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Hanatan - Jishou Mushoku [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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Rakuen

-Bakari- wrote:

Yo, as requested by you-probably-already-know-who. :)

[Rakuen's Hard]
  1. Try Slider tick rate 3 as it makes much more sense with the music. Even Normal has STR 3, so, why don't you follow pishi's exaple? I have a lot on vocal ;3
  2. 00:10:807 (1,2) - the curves at these sliders make no sense with the music and create an unnatural change of the flow. I dont get what sense QAQ. For the flow I think it's cool to play :)
    Note: 00:29:807 (4,5) - 00:53:807 (3,4) - 01:26:807 (1,2) - same here. I find it unpleasant to play. Sorry, no change. When get used to it, it's very nice :D (don't stare at slider ball when u slide)[color]
  3. 00:32:140 (4,5,1,2) - pleas unstack, as the gap between 00:32:306 (5,1) - feels pretty confusing while playing and makes players feel awkward.

    Looks okay. I just really disagree with the sliders.
They're really good suggestions

What sliders make sense or not is a little subjective ;3

Thanks for the mods!

Meyrink wrote:

Rakuen's Hard
  1. 00:28:640 (6,1) - Switch NC
  2. 00:32:640 (1,2) - same No change, vocal is stacked
  3. 00:53:473 (2) - a CTRL+G for this will work good Both are nice, but not too hard here
  4. 00:55:807 (3,1) - stack would be so good here ! u can do and then stack this 00:55:807 (3,1) - slider's end to 00:58:307 (5) - like this ? Keep, it's clearer to read
  5. 01:08:640 (1) - Remove NC And NC this one 01:08:807 (2) - ! makes more sense What sense...NC is not designed for strong beat, it's a "New Combo" (PM me if wanna know what means combo ;3)
  6. 01:10:640 (1,2) - same for those 2 ^
  7. 01:11:807 (1) - u can remove nc from this one since vocal still there ^ For specific patterns they are acceptable
Thanks for the mods!
Meyrink
@Rakuen I know about combos ! it's just me i use them only in new Measures ! or sv change !
i can understand what u mean o/
pishifat
lowered od and fixed distnace snap things from meyrink's mod. the overlap is fine :p

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 56307
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
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BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Jishou Mushoku
TitleUnicode:自傷無色
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Moo-Chan
Version:pishi's Normal
Source:
Tags:hatsune miku utaite vocaloid achromatic nicovideo self inflicted pishifat rakuen smug- vhy cut
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Topic Starter
Moo-Chan
bakari

-Bakari- wrote:

Yo, as requested by you-probably-already-know-who. :) yup :P

[General]
  1. I suggest using a darker-green/brown combo colour instead of the bright yellow one. Let me know what you think :) changed it
[Easy]
  1. The difference between x1,05 and x1,08 multipliers is nearly unnoticeable, why don't you just stick to x1,05? i know i know, i changed it
  2. 00:15:807 (5,1) - this kind of stack isn't really readable for beginners. (1) appears too suddenly and some of newbies will be stressed by this. fixed it
  3. 01:11:807 (2) - try to make the beginning of kiai clickable, it should emphasize the best part of the song, after all. im actually gonna keep this x: Example
    Note: soince we've changed the one above, we should make 01:14:807 - this downbeat clickable as well. Just replace 01:14:307 (3) - with two circles or something like that and we'll be fine. Same with 01:16:807. fixed those both

    I'm not a fan of SV changes in the easier diffs and the fact that you have 4 different SV multiplier values makes me quite opset. Apart from that, it's a lovely diff. thanks c:
[Insane]
  1. 00:37:307 (2,3,4) - the gap between (2) and (3) might be easily misread as 2/3. There is nothing worth stressing at these beats, so jump feels random. Same happens a few more times, watch out. fixed the one you pointed out
  2. 00:44:307 (5) - minor - this gets overlapped with the score-meter. Not a serious problem, but I'd fix this. ima actually keep this. it doesnt hit the hit bar and even if, its not unrankable
  3. 00:52:807 (1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1) - be careful with that, too many NCs give an unnatural boost to players' HP and break the balance. got rid of the new combo here 00:54:307 (3)

    It looks like a nice diff but a few jumps feel out of place/exaggerated. mmk
Not much to say, you guys did well on this set. :)

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Best of luck!
meyrink

Meyrink wrote:

Hi ! irc chat request ! here's a quick mod !

