Last Note. feat.Hatsune Miku - The Last Effect · forum

Kuki

722 posts

Joined October 2013

Kuki 2015-03-30T09:27:43+00:00

From ✞Kuki and Moph's Modding Q✞

Ichi's Hard

00:08:322 (4) - Remove this to emphasise triple.
00:49:059 (2,3) - These could be misread, consider changing.
02:42:901 (5) - Turn this into a triple/two singles to have a stronger finish.

Insane

00:58:532 (5,6) - Spread these notes out perhaps.
01:22:217 (1,2) - ^

Millhofo's Extra

00:33:822 (4) - I think you may be able to map the vocal here, consider a long slider or something.
02:14:480 - Put a triple here.

Ichigaki

1,767 posts

Joined February 2013

Ichigaki 2015-03-30T11:11:53+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Helloooo from my queue~
Some small sugestion from me,

[Hard]
00:02:006 (3) - Kayanya bisa dibuat bentuk segitiga deh kak, bisa dirotate 35 drajat terus ditempatin x:212 y:232 http://puu.sh/gESl7/2477915bae.jpg
00:02:322 (4,1,2,3,4) - Kalo ngikutin yang di atas, berarti ini bisa dipindah ke x:208 y:316, terus yang ini 00:03:427 (3,4) - beloknya terlalu tajem engga sih kak? mungkin bisa diatur ulang kaya bgmn gituuuu http://puu.sh/gESye/e28437b9e8.jpg
00:07:532 (1,2,3) - Biar lebih readable kak, menurut aku segala anti-jump mungkin harus pake nc, salah satunya yang itu terus ini juga 00:12:585 (1,2,3) - mungkin ada lagi di belakang yang mirip kaya gitu, soalnya secara visualisasi player mungkin bisa salah klik kak
00:12:111 (2) - Engga diflip aja kak? mungkin kaya gini http://puu.sh/gESX3/dc0f8e1759.jpg Kayanya flownya lebih enak gitu
00:19:690 (2,3,4) - Entah kak kayanya kurang bagus gimana gitu penempatan notesnya, belum punya saran bagus haha XD, tapi mungkin ini deh bisa dicoba http://puu.sh/gET5Q/67519eb759.jpg
00:33:585 (4,5,6,7) - Kaya kurang nyaman gitu kak streamnya kaya terburu-buru jadinya, mungkin dijadiin kaya gini http://puu.sh/gETLh/f98e706ffc.jpg Jadi ada waktu persiapan streamnya gitu
01:03:901 (1,2,3,4) - Hampir sama kaya di atas, jadi kalo pake 1/2 slider buat jadi stream tuh kesannya jadi buru-buru terus susah lagi haha XD, padahal beberapa 1/2 slidernya bisa ditambah reverse kaya gini http://puu.sh/gEU6n/c8a52ea883.jpg
01:13:532 (6,1) - Kalo (1) distack bareng (6) bgmn kak? kayanya kalo (1) dipasang anti-jump dengan jarak 1/2 seharusnya jadi flownya agak patah gimana gitu
01:54:427 (1,2,3,4) - Sama kaya 00:33:585 (4,5,6,7) -
02:25:375 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Astaga itu apa juga haha XD, kayanya terlalu mendadak buat ganti ritme yang terlalu kontras apalagi setelah spinner. Walaupun cocok sama melodi gitarnya kayanya terlalu susah deh hahaha XD, jadi mungkin beberapa kaya ini 02:25:375 (1,2,1,2) - Dibuat 3/4 slider aja atau gimana gitu
02:27:269 (5,6,7,8) - Sama kaya 00:33:585 (4,5,6,7) -
02:42:901 (5) - Kok ada whistle di slider bodynya?
Semua di apply (Eh nggak tau juga sih, pas itu lupa bales, yang jelas banyak yang di apply kok)

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Tbh I don't like the song, anyway goodluck

-Tochi wrote:
From my modding queue

General
Disable "Widescreen Support" since there's no SB.

Ichi's Hard
Make a spinner from 00:34:296 - to 00:36:743 - Nope
00:49:059 (2,3) - I'm not sure about this. Maybe they'll get confused because they think it's a stream.
00:58:375 - Add a note.
01:17:953 (2) - Stack on 01:18:269 (3) 's head instead?
Move the break to 01:34:848 - so it starts when the music starts. Nope

Rest is accepted

Kuki wrote:
From ✞Kuki and Moph's Modding Q✞

Ichi's Hard
00:08:322 (4) - Remove this to emphasise triple.
00:49:059 (2,3) - These could be misread, consider changing.
02:42:901 (5) - Turn this into a triple/two singles to have a stronger finish.
All accepted

Thank you guys

Update

Code

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 74638
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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GridSize: 4
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Title:Last Effect
TitleUnicode:ラストエフェクト
Artist:Last Note.
ArtistUnicode:Last Note.
Creator:DavidEd
Version:Ichi's Hard
Source:
Tags:Vocaloid Vocaloid2 Hatsune Miku 初音ミク Ichigaki Milhofo
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300,160,160532,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,156,160690,2,0,B|392:196|364:224|364:224|392:244|400:280,1,140
344,344,161164,2,0,P|308:332|268:340,1,70
200,300,161480,6,0,P|128:268|124:264,2,70,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,228,161953,2,0,P|212:188|216:152,1,70,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,116,162269,2,0,P|264:82|238:59,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,68,162585,2,0,P|116:100|80:96,1,70,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,180,162901,2,0,P|108:220|104:256,1,70
256,192,163138,12,0,164638,0:0:0:0:

Dilectus

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Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-03-30T15:44:14+00:00

Kuki wrote:
From ✞Kuki and Moph's Modding Q✞
Insane
00:58:532 (5,6) - Spread these notes out perhaps.
01:22:217 (1,2) - ^

I remapped the chours and fixed both of these issues.
And applied Ichi's update

Thanks for the mod!

DreaM117er

1,594 posts

Joined September 2012

DreaM117er 2015-04-03T13:57:41+00:00

I'm late...Form my Queue~

Sorry I can't mod over 5.5 star

[General]

Insane diff: remove this: http://puu.sh/h00oE/5334150a57.png

[Insane]

00:03:901 - finish
00:16:532 - ^
00:22:138 - miss drum, do you make it??
00:31:532 (12,1) - Blanket better
00:43:059 - breaktime start here, same as Hard diff
00:46:848 - finish
00:54:427 (1) - DS 1.0x
01:03:269 (1) - stack better
01:07:059 - 01:09:585 - 01:14:638 - finish
01:13:375 (5) - 01:14:006 (7) - NC
01:19:690 - 01:24:743 - finish
01:34:848 - breaktime start here
01:39:901 (5) - NC is fine
01:42:427 - 01:44:953 - 01:47:480 - finish
01:49:217 - clap??
01:52:532 - 01:57:585 - 02:00:111 - finish
02:03:902 (5) - NC
02:09:585 (4) - stack better or you mean??
02:10:217 - 02:15:269 - 02:27:901 - finish
02:29:164 (8) - NC
02:32:322 (4) - ^
02:32:953 - 02:35:480 - finish

Wow, seems like smallboat's diff...

[Hard]

00:08:953 - 00:21:585 - finish
00:24:743 (2) - How about this bending?? http://puu.sh/h01el/edbd3241e0.jpg
00:26:638 - finish
00:27:111 (2) - Ctrl+J, don't touch 00:27:427 (3) -
00:34:217 (3) - finish
00:44:953 (2,4) - blanket better
00:48:901 - miss clap
01:09:585 - finish
01:07:690 (1,3) - 01:09:269 (1,2) - swap NC
01:12:111 - finish
01:14:322 (1) - remove NC
01:24:743 - finish
01:34:848 - breaktime start here
01:39:427 (1) - you miss add clap
01:48:111 - miss finish
01:49:217 - add clap??
01:52:532 - finish
02:02:006 (1) - stack better (206|293)
02:02:638 - finish
02:08:480 (8) - NC
02:27:901 - finish
02:30:269 (1) - remove NC
02:31:532 (9) - NC
02:43:059 - finish

[Normal]

00:09:585 (3,5) - stack better
01:34:848 - breaktime...You know
01:55:375 (1) - DS

Everything fine, Good job

I tell you a bad news, I think you should make Easy diff.
I think your Normal is too hard, so go to ask BN to check this issue

Good luck

Dilectus

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Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-04-03T16:55:22+00:00

m1223961117 wrote:
[General]
Insane diff: remove this: http://puu.sh/h00oE/5334150a57.png
how did i not see that? xD

[Insane]

Went through the entire diff again and fixed some combos and hitsounds you suggested.
Wow, seems like smallboat's diff... huh

[Normal]

00:09:585 (3,5) - stack better fix
01:34:848 - breaktime...You know
01:55:375 (1) - DS fixx

I tell you a bad news, I think you should make Easy diff.
I think your Normal is too hard, so go to ask BN to check this issue Was planning on mapping an easy actually

Thanks for the mod ;3

streeteelf

439 posts

Joined May 2013

streeteelf 2015-04-06T13:23:25+00:00

M4M ingame request

[General]

You could remove bookmarks from diffs. Just saying. :3
Make all your diffs the same in eg. break times

[Easy]

00:06:427 (3) - Correct blanket a little
00:29:164 (1,2,3,1) - Try to move them to make a triangle - IMO not hard, because after that section there are slider and circle that you can move as you can
01:30:427 (1,2,3) - Maybe move 3 to make the same DS 3->1 like 1->2 to make a equilateral triangle?
02:19:690 (3,1) - Correct blanket

[Normal]

00:03:901 (4,1) - Correct blanket
00:07:848 (4) - Try to convert it to 2 circles, IMO easier to read than slider
00:11:480 (1,2,3) - Slider with reverse better
01:06:743 (6,1) - Correct blanket
01:09:269 (5,1) - ^
01:32:006 (5,6,7) - Slider with reverse?
02:42:743 (5,6,7) - ^

[Ichi's Hard]

01:03:901 (1,2,3) - Not too hard?
01:07:532 (4) - Change into circles
01:20:164 (2) - ^
01:21:427 (2) - ^
01:42:269 (7) - ^

Not bad map, but a little too hard diffs to that "words" that describes them. Good luck~ :3

Dilectus

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Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-04-06T14:28:19+00:00

streeteelf wrote:
M4M ingame request

[General]

You could remove bookmarks from diffs. Just saying. :3 ;-;
Make all your diffs the same in eg. break times
[Easy]

00:06:427 (3) - Correct blanket a little fix
00:29:164 (1,2,3,1) - Try to move them to make a triangle - IMO not hard, because after that section there are slider and circle that you can move as you can
01:30:427 (1,2,3) - Maybe move 3 to make the same DS 3->1 like 1->2 to make a equilateral triangle?
02:19:690 (3,1) - Correct blanket fix
[Normal]

00:03:901 (4,1) - Correct blanket fix
00:07:848 (4) - Try to convert it to 2 circles, IMO easier to read than slider indeed was
00:11:480 (1,2,3) - Slider with reverse better
01:06:743 (6,1) - Correct blanket fix
01:09:269 (5,1) - ^ fix
01:32:006 (5,6,7) - Slider with reverse? fix
02:42:743 (5,6,7) - ^ fix

Not bad map, but a little too hard diffs to that "words" that describes them. Good luck~ :3

Thanks for the m4m ;3

Starfall9908

663 posts

Joined November 2013

Starfall9908 2015-04-08T07:18:14+00:00

M4M från din modding queue

[General]

Stäng av Widescreen supposrt. Du använder inte storyboard.

