+1, i didnt consider myself able to stream 200 until i was getting 98% on od9cheaptricks wrote:
Practice slower streams. 73% is not being able to stream that BPM. You may be having trouble because the streams are too fast and you end up mashing. So practice slower streams to develop proper finger control.
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spagetti is shitwinber1 wrote:
eat more spaghetti
fusilli is better
i mean who the fuck bothers making spagetti when you have to chop it into fucking TINY FUC KING PIECES befcore you can fucking eat it like a fucking retard
when i make food ii dont want to sit there fucking chopping it up when i could be putting it into my mouth yess delicious carbs yes so good yummmmmmmmmmm makes my tummy ache
x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
i dont want to sit there fucking
whoa, slow down there partnerx_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
i could be putting it into my mouth
Recent Infringementswinber1 wrote:
x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
i dont want to sit there fuckingwhoa, slow down there partnerx_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
i could be putting it into my mouth
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If your ability to stream 16-32 notes in an actual map (not a shitty stream practice map) is not impaired then there is nothing to worry about. Stream practice maps are great for training stream stamina and finger motion but are actually really shitty for training things like stream accuracy and aim if you ask me. Also, as Riince has pointed out, if you can't stream with high accuracy (96%+ perhaps? This is where the biggest pp gains are at least) at high od (10 might not be necessary but I won't comment on a more appropriate number) then you aren't able to really stream that bpm.
If you have the finger motion down and want to practice accuracy you should definitely be looking for maps that have lot's of streams as opposed to actual stream practice maps.
If you have the finger motion down and want to practice accuracy you should definitely be looking for maps that have lot's of streams as opposed to actual stream practice maps.
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Oshet. I haven't eaten spaghetti in 3 months too.winber1 wrote:
eat more spaghetti
What if I told you I had somewhat of the accuracy but not the finger motion? I started training accuracy when I knew I was just mashing (although the video proves somewhat otherwise) and I managed to do 130-140 almost perfectly (92-95%) before I started losing the "stamina/coordination". I can still do fine with accuracy now before one of my fingers wouldn't just move. It's all down to something mental, like I'd attempt a 150 BPM beatmap with streams randomly and I'll pass it with good score and accuracy, and then I'll fail the next dozen tries mainly on those streams.chainpullz wrote:
If your ability to stream 16-32 notes in an actual map (not a shitty stream practice map) is not impaired then there is nothing to worry about. Stream practice maps are great for training stream stamina and finger motion but are actually really shitty for training things like stream accuracy and aim if you ask me. Also, as Riince has pointed out, if you can't stream with high accuracy (96%+ perhaps? This is where the biggest pp gains are at least) at high od (10 might not be necessary but I won't comment on a more appropriate number) then you aren't able to really stream that bpm.
If you have the finger motion down and want to practice accuracy you should definitely be looking for maps that have lot's of streams as opposed to actual stream practice maps.
So it's just something in my brain that's just telling me not to mash and hence why my finger's not just moving at all? The entire problem started when I started training accuracy anyways (see above quote reply).cheaptricks wrote:
Practice slower streams. 73% is not being able to stream that BPM. You may be having trouble because the streams are too fast and you end up mashing. So practice slower streams to develop proper finger control.
You don't train accuracy on stream practice maps. Your ability to mindlessly alternate on two buttons is a terrible measure of accuracy.
Just throwing this in there: 92-95% is horrible, not "almost perfect".
Streaming comes with experience. There are no tricks to it. I had this kind of mental block too, where I would just freeze up but it's pretty natural and goes away at some point.
You should never have stamina problems when playing slow streams, you're most likely pressing the buttons too hard which, again, you get better at by just playing more and getting accustomed to your keyboard.
Streaming comes with experience. There are no tricks to it. I had this kind of mental block too, where I would just freeze up but it's pretty natural and goes away at some point.
