) ^
03:46:891 (78) (79) Change both to a k.
03:47:491 (80) (81) Change both to a d.
03:51:691 (89) Change to a k.
03:56:491 (99) (100) Change both to a k.
03:57:091 (101) (102) Change both to a d.

[Futsuu]
01:01:291 (41) Change to a k.
01:10:891 (66) ^
01:26:491 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) I must agree with bananannian here, changing the even numbers to K and the odd numbers to d would suit this much better.
01:31:291 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109) Reverse this entire section. k hits the high pitch, and d hits the bass drum kick.
01:33:691 (110) (111) (112) (113) Change all of these to a k.
01:42:091 (13) Change to a k.
01:42:691 (14) (15) I'd personally reverse these.
01:51:691 (44) Change to a k.
01:52:291 (45) (46) See 01:42:691 (14) (15) .
02:01:291 (74) Change to a k.
02:01:891 (75) (76) See 01:42:691 (14) (15) .
02:10:891 (105) Change to a k.
02:11:491 (106) (107) See 01:42:691 (14) (15) .
02:36:391 (27) Change to a k.
02:36:991 (28) (29) Reverse these notes around.
02:38:191 (32) (33) ^
02:39:391 (35) (36) ^
02:49:891 (61) Change to a k.
03:18:091 (15) ^
03:27:691 (46) ^
03:37:291 (77) ^
03:46:891 (108) ^
03:56:491 (138) Change to a k (I would do ^ again, but I think it gets stupid to look at after a while).
04:06:091 (169) ^
04:34:291 (270) ^ to match the pitch of the voice.
04:36:091 (276) ^
04:39:091 (286) ^
04:43:891 (302) ^
04:45:691 (308) ^ (man look at that beautiful mountain range)

[Muzukashii]
00:25:591 (115) Change to k to match pitch of voice.
00:47:716 (7) Change to k.
01:06:091 (95) ^
01:10:891 (115) (116) (117) All these should be changed to k.
01:15:691 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142)

Personally, I believe this pattern should look like this, but that's my opinion.
01:33:991 (210) (214) Change both to k, I feel this fits fine.
01:46:891 (49) Change to k.
01:56:491 (103) ^
02:01:291 (133) ^
02:01:591 (134) I personally feel this should be a d, but your choice.
02:06:691 (162) Change to a k.
02:10:891 (189) ^
02:11:791 (192) Change to a d.
02:15:691 (214) Change to a k.
02:25:891 (15) (16) Maybe swap these two notes around.
02:35:116 Possibly add a d here.
02:45:541 (94) Change to a k.
03:18:091 (17) ^
03:22:891 (42) ^
03:32:341 (89) (90) Change both to d.
03:42:091 (45) Change to a k.
03:42:391 (46) ^
03:51:691 (101) ^
04:00:691 (153) (154) Swap these two notes around.
04:00:991 (155) Change to a d.
04:01:141 (156) (157) Swap these two notes around.
04:32:491 (104) Change to a k.
04:32:791 (105,106,107,108,109) Invert all of these (all k's become d's and all d's become k's).

Anyways, good luck onto this map, I hope it becomes ranked!
Topic Starter
streeteelf

FlamingRok wrote:

Hello, from the Priority Modding Queue! I had a lot of fun modding this one, it was well done! The following are purely suggestions, and do not need to be added in if you feel it is not necessary.

d=don
k=kat
D=large don
K=large kat

[TwilightForest's Kantan]

00:01:291 (3) (4) (5) Change these notes to k, to match the higher pitched sounds.
00:03:691 (8) (9) (10) ^
00:06:091 (13) (14) (15) ^
00:08:491 (18) (19) (20) I'd personally change these from d d k to k k d.
00:18:691 (41) I think this should be a d.
00:19:291 (42) This should be a D.
00:34:891 (78) (79) These both should be k to keep consistency with the previous patterns.
01:06:091 (41) Change to a k to match the higher pitched sound.
01:06:691 (43) Change to d for the opposite reason.
01:15:691 (65) Change to a k.
01:16:291 (67) Change to a d.
01:31:891 (98) Change to a k.
01:33:091 (101) ^
01:51:691 (31) (32) Change both to a k.
01:52:291 (33) (34) Change both to a d.
01:56:491 (42) Change to a k.
02:01:291 (51) ^
02:45:091 (22) (23) Swap these two notes around with each other.
03:22:891 (26) (27) (28) Change from d d k to k k d.
03:27:691 (36) Change to a k.
03:32:491 (44) ^
03:46:891 (78) (79) Change both to a k.
03:47:491 (80) (81) Change both to a d.
03:51:691 (89) Change to a k.
03:56:491 (99) (100) Change both to a k.
03:57:091 (101) (102) Change both to a d.