[Easy]

00:14:638 (1,1) - stack
00:44:953 (2,1) - ^
02:19:690 (3,1) - blanket

[Normal]

00:20:006 (3,4) - blanket
01:23:638 (1) - det känns inte som att en spinner borde vara här. Ta bort den och mappa den som vanligt.
01:55:690 (2,3) - blanket

[Ici's hard]

00:02:006 (3,4) - blanket
00:18:111 (5,6) - ^
00:28:690 (1,1,1,1) - Why so many NC's ?
01:50:638 (3) - curve this a bit

Det här var allt jag hittade. Lycka till med mappen :3

Dilectus

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Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-04-08T13:12:41+00:00

nadapan wrote:
M4M från din modding queue

[notice][General]
Stäng av Widescreen supposrt. Du använder inte storyboard. Hade tydligen glömt att stänga av det helt enkelt xD
[Easy]
00:14:638 (1,1) - stack fix
00:44:953 (2,1) - ^ fix
02:19:690 (3,1) - blanket
[Normal]
00:20:006 (3,4) - blanket
01:23:638 (1) - det känns inte som att en spinner borde vara här. Ta bort den och mappa den som vanligt. Helt rätt.
01:55:690 (2,3) - blanket
Det här var allt jag hittade. Lycka till med mappen :3

Tackar för din mod :0)

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2015-04-10T17:27:20+00:00

So here's my side of the m4m - apologies it's so late, real life stuff has been getting in the way >.<

General Comments:

Last Note. <3
Personal preference, but you could drag your breaks to start at the white (or sometimes red since the bpm is quite high) tick. I feel this makes the fade in/out of the break flow better during gameplay, but it's up to you.
02:43:375 (1) - The last spinner ends before the music really starts to fade out which seems a bit weird, so I would either increase the length of the spinner by a measure or two, or make the mp3 fade out a bit more quickly.

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Easy

00:06:427 (3,1) - The 3/2 gap here confused me at first, but it's a slider, it's a NC, and it fits the song better than the alternatives, so I'm fine with it

00:10:217 (3,4) - Re-arrange the positioning a little here to make a diamond. (3) should go to [x-136,y-116] and (4) to [x-220,y-192]

00:21:585 (1,2) - Ctrl+H these and move back into the same position (i.e. make the flow clockwise) so that it's a smooth curved movement to 00:24:111 (1)

00:25:375 (3) - Move to [x-176,y-170] so it's directly above 00:24:111 (1) - this also makes 00:24:111 (1,2,3,1) a neater diamond pattern as before

00:29:796 (2,3) - Move (2) to [x-60,y-124] and (3) to [x-60,y-236] to create a neat triangle with equal sides
00:50:006 (2,3) - Move these both up one grid space (Tiny, so y-4) for the same reasons as above

00:51:901 (1,2) - Same as 00:21:585 (1,2) - I feel the flow is kinda awkward in these patterns even though there's a 2/1 gap

00:55:690 (3,1) - Move each of these by x-4 to make a neater diamond

01:00:111 (2,3) - Same as 00:29:796 (2,3) - you can just copy/paste that here and Ctrl+H

01:17:638 (2) - Probably overkill, but you could NC this because if the 3/2 space
01:27:743 (2) - ^

01:45:585 (2,3) - These need to come down a little to make the equal sided triangle (y+4)

01:47:480 (1,2) - 00:21:585 (1,2) again

01:51:269 (3,1) - As 00:55:690 (3,1), move by x-4

02:08:164 (2) - Same as 01:17:638 (2)
02:13:217 (3) - ^

02:22:217 (3,1) - Move by x+4,y+4 for the neater diamond

02:26:638 (3) - x-4

02:29:638 (3) - Same as 01:17:638 (2)

Normal

HP 3 maybe? HP 2 doesn't seem all that challenging for a Normal

I know you don't want to hear this, but I find it really odd that the DS is exactly the same for Easy as it is for Normal (both 0.7x). It really disrupts the flow for me, since the AR and SV are noticeably higher, but the notes aren't any further apart, so there's this weird "stop-start" kind of feeling for me. Whether you decide to change this or not is up to you, but I'd usually set DS to about at least 1.0x for a Normal diff with high BPM as you have here

Guess I'll just look at timing and general note/flow patterns for now, in case you do decide to change the DS

00:12:427 (5) - This could be made into a 1/2 slider for the longer guitar sound

00:16:532 (1) - Clap on the reverse sounds strange here - if you're following the vocals, this note isn't particularly emphasised relative to the surrounding ones, so I would just remove it

00:20:322 (4,5) - The strong beats are on the slider ends, which is confusing, since usually the stronger beats should be clickable. I would move these two notes back 1 beat, and then put 00:20:006 (3) where the tail of (5) currently is to map this section better (don't forget to move the claps to the slider heads) - I notice you've done this a lot throughout, so I guess it's up to you whether you want to change them all or not.

00:31:690 (1) - Move slightly to the left and rotate clockwise a little so (5) is angled directly at the head of (1) - this will improve the flow here

00:33:585 (2,3,4) - This linear flow is a little plain - try moving (3) down a bit to create a curve

01:09:585 (1,2) - I can see you're trying to make a cool blanket here, but currently it looks a bit odd - maybe because the kink of (2) is in the way? I think this would look better if (2) was moved up and rotated clockwise a bit, like this:

01:58:217 (3) - I think this sounds and flows better if extended to the white tick at 01:58:848 - the 3/2 slider just doesn't make sense to me (unless it's for the guitar and not the vocals, maybe?)
02:01:217 (2) - Looking at this slider, I'm pretty sure this is mapped to the guitar, so maybe ignore what I said above lol

02:35:480 (1) - Whilst I think they're okay when used sparingly (and obviously) like this, most people don't seem to like multiple repeat sliders in Easy/Normal diffs. You could just split this into two 1/2 sliders if this is a problem for you

Ichi's Hard

00:02:322 (4) - The last note on this slider is stronger than the rest, so maybe remove the last repeat and place a circle here (clickable)?

00:03:111 (2) - Both notes on this slider are strong, but 00:03:427 (3) is weaker, so reverse the order of these (circle, then 1/2 slider)

00:05:796 (4) - I feel there should be a repeat or an additional circle here somewhere, since 00:05:953 is quite a strong guitar note

00:58:375 - The 3/2 gap here feels odd to me, so I'd map one of these two 1/2 ticks. Either extend 00:58:217 into a 1/2 slider for the vocals, or alternatively, add a circle at 00:58:532 for the snare drum

01:04:217 (2,3) - I like how these 1/4 kick sliders map the decrease in pitch of the drum pattern, but I think it's a little difficult for Hard. Might just be best to make these into another twice-repeating 1/4 slider like 01:03:901 (1) - , like you do later on at 01:54:427 (3,4) - but it's your call

01:42:427 (1,3) - Just my personal opinion, but these *slightly* curved sliders don't look all that good to me - I feel they should either be completely straight, or, (in this case) more curved (something like 01:45:585 (3) looks much better to me) - but there's nothing really wrong with them, so it's up to you again

01:47:953 (2,3) - Might look a little neater if these were moved slightly up and to the right to form an equal-sided triangle like this:

01:50:638 (3) - Same as 01:42:427 (1,3) - but this time it feels even more weird to me since this is an angled slider, when all the other sliders around it are curved, and there's not really a sharp change in the music to justify this

02:05:164 (1,3,4) - (1) is kinda borderline, but (3,4) could do with more of a curve imo

02:38:006 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I love how these sliders map the wobble of the violin (Y)

Insane

00:18:269 (5,6,7,8) - This stack of 1/1 followed by a 1/4 triplet is kinda confusing to play. I think it would be better to move (5) up and leave the triplet stack on its own

00:34:217 (9) - Maybe make this last note NC to emphasise the finish?

00:57:427 - Add a note (or even two 1/4 notes) here for the drums, it currently feels a bit empty
01:47:953 - ^

01:49:217 (5) - This could be made into a 1/2 slider for the held vocal note

01:59:796 (6,7,8,9,1) - This linear stream is a bit plain compared to your others - try giving it more of a right-handed curve (i.e. bring the first few notes down and to the left)

02:32:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - This combo is a little long, so maybe add a NC at 02:34:217 (7) to break it up a bit

I went through Milhofo's Extra a couple of times, but I don't really have the kind of experience in playing or modding maps of this difficulty to make a meaningful contribution here. Sorry! For what my opinion is worth though, it looks really fun, and I definitely play it if I wasn't such a scrub

Hopefully this helped, but if there's anything I didn't explain very well or you'd like to talk to me some more about any of my suggestions, feel free to shoot me a PM or forum message and I'll do what I can to help.

Best of luck! (:

EDIT: Fixed a missing image link in Ichi's Hard

Last edited by JBHyperion 2015-04-10T18:40:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Ichigaki

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Joined February 2013

Ichigaki 2015-04-10T18:12:28+00:00

m1223961117 wrote:
I'm late...Form my Queue~

Sorry I can't mod over 5.5 star

[Insane]

00:03:901 - finish
00:16:532 - ^
00:22:138 - miss drum, do you make it??
00:31:532 (12,1) - Blanket better
00:43:059 - breaktime start here, same as Hard diff
00:46:848 - finish
00:54:427 (1) - DS 1.0x
01:03:269 (1) - stack better
01:07:059 - 01:09:585 - 01:14:638 - finish
01:13:375 (5) - 01:14:006 (7) - NC
01:19:690 - 01:24:743 - finish
01:34:848 - breaktime start here
01:39:901 (5) - NC is fine
01:42:427 - 01:44:953 - 01:47:480 - finish
01:49:217 - clap??
01:52:532 - 01:57:585 - 02:00:111 - finish
02:03:902 (5) - NC
02:09:585 (4) - stack better or you mean??
02:10:217 - 02:15:269 - 02:27:901 - finish
02:29:164 (8) - NC
02:32:322 (4) - ^
02:32:953 - 02:35:480 - finish
Wow, seems like smallboat's diff...