You should never have stamina problems when playing slow streams, you're most likely pressing the buttons too hard which, again, you get better at by just playing more and getting accustomed to your keyboard.
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I've had this laptop for a long time. And the Z and X keys have been much gone squishy from all the tapping.Saphirshroom wrote:
Just throwing this in there: 92-95% is horrible, not "almost perfect".
Streaming comes with experience. There are no tricks to it. I had this kind of mental block too, where I would just freeze up but it's pretty natural and goes away at some point.
You should never have stamina problems when playing slow streams, you're most likely pressing the buttons too hard which, again, you get better at by just playing more and getting accustomed to your keyboard.
I'm also trying not to tap too hard but it gets to that point anyways whenever I start streaming, which would leads to my mashing again. I didn't use the Long Stream Practice Maps when I started accuracy training. I know that they're good for stamina but there wasn't a bit of accuracy in there, so I went back to short streams/long stream beatmaps that had complicated patterns.chainpullz wrote:
You don't train accuracy on stream practice maps. Your ability to mindlessly alternate on two buttons is a terrible measure of accuracy.
You're currently not as good as whatever point you're comparing yourself to. It happens all the time. You'll never always play at (or near) your best. And the worse you are, the less consistent you'll be.
It could be any number of factors that we wouldn't know about.
Maybe you were really warmed up before.
Maybe your muscles were more relaxed for whatever reason, mental or physical.
Maybe you're tilting because you care too much about this inconsequential issue.
Maybe it's something else.
Who cares?
Stop analyzing yourself and worrying that you may not be as good as you thought you were. Look at how much thought you're putting into this. No wonder you aren't having any fun.
You know what the solution is?
Play More™
If you reply, do know that my reply to your potential future reply has been bolded for you.
It could be any number of factors that we wouldn't know about.
Maybe you were really warmed up before.
Maybe your muscles were more relaxed for whatever reason, mental or physical.
Maybe you're tilting because you care too much about this inconsequential issue.
Maybe it's something else.
Who cares?
Stop analyzing yourself and worrying that you may not be as good as you thought you were. Look at how much thought you're putting into this. No wonder you aren't having any fun.
You know what the solution is?
Play More™
If you reply, do know that my reply to your potential future reply has been bolded for you.
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Well it makes sense. There are gaps where you'll drop down while you're trying to improve. I am playing more than usual now, that's for sure, and I'm still a bit worried about my streaming thing even though it's not much of a big deal now. Thanks; everyone else too.Ethelon wrote:
You're currently not as good as whatever point you're comparing yourself to. It happens all the time. You'll never always play at (or near) your best. And the worse you are, the less consistent you'll be.
It could be any number of factors that we wouldn't know about.
Maybe you were really warmed up before.
Maybe your muscles were more relaxed for whatever reason, mental or physical.
Maybe you're tilting because you care too much about this inconsequential issue.
Maybe it's something else.
Who cares?
Stop analyzing yourself and worrying that you may not be as good as you thought you were. Look at how much thought you're putting into this. No wonder you aren't having any fun.
You know what the solution is?
Play More™
If you reply, do know that my reply to your potential future reply has been bolded for you.
I want to raise a question though, if someone can still answer. Streaming with your fingers requires your forearm muscles correct? How do you "stream with your forearm", because whenever I stream I don't really feel my forearm doing any work while the fingers do all the lifting and they tense/freeze up every now and then because of that, even on 130 BPM streams and triples (I'm not saying I can't stream/triple at that BPM, it just happens sometimes). My tapping habits could be part of it because it's difficult not to press the keys down hard while you're streaming, which end up "sticking" to my fingers (benefits of a laptop keyboard, hoorah!). My forearm just remains relaxed (at least I feel like it). Is there a position/technique to do so, assuming it's not just Play More™?
The fingers have no muscles, your fingers are all skin, bone, ligaments and tendons, all the muscles that move your fingers are at the base of your forearm attached near the elbow. this is part of why fingers are relavitely easy to get re-attached if they get cut off, it's really just a system of levers and hinges that get acted on by muscles farther away.