[Futsuu]
01:01:291 (41) Change to a k.
01:10:891 (66) ^
01:26:491 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) I must agree with bananannian here, changing the even numbers to K and the odd numbers to d would suit this much better.
01:31:291 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109) Reverse this entire section. k hits the high pitch, and d hits the bass drum kick.
01:33:691 (110) (111) (112) (113) Change all of these to a k.
01:42:091 (13) Change to a k.
01:42:691 (14) (15) I'd personally reverse these.
01:51:691 (44) Change to a k.
01:52:291 (45) (46) See 01:42:691 (14) (15) .
02:01:291 (74) Change to a k.
02:01:891 (75) (76) See 01:42:691 (14) (15) .
02:10:891 (105) Change to a k.
02:11:491 (106) (107) See 01:42:691 (14) (15) .
02:36:391 (27) Change to a k.
02:36:991 (28) (29) Reverse these notes around.
02:38:191 (32) (33) ^
02:39:391 (35) (36) ^
02:49:891 (61) Change to a k.
03:18:091 (15) ^
03:27:691 (46) ^
03:37:291 (77) ^
03:46:891 (108) ^
03:56:491 (138) Change to a k (I would do ^ again, but I think it gets stupid to look at after a while).
04:06:091 (169) ^
04:34:291 (270) ^ to match the pitch of the voice.
04:36:091 (276) ^
04:39:091 (286) ^
04:43:891 (302) ^
04:45:691 (308) ^ (man look at that beautiful mountain range)

[Muzukashii]
00:25:591 (115) Change to k to match pitch of voice.
00:47:716 (7) Change to k.
01:06:091 (95) ^
01:10:891 (115) (116) (117) All these should be changed to k.
01:15:691 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142)

Personally, I believe this pattern should look like this, but that's my opinion.
01:33:991 (210) (214) Change both to k, I feel this fits fine.
01:46:891 (49) Change to k.
01:56:491 (103) ^
02:01:291 (133) ^
02:01:591 (134) I personally feel this should be a d, but your choice.
02:06:691 (162) Change to a k.
02:10:891 (189) ^
02:11:791 (192) Change to a d.
02:15:691 (214) Change to a k.
02:25:891 (15) (16) Maybe swap these two notes around.
02:35:116 Possibly add a d here.
02:45:541 (94) Change to a k.
03:18:091 (17) ^
03:22:891 (42) ^
03:32:341 (89) (90) Change both to d.
03:42:091 (45) Change to a k.
03:42:391 (46) ^
03:51:691 (101) ^
04:00:691 (153) (154) Swap these two notes around.
04:00:991 (155) Change to a d.
04:01:141 (156) (157) Swap these two notes around.
04:32:491 (104) Change to a k.
04:32:791 (105,106,107,108,109) Invert all of these (all k's become d's and all d's become k's).

Anyways, good luck onto this map, I hope it becomes ranked!
Thanks for mod and wishes. :3 All applied, even from TwilightForest. :D
Backfire
Oni -
00:18:241 - these sliders aren't very good
from 00:48:091 - to 00:56:491 - isn't very good. I don't like how repetitive it is, for a part where you can change it up. Just the base combo, x x x xxxxx x is just bad for like, the sound and the point in which it is mapped. I don't know what to say, but just dont use 1/4 at this part and wait until the end of what I specified.
01:57:391 - kkkkd, listen to the sound.
02:16:891 - 02:31:291 - I am so disappointed you mapped only the vocals for this part. Oh well.
02:33:691 - starting here, you can do kdkdkdkdkdkdk, not ddkkddkkddkk, etc.
I don't like the xx xx xxx stuff, it is very repetitive and boring. Use variety.
02:56:491 - 03:09:732 - I am disappointed again you decided to go with vocals.
I wont even comment on other stuff
04:12:091 - 04:31:291 - This is awesome and cool, you really did good here even if it isnt the way i'd map it, I am happy you mapped this part appropriately.

I will say one thing, I don't like this map. That's not very constructive, but maybe it's needed. I never felt this is a good map for mapping in this specific style, the easier oni, and maybe if you have something like an Inner Oni this diff will look better, but as it is, I hate how boring it feels. The basic combo you keep repeating, x x x xxxxx x is really not good, you can try other things with the diff to make these parts not so repetitive. I also dont like the constant d d d d d d spam, try using more kats.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings in this mod, I only want to help you, because I don't think it's a bad map, I just don't personally enjoy it. If you make some major changes to the repetitiveness of the map, I can come back and give you a much better mod, right now, I think oni is a complete mess.

As it seems, however, your other diffs look good. I feel perhaps you may be a good easier mapper who is struggling with harder maps ?