[Hard]

00:08:953 - 00:21:585 - finish
00:24:743 (2) - How about this bending?? http://puu.sh/h01el/edbd3241e0.jpg
00:26:638 - finish
00:27:111 (2) - Ctrl+J, don't touch 00:27:427 (3) -
00:34:217 (3) - finish
00:44:953 (2,4) - blanket better
00:48:901 - miss clap Nope, it missed on 00:48:427 (2) -
01:09:585 - finish
01:07:690 (1,3) - 01:09:269 (1,2) - swap NC
01:12:111 - finish
01:14:322 (1) - remove NC
01:24:743 - finish
01:34:848 - breaktime start here
01:39:427 (1) - you miss add clap
01:48:111 - miss finish
01:49:217 - add clap??
01:52:532 - finish
02:02:006 (1) - stack better (206|293)
02:02:638 - finish
02:08:480 (8) - NC
02:27:901 - finish
02:30:269 (1) - remove NC
02:31:532 (9) - NC
02:43:059 - finish

Good luck

All applied except the red noted

streeteelf wrote:
M4M ingame request

[Ichi's Hard]

01:03:901 (1,2,3) - Not too hard? I think nope, but considered
01:07:532 (4) - Change into circles
01:20:164 (2) - ^
01:21:427 (2) - ^
01:42:269 (7) - ^
Not bad map, but a little too hard diffs to that "words" that describes them. Good luck~ :3

All applied except the red noted

nadapan wrote:
M4M från din modding queue

[General]
Stäng av Widescreen supposrt. Du använder inte storyboard.
[Ici's hard]
00:02:006 (3,4) - blanket
00:18:111 (5,6) - ^
00:28:690 (1,1,1,1) - Why so many NC's ?
01:50:638 (3) - curve this a bit

Det här var allt jag hittade. Lycka till med mappen :3

All fixed

JBHyperion wrote:
So here's my side of the m4m - apologies it's so late, real life stuff has been getting in the way >.<

General Comments:
Last Note. <3
Personal preference, but you could drag your breaks to start at the white (or sometimes red since the bpm is quite high) tick. I feel this makes the fade in/out of the break flow better during gameplay, but it's up to you.
02:43:375 (1) - The last spinner ends before the music really starts to fade out which seems a bit weird, so I would either increase the length of the spinner by a measure or two, or make the mp3 fade out a bit more quickly.
Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Ichi's Hard
00:02:322 (4) - The last note on this slider is stronger than the rest, so maybe remove the last repeat and place a circle here (clickable)? Better to not do it, confusing for me.

00:03:111 (2) - Both notes on this slider are strong, but 00:03:427 (3) is weaker, so reverse the order of these (circle, then 1/2 slider)

00:05:796 (4) - I feel there should be a repeat or an additional circle here somewhere, since 00:05:953 is quite a strong guitar note

00:58:375 - The 3/2 gap here feels odd to me, so I'd map one of these two 1/2 ticks. Either extend 00:58:217 into a 1/2 slider for the vocals, or alternatively, add a circle at 00:58:532 for the snare drum

01:04:217 (2,3) - I like how these 1/4 kick sliders map the decrease in pitch of the drum pattern, but I think it's a little difficult for Hard. Might just be best to make these into another twice-repeating 1/4 slider like 01:03:901 (1) - , like you do later on at 01:54:427 (3,4) - but it's your call

01:42:427 (1,3) - Just my personal opinion, but these *slightly* curved sliders don't look all that good to me - I feel they should either be completely straight, or, (in this case) more curved (something like 01:45:585 (3) looks much better to me) - but there's nothing really wrong with them, so it's up to you again

01:47:953 (2,3) - Might look a little neater if these were moved slightly up and to the right to form an equal-sided triangle like this:

01:50:638 (3) - Same as 01:42:427 (1,3) - but this time it feels even more weird to me since this is an angled slider, when all the other sliders around it are curved, and there's not really a sharp change in the music to justify this

02:05:164 (1,3,4) - (1) is kinda borderline, but (3,4) could do with more of a curve imo

02:38:006 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I love how these sliders map the wobble of the violin (Y)

Hopefully this helped, but if there's anything I didn't explain very well or you'd like to talk to me some more about any of my suggestions, feel free to shoot me a PM or forum message and I'll do what I can to help.

Best of luck! (:

Mostly applied

Thank you everyone

http://puu.sh/h8ODC/373e39f33e.rar

Dilectus

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Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-04-10T19:13:14+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
So here's my side of the m4m - apologies it's so late, real life stuff has been getting in the way >.<

General Comments:
Last Note. <3
Personal preference, but you could drag your breaks to start at the white (or sometimes red since the bpm is quite high) tick. I feel this makes the fade in/out of the break flow better during gameplay, but it's up to you. Died when you told me about how to do it xD
02:43:375 (1) - The last spinner ends before the music really starts to fade out which seems a bit weird, so I would either increase the length of the spinner by a measure or two, or make the mp3 fade out a bit more quickly.
Easy
00:06:427 (3,1) - The 3/2 gap here confused me at first, but it's a slider, it's a NC, and it fits the song better than the alternatives, so I'm fine with it

00:10:217 (3,4) - Re-arrange the positioning a little here to make a diamond. (3) should go to [x-136,y-116] and (4) to [x-220,y-192] fix

00:21:585 (1,2) - Ctrl+H these and move back into the same position (i.e. make the flow clockwise) so that it's a smooth curved movement to 00:24:111 (1)

00:25:375 (3) - Move to [x-176,y-170] so it's directly above 00:24:111 (1) - this also makes 00:24:111 (1,2,3,1) a neater diamond pattern as before fix

00:29:796 (2,3) - Move (2) to [x-60,y-124] and (3) to [x-60,y-236] to create a neat triangle with equal sides fix
00:50:006 (2,3) - Move these both up one grid space (Tiny, so y-4) for the same reasons as above

00:51:901 (1,2) - Same as 00:21:585 (1,2) - I feel the flow is kinda awkward in these patterns even though there's a 2/1 gap

00:55:690 (3,1) - Move each of these by x-4 to make a neater diamond fix

01:00:111 (2,3) - Same as 00:29:796 (2,3) - you can just copy/paste that here and Ctrl+H

01:17:638 (2) - Probably overkill, but you could NC this because if the 3/2 space I mean, I did do that on 00:07:532 so why not
01:27:743 (2) - ^ fix

01:45:585 (2,3) - These need to come down a little to make the equal sided triangle (y+4) fix

01:47:480 (1,2) - 00:21:585 (1,2) again

01:51:269 (3,1) - As 00:55:690 (3,1), move by x-4 fix

02:08:164 (2) - Same as 01:17:638 (2)
02:13:217 (3) - ^

02:22:217 (3,1) - Move by x+4,y+4 for the neater diamond fix

02:26:638 (3) - x-4

02:29:638 (3) - Same as 01:17:638 (2) fix

Normal
HP 3 maybe? HP 2 doesn't seem all that challenging for a Normal Didnt notice til now.

I know you don't want to hear this, but I find it really odd that the DS is exactly the same for Easy as it is for Normal (both 0.7x). It really disrupts the flow for me, since the AR and SV are noticeably higher, but the notes aren't any further apart, so there's this weird "stop-start" kind of feeling for me. Whether you decide to change this or not is up to you, but I'd usually set DS to about at least 1.0x for a Normal diff with high BPM as you have here Thats because at first I didnt have an easy difficulty so thats why the ds is low. [/color]

Guess I'll just look at timing and general note/flow patterns for now, in case you do decide to change the DS

00:12:427 (5) - This could be made into a 1/2 slider for the longer guitar sound fix

00:16:532 (1) - Clap on the reverse sounds strange here - if you're following the vocals, this note isn't particularly emphasised relative to the surrounding ones, so I would just remove it removed

00:20:322 (4,5) - The strong beats are on the slider ends, which is confusing, since usually the stronger beats should be clickable. I would move these two notes back 1 beat, and then put 00:20:006 (3) where the tail of (5) currently is to map this section better (don't forget to move the claps to the slider heads) - I notice you've done this a lot throughout, so I guess it's up to you whether you want to change them all or not.

00:31:690 (1) - Move slightly to the left and rotate clockwise a little so (5) is angled directly at the head of (1) - this will improve the flow here fix

00:33:585 (2,3,4) - This linear flow is a little plain - try moving (3) down a bit to create a curve fix

01:09:585 (1,2) - I can see you're trying to make a cool blanket here, but currently it looks a bit odd - maybe because the kink of (2) is in the way? I think this would look better if (2) was moved up and rotated clockwise a bit, like this: fix

01:58:217 (3) - I think this sounds and flows better if extended to the white tick at 01:58:848 - the 3/2 slider just doesn't make sense to me (unless it's for the guitar and not the vocals, maybe?)
02:01:217 (2) - Looking at this slider, I'm pretty sure this is mapped to the guitar, so maybe ignore what I said above lol

02:35:480 (1) - Whilst I think they're okay when used sparingly (and obviously) like this, most people don't seem to like multiple repeat sliders in Easy/Normal diffs. You could just split this into two 1/2 sliders if this is a problem for you

Insane
00:18:269 (5,6,7,8) - This stack of 1/1 followed by a 1/4 triplet is kinda confusing to play. I think it would be better to move (5) up and leave the triplet stack on its own

00:34:217 (9) - Maybe make this last note NC to emphasise the finish? Must be a ghost in my map or something because I knew there was a new combo there.

00:57:427 - Add a note (or even two 1/4 notes) here for the drums, it currently feels a bit empty fix
01:47:953 - ^ fix

01:49:217 (5) - This could be made into a 1/2 slider for the held vocal note

01:59:796 (6,7,8,9,1) - This linear stream is a bit plain compared to your others - try giving it more of a right-handed curve (i.e. bring the first few notes down and to the left)

02:32:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - This combo is a little long, so maybe add a NC at 02:34:217 (7) to break it up a bit fixed

Thanks for the mod man!