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if it's not a muscle endurance issue, then it's a mental issue. i can't even ATTEMPT long streams of 150+ BPM because I stop moving my fingers long before feeling any burn in my forearm. i've never been able to get to muscle failure, because i am unable to attempt the BPMs that require such effort despite being able to stream up to 260bpm semi-reliably for short periods of time by employing cheat techniques such as rotating my wrist around and flexing my forearm.
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look at that smug motherfucker, cookiezi is entirely in control of this encounter, casually rolling away without a care.ZenithPhantasm wrote:
^How to instantly gain the powers of Cookiezi.
For low bpm streams you have to relax your fingers, you shouldn't feel any burn whatsoever. Slow stream is all about being relaxed and having a good sense of rhythm - being able to keep that metronome going in your head. Since most streams are 1/4 beat, every fourth note in the stream should land on that metronome and you should have no excuse not to hit a 300 on that fourth note.
If you're having problem not being able to keep your fingers relaxed, try basing your wrist a little further away from keyboard (but not too far away or it will hurt). This will ensure that fingers have to be a little more extended to hit the keys and you will have better control of them. I recommend doing this as a warm-up till you get into the rhythm and can go back to normal position as it is not a very stamina efficient technique but it does the trick.
If you're having problem not being able to keep your fingers relaxed, try basing your wrist a little further away from keyboard (but not too far away or it will hurt). This will ensure that fingers have to be a little more extended to hit the keys and you will have better control of them. I recommend doing this as a warm-up till you get into the rhythm and can go back to normal position as it is not a very stamina efficient technique but it does the trick.
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How do I shove a metronome in my head?KukiMonster wrote:
For low bpm streams you have to relax your fingers, you shouldn't feel any burn whatsoever. Slow stream is all about being relaxed and having a good sense of rhythm - being able to keep that metronome going in your head. Since most streams are 1/4 beat, every fourth note in the stream should land on that metronome and you should have no excuse not to hit a 300 on that fourth note.
If you're having problem not being able to keep your fingers relaxed, try basing your wrist a little further away from keyboard (but not too far away or it will hurt). This will ensure that fingers have to be a little more extended to hit the keys and you will have better control of them. I recommend doing this as a warm-up till you get into the rhythm and can go back to normal position as it is not a very stamina efficient technique but it does the trick.
having a metronome option would be nice for shitty maps with random breaks that cause you to lose the offset in your head, as well as maps that arent generic electro with 24/7 1/1 thump in the background
Topic Starter
|KukiMonster wrote:
For low bpm streams you have to relax your fingers, you shouldn't feel any burn whatsoever. Slow stream is all about being relaxed and having a good sense of rhythm - being able to keep that metronome going in your head. Since most streams are 1/4 beat, every fourth note in the stream should land on that metronome and you should have no excuse not to hit a 300 on that fourth note.
If you're having problem not being able to keep your fingers relaxed, try basing your wrist a little further away from keyboard (but not too far away or it will hurt). This will ensure that fingers have to be a little more extended to hit the keys and you will have better control of them. I recommend doing this as a warm-up till you get into the rhythm and can go back to normal position as it is not a very stamina efficient technique but it does the trick.
That I can do but it's more towards a mental issue I have to eventually get over with like what Momiji said. My fingers even start freezing at the end of triples (1 stack) and the start of sliders on a simple 135 BPM beatmap, which I've never encountered before until now. Like I said in my original post, they don't tense, they just randomly "freeze" (no tension, just stops moving), much like a delayed reaction.
lol what OP said is actually the same problem of mine. I used to have high stamina, could do https://osu.ppy.sh/b/171943 except the FD part without any problem. But now my fingers are suck, cant even do 180 bpm long stream. What OP desbribed is exactly what I had experienced. May be we dont have talent to play this game, just play for fun or quit it.