General
  1. General is fine ! just try to reduce some extra empty space in the .wav files ! for example soft-hitnormal11 have 1200ms ! only 200ms is the sound and 1000ms is empty
  2. 01:28:640 - why kiai there ? .-. >.> i like it

Easy
  1. it's not really save to use sv change in easy ! it's okay for sections like kiai ! all 1.15 ! but imo 01:27:807 - 1x is useless ! and why 00:55:307 - 1.08x i suggest to keep 1.05 ! but anyways in general it will be better if u make all the map with just one SV ! with 1.1x in green lines would be safer
    Or you can use 1.15 SV ! then keep all green lines 1.0x ! changed them on kiai to 1.1x and got rid of the 1.08
  2. 00:14:807 (4,1) - i think u can improve that to avoid the overlap between the both sliders ! fixed
  3. 00:14:807 (4,5) - Spacing ! Snap to 1,0x fixed
  4. 00:18:807 (4) - imo u can add some shape to this slider to give it more flow feeling ! it look kinda sharp for me ! or u can try something diffirent oki
  5. 00:21:807 (2,4) - can u stack those ? idk if ds can help with dat i cant :/
  6. 00:22:807 (3,1) - small overlap sliders end its fine for now ;;
  7. 00:32:807 (1) - can u lower this a bit ? just modifer previous objet so u can lowe it , it may be touching hp bar its not touching
  8. 00:24:307 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing ! changed
  9. 00:32:807 (1,2) - ^ , u'll need to improve also the next objet after fixing this one ima keep what i have
  10. 00:36:807 (1,2) - ^ ;_; ;;?
  11. 01:09:807 (4,2) - ahhh NAZI o^o ! stack is slightly off fixed

Insane
  1. 00:15:307 (2,5) - u can try blanket here fixed
  2. 00:15:973 (4,5,6) - Imo Spacing is kinda awkward since there's no special thing in this beat 00:16:307 - that make sense for big spacing ! it sound like the previous beats ! wich need to be consistent ! u can try somthing like ! your what ever u think it fits http://puu.sh/gS9Sr/d675ebc849.jpg i reduced it a bit. puush is down atm so i cant see what you suggested :c
  3. 00:28:473 (6,7,1) - i'm don't really like this linear flow ! i would change flow to somthing sircular maybe ! something more smouth in playing ! how about CTRL+H on 00:28:807 (1) - and move a bit to left ! like this ima keep this cause i like the flow if it ;;
  4. 00:33:807 (3) - CTRL+G ? ima keep it how it is >.<
  5. 00:35:473 (3,4) - ^ ? i dont like the anti jump this will create
  6. 00:44:640 (6,3) - minor stack , too nazi fixed
  7. 01:07:473 (3,4) - this spacing is so big reduce it ! the music there is not strong , like these 01:12:140 (3,4,5,6) - are so good ! i reduced it
Such Song ! Lovely 1/3 i knoww
thanks for the mods ♥♥

all updated
Speed of Snail
Hey, your mod as requested.

EASY

01:06:807 - This slider here has a point that goes off the grid, consider revising

Easy is very good, honestly keep it the way it is, just that one tick to look at.

PISHI'S NORMAL

01:12:307 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid

Again, very nice so far, just that one tick I found

RAKUEN'S HARD

Miscellaneous - Not sure,. but the metadata on this diff is really screwed up, doesn't display properly and just comes through as jumbled symbols. Definitely figure out what causes this (This problem only seems to occur when the setting "prefer non-English metadata" is turned on)

00:10:640 - While it's possible I'm just being stupid here, What is this circle mapping? (Combo 6)

00:29:807 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid

INSANE

Miscellaneous - This may seem strange, but I feel like this diff could use a smaller CS than it currently has, I'd recommend between 4.2 and 4.4

00:27:807 - This slider has a point that goes off the grid.