-Hanashi-

216 posts

Joined May 2014

-Hanashi- 2015-04-11T01:09:39+00:00

Hey! Normal mod from my mod queue~~ (Late cuz I'm a lazy butt)
Nice song btw ^w^

[General]

I modded the normal before the others so it might be different. >.<

[Easy]

00:08:322 (2,1) - Doesn't really look nice for an easy diff. Remove (1), make (2) a reverse slider, and add a finish at the end of that.
00:26:638 (1,2) - Your curves aren't as good as mine. Here's how I suggest you place the points.
suggestion
00:56:953 (1,2) - ^
01:12:115 (1) - ^
01:19:059 (1) - ^
01:52:532 (1,2) - ^
02:02:638 (1) - ^
02:09:585 (1) - ^
02:11:480 (1) - ^
02:27:901 (1) - You could curve this better.
01:22:217 (2,1) - Doesn't look very nice for an easy. You could just change this all to one big gimmicky slider. (Like a curved slider)
01:27:269 (1,1) - ^
02:07:690 (1,1) - ^
02:12:743 (2,1) - ^
02:17:796 (1,1) - ^

[Normal]

01:04:532 (1,2,3) - Doesn't look very nice and normal diffs should have a consistent distance between notes. I suggest a stack and spacing like below.
suggestion
01:08:953 (4,5,1) - Stack like above.
01:15:901 (2) - Seems a bit sudden and hard to read. I suggest extending this by a 1/2 note.
01:26:007 (2) - ^
02:06:427 (2) - ^
01:23:480 (1) - Move spinner a half note before and extend a half note.
02:12:743 (1) - Add finish.
02:12:901 (2) - Delete.

[Ichi's Hard]

00:07:532 (1,1,1) - Why NC on all of these? I believe you could make a whole combo just by making this just one combo and still be consistent. >.<
00:12:585 (1,1,1) - ^
00:28:848 (2) - Would feel better with a little break. Delete this note plz.
01:49:690 (2) - Remove slider, replace with a circle on 01:49:848
01:29:164 (3) - Put end of slider here.
01:29:480 (4) - If you followed the above suggestion, delete the reverse-reverse slider and add a circle at 01:29:480

Good luck on getting this ranked!
Last Note. is a nice vocaloid producer! ^-^

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-04-11T02:26:41+00:00

-Hanashi- wrote:
Hey! Normal mod from my mod queue~~ (Late cuz I'm a lazy butt) np man xD

[Easy]
00:08:322 (2,1) - Doesn't really look nice for an easy diff. Remove (1), make (2) a reverse slider, and add a finish at the end of that.
00:26:638 (1,2) - Your curves aren't as good as mine. Here's how I suggest you place the points.
suggestion
00:56:953 (1,2) - ^
01:12:115 (1) - ^
01:19:059 (1) - ^
01:52:532 (1,2) - ^
02:02:638 (1) - ^
02:09:585 (1) - ^
02:11:480 (1) - ^
02:27:901 (1) - You could curve this better.
01:22:217 (2,1) - Doesn't look very nice for an easy. You could just change this all to one big gimmicky slider. (Like a curved slider)
01:27:269 (1,1) - ^
02:07:690 (1,1) - ^
02:12:743 (2,1) - ^
02:17:796 (1,1) - ^
Fixed all of these except for the 5 last suggestions, but they will be taken into concideration

[Normal]
01:04:532 (1,2,3) - Doesn't look very nice and normal diffs should have a consistent distance between notes. I suggest a stack and spacing like below. fix
suggestion
01:08:953 (4,5,1) - Stack like above.
01:15:901 (2) - Seems a bit sudden and hard to read. I suggest extending this by a 1/2 note. fix
01:26:007 (2) - ^
02:06:427 (2) - ^
01:23:480 (1) - Move spinner a half note before and extend a half note.
02:12:743 (1) - Add finish.
02:12:901 (2) - Delete.

Thank you for the mod!

Leorda

4,416 posts

Joined June 2009

Leorda 2015-04-23T05:39:24+00:00

Hi there

[Easy]
01:02:006 (1) - Spacing error. Please snap it with 00:59:480 (1) to fix this
01:13:375 (1) - Remove new combo, it's pretty useless btw
01:17:638 (1) - Remove new combo. It doesn't make sense having a single combo in single note for previous one...
01:27:743 (1) - ^
02:08:164 (1) - ^
02:18:269 (1) - ^

[Normal]
* AR +1? your current seems bit slow to me

01:15:901 (2) - Add clap at tail slider. You probably forgot it
01:23:796 (4) - Add clap at head and tail slider instead of repeating slider
01:44:638 (4) - Add clap
02:06:427 (2) - Add clap at tail slider. You probably forgot it

[Ichi's Hard]
00:15:111 (3) - Remove clap, maybe you had mistake this?
00:29:006 (1,2) - Swap new combo for pattern changed
01:17:953 (1,1) - Not stack correctly... Restack or unstack to fix this problem

[Insane]
01:04:532 (1) - Use 0.7x distance spacing to make consistent through this stream
00:56:637 (7) - Unsnapped tail slider

[Milhofo's Extra]
00:19:848 (6) - The sliderbody would overlapped by hitjudgements because the stacks blocks this path. Consider to rearrange it

Good job~ Call me when you're done

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-04-23T12:00:53+00:00

Leorda wrote:
Hi there

[Easy]
01:02:006 (1) - Spacing error. Please snap it with 00:59:480 (1) to fix this fix
01:13:375 (1) - Remove new combo, it's pretty useless btw fix
01:17:638 (1) - Remove new combo. It doesn't make sense having a single combo in single note for previous one... fix
01:27:743 (1) - ^ fix
02:08:164 (1) - ^ fix
02:18:269 (1) - ^ fix

[Normal]
* AR +1? your current seems bit slow to me changed it to 4.5

01:15:901 (2) - Add clap at tail slider. You probably forgot it how did i not see that? xD
01:23:796 (4) - Add clap at head and tail slider instead of repeating slider fix
01:44:638 (4) - Add clap fix
02:06:427 (2) - Add clap at tail slider. You probably forgot it fix

[Insane]
01:04:532 (1) - Use 0.7x distance spacing to make consistent through this stream fix
00:56:637 (7) - Unsnapped tail slider it was glitched somehow. but fixed by making new slider

Good job~ Call me when you're done

Useful mod! Thanks!

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

- Milhofo - 2015-04-23T20:50:31+00:00

Leorda wrote:
Hi there

[Milhofo's Extra]
00:19:848 (6) - The sliderbody would overlapped by hitjudgements because the stacks blocks this path. Consider to rearrange it

Good job~ Call me when you're done

Thanks for the notice ^^ sad I can't change stacking rules.. but I've changed the slider's direction, should be fixed. > UPDATE <

Ichigaki

1,767 posts

Joined February 2013

Ichigaki 2015-04-27T04:39:46+00:00

-Hanashi- wrote:
Hey! Normal mod from my mod queue~~ (Late cuz I'm a lazy butt)
Nice song btw ^w^

[Ichi's Hard]
00:07:532 (1,1,1) - Why NC on all of these? I believe you could make a whole combo just by making this just one combo and still be consistent. >.< I'm sorry, but nope
00:12:585 (1,1,1) - ^ ^
00:28:848 (2) - Would feel better with a little break. Delete this note plz. Not bad, removed
01:49:690 (2) - Remove slider, replace with a circle on 01:49:848 Not bad
01:29:164 (3) - Put end of slider here. ?
01:29:480 (4) - If you followed the above suggestion, delete the reverse-reverse slider and add a circle at 01:29:480 ?
Good luck on getting this ranked!
Last Note. is a nice vocaloid producer! ^-^

Leorda wrote:
Hi there

[Ichi's Hard]
00:15:111 (3) - Remove clap, maybe you had mistake this?
00:29:006 (1,2) - Swap new combo for pattern changed
01:17:953 (1,1) - Not stack correctly... Restack or unstack to fix this problem

All fixed

Good job~ Call me when you're done

Thank you everyone~

Update

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252,76,135822,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,76,135901,2,0,P|288:68|396:72,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,144,136375,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,220,136532,6,0,P|372:228|264:224,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,248,137006,2,0,L|140:264,1,35
116,272,137164,2,0,P|60:216|56:144,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,88,137638,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,52,137796,6,0,P|184:116|260:172,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,156,138269,2,0,P|324:104|376:28,2,140,4|4|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,296,139217,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,296,139375,2,0,P|332:308|256:296,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,260,139848,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,316,140006,2,8,L|112:364,3,35
116,304,140322,6,0,B|88:264|67:248|67:248|76:208|67:173,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,100,140796,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,60,140953,2,0,P|216:96|316:112,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,92,141427,2,0,B|376:140|356:164|356:164|352:212|372:252,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,304,141901,6,0,P|276:312|244:328,1,70
216,248,142217,2,0,P|264:240|296:224,1,70
276,148,142532,2,0,L|276:96,3,35,8|8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142848,12,0,145375,0:0:0:0:
212,248,146322,6,0,P|226:301|217:378,2,105
296,152,147032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,256,147269,2,8,L|368:291,3,35
408,280,147585,2,8,L|408:315,3,35
444,336,147901,5,4,0:0:0:0:
492,268,148059,1,0,0:0:0:0:
468,188,148217,2,0,L|452:144,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,172,148532,2,0,L|392:132,3,35
360,160,148848,2,0,L|332:120,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,100,149164,6,0,P|200:106|161:140,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,184,149638,2,0,P|124:260|140:344,1,140
220,324,150111,1,8,0:0:0:0:
304,316,150269,2,0,B|336:320|364:300|364:300|388:324|440:340,1,140
430,336,150664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
430,336,150743,6,0,P|454:292|474:260,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,196,151059,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,120,151217,2,0,P|432:76|424:44,1,70,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,56,151532,6,0,P|336:128|296:208,2,140,4|4|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,48,152480,2,0,P|136:64|92:100,2,70,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,60,152953,6,0,P|256:93|236:148,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,200,153269,2,0,P|188:236|180:280,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,324,153585,2,0,P|284:324|328:332,1,70
392,348,153901,1,8,0:0:0:0:
464,304,154059,6,0,P|424:216|464:104,1,210,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,88,154690,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,88,154769,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,88,154848,2,0,P|316:160|240:156,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,168,155322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,155480,12,0,157690,0:0:0:0:
200,132,158006,6,0,B|228:124|248:108|248:108|280:108|324:96,1,105
340,108,158322,2,0,B|348:136|364:156|364:156|364:188|376:232,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,248,158638,2,0,B|361:253|329:253|329:253|309:269|281:277,1,105,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,272,158953,2,0,B|232:244|216:224|216:224|216:192|204:148,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,132,159269,2,0,B|172:140|152:156|152:156|120:156|76:168,1,105,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,176,159585,2,0,B|54:157|54:125|54:125|38:105|30:77,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,52,159901,6,0,P|120:24|156:16,1,70
204,56,160217,2,0,P|220:112|236:132,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,160,160532,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,156,160690,2,0,B|392:196|364:224|364:224|392:244|400:280,1,140
344,344,161164,2,0,P|308:332|268:340,1,70
200,300,161480,6,0,P|128:268|124:264,2,70,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,228,161953,2,0,P|212:188|216:152,1,70,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,116,162269,2,0,P|264:82|238:59,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,68,162585,2,0,P|116:100|80:96,1,70,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,180,162901,2,0,P|108:220|104:256,1,70
256,192,163138,12,4,164638,0:0:0:0:

Don't forget to check the an error on Milhofo's diff. I'm not really sure about the gap from my diff to Insane :<

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2015-05-01T18:53:42+00:00

Hi from your M4M queue

[Easy]
01:38:638 (1) - This slider seems irrelevant to me

[Normal]
00:28:217 - Add a note here?
00:48:427 - ^

[Hard]
00:05:480 (1) - Wouldnt this be a better representation of the rhythm..?