I will add one more thing, check out Kazu's Inner Oni on his mapset - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/56850 for more ideas of what you can map in this way :)
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Backfire wrote:

Oni -
00:18:241 - these sliders aren't very good - fixed
from 00:48:091 - to 00:56:491 - isn't very good. I don't like how repetitive it is, for a part where you can change it up. Just the base combo, x x x xxxxx x is just bad for like, the sound and the point in which it is mapped. I don't know what to say, but just dont use 1/4 at this part and wait until the end of what I specified. - fixed
01:57:391 - kkkkd, listen to the sound. - fixed
02:16:891 - 02:31:291 - I am so disappointed you mapped only the vocals for this part. Oh well. - fixed
02:33:691 - starting here, you can do kdkdkdkdkdkdk, not ddkkddkkddkk, etc. - fixed
I don't like the xx xx xxx stuff, it is very repetitive and boring. Use variety. - It's part where it's hard to do it other way sadly, I'll thinking about using different patterns, but this isn't what you mean IMO
02:56:491 - 03:09:732 - I am disappointed again you decided to go with vocals. - fixed
I wont even comment on other stuff
04:12:091 - 04:31:291 - This is awesome and cool, you really did good here even if it isnt the way i'd map it, I am happy you mapped this part appropriately. - Thanks :3

I will say one thing, I don't like this map. That's not very constructive, but maybe it's needed. I never felt this is a good map for mapping in this specific style, the easier oni, and maybe if you have something like an Inner Oni this diff will look better, but as it is, I hate how boring it feels. The basic combo you keep repeating, x x x xxxxx x is really not good, you can try other things with the diff to make these parts not so repetitive. I also dont like the constant d d d d d d spam, try using more kats.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings in this mod, I only want to help you, because I don't think it's a bad map, I just don't personally enjoy it. If you make some major changes to the repetitiveness of the map, I can come back and give you a much better mod, right now, I think oni is a complete mess.

As it seems, however, your other diffs look good. I feel perhaps you may be a good easier mapper who is struggling with harder maps ?

I will add one more thing, check out Kazu's Inner Oni on his mapset - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/56850 for more ideas of what you can map in this way :)
Thanks for mod, I've thought what to change with these suggestions, but it's hard due to length of the song and constant rhythm. Anyway, maybe now it's better if you want to check. :3 And about that Inner Oni you linked... IMO it's overmapped as... :P
Backfire

streeteelf wrote:

Thanks for mod, I've thought what to change with these suggestions, but it's hard due to length of the song and constant rhythm. Anyway, maybe now it's better if you want to check. :3 And about that Inner Oni you linked... IMO it's overmapped as... :P
Yeah I know it's overmapped but it's only so you could maybe use some of its ideas for your map. It has a completely different way of mapping from your map, so I feel you could draw some inspiration from it :)
Konpaku Sariel
oni
00:03:691 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - ctrl + g
00:06:091 (37,38,43,44) - ^

00:56:491 (78) - ~ 00:56:941 (81) -
k__d__k

01:34:891 (282) - unsnapped
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Konpaku Sariel wrote:

oni
00:03:691 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - ctrl + g
00:06:091 (37,38,43,44) - ^

00:56:491 (78) - ~ 00:56:941 (81) -
k__d__k

01:34:891 (282) - unsnapped
All applied, thanks for a little mod. :P
Numbers 596108
Mod request by streeteelf

[General]

02:35:941 - Set the preview time
02:36:091 ~ 03:14:491 - I think it is the main kiai time, remove others ://

[TwilightForest's Muzukashii]

fine.

[Oni]

Timing :

00:00:091 - Remove this time ponit, it's unnecessary

Notes :

00:29:191 (236) - o
00:31:291 (252,253) - oo
00:33:691 (270,271) - oo
00:36:091 (287,288) - oo
01:39:691 (9) - o
01:47:791 (64) - o
03:19:291 (92) - o
03:37:966 (219) - o
03:48:091 (292) - o
03:57:691 (364) - o
04:21:991 (555) - o
04:24:091 (571,572) - oo
04:28:891 (606,607) - oo
04:33:991 (640) - o
04:38:791 (672) - o
04:43:591 (704) - o
04:48:091 (735,736) - oo

That's all, Nice music!~>wO
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Numbers 596108 wrote:

Mod request by streeteelf

[General]

02:35:941 - Set the preview time
02:36:091 ~ 03:14:491 - I think it is the main kiai time, remove others ://

[TwilightForest's Muzukashii]

fine.

[Oni]

Timing :

00:00:091 - Remove this time ponit, it's unnecessary

Notes :

00:29:191 (236) - o
00:31:291 (252,253) - oo
00:33:691 (270,271) - oo
00:36:091 (287,288) - oo
01:39:691 (9) - o
01:47:791 (64) - o
03:19:291 (92) - o
03:37:966 (219) - o
03:48:091 (292) - o
03:57:691 (364) - o
04:21:991 (555) - o
04:24:091 (571,572) - oo
04:28:891 (606,607) - oo
04:33:991 (640) - o
04:38:791 (672) - o
04:43:591 (704) - o
04:48:091 (735,736) - oo

That's all, Nice music!~>wO
Thanks for mod. :3 All applied. :)
Surono
<(``)

[General]
check AiMod.. different preview timing? xD~

[TwilightForest's Kantan]
00:26:191 (57) - k
hmm many long pattern, must cut example d d d d d -> d d d...d its like futsuu @_@ right? or this is map style?