01:22:807 - The flow is a little cut by the placement of this circle here (Combo 1) I'd suggest lowering it's position slightly

Yep, so far you've done a great job cleaning this map up, I'd say it's definitely close to being rankable.

SMUG'S INSANE

00:43:807 - This slider has a point that's off the grid

Additional - Honestly, if I had one problem with Smug's insane, it's the slider speed, The sliders are slower than the average cursor speed of the map, I'd recommend changing it to 2.2 velocity, and remember when you change it you have to replace all sliders afterwards or the timing will be off, and While you're at it, the combo count for the max diff is a little lower than I'd normally think, raise slider tick count to 2.

Well, it's a very solid map and there wasn't much for me to mod, so GL getting this one ranked :D
pishifat

TheOnlyLeon wrote:

PISHI'S NORMAL

01:12:307 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid

Again, very nice so far, just that one tick I found
it's k
Rakuen

TheOnlyLeon wrote:

RAKUEN'S HARD

Miscellaneous - Not sure,. but the metadata on this diff is really screwed up, doesn't display properly and just comes through as jumbled symbols. Definitely figure out what causes this (This problem only seems to occur when the setting "prefer non-English metadata" is turned on) Was an error, fixed

00:10:640 - While it's possible I'm just being stupid here, What is this circle mapping? (Combo 6) Looks fine to play I guess >.o)b , there are similar combos after that

00:29:807 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid Fixed
Thanks for the mods!

Update:
Rakuen's Hard
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Fizz

TheOnlyLeon wrote:

SMUG'S INSANE

00:43:807 - This slider has a point that's off the grid it's fine, not a major issue

Additional - Honestly, if I had one problem with Smug's insane, it's the slider speed, The sliders are slower than the average cursor speed of the map, I'd recommend changing it to 2.2 velocity, and remember when you change it you have to replace all sliders afterwards or the timing will be off, and While you're at it, the combo count for the max diff is a little lower than I'd normally think, raise slider tick count to 2. Sliders being slower is an intentional design aspect. Also slider tick 2 adds very out of beat sounds to the song and is quite annoying to listen to, so I'm gonna have to pass on that. I think combo count is kinda arbitrary anyway
Thanks for the mod~
I did some major changes on kiai time, following the bass moreso than vocals now:

updoot
osu file format v14

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Title:Jishou Mushoku
TitleUnicode:自傷無色
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Moo-Chan
Version:Smug's Insane
Source:
Tags:hatsune miku utaite vocaloid achromatic nicovideo self inflicted pishifat rakuen smug- vhy cut
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Topic Starter
Moo-Chan
no changes for me but thanks for the mod c:

all updated
DragonSlayer96
Thank your friend Xellie for the mod Moo-chan on the CtB map

General
Tags are conflicting. you can see this on Vhy's difficulty Had two difficulties that were taken out of the mapset, my bad

O.o all those custom hitsounds though

Rain
00:57:807 (3) - due to how the vocals are, i feel that this slider would be better going the other way.
01:13:307 (2) - ^ if you do, you want to edit the notes right after and (maybe???) just flip them around

Also, check AiMod. there is an unsnapped item for you to fix. ( 01:11:472 (4) - object end isn't snapped)

EDIT : fixed a sloppy error on my part
MBomb
Mod requested by Xellie for ctb diff lol

Vhy's Rain
00:11:307 (2,3) - I think this works better as a 2/3 slider.
00:19:307 (2,3) - ^ (Because these are held notes)
00:21:807 (7) - Whilst this would lead to a very short combo, I'd NC this because of the instrument change in mapping.
00:23:807 (7) - NC for emphasis on the strong beat and to avoid a long combo.
00:34:307 (5,6,7) - I like this as a 1/3 slider repeating once.
00:39:807 (5) - NC for strong beat and to avoid a long combo.
00:51:807 (4) - Possibly have 3 hyper into this? The beat is quite strong.
00:53:807 (4) - ^
01:25:807 (3) - The change from 2 to this feels weird without an NC in my opinion.