Timeline

00:07:848 (2,3) - Delet these 2 NC's? To symbolize all 3 notes are part of the anti jumps
00:12:901 (1,1) - ^
00:28:848 (2) - Maybe delete this note for emphasis?
01:49:532 (1) - Stack or move further down a tiny bit

[Insane]
00:10:217 (5) - NC
The combos in the first verse are very inconsistent and dont seem to be located to follow particular rhythms. At least from my perspective. Maybe make them all one measure long?

Extra is too difficult for me

Sorry thats all I could find. I hope this mod was helpful. GL

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-05-01T20:36:34+00:00

Hi Im Nathan wrote:
Hi from your M4M queue

[Easy]
01:38:638 (1) - This slider seems irrelevant to me fix

[Normal]
00:28:217 - Add a note here? fix
00:48:427 - ^ since i added note in the last part i might aswell add one here aswell

[Insane]
00:10:217 (5) - NC was quite a long combo, ty
The combos in the first verse are very inconsistent and dont seem to be located to follow particular rhythms. At least from my perspective. Maybe make them all one measure long?

Sorry thats all I could find. I hope this mod was helpful. GL

Ty for mod

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-05-03T07:48:54+00:00

Hi~ modding from your M4M queue~

Easy

00:09:585 (3) or 00:10:217 (4) - Toggle New combo
00:27:901 (5) - Flip vertically (ctrl + J) then move it back to the original position. Looks better that way.
00:58:217 (2) - Do the same ^^
01:09:585 (1,2) - These 2 are arranged awkwardly, makes it awkward to play too. Move (1) bit to the right to match the flow.
01:20:953 (1) - Ctrl + J then move it back to the original position. Same case like above.
01:53:796 (5) - Do the same ^^
02:03:901 (1) - Remove New combo.
02:11:480 (1) - Ctrl + J then move back to the original position. Once again same case.
02:13:217 (1) - Remove New combo.

Normal

00:03:901 (4) - Toggle New combo, 00:04:532 (1) - Then remove new combo.
00:12:427 (5) - Remove the finish hitsound and maybe add the clap hitsound instead?

Ichi's Hard

02:20:006 (6,1) - Make the space between these 2 bigger, approach circle is almost unreadable.
02:43:138 (1) - I think there should be 1/4 more space for this spinner to start.

Insane

00:12:506 (1) - Just my opinion, there should be 1/4 more space for this spinner to start even though this is Insane.
01:48:111 (3,4,5) - Make these 3 spacing equal.

Extra looks good!

Couldn't find much in harder difficulties, sorry

I hope this mod helped you

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-05-03T12:02:35+00:00

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
Hi~ modding from your M4M queue~

Easy
00:09:585 (3) or 00:10:217 (4) - Toggle New combo fix
00:27:901 (5) - Flip vertically (ctrl + J) then move it back to the original position. Looks better that way. fix
00:58:217 (2) - Do the same ^^ fix
01:09:585 (1,2) - These 2 are arranged awkwardly, makes it awkward to play too. Move (1) bit to the right to match the flow.
01:20:953 (1) - Ctrl + J then move it back to the original position. Same case like above.
01:53:796 (5) - Do the same ^^
02:03:901 (1) - Remove New combo.
02:11:480 (1) - Ctrl + J then move back to the original position. Once again same case.
02:13:217 (1) - Remove New combo. fix

Normal
00:03:901 (4) - Toggle New combo, 00:04:532 (1) - Then remove new combo. fix
00:12:427 (5) - Remove the finish hitsound and maybe add the clap hitsound instead? changed to whistle

Insane
00:12:506 (1) - Just my opinion, there should be 1/4 more space for this spinner to start even though this is Insane. fix
01:48:111 (3,4,5) - Make these 3 spacing equal. noticed some blanket errors while fixing, thanks

Couldn't find much in harder difficulties, sorry I hope this mod helped you all mods are helpful

Thanks for the mod man

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2015-05-03T13:03:19+00:00

From above queue~

General:

Firstly, I just want to place your attention on the fact that the Insane and Extra has the exact same slider velocity, which causes the SV spread to be a bit unbalanced: E…N…H…..IE. I suggest the following: Insane – maybe 1.60 and Extra – keep it 1.80 then. Not such a big issue I guess, but I still wanted to mention this though.
Just double-check the metadata with an expert please (cuz I’m not one) but I did find this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcQOagEOnkc
So maybe the metadata has to be: Last Note. – The Last Effect (feat. Hatsune Miku)
Just check that please.
There’s a very big gap between the Hard and Insane. When I compare the two, there’s a big difficulty difference between them. The Hard is not that hard at all. The only thing that makes the diff difficult is the triples. But in the Insane there’s a lot of streams, jumps, etc. My advice would be that you have to add a diff between the Hard and Insane and maybe call it “Light Insane”. You can also try making the Insane easier or the Hard harder but that may just cause new problems, like then the gap between Insane and Extra is too big or the gap between Hard and Normal is too big. Your best bet: New diff between Hard and Insane.
To be safe, change audio lead-in to 2000ms.
The following hitsound is unused:
1. soft-hitfinish2.wav
I found that hitsound that’s unused. It will be best to remove it.
The Insane has a different video offset than the other diffs. Just make sure all the diffs have the same video offset. The right offset is 1014. Your Insane’s offset is 1076.
In the Insane, AiBat found there’s two duplicate green lines on that one tick: 00:14:006 so just make sure there’s only one green line there.

Easy:

00:12:743 (1,1) –Wow, the reaction time between the spinner and the next note is really short. I’m not sure this will be acceptable since it’s fairly difficult and uncomfortable for beginners. My advice would be to remove the spinner and just map that area out. It’s always better to play it safe than cross your fingers and hope it will be ignored.
01:02:006 (1,2) –This looks a bit weird. Rather try this:
Picture
01:12:111 (1,2) –Not really the best flow and flow is very important in an Easy diff. Imo, this flow is better:
Picture
Hm, your comboing in the first kiai time doesn’t really make any sense. You placed a new combo here: 01:22:690 (1) – but not here: 01:17:638 (2) – and here: 01:27:743 (2) - for the same beat. Rather remove new combo here: 01:22:690 (1) -
01:40:532 (2,1) –Hm, this looks ugly. It’s possible to stack them nicely, so please do.
01:40:532 (2,1) –Another inconsistency in comboing. You placed a new combo here: 02:03:901 (1) – but not here: 01:13:375 (2) – and it’s the exact same beat. My suggestion would be to remove the new combo here: 02:03:901 (1)
02:13:217 (1) –For consistency, remove the new combo here: 02:13:217 (1) –
02:43:375 (1) –Uhh, this spinner doesn’t really fit imo and it’s very short. Too short for an Easy imo. Just remove the spinner. I think it will be better if you just end the diff here: 02:43:059 (3) –

I don’t really like this kind of mapping style; old mapping style but this is obviously just my own opinion. I modded this diff before you updated, so sorry if I repeat something that was already mentioned.

Normal:

Change the approach rate to 6 to support the fast SV. You’ll also realize that the diff will play a bit better since the notes appear a bit later.
00:48:427 (2,3) –Check this spacing again please. (3) is a bit too far away from (2). Remember, spacing must be consistent throughout the entire diff.
00:12:269 –This is quite an important beat imo that has to be mapped. Change (4) into a short slider. Like this:
Picture
00:12:743 (1) –I don’t really like this spinner here. It seems so out of place . . . I would remove the spinner and map the area out instead.
01:06:111 (4,2) –Eh, I don’t really like overlaps like this. They just look really ugly. If I were you, I would try to place the slider somewhere where it doesn’t overlap anything.
01:15:269 (1) –To be safe, I would suggest placing the head of the slider in the middle of the spinner for better reaction time.
01:22:217 (1,4) –Uh, overlapping . . .
Picture
02:23:480 (2,3) –Just doublecheck this spacing again please.
02:43:217 (1) –Unnecessary spinner, like in Easy. Just end the diff here: 02:42:743 (5) – This counts for all diffs where you added this spinner.

I think this diff could use some polishing; look a bit more tidy. Try to avoid unnecessary overlaps especially. They just look unpleasant.

Ichi’s Hard:

00:28:690 (1,2,1) –I can understand why you anti-jumped these notes: 00:12:585 (1,1,1) – cuz they’re clearly beats on their own and there are no vocals, but I think it would be better if you spaced these notes: 00:28:690 (1,2,1) – out normally. Also rather, remove new combo here: 00:29:006 (1) – and add new combo here: 00:29:164 (2) –
01:14:006 (1,2) –Space these notes out a bit more to emphasize the pause a bit better and avoid confusion. They are currently a bit too close to 01:13:532 (2) –
01:28:375 (3) –Hm, you missed a lot of important beats here. Why not try a rhythm like this instead:
Picture
01:40:848 (4) –Weird flow. Rather Ctrl+J then Ctrl+H and then Ctrl+G.
02:19:217 (3,4) –Stack perfectly?
02:43:138 (1) –Eh, unnecessary spinner. I would just end the diff here: 02:42:901 (5) –

Insane:

I’m not really someone that can help you with difficult diffs like this. My biggest concern is still the gap between this diff and the Hard. This diff is sooo difficult with jumps and crazy streams everywhere, while the Hard’s jumps are mild and not really challenging. Best solution: Another diff between Insane and Hard. This diff looks fine to me, I guess. I can’t pass the diff at all because I’m a noob player, but I don’t really think there’s any need to make any big changes in this diff.