[Futsuu]
no broplem 5 me

[TwilightForest's Muzukashii]
00:37:741 (184) - k
00:38:191 (187) - k
03:59:191 (146) - d
04:15:166 (14) - k

[Oni]
00:02:341 (15) - k
00:06:991 (45) - k
01:10:891 (177) - k
01:41:191 (19,20,21,22,23) - kkddk
02:50:116 - add d
03:19:066 - add d
03:33:541 (187) - del
04:28:591 (606) - k

yo just it xD hope helpful
rhalp10

cheatreal
W = Whistle | E = Finish R = Clap
[Overall]
Audio preview time conflicts
[Futsuu]
00:09:691 (25) - Add E
[TwilightForest's Muzukashii]
00:02:491 (7) - Add E
00:19:291 (82) - Add E
00:23:791 (109) - Add E
00:48:091 (8) - Add E
01:18:091 (147,152,156) - Add E
01:21:691 (161) - ^^
[Oni]
00:02:491 (17) - Add E
00:23:791 (196) - Add E
00:33:391 (268) - ^^
01:57:691 (134) - ^^
02:07:141 (198) - ^^
02:45:691 (123) - ^^
02:54:091 (176) - ^^
02:07:291 (199) - Remove E
---------------------------------
Hmm... Dont forget FINISH , Finish make your map harder and make your map better..
I Like Your Map Ahahah.. If that map become a mania my hand will thrilling ahha did you hear the tiny sound it make me feel SLS hahha
Topic Starter
streeteelf

rhalp10 wrote:


cheatreal
W = Whistle | E = Finish R = Clap
[Overall]
Audio preview time conflicts
[Futsuu]
00:09:691 (25) - Add E
[TwilightForest's Muzukashii]
00:02:491 (7) - Add E
00:19:291 (82) - Add E
00:23:791 (109) - Add E
00:48:091 (8) - Add E
01:18:091 (147,152,156) - Add E
01:21:691 (161) - ^^
[Oni]
00:02:491 (17) - Add E
00:23:791 (196) - Add E
00:33:391 (268) - ^^
01:57:691 (134) - ^^
02:07:141 (198) - ^^
02:45:691 (123) - ^^
02:54:091 (176) - ^^
02:07:291 (199) - Remove E
---------------------------------
Hmm... Dont forget FINISH , Finish make your map harder and make your map better..
I Like Your Map Ahahah.. If that map become a mania my hand will thrilling ahha did you hear the tiny sound it make me feel SLS hahha
Strange mod, because some finishes can't be there, like in pattern ddddD. :P But some are good placed, so thanks. :D
rhalp10

streeteelf wrote:

rhalp10 wrote:


cheatreal
W = Whistle | E = Finish R = Clap
[Overall]
Audio preview time conflicts
[Futsuu]
00:09:691 (25) - Add E
[TwilightForest's Muzukashii]
00:02:491 (7) - Add E
00:19:291 (82) - Add E
00:23:791 (109) - Add E
00:48:091 (8) - Add E
01:18:091 (147,152,156) - Add E
01:21:691 (161) - ^^
[Oni]
00:02:491 (17) - Add E
00:23:791 (196) - Add E
00:33:391 (268) - ^^
01:57:691 (134) - ^^
02:07:141 (198) - ^^
02:45:691 (123) - ^^
02:54:091 (176) - ^^
02:07:291 (199) - Remove E
---------------------------------
Hmm... Dont forget FINISH , Finish make your map harder and make your map better..
I Like Your Map Ahahah.. If that map become a mania my hand will thrilling ahha did you hear the tiny sound it make me feel SLS hahha
Strange mod, because some finishes can't be there, like in pattern ddddD. :P But some are good placed, so thanks. :D
Ahaha idk , that's my style what's mean of d and k ?
Culedesu
YAY M4M


Oni
00:11:041 - add d
00:11:116 (78) - remove
00:12:691 - add k
00:15:841 - add d
00:17:041 - ^
00:21:241 (171,172) - change d
00:21:391 (173) - change k
00:27:316 (223) - change d
00:27:541 (225) - change k
00:36:241 - add k
00:36:541 - add d
00:36:841 (291) - change k
01:41:191 (19) - ^
02:23:566 (5) - remove
02:23:716 (7) - ^
02:24:166 (10) - ^
02:24:316 (12) - ^
02:35:191 (58) - change k
02:35:491 (59,60) - remove
02:35:716 (61) - ^
02:35:791 (62) - please 1/4 kat stream till 02:36:091 (66) big don
02:36:691 (65,66) - change d
02:41:491 (95,96) - ^
04:19:816 - add k
04:20:041 - ^
04:48:841 - add d
04:48:916 (739) - change k
04:49:066 - add k
04:49:141 (742) - change d

Good mapset! Hope ranked! 8-)
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Culedesu wrote:

YAY M4M


Oni
00:11:041 - add d
00:11:116 (78) - remove
00:12:691 - add k
00:15:841 - add d
00:17:041 - ^
00:21:241 (171,172) - change d
00:21:391 (173) - change k
00:27:316 (223) - change d
00:27:541 (225) - change k
00:36:241 - add k
00:36:541 - add d
00:36:841 (291) - change k
01:41:191 (19) - ^
02:23:566 (5) - remove
02:23:716 (7) - ^
02:24:166 (10) - ^
02:24:316 (12) - ^
02:35:191 (58) - change k
02:35:491 (59,60) - remove
02:35:716 (61) - ^
02:35:791 (62) - please 1/4 kat stream till 02:36:091 (66) big don
02:36:691 (65,66) - change d
02:41:491 (95,96) - ^
04:19:816 - add k
04:20:041 - ^
04:48:841 - add d
04:48:916 (739) - change k
04:49:066 - add k
04:49:141 (742) - change d

Good mapset! Hope ranked! 8-)
Nearly all adding ignored, because I was mapping to intuitive rhythm and IMO it's good, but I applied some color changes, maybe even all, don't really remember which one. Thanks :3
Jerry


  • [General]
    :!: :!: There are no kiai times in TwilightForest's Kantan and Muzukashii difficulties. Please add kiai times into these two diffs so that it'll be the same with the Futsuu and Oni difficulties.


  • [TwilightForest's Kantan]
  1. Nothing really worth pointing out in this diff other than the repetitiveness of the note structure at some parts. But then again this is a Kantan diff, so I guess it should be fine.


  • [Futsuu]
    :!: Too repetitive with the note structures. Especially during the first half of the kiai time - 02:37:891 until 02:53:791 - Too much repetition of 1/1 spaced "ooo" patterns, I would suggest changing up the patterns abit to add a little more variation to the note structure for this part.


    :!: Also, after the kiai time at 03:15:691 all the way until 04:12:091 - is just a huge repeat of the constant d d d k note structure. I recommend adding a few notes on some of the red lines in the middle of those d d d k patterns (not all of them!) so that it won't look so dull.


  • [TwilightForest's Muzukashii]
  1. 02:47:191 (101) - Change this to kat so that you have a consistent kat rhythm with 02:45:991 (96) - ?

  2. 02:48:391 (107) - Same for this, change to kat?

  3. 03:32:416 (90) - Try moving this note over to 03:32:116 -, it flows better with the music imo

  4. 03:55:591 (127) - Change to kat so that the kat rhythm is consistent with 03:54:391 (121) -


  • [Oni]
  1. 00:38:641 (305) - This spinner is not placed in a correct beat of 1/4, which causes this to happen :
    Please change the beat snap divisor to 1/4 and then start the slider at 00:38:641 - and end it at 00:39:541 -



  2. 01:01:591 (113,114) - Swap these two notes to k d, it creates a better flow with the music for this part


  3. 01:34:816 (282) - Delete this note. It causes the slider that comes after it to be way too hard to catch. And it also breaches the guidelines : http://puu.sh/ipRhF/4a6d2fd6f1.jpg


  4. 02:24:466 (14) - This slider does not go along with the music well. Plus, it also breaks the same guideline above ^ I suggest just following what you did for these long vocal notes before this at 02:21:541 - and delete the kkkkd stream at 02:24:091 - and then adding a spinner to replace it, ending it at 02:25:291 -
    It should look something like this :
    Spinner starts at 02:24:091


  5. 03:02:491 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^ Same for this entire thing, remove the kkkkd and replace it with a spinner ending at 03:03:691 -

That's all from me, good luck with the map~
Nyan
[Kantan]
03:25:891 (33) - can be kat

Good kantan.

[Futsuu]
00:11:791 (31) - small kat
00:19:291 (52) - big don
01:42:691 (14,15,16) - this is a suggestion. this will be fit at kick sound.

01:52:291 (46,47,48) - same as above
02:01:891 (76,77,78) - ^
02:11:491 (107,108,109) - ^

02:25:741 (1,2,3) - Futsuu usually not use 1/2 with different colors. make sure all of this patterns to ddd or kkk

02:28:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - we can keep last two notes as k d, removing finish.

02:56:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - same as above
03:04:141 (1,2,3) - ddd
03:06:541 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - same as above

03:37:891 (78,79,80) - d - d d d like 01:42:691 (14,15,16)
03:47:491 (109,110,111) - same as above
03:57:091 (139,140,141) - ^
04:06:691 (170,171,172) - ^

04:13:891 (194,195,196) - kkk
04:16:291 (203,204,205,206) - can be d d d d D or d d d - D
04:18:691 (212,213,214) - kkk
04:19:891 (217,218) - can add a kat between those two notes
04:21:091 (221,222,223) - kkk

04:23:491 (230,231,232) - kkk
04:25:891 (239,240,241) - can be k k k - D or d d d - D
04:28:291 (248,249,250) - kkk
04:28:891 (251,252) - can add a don between those two notes
04:30:691 (257,258,259) - kkk

04:31:291 (260) - big D

04:32:491 (263) - small k
04:33:091 (265,266,267) - kkk
04:35:491 (273,274,275,276) - k k k - K or k - d d D

04:37:291 (279) - small k
04:37:891 (281,282,283) - kkk
04:40:291 (289,290,291,292) - k k k - K or k - d d D

04:42:691 (297,298,299) - kkk
04:45:091 (305,306,307,308) - k k k - K or k - d d D

04:48:691 (318,319,320,321,322,323) -



[Muzukashii]

Muzukashii usually not use 1/4 with different colors. But you want to keep ddk, ignore all mods below.