Alright, done.
Arphimigon
Requested mod~
I'm doing GDs aswell because short map = Spare time ha (don't kill me all those other GD mappers pls)

[Easy]
Admittedly very decent in patterns and flow but it is small touches overall that are what needs doing.
This is probably just gonna be opinions as the map is nice.
00:09:807 (2) - Can't this blanket the start of slider 1?
00:13:307 (2) - Angle is kinda harsh to this note considering this music is calm as hell~ imo 00:11:807 (4,1,2,3) - the notes could be made into a curve spacing anyway.
00:16:807 (1) - x:291 y:296 nazitriangle
00:20:307 (5,1) - Sounds and feels better as a note then a slider. (yes I can tell this is emphasizing the instrument but point stands it feels nicer after the reverse before)
00:30:807 (3) - Should be a reverse if 00:26:807 (3) - is for consistency.
00:39:807 (3) - Another naziblanket thing here (end point up middle point down)
00:51:807 (4) - Make it an 180 degree flip of last slider?
00:54:807 (1,1) - Neccessary NCs? Would remove one.
00:59:807 (3) - Sorry but flow is pointing more right than down here rip pattern.
01:08:307 (2,3,4,5,1) - Placement of notes in this is kinda weird. Make into a nicer curve? (Or a curve at all)
01:21:807 (2) - 180 degree flip of last slider if possible?
01:26:807 (1,1,1) - I can see the NCs are meant to emphasize this area but sadly it looks weird haha (and everyone complains about sections like these on my maps)

[Pishi's Normal]
Love this normal, loss of words. <3
00:18:307 (3) - Would make it more down to fit with the patterning of last notes/sliders.
00:46:640 (4,1,2,3) - Kinda makes a difficulty spike in terms of reading, change or keep as your will, either way make 00:47:307 (2) - point more upwards so the angle is same to previous and next please.

[Rakuen's Hard]
Nazi stuff incoming (rip this difficulty needed it the most)
00:09:307 (2) - x:264 y:246 naziblanket
00:10:307 (5) - Would play better as a curve imo
00:14:307 (6) - y:71 (I can see off pixel stacks in play OCD fox here)
00:16:473 (4,5,1) - Either fix the DS up here, or make the curve less harsh with the momentum needed here. This is weird as hell.
00:26:807 (1) - x:16 y:268 naziblanket
00:27:473 (2,3) - Weird to play this whilst on these ticks (i cant say blue/red rip)
00:55:307 (2) - Jump is fine, not emphasized THIS MUCH from 1.3 DS to 2.5 imo
01:08:807 (2) - Move middle point down a tad for naziblanket

[Smug's Insane]
The long sliders in this really cramped my style. Mapping to every sound then missing out ones is just... no please ouch.
00:10:140 - Why no sound here? (I see you do this as a recurring pattern so I wont point it our every time, still nice to know why.)
00:11:807 (1) - if you are going to use darty jumping like this, atleast stack it properly at x:451 y:302 <3
00:32:306 (4) - Pls follow curve, put it more up-left
00:46:807 (1) - So... off putting to stack this and last note... There isn't a good enough reason for this. It kinda ruins the momentum of the last jumps too.
01:00:307 - Sound?
01:08:140 (2) - Same as above but this just feels weird entirely. Having a long slider at a random time like this killed my brain (no offense but that's how I felt) you should make into a note + long slider (and delete next note)
01:16:140 (2) - Kinda okay here though

[Insane]
Pretty decent. Little things nothing big at all!
00:09:973 (3) - No reason for stack, breaks momentum and music isn't really "stopping" any time soon.
00:21:307 (3) - Feels better when raised a little.
00:44:307 (5,6,1) - Kinda weird with momentum pointing up-right (you can use slider leniency to your advantage for linear flow but still) I would try and make the flow to the slider pointing that direction more obvious -if possible-
00:48:473 (5,6,1) - Would equalize DS here.
01:03:307 (2) - Some reason I expected a reverse short slider, kinda helps in terms of the music and the previous slider.