I can’t help with the Extra at all. Sorry >.<

Overall, I honestly don’t think this mapset is ready yet. Mainly because of the gap and the easier diffs that can do with a bit more polishing, but it’s not my call; it’s Leorda’s.
Anyway, good luck with this mapset. I hope to see it ranked in the near future~

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-05-03T15:35:54+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
General:
Firstly, I just want to place your attention on the fact that the Insane and Extra has the exact same slider velocity, which causes the SV spread to be a bit unbalanced: E…N…H…..IE. I suggest the following: Insane – maybe 1.60 and Extra – keep it 1.80 then. Not such a big issue I guess, but I still wanted to mention this though. Yeah.. personally i see it as not of a big of a deal
Just double-check the metadata with an expert please (cuz I’m not one) but I did find this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcQOagEOnkc
So maybe the metadata has to be: Last Note. – The Last Effect (feat. Hatsune Miku)
Just check that please. I went with another youtube video before, but I saw in the description on this video that it had a link to the correct metadata. Thanks!
There’s a very big gap between the Hard and Insane. When I compare the two, there’s a big difficulty difference between them. The Hard is not that hard at all. The only thing that makes the diff difficult is the triples. But in the Insane there’s a lot of streams, jumps, etc. My advice would be that you have to add a diff between the Hard and Insane and maybe call it “Light Insane”. You can also try making the Insane easier or the Hard harder but that may just cause new problems, like then the gap between Insane and Extra is too big or the gap between Hard and Normal is too big. Your best bet: New diff between Hard and Insane. I will concider making a light insane.
To be safe, change audio lead-in to 2000ms. got it
The following hitsound is unused:
soft-hitfinish2.wav
I found that hitsound that’s unused. It will be best to remove it. renamed to soft-hitfinish
The Insane has a different video offset than the other diffs. Just make sure all the diffs have the same video offset. The right offset is 1014. Your Insane’s offset is 1076. fix
In the Insane, AiBat found there’s two duplicate green lines on that one tick: 00:14:006 so just make sure there’s only one green line there. didnt notice, thanks

Easy:
00:12:743 (1,1) –Wow, the reaction time between the spinner and the next note is really short. I’m not sure this will be acceptable since it’s fairly difficult and uncomfortable for beginners. My advice would be to remove the spinner and just map that area out. It’s always better to play it safe than cross your fingers and hope it will be ignored. let my friend try it who just started playing osu and he didnt have a problem with it, neither do i
01:02:006 (1,2) –This looks a bit weird. Rather try this: fix
Picture
01:12:111 (1,2) –Not really the best flow and flow is very important in an Easy diff. Imo, this flow is better: fix
Picture
Hm, your comboing in the first kiai time doesn’t really make any sense. You placed a new combo here: 01:22:690 (1) – but not here: 01:17:638 (2) – and here: 01:27:743 (2) - for the same beat. Rather remove new combo here: 01:22:690 (1) - fix
01:40:532 (2,1) –Hm, this looks ugly. It’s possible to stack them nicely, so please do. whoops, fix
01:40:532 (2,1) –Another inconsistency in comboing. You placed a new combo here: 02:03:901 (1) – but not here: 01:13:375 (2) – and it’s the exact same beat. My suggestion would be to remove the new combo here: 02:03:901 (1) fix
02:13:217 (1) –For consistency, remove the new combo here: 02:13:217 (1) – was fixed in last update
02:43:375 (1) –Uhh, this spinner doesn’t really fit imo and it’s very short. Too short for an Easy imo. Just remove the spinner. I think it will be better if you just end the diff here: 02:43:059 (3) –

Normal:
Change the approach rate to 6 to support the fast SV. You’ll also realize that the diff will play a bit better since the notes appear a bit later. wow, youre right xD
00:48:427 (2,3) –Check this spacing again please. (3) is a bit too far away from (2). Remember, spacing must be consistent throughout the entire diff. fix
00:12:269 –This is quite an important beat imo that has to be mapped. Change (4) into a short slider. Like this: fix
Picture
00:12:743 (1) –I don’t really like this spinner here. It seems so out of place . . . I would remove the spinner and map the area out instead.
01:06:111 (4,2) –Eh, I don’t really like overlaps like this. They just look really ugly. If I were you, I would try to place the slider somewhere where it doesn’t overlap anything. done
01:15:269 (1) –To be safe, I would suggest placing the head of the slider in the middle of the spinner for better reaction time.
01:22:217 (1,4) –Uh, overlapping . . . its 5 white ticks away, doesnt bother
Picture
02:23:480 (2,3) –Just doublecheck this spacing again please. fixed
02:43:217 (1) –Unnecessary spinner, like in Easy. Just end the diff here: 02:42:743 (5) – This counts for all diffs where you added this spinner. maybe ill ask the guest mappers about this

Thanks alot for the mod

off topic: this is really confusing and hard to read xD http://puu.sh/hzWkr/2fdbf96d08.png

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,528 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2015-05-16T04:29:30+00:00

Took a quick look, I think the simpler difficulties are just not quite right at the moment.

General

You should have faded out the song much more immediately after 02:43:059 - right now it really sounds incomplete and unfinished by ending later than that when you stopped mapping already

Add ブラザーP (BrotherP's name)

You can follow the way they presented the Artist on the album VOCAROCK collection 3 feat. 初音ミク,
use Artist as: Last Note. feat.初音ミク
Romanised: Last Note. feat.Hatsune Miku
note no spacing between the period and Hatsune

http://vocarock3.jp/

Easy

AR 4

00:06:427 (3) - NC
00:07:532 (1,2,1) - this rhythm is too confusing, and doesn't fit to the music as well as it can be, try this:

SPOILER

00:08:953 - also the next NC would be here
00:12:585 (1) - finish?
01:07:059 (1) - finish on start of slider
01:13:375 (2) - either this follows 02:03:901 (1) and NC or 02:03:901 (1) follows the former and not NC
01:20:322 (4) - NC instead of 01:20:953 (1)
01:22:217 (2) - NC
01:25:375 (2) - NC
01:39:901 - 01:54:444 - I can see the blatant copy paste from the previous verse, and it looks very very bad and boring. Even changing shapes does much better than this
02:07:690 (3) - NC
02:12:743 (3) - NC
02:17:796 (3) - NC
02:05:164 - 02:22:848 - again not only is the rhythm the same but the shapes are too, which makes it very copy paste again, when it gets obvious and used for a long period, it gets very boring

Normal

OD 4, or else there is the biggest jump in OD between Normal and Hard

Your Easy had mostly beats every 2 beats, and between objects it almost never (maybe never) had any there were 1 beat apart, closest being 1.5 beats apart. Now your Normal implements 1 beats apart as the norm and uses that very frequently, and not just that, there is a lot of 1/2 beats included as well, which is too big a jump from Easy. Either something between these difficulties uses mainly 1 beat apart with some 2 beats spacing between objects still implemented, and maybe some 1/2 beat sliders to introduce that rhythm, or this Normal gets simplified much more, then the issue will be between Hard. Or you make Easy harder.

Ichigaki

1,767 posts

Joined February 2013

Ichigaki 2015-05-16T07:49:04+00:00

Hi Im Nathan wrote:
Hi from your M4M queue

[Hard]
00:05:480 (1) - Wouldnt this be a better representation of the rhythm..?
Timeline
Not bad
00:07:848 (2,3) - Delet these 2 NC's? To symbolize all 3 notes are part of the anti jumps After some check, okay. (Some days ago someone pointed this too, but rejected)
00:12:901 (1,1) - ^ ^
00:28:848 (2) - Maybe delete this note for emphasis? Ok
01:49:532 (1) - Stack or move further down a tiny bit Stacked

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
Hi~ modding from your M4M queue~

Ichi's Hard
02:20:006 (6,1) - Make the space between these 2 bigger, approach circle is almost unreadable.Thanks for pointed this
02:43:138 (1) - I think there should be 1/4 more space for this spinner to start. Ok

Couldn't find much in harder difficulties, sorry I hope this mod helped you

-Nya- wrote:

From above queue~]

Ichi’s Hard:
00:28:690 (1,2,1) –I can understand why you anti-jumped these notes: 00:12:585 (1,1,1) – cuz they’re clearly beats on their own and there are no vocals, but I think it would be better if you spaced these notes: 00:28:690 (1,2,1) – out normally. Also rather, remove new combo here: 00:29:006 (1) – and add new combo here: 00:29:164 (2) – Ok
01:14:006 (1,2) –Space these notes out a bit more to emphasize the pause a bit better and avoid confusion. They are currently a bit too close to 01:13:532 (2) – Done
01:28:375 (3) –Hm, you missed a lot of important beats here. Why not try a rhythm like this instead: Followed your suggestion
Picture
01:40:848 (4) –Weird flow. Rather Ctrl+J then Ctrl+H and then Ctrl+G.Is it? Changed
02:19:217 (3,4) –Stack perfectly? Ok
02:43:138 (1) –Eh, unnecessary spinner. I would just end the diff here: 02:42:901 (5) – Removed

I can’t help with the Extra at all. Sorry >.<

Overall, I honestly don’t think this mapset is ready yet. Mainly because of the gap and the easier diffs that can do with a bit more polishing, but it’s not my call; it’s Leorda’s.
Anyway, good luck with this mapset. I hope to see it ranked in the near future~

Thank you guys~~

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 74638
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:The Last Effect
TitleUnicode:ラストエフェクト
Artist:Last Note.
ArtistUnicode:Last Note.
Creator:DavidEd
Version:Ichi's Hard
Source:
Tags:Vocaloid Vocaloid2 Hatsune Miku Angel Call VOCAROCK BrotherP 初音ミク Ichigaki Milhofo
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[Difficulty]
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OverallDifficulty:6
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Dilectus

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Dilectus 2015-05-16T11:47:53+00:00

neonat wrote:
Took a quick look, I think the simpler difficulties are just not quite right at the moment.