00:09:691 (30,31,32) - ddd
00:13:291 (55,56,57,58) - ddd k
00:15:691 (69,70,71) - ddd
01:54:391 (92,93,94) - ddd
01:57:391 (108,109,110,111) - kkk k or kkk d, also can be kkkkk
02:00:841 (129,130,131) - ddd
02:05:941 (157,158,159) - ddd
02:10:291 (185,186,187,188) - d ddd or ddd k
02:34:891 (34,35,36,37) - ^
02:58:891 (161,162,163,164) - ^
03:31:891 (86,87,88,89,90,91) - ddd k d k
03:42:091 (45,46,47,48,49,50) - k d k ddd
03:48:991 (86,87,88) - ddd
03:59:191 (146,147,148,149) - k ddd
04:15:091 (13,14,15,16) - ddd k or d d k ddd

[Oni]
seems to be ok.
errors are already modded with Jerry's mod


Godd luck!
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Jerry wrote:



  • [General]
    :!: :!: There are no kiai times in TwilightForest's Kantan and Muzukashii difficulties. Please add kiai times into these two diffs so that it'll be the same with the Futsuu and Oni difficulties.


  • [TwilightForest's Kantan]
  1. Nothing really worth pointing out in this diff other than the repetitiveness of the note structure at some parts. But then again this is a Kantan diff, so I guess it should be fine.


  • [Futsuu]
    :!: Too repetitive with the note structures. Especially during the first half of the kiai time - 02:37:891 until 02:53:791 - Too much repetition of 1/1 spaced "ooo" patterns, I would suggest changing up the patterns abit to add a little more variation to the note structure for this part.


    :!: Also, after the kiai time at 03:15:691 all the way until 04:12:091 - is just a huge repeat of the constant d d d k note structure. I recommend adding a few notes on some of the red lines in the middle of those d d d k patterns (not all of them!) so that it won't look so dull.


  • [TwilightForest's Muzukashii]
  1. 02:47:191 (101) - Change this to kat so that you have a consistent kat rhythm with 02:45:991 (96) - ?

  2. 02:48:391 (107) - Same for this, change to kat?

  3. 03:32:416 (90) - Try moving this note over to 03:32:116 -, it flows better with the music imo

  4. 03:55:591 (127) - Change to kat so that the kat rhythm is consistent with 03:54:391 (121) -


  • [Oni]
  1. 00:38:641 (305) - This spinner is not placed in a correct beat of 1/4, which causes this to happen :
    Please change the beat snap divisor to 1/4 and then start the slider at 00:38:641 - and end it at 00:39:541 -



  2. 01:01:591 (113,114) - Swap these two notes to k d, it creates a better flow with the music for this part


  3. 01:34:816 (282) - Delete this note. It causes the slider that comes after it to be way too hard to catch. And it also breaches the guidelines : http://puu.sh/ipRhF/4a6d2fd6f1.jpg


  4. 02:24:466 (14) - This slider does not go along with the music well. Plus, it also breaks the same guideline above ^ I suggest just following what you did for these long vocal notes before this at 02:21:541 - and delete the kkkkd stream at 02:24:091 - and then adding a spinner to replace it, ending it at 02:25:291 -
    It should look something like this :
    Spinner starts at 02:24:091


  5. 03:02:491 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^ Same for this entire thing, remove the kkkkd and replace it with a spinner ending at 03:03:691 -

That's all from me, good luck with the map~
Most of them are done, thanks. :3

Nyan wrote:

[Kantan]
03:25:891 (33) - can be kat

Good kantan.

[Futsuu]
00:11:791 (31) - small kat
00:19:291 (52) - big don
01:42:691 (14,15,16) - this is a suggestion. this will be fit at kick sound.

01:52:291 (46,47,48) - same as above
02:01:891 (76,77,78) - ^
02:11:491 (107,108,109) - ^

02:25:741 (1,2,3) - Futsuu usually not use 1/2 with different colors. make sure all of this patterns to ddd or kkk

02:28:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - we can keep last two notes as k d, removing finish.