I would actually love to see this ranked. I like the maps and the music, I think the difficulties really fit well with the song style (except the long sliders *stares at Smug*)
Good luck with this!
pishifat

Arphimigon wrote:

[Pishi's Normal]
Love this normal, loss of words. <3
00:18:307 (3) - Would make it more down to fit with the patterning of last notes/sliders. moved the other one down so they're equal now goodyay
00:46:640 (4,1,2,3) - Kinda makes a difficulty spike in terms of reading, change or keep as your will, either way make 00:47:307 (2) - point more upwards so the angle is same to previous and next please. angling a straight slider mroe than 15 degrees D: never
i also changed hitsounds completely because moo's hitsounds are gross af

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Topic Starter
Moo-Chan

pishifat wrote:

i also changed hitsounds completely because moo's hitsounds are gross af
wow so mean
Fizz

Arphimigon wrote:

[Smug's Insane]
The long sliders in this really cramped my style. | You're gonna have to be more specific than "long sliders" cause there are a lot of "long sliders" Mapping to every sound then missing out ones is just... no please ouch.

00:10:140 - Why no sound here? (I see you do this as a recurring pattern so I wont point it our every time, still nice to know why.) | Because it's the rhythm I chose
00:11:807 (1) - if you are going to use darty jumping like this, atleast stack it properly at x:451 y:302 <3 fixed
00:32:306 (4) - Pls follow curve, put it more up-left done
00:46:807 (1) - So... off putting to stack this and last note... There isn't a good enough reason for this. It kinda ruins the momentum of the last jumps too. changed
01:00:307 - Sound?
01:08:140 (2) - Same as above but this just feels weird entirely. Having a long slider at a random time like this killed my brain (no offense but that's how I felt) you should make into a note + long slider (and delete next note)
01:16:140 (2) - Kinda okay here though | Okay well clearly if you think that sometimes it's okay and others it's not you're just unaware of what I'm trying to map. Also next time don't bury your suggestion inside a potentially pissy comment and then justify it with "no offense" because that just makes me want to disregard your entire post.

Also I'm getting pretty tired of hearing suggestions to change this rhythm because unless for some reason I'm batshit crazy it's not that hard to figure out what I'm trying to map
I'm sick as shit and that comes with getting irritated really easily

update
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Title:Jishou Mushoku
TitleUnicode:自傷無色
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Topic Starter
Moo-Chan
arfimigon

Arphimigon wrote:

Requested mod~
I'm doing GDs aswell because short map = Spare time ha (don't kill me all those other GD mappers pls) :P

[Easy]
Admittedly very decent in patterns and flow but it is small touches overall that are what needs doing.
This is probably just gonna be opinions as the map is nice.
00:09:807 (2) - Can't this blanket the start of slider 1? fixed
00:13:307 (2) - Angle is kinda harsh to this note considering this music is calm as hell~ imo 00:11:807 (4,1,2,3) - the notes could be made into a curve spacing anyway. ima keep this cause i like the way it flows
00:16:807 (1) - x:291 y:296 nazitriangle fixed
00:20:307 (5,1) - Sounds and feels better as a note then a slider. (yes I can tell this is emphasizing the instrument but point stands it feels nicer after the reverse before) eh, im gonna keep
00:30:807 (3) - Should be a reverse if 00:26:807 (3) - is for consistency. ok
00:39:807 (3) - Another naziblanket thing here (end point up middle point down) fixed?
00:51:807 (4) - Make it an 180 degree flip of last slider? ima keep
00:54:807 (1,1) - Neccessary NCs? Would remove one. i have them here due to the way the song emphasizes the notes, and for consistency in my diffs
00:59:807 (3) - Sorry but flow is pointing more right than down here rip pattern. it plays perfectly fine though
01:08:307 (2,3,4,5,1) - Placement of notes in this is kinda weird. Make into a nicer curve? (Or a curve at all) k
01:21:807 (2) - 180 degree flip of last slider if possible? ehh
01:26:807 (1,1,1) - I can see the NCs are meant to emphasize this area but sadly it looks weird haha (and everyone complains about sections like these on my maps) same as above