General

You should have faded out the song much more immediately after 02:43:059 - right now it really sounds incomplete and unfinished by ending later than that when you stopped mapping already It was meant to be a spinner right there that would end at 02:44:717 and that would work since the song stars fading out at 02:45:585

Add ブラザーP (BrotherP's name) Added

You can follow the way they presented the Artist on the album VOCAROCK collection 3 feat. 初音ミク,
use Artist as: Last Note. feat.初音ミク
Romanised: Last Note. feat.Hatsune Miku
note no spacing between the period and Hatsune

http://vocarock3.jp/

fixed

Easy

AR 4 fix

00:06:427 (3) - NC fix
00:07:532 (1,2,1) - this rhythm is too confusing, and doesn't fit to the music as well as it can be, try this: fix
SPOILER
00:08:953 - also the next NC would be here fix
00:12:585 (1) - finish? forgot about it
01:07:059 (1) - finish on start of slider fix
01:13:375 (2) - either this follows 02:03:901 (1) and NC or 02:03:901 (1) follows the former and not NC followed the other ones and put nc on 01:13:375
01:20:322 (4) - NC instead of 01:20:953 (1) fix
01:22:217 (2) - NC fix
01:25:375 (2) - NC fix
01:39:901 - 01:54:444 - I can see the blatant copy paste from the previous verse, and it looks very very bad and boring. Even changing shapes does much better than this follow the same rhythm but made somewhat different shapes
02:07:690 (3) - NC fix
02:12:743 (3) - NC fix
02:17:796 (3) - NC fix
02:05:164 - 02:22:848 - again not only is the rhythm the same but the shapes are too, which makes it very copy paste again, when it gets obvious and used for a long period, it gets very boring made different shapes on sliders that wasnt blanketing

Normal

OD 4, or else there is the biggest jump in OD between Normal and Hard fix

Your Easy had mostly beats every 2 beats, and between objects it almost never (maybe never) had any there were 1 beat apart, closest being 1.5 beats apart. Now your Normal implements 1 beats apart as the norm and uses that very frequently, and not just that, there is a lot of 1/2 beats included as well, which is too big a jump from Easy. Either something between these difficulties uses mainly 1 beat apart with some 2 beats spacing between objects still implemented, and maybe some 1/2 beat sliders to introduce that rhythm, or this Normal gets simplified much more, then the issue will be between Hard. Or you make Easy harder. made the easier a little harder

Thank you for the mod on the easier difficulties, they've been a problem really xD

RVMathew

985 posts

Joined December 2013

RVMathew 2015-06-14T17:54:21+00:00

Hi there. RVMathew reporting for Modding Duty. Sorry for the late reply.

Whatever I say is my own opinion, so you do not have to follow what I say.

Changes are separated into boxes.

General Changes

02:45:111 I was thinking that for all difficulties you can extend the spinner so it ends here (move the timing point as well). The reason is that the the new spinner will end as soon as she finishes singing "ushinatta" , instead of cutting halfway.

AI Mod

1) Tags in Ichi's hard difficulty seem to be in conflict with other difficulties. Please make sure that all of the tags are matching for consistency.

2) For Light Insane diff:
- 02:11:636 Objects end is not snapped.
- 02:14:794 Objects end is not snapped.

Easy

No changes Needed.

Normal

No changes needed.

Ichi's Hard

[box=Light Insane]This is a well done difficulty.
1) I feel that the name should be changed to Insane instead of light insane.

2) 01:01:217 This note is 1.23x distance from the previous note when from 01:00:743 to 01:01:059 the notes are 1.20x distance apart. I think you should put the note at 01:01:217 at 1.20x distance away to maintain symmetry.

Last two diffs: I am not really that skilled at playing so I cannot give you an accurate idea of what you should do. However from seeing them it looks fun to play and you have the rhythm knocked down. I would ask someone else to mod these difficulties.

Final Thoughts: I really like the Light Insane diff, even though I believe it should warrant the insane diff name. That one is really well made.

Good luck and keep at it (I reckon it will be bubbled soon). Sorry if my mod was not up to your standard.

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-06-14T21:59:53+00:00

RVMathew wrote:
Hi there. RVMathew reporting for Modding Duty. Sorry for the late reply. No problem

Whatever I say is my own opinion, so you do not have to follow what I say.

Changes are separated into boxes.

General Changes
02:45:111 I was thinking that for all difficulties you can extend the spinner so it ends here (move the timing point as well). The reason is that the the new spinner will end as soon as she finishes singing "ushinatta" , instead of cutting halfway. i was actually thinking i'd end it on the white tick since thats where the song fades out 02:45:585 but ill talk to the guest mappers about it

AI Mod
1) Tags in Ichi's hard difficulty seem to be in conflict with other difficulties. Please make sure that all of the tags are matching for consistency. whoops, didnt see this

2) For Light Insane diff:
- 02:11:636 Objects end is not snapped. fix
- 02:14:794 Objects end is not snapped. fix

Last two diffs: I am not really that skilled at playing so I cannot give you an accurate idea of what you should do. However from seeing them it looks fun to play and you have the rhythm knocked down. I would ask someone else to mod these difficulties.

Final Thoughts: I really like the Light Insane diff, even though I believe it should warrant the insane diff name. That one is really well made. im really happy how it turned out.

Good luck and keep at it (I reckon it will be bubbled soon). Sorry if my mod was not up to your standard. every mod is useful in some way. ^^

Thank you for the mod!

Ichigaki

1,767 posts

Joined February 2013

Ichigaki 2015-06-16T02:36:23+00:00

RVMathew wrote:
Hi there. RVMathew reporting for Modding Duty. Sorry for the late reply.

Whatever I say is my own opinion, so you do not have to follow what I say.

Changes are separated into boxes.

General Changes
02:45:111 I was thinking that for all difficulties you can extend the spinner so it ends here (move the timing point as well). The reason is that the the new spinner will end as soon as she finishes singing "ushinatta" , instead of cutting halfway. Change this

AI Mod
1) Tags in Ichi's hard difficulty seem to be in conflict with other difficulties. Please make sure that all of the tags are matching for consistency. Fixed by DavidEd himself

Ichi's Hard
There're no mod for this?

Good luck and keep at it (I reckon it will be bubbled soon). Sorry if my mod was not up to your standard.

Update

Hard

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 74638
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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TitleUnicode:ラストエフェクト
Artist:Last Note. feat.Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:Last Note. feat.初音ミク
Creator:DavidEd
Version:Ichi's Hard
Source:
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OverallDifficulty:6
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Edit : Just some suggestion about SR, I just decrease some SR of mine from 3,34 into 3,15 because of some hard streams that still included (now already removed). I hope you can decrease that SR in Light Insane, so that'd be a perfect gap for all diffs

-Visceral-

644 posts

Joined August 2012

-Visceral- 2015-06-22T23:09:01+00:00

[General]

Fine

[Milhofo's Extra]

00:03:901 (1,2,3,4) - I don't agree with the spacing you have going on here. It doesn't play well to have 1.8 spacing into 1.4 (the slider) and then continue to have quite smaller spacing. It doesn't fit well with the song in my eyes. Consider reducing the spacing of the triangle (and actually make it equal at least) and make the 3rd note of the triangle jump to the slider. I feel that would work better.

00:13:375 (4,5) - I'm not a fan with this flow. The sharp turn by 4 into another sharp turn going the other direction by 5 doesn't play well, and it doesn't feel right to have to go backwards from the direction 4 sends you to get to the beginning of 5. Perhaps reduce the curve on both (keeping them symmetrical) and have 4 lead into 5 cleaner, but still keeping a similar concept of the mirrored sliders.

00:16:375 (7) - Try stacking this with 00:15:111 (6)

00:17:006 (2,3,4) - The way these look isn't very appealing. Consider moving 3 to be more in alignment with 2 and 4 and have it curve into 4 like so http://i.imgur.com/2EYn53Z.png

00:17:164 (4,5,1) - I don't like this flow here. I agree with breaking the flow with 1 but the break of flow between 4 and 5 seems rather forced and uncomfortable to play. Consider having the flow between 4 and 5 be smoother but keep the break of flow between 5 and 1 that you have now.

00:20:953 (5,6) - I feel slider 6 should be 5 but rotated 30 degrees. It would be more appealing to the eye and it would be smoother to play.

01:06:743 (2) - This would be better if you took 1, mirrored it horizontally and vertically, and rotated it negative 30 degrees.

01:48:743 (1) - I'm not a fan of this. Comes out of nowhere and it doesn't make sense to be mapping the drums and then suddenly throw a super slow slider that follows the vocals instead.

02:42:111 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Sloppy ending jumps. Make a star with the 1-5 notes and position 6-7 something like this http://i.imgur.com/J6219cL.png . Make a perfect star, of course; this was just a sloppy representation.

Check editor for unused greenlines: 2:35:875 and the next 5-ish seconds has multiple that you can delete.

[Insane]

00:02:006 (3,4) - I feel there should be 1.4 spacing (similar to the previous sliders) here. It fits in better with the rhythm of the song.

00:04:375 (3,4) - This could be a much cleaner blanket

00:06:427 (1,2,3) - In my opinion, these sorts of patterns (there are multiple more like this one) can be spaced out more. It feels rather anticlimactic as it is. Don't overspace them, though. At the very least, I would have a sort of sharper flow between the three.

00:46:059 (4,5,6) - Position this so that it is equidistant from 2 and 1. It appears much more appealing visually.

01:09:426 (8,9,1) - This isn't straight. Pretty nazi change but change it nonetheless xD

01:18:269 (1,4) - I would stack these.

01:20:638 (6,7) - Swapping the location of these two suits a much better flow

01:56:953 (5,6) - This jump feels much too large for a part like this. Consider making the flow smoother as well. Actually, you can keep the distance as long as the flow is smoothened out a bit. It plays very awkwardly right now.

02:05:164 - So since this kiai is LITERALLY a copy-paste of the previous kiai except mirrored................. just apply the changed I suggested for the previous kiai and mirror them. Lol.

[Light Insane]

00:30:427 (1,2,3,4) - This needs to be a perfected diamond; 00:30:901 (4) - move this to y:152 and move stacked notes accordingly

01:14:006 (1,2) - If you move these two notes here it flows better because it follows the angle of the slider: http://i.imgur.com/ilHi6uj.png

02:09:901 (6,7,8,9) - Angle this so that it follows the angle the following slider is.

[Ichi's Hard]

00:07:532 (1,2,3) - Honestly I would just make these more linear. Appears kinda clumps the way it is right now.