02:56:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - same as above
03:04:141 (1,2,3) - ddd
03:06:541 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - same as above

03:37:891 (78,79,80) - d - d d d like 01:42:691 (14,15,16)
03:47:491 (109,110,111) - same as above
03:57:091 (139,140,141) - ^
04:06:691 (170,171,172) - ^

04:13:891 (194,195,196) - kkk
04:16:291 (203,204,205,206) - can be d d d d D or d d d - D
04:18:691 (212,213,214) - kkk
04:19:891 (217,218) - can add a kat between those two notes
04:21:091 (221,222,223) - kkk

04:23:491 (230,231,232) - kkk
04:25:891 (239,240,241) - can be k k k - D or d d d - D
04:28:291 (248,249,250) - kkk
04:28:891 (251,252) - can add a don between those two notes
04:30:691 (257,258,259) - kkk

04:31:291 (260) - big D

04:32:491 (263) - small k
04:33:091 (265,266,267) - kkk
04:35:491 (273,274,275,276) - k k k - K or k - d d D

04:37:291 (279) - small k
04:37:891 (281,282,283) - kkk
04:40:291 (289,290,291,292) - k k k - K or k - d d D

04:42:691 (297,298,299) - kkk
04:45:091 (305,306,307,308) - k k k - K or k - d d D

04:48:691 (318,319,320,321,322,323) -



[Muzukashii]

Muzukashii usually not use 1/4 with different colors. But you want to keep ddk, ignore all mods below.

00:09:691 (30,31,32) - ddd
00:13:291 (55,56,57,58) - ddd k
00:15:691 (69,70,71) - ddd
01:54:391 (92,93,94) - ddd
01:57:391 (108,109,110,111) - kkk k or kkk d, also can be kkkkk
02:00:841 (129,130,131) - ddd
02:05:941 (157,158,159) - ddd
02:10:291 (185,186,187,188) - d ddd or ddd k
02:34:891 (34,35,36,37) - ^
02:58:891 (161,162,163,164) - ^
03:31:891 (86,87,88,89,90,91) - ddd k d k
03:42:091 (45,46,47,48,49,50) - k d k ddd
03:48:991 (86,87,88) - ddd
03:59:191 (146,147,148,149) - k ddd
04:15:091 (13,14,15,16) - ddd k or d d k ddd

[Oni]
seems to be ok.
errors are already modded with Jerry's mod


Godd luck!
And again, most of them are done. :P And thanks to you too. :3
Mafumafu
[TwilightForest's Kantan]
00:18:991 - Add k for the "howl" vocal?
00:50:191 (4) - 00:52:591 (9) - 00:54:991 (14) - 00:56:791 (19,21) - k? For building up another pattern.
01:21:391 (78) - Since here's a drum, which is different from other parts, then maybe add a k? 01:25:591 - Same
01:42:991 (11,12) - Swap?
03:07:291 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Seems too hard for Kantan
03:28:591 - Add d?
03:57:091 (101,102,103,104) - four ds, would be too hard?
04:04:891 (120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128) - Still worrying about if it is too hard

[Futsuu]
00:17:191 Maybe add d here? For the drum here.
00:45:691 (1,2,3) - Maybe try dkd? 00:48:091 (7,8,9) - Same. Also same for latter patterns.
01:42:691 (14) - k?
01:47:191 (29) - remove? Keep consistent with your former sections.
Ayyri
hi

[General]
  1. Add to tags: tpz, CHS, C.H.S, TANO*C
    - tpz -> Abbreviation or other name t+pazolite uses.
    - CHS -> Circle label that t+pazolite owns.
    - C.H.S -> Same thing as the above, just a slightly different way of writing the name.
    - TANO*C -> HARDCORE TANO*C is the group that t+pazolite is a member of, as well as a label that Answer from X Girlz was released under. (Hardcore was already in the tags, that's why I didn't mention it again.)
[TwilightForest's Kantan]
  1. 00:01:291 - to 00:02:491 - k k k feels like it really misses the beats that are occurring with the 1/2 rhythm going on here. But you simplified it so it stuck to 1/1. imo, I think just doing this might work out a bit better for you, in terms of simplifying the rhythm here, rather than forcing it to 1/1.
  2. 00:03:691 - and 00:06:091 - Same thing as the above, if you agree.
  3. 00:08:791 - Could be removed to emphasize the change in rhythm that's being followed at 00:09:091 - .
  4. 00:09:691 - Intentionally skipping this finish? Personally speaking, I would make it a K.
  5. 00:10:291 - and 00:10:891 - CTRL+G. The rhythm repeats at 00:10:891 - , rather than at 00:10:291 - . And the beginning of the repeated rhythm sounds a lot stronger than what is going on at 00:10:291 -.
  6. 00:11:491 - Following the above, would suggest k d k.
  7. 00:12:691 - and 00:13:291 - Same as 00:10:291 -.
  8. 00:15:991 - Remove. Sounds weird to have a denser pattern right before the build up at 00:16:891 - , rather than during it.
  9. 00:16:291 - Same as 00:11:491 - .
  10. 00:17:491 - k k d. A bit denser rhythm would be better for the build up that's going on here.
  11. 00:18:691 - If you're going to have a volume change at 00:18:091 - , you might want to have one here too, as an in between of 00:18:091 - and 00:19:291 - , so the change doesn't sound so out of place.
  12. 00:22:891 - This slider seems a bit weird, since all it seems to be following is the vocal. (?) From 00:22:891 - to 00:24:091 - try something more like this to match the vocals a bit better.
  13. 00:25:291 - Try d k k d k for better variation with the vocals.
  14. 00:28:891 - Intentionally ignoring this finish?
  15. 00:33:091 - Seems a bit out of place, like the last slider. It's in the middle of a 1/1 rhythm, which might feel a bit awkward for newer players. Try having some hitcircles instead.
  16. 00:38:491 - This is a veryyyyy long spinner for a new player. As well as the fact that there is only a 1/1 break between it and the note at 00:48:391 - , I don't really think most beginners would finish this spinner. I would honestly just suggest having a finisher at 00:38:491 - and start mapping again at 00:48:091 - , since there isn't really all that much to map to here. You probably disagree, but I think the spinner is really weird at this difficulty level. >w<
  17. 00:48:391 - to 01:01:291 - The simplified rhythm that you used in this part sounds really off. Are you trying to follow the higher pitched sound in the background, and ignoring the melody? Kind of curious about this. Also ignored a finish here. ;w;
I'm going to stop here for now, I want to hear the GDer's opinion on these things before I continue modding this difficulty.
Topic Starter
streeteelf