[Insane]
Pretty decent. Little things nothing big at all!
00:09:973 (3) - No reason for stack, breaks momentum and music isn't really "stopping" any time soon. gonna keep
00:21:307 (3) - Feels better when raised a little. fixed
00:44:307 (5,6,1) - Kinda weird with momentum pointing up-right (you can use slider leniency to your advantage for linear flow but still) I would try and make the flow to the slider pointing that direction more obvious -if possible- eh, i would, its a great suggestion, but im gonna keep it because of the fact that i like the little movement to the left that you have to do
00:48:473 (5,6,1) - Would equalize DS here. its like this because of the louder pitch on the downbeat, so therefore it creates a smaller jump than the previous note
01:03:307 (2) - Some reason I expected a reverse short slider, kinda helps in terms of the music and the previous slider. it wouldnt fit imo :c

I would actually love to see this ranked. I like the maps and the music, I think the difficulties really fit well with the song style (except the long sliders *stares at Smug*) thanks ♥
Good luck with this!
Vhy

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Mod requested by Xellie for ctb diff lol

Vhy's Rain
00:11:307 (2,3) - I think this works better as a 2/3 slider.
00:19:307 (2,3) - ^ (Because these are held notes)
00:21:807 (7) - Whilst this would lead to a very short combo, I'd NC this because of the instrument change in mapping. for all NCs stuff i won't change them because it has its own placement. i put them in every 2 stanza constantly
00:23:807 (7) - NC for emphasis on the strong beat and to avoid a long combo.
00:34:307 (5,6,7) - I like this as a 1/3 slider repeating once. a repeat slider will completely changes the movement, in other word it will ruin the flow
00:39:807 (5) - NC for strong beat and to avoid a long combo.
00:51:807 (4) - Possibly have 3 hyper into this? The beat is quite strong. i keep it as it is. somehow it doesn't for me
00:53:807 (4) - ^ ^
01:25:807 (3) - The change from 2 to this feels weird without an NC in my opinion. you maybe right this one. added

Alright, done.

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

Rain
00:57:807 (3) - due to how the vocals are, i feel that this slider would be better going the other way. changed to a curved one
01:13:307 (2) - ^ if you do, you want to edit the notes right after and (maybe???) just flip them around :3

Also, check AiMod. there is an unsnapped item for you to fix. ( 01:11:472 (4) - object end isn't snapped) fixed
no reply mean fixed.

thanks for the mod

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Garven
Lazy mod

Easy could use more rhythmic diversity. Also try using circles a bit more during long stretches of sliders.

Topic Starter
Moo-Chan

Garven wrote:

Lazy mod

Easy could use more rhythmic diversity. Also try using circles a bit more during long stretches of sliders.

thanks garven bby, ill look into the easy and the ar of the insane
Kite
Hey, was asked to take a look into this mapset!

[General]
As Garven already pointed out, the kiai time at 01:28:640 - would work better if it started exactly at 01:28:807 - , this applies to the Easy, Insane and Smug's Insane diffs.

[Folder]
pishi's Normal.osu points to BeatmapID:0 and BeatmappSetID:-1 for some reason.. BeatmapID should be 654080 and BeatmapSetID should be 239627 .
It shouldn't be a big problem if it submitted normally but better to just change the values manually so everything is fine~

[Easy]

00:44:307 (5) - I don't like how this slider repeats onto the big white tick, it would benefit the structure of the map to start the next combo at 00:44:807 - instead. You could place a single circle at 00:44:307 - remove the repeat on the slider and place it on the next white tick instead. It would require you to rework the pattern here but might be worth to consider to improve the structure.

00:54:807 (1,1) - These are unneccessary new combo placements imo, I can see that you placed one on the slider because you have a slight SV speedup (1.05x SV) and it's there to indicate the speed change, but to be honest it's barely noticable. Also speed-ups are kinda to tricky to be used on an easy difficulty.
I would suggest to leave out the speedup here and remove the new combos. The speedup on the kiai seems alright to me~

01:08:307 (2) - I think having a new combo here instead of 01:06:807 (1) - seems better with the way you structured your new combo placement on the previous combos.