01:13:059 (1) - I'm not a fan of the fact that this slider ends on a high-impact note. Consider just making it a circle and have a slider where it ends and have that sldier end where 2 is.

01:53:796 (1) - The appearence of this slider bothers me a tad. Try to make the curve like so to make it more appealing: http://i.imgur.com/1fVWAFx.png

02:00:743 (3,1) - There needs to be more space in between these. You can't have 1/4 notes with the same spacing as 1/2 notes in a diff like this. It's impossible to read for players this level.

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Dilectus 2015-06-23T00:07:35+00:00

Smoothie World wrote:
[Insane]

00:02:006 (3,4) - I feel there should be 1.4 spacing (similar to the previous sliders) here. It fits in better with the rhythm of the song.

00:04:375 (3,4) - This could be a much cleaner blanket fix

00:06:427 (1,2,3) - In my opinion, these sorts of patterns (there are multiple more like this one) can be spaced out more. It feels rather anticlimactic as it is. Don't overspace them, though. At the very least, I would have a sort of sharper flow between the three. fix (used ds 1.6x)

00:46:059 (4,5,6) - Position this so that it is equidistant from 2 and 1. It appears much more appealing visually. fix

01:09:426 (8,9,1) - This isn't straight. Pretty nazi change but change it nonetheless xD

01:18:269 (1,4) - I would stack these. fix

01:20:638 (6,7) - Swapping the location of these two suits a much better flow fix

01:56:953 (5,6) - This jump feels much too large for a part like this. Consider making the flow smoother as well. Actually, you can keep the distance as long as the flow is smoothened out a bit. It plays very awkwardly right now.

02:05:164 - So since this kiai is LITERALLY a copy-paste of the previous kiai except mirrored................. just apply the changed I suggested for the previous kiai and mirror them. Lol. shhhh

[Light Insane]

00:30:427 (1,2,3,4) - This needs to be a perfected diamond; 00:30:901 (4) - move this to y:152 and move stacked notes accordingly fix

01:14:006 (1,2) - If you move these two notes here it flows better because it follows the angle of the slider: http://i.imgur.com/ilHi6uj.png fix

02:09:901 (6,7,8,9) - Angle this so that it follows the angle the following slider is.

Thanks for the nm mod ^^

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

- Milhofo - 2015-06-23T10:26:02+00:00

Smoothie World wrote:
[Milhofo's Extra]

00:03:901 (1,2,3,4) - I don't agree with the spacing you have going on here. It doesn't play well to have 1.8 spacing into 1.4 (the slider) and then continue to have quite smaller spacing. It doesn't fit well with the song in my eyes. Consider reducing the spacing of the triangle (and actually make it equal at least) and make the 3rd note of the triangle jump to the slider. I feel that would work better. I made the spacing more consistent, but I still think the song asks for more spacing at the start, so I left the 1.8x spacing

00:13:375 (4,5) - I'm not a fan with this flow. The sharp turn by 4 into another sharp turn going the other direction by 5 doesn't play well, and it doesn't feel right to have to go backwards from the direction 4 sends you to get to the beginning of 5. Perhaps reduce the curve on both (keeping them symmetrical) and have 4 lead into 5 cleaner, but still keeping a similar concept of the mirrored sliders. Agreed, changed

00:16:375 (7) - Try stacking this with 00:15:111 (6) Fixed

00:17:006 (2,3,4) - The way these look isn't very appealing. Consider moving 3 to be more in alignment with 2 and 4 and have it curve into 4 like so http://i.imgur.com/2EYn53Z.png Did so

00:17:164 (4,5,1) - I don't like this flow here. I agree with breaking the flow with 1 but the break of flow between 4 and 5 seems rather forced and uncomfortable to play. Consider having the flow between 4 and 5 be smoother but keep the break of flow between 5 and 1 that you have now. Changed the shape of the sliders and the direction of the second, flow improved a lot

00:20:953 (5,6) - I feel slider 6 should be 5 but rotated 30 degrees. It would be more appealing to the eye and it would be smoother to play. Nice one, changed

01:06:743 (2) - This would be better if you took 1, mirrored it horizontally and vertically, and rotated it negative 30 degrees. I don't mind how this one is right now :3

01:48:743 (1) - I'm not a fan of this. Comes out of nowhere and it doesn't make sense to be mapping the drums and then suddenly throw a super slow slider that follows the vocals instead. I really do think the slow fits there, I did however reduce it by a lot, so shouldn't come as a big a surprise now and should be a lot more playable

02:42:111 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Sloppy ending jumps. Make a star with the 1-5 notes and position 6-7 something like this http://i.imgur.com/J6219cL.png . Make a perfect star, of course; this was just a sloppy representation. I like how it is, starts in a star shape and goes for a triangle, I already used some star shapes in the chorus and want something different for the end

Check editor for unused greenlines: 2:35:875 and the next 5-ish seconds has multiple that you can delete. I don't remember why I used them therem removed

Thanks for the mod! > UPDATE <

Kuki

722 posts

Joined October 2013

Kuki 2015-07-31T12:54:10+00:00

[Insane]
00:28:848 (9,10,1) - Fix spacing here.
00:52:532 (6,1) - Stack perhaps instead.
01:43:690 (1,2,3,4,5) - Even out spacing.

[Milhofo's Extra]
00:27:111 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think you could smooth this a little more.
00:33:585 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Stack on 00:32:796 (8) - perhaps. Looks nicer and flows nicer too I think.
01:25:217 (2,3,4) - Snap to grid to fix overlap.
01:32:085 (2,5) - Fix overlap and/or snap to grid to fix I think.

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

- Milhofo - 2015-07-31T19:18:00+00:00

Kuki wrote:
[Milhofo's Extra]
00:27:111 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think you could smooth this a little more. done
00:33:585 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Stack on 00:32:796 (8) - perhaps. Looks nicer and flows nicer too I think. I think the current flows well, yours would be a good option, but it was purely mapping choice
01:25:217 (2,3,4) - Snap to grid to fix overlap. it's snapped with the slider, the rest is overlapping due to stacking
01:32:085 (2,5) - Fix overlap and/or snap to grid to fix I think. fixed (5), (2) was ok

Thanks for the mod!

UPDATE

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Dilectus

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Dilectus 2015-07-31T21:38:33+00:00

Kuki wrote:

[Insane]
00:28:848 (9,10,1) - Fix spacing here. fix
00:52:532 (6,1) - Stack perhaps instead. fix
01:43:690 (1,2,3,4,5) - Even out spacing. fix

Ty for mod ^^

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2015-08-02T10:37:10+00:00

lmao I'm so tired end my life

Overall:
Did you really cut the song

did you like

you didn't even cut in a normal place like wtf randomly after the guitar solo???

Generally I don't get annoyed by cut songs but like this is just so. . . weird. It's not even in a like TV size kind of thing like it's just so random.

Extra:
00:24:111 (1) - Ok this is just ugly

01:10:690 (4) - So like you have the perfect setting to make a parallel slider thing, and you make it just slightly off. Makes me sad

01:34:848 - Pull the break back so it starts here.
01:50:006 (1) - Make the beginning of the slider the same angle as the end pls
02:15:269 (1) - ^ pls pls
02:32:953 (1,1,1) - I was skyping with a friend and I was literally like "Oh my god no no no no". If you're going to do this, make pretty sliders, don't make your map cramped. Generally, you don't want to overlap things a lot like this.
02:35:480 (1,1,1) - See, this is how you do that

Insane:
00:09:427 (2) - So uhhh you should REALLY make this a pattern with (1). It'll look a LOT better than it does now.

Light Insane:
01:55:059 (1,2,3,4) - So much potential for a parallel slider thing and you missed it.

Hard:
00:07:532 (1,2,3,1) - This spacing is really hard to read.
00:12:111 (2,1,2,3,1) - ^
00:55:690 (4,5) - Patterns are nice. You should always focus on patterns. Because otherwise you're going to have really random sliders like this that don't look good at all

02:07:690 (7,1,2,3) - Same as before. apply this to all similar patterns.

Normal:
This map is mostly 1/1 with some long sliders while hard is a lot of 1/2 with some 1/4. So the spread is no good

. It'd be better to add some more notes to Normal to even it out. This is mostly applicable to the beginning of the verses, but it wouldn't hurt to apply this to the rest of the map.
00:48:585 (2,3,1) - You have the chance for a pattern here and you don't do it. I'm crying.
01:34:848 - extend break to here pls

Easy:
pls consistently put claps on 2 and 4 instead of 3.
00:14:638 (1) - Not enough space after the spinner

Good stuff mostly. And hopefully it's not just because it's 4 AM.

Dilectus

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Dilectus 2015-08-02T21:00:26+00:00

Will add changes later. Just changed the mp3 so I have to map the rest of the song. That goes for you too, Milhofo and Ichigaki. ^^

- Milhofo -

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- Milhofo - 2015-08-02T23:24:51+00:00

wait whaaat, so I will have a really hard stream mid song, and my mapping style changed a lot since I mapped this, idk how this will end xd

Dilectus

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Dilectus 2015-08-04T12:02:14+00:00

Reditum wrote:
lmao I'm so tired end my life

Overall:
Did you really cut the song

did you like

you didn't even cut in a normal place like wtf randomly after the guitar solo???

Generally I don't get annoyed by cut songs but like this is just so. . . weird. It's not even in a like TV size kind of thing like it's just so random. that's because I used the mp3 of an already existing map. I've changed the mp3 now so it's the full song instead.

Insane:
00:09:427 (2) - So uhhh you should REALLY make this a pattern with (1). It'll look a LOT better than it does now. fix

Light Insane:
01:55:059 (1,2,3,4) - So much potential for a parallel slider thing and you missed it. elaborate please, and no change

Normal:
This map is mostly 1/1 with some long sliders while hard is a lot of 1/2 with some 1/4. So the spread is no good . It'd be better to add some more notes to Normal to even it out. This is mostly applicable to the beginning of the verses, but it wouldn't hurt to apply this to the rest of the map. i tried putting some circles in there instead of sliders
00:48:585 (2,3,1) - You have the chance for a pattern here and you don't do it. I'm crying. its ok
01:34:848 - extend break to here pls fix

Easy:
pls consistently put claps on 2 and 4 instead of 3. it wouldnt sound good in my opinion
00:14:638 (1) - Not enough space after the spinner

Good stuff mostly. And hopefully it's not just because it's 4 AM. T^T

Ty for mod!

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