Ayyri wrote:

hi

[General]
  1. Add to tags: tpz, CHS, C.H.S, TANO*C
    - tpz -> Abbreviation or other name t+pazolite uses.
    - CHS -> Circle label that t+pazolite owns.
    - C.H.S -> Same thing as the above, just a slightly different way of writing the name.
    - TANO*C -> HARDCORE TANO*C is the group that t+pazolite is a member of, as well as a label that Answer from X Girlz was released under. (Hardcore was already in the tags, that's why I didn't mention it again.)
[TwilightForest's Kantan]
  1. 00:01:291 - to 00:02:491 - k k k feels like it really misses the beats that are occurring with the 1/2 rhythm going on here. But you simplified it so it stuck to 1/1. imo, I think just doing this might work out a bit better for you, in terms of simplifying the rhythm here, rather than forcing it to 1/1.
  2. 00:03:691 - and 00:06:091 - Same thing as the above, if you agree.
  3. 00:08:791 - Could be removed to emphasize the change in rhythm that's being followed at 00:09:091 - .
  4. 00:09:691 - Intentionally skipping this finish? Personally speaking, I would make it a K.
  5. 00:10:291 - and 00:10:891 - CTRL+G. The rhythm repeats at 00:10:891 - , rather than at 00:10:291 - . And the beginning of the repeated rhythm sounds a lot stronger than what is going on at 00:10:291 -.
  6. 00:11:491 - Following the above, would suggest k d k.
  7. 00:12:691 - and 00:13:291 - Same as 00:10:291 -.
  8. 00:15:991 - Remove. Sounds weird to have a denser pattern right before the build up at 00:16:891 - , rather than during it.
  9. 00:16:291 - Same as 00:11:491 - .
  10. 00:17:491 - k k d. A bit denser rhythm would be better for the build up that's going on here.
  11. 00:18:691 - If you're going to have a volume change at 00:18:091 - , you might want to have one here too, as an in between of 00:18:091 - and 00:19:291 - , so the change doesn't sound so out of place.
  12. 00:22:891 - This slider seems a bit weird, since all it seems to be following is the vocal. (?) From 00:22:891 - to 00:24:091 - try something more like this to match the vocals a bit better.
  13. 00:25:291 - Try d k k d k for better variation with the vocals.
  14. 00:28:891 - Intentionally ignoring this finish?
  15. 00:33:091 - Seems a bit out of place, like the last slider. It's in the middle of a 1/1 rhythm, which might feel a bit awkward for newer players. Try having some hitcircles instead.
  16. 00:38:491 - This is a veryyyyy long spinner for a new player. As well as the fact that there is only a 1/1 break between it and the note at 00:48:391 - , I don't really think most beginners would finish this spinner. I would honestly just suggest having a finisher at 00:38:491 - and start mapping again at 00:48:091 - , since there isn't really all that much to map to here. You probably disagree, but I think the spinner is really weird at this difficulty level. >w<
  17. 00:48:391 - to 01:01:291 - The simplified rhythm that you used in this part sounds really off. Are you trying to follow the higher pitched sound in the background, and ignoring the melody? Kind of curious about this. Also ignored a finish here. ;w;
I'm going to stop here for now, I want to hear the GDer's opinion on these things before I continue modding this difficulty.
As I got permission from GDer I changed everything you mentioned (I meant I applied all) and removed spinner with adding some circles to not have a break and follow rhythm as it should be (I think).
OG_Dwarf
very cool, keep going and get this ranked !
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