Following suggestions follow the same reason as the previous point:
01:10:807 (1) - Removew new combo
01:14:807 (1) - Same here
01:15:307 (4) - You forgot the clap on the sliderend
01:18:807 (1) - Remove new combo
01:22:807 (3) - Same here

01:26:807 (1,1,1) - Not sure what the reasoning behind the new combo spam here is, but imo it shouldn't be there

[Smug's Insane]
00:59:807 (1,2) - This rhythm sounds super awkward while playing, what about ctrl+g 01:00:140 (2,3) - here? This sounds a lot better as it follows vocals properly (respace accordingly)
01:08:140 (2,3) - Same here
01:09:640 (3,4,5) - Super dodgy spacing here, first a huge jump and then an anti jump with the same spacing as before.. move 4 closer?
01:12:473 (2,3) - Ctrl+g on these two notes will improve the playability and the flow towards the next object
EDIT:
01:16:140 (2,3) - Missed this earlier on, same rhythm suggestion as previously!
00:51:640 (1,2,3,4,5) - The sliders in this pattern would play more nicely if they each started on a white tick instead, rhythmically it's more appealing.

[Overall]
Really nice mapset, I didn't quite like the idea of having insane difficulties for this kind of song as they seem a bit of an overkill but it works out somehow
All diffs are made very well and even the hardest difficulty with all the jumps, which btw seem kinda random, plays fine as the patterns play and flow naturally
Anyways, hope this was helpful to you, sorry if I might have missed anything!
Good luck~
Topic Starter
Moo-Chan

Kite wrote:

Hey, was asked to take a look into this mapset! i know by whooo~

[General]
As Garven already pointed out, the kiai time at 01:28:640 - would work better if it started exactly at 01:28:807 - , this applies to the Easy, Insane and Smug's Insane diffs. mmk

[Folder]
pishi's Normal.osu points to BeatmapID:0 and BeatmappSetID:-1 for some reason.. BeatmapID should be 654080 and BeatmapSetID should be 239627 .
It shouldn't be a big problem if it submitted normally but better to just change the values manually so everything is fine~ fixed

[Easy]

00:44:307 (5) - I don't like how this slider repeats onto the big white tick, it would benefit the structure of the map to start the next combo at 00:44:807 - instead. You could place a single circle at 00:44:307 - remove the repeat on the slider and place it on the next white tick instead. It would require you to rework the pattern here but might be worth to consider to improve the structure. fixed

00:54:807 (1,1) - These are unneccessary new combo placements imo, I can see that you placed one on the slider because you have a slight SV speedup (1.05x SV) and it's there to indicate the speed change, but to be honest it's barely noticable. Also speed-ups are kinda to tricky to be used on an easy difficulty.
I would suggest to leave out the speedup here and remove the new combos. The speedup on the kiai seems alright to me~ ill remove the speed up but i am keeping the nc. if i do get any other complaints about it then ill fix it

01:08:307 (2) - I think having a new combo here instead of 01:06:807 (1) - seems better with the way you structured your new combo placement on the previous combos. ill keep it how it is

Following suggestions follow the same reason as the previous point:
01:10:807 (1) - Removew new combo k
01:14:807 (1) - Same here ^
01:15:307 (4) - You forgot the clap on the sliderend fixed
01:18:807 (1) - Remove new combo ok
01:22:807 (3) - Same here ^

01:26:807 (1,1,1) - Not sure what the reasoning behind the new combo spam here is, but imo it shouldn't be there got rid of the nc on the second (1)

[Overall]
Really nice mapset, I didn't quite like the idea of having insane difficulties for this kind of song as they seem a bit of an overkill but it works out somehow
All diffs are made very well and even the hardest difficulty with all the jumps, which btw seem kinda random, plays fine as the patterns play and flow naturally
Anyways, hope this was helpful to you, sorry if I might have missed anything!
Good luck~
thanks!
kakifly
Hi

general

-add to tags 'yurica' & 'ユリカ' because thats another name hanatan goes by

smug's insane

-00:12:473 (2,3,1) - could space these better
-00:17:807 (1) - try to turn this slider the other way, so the flow from the next & prev note are better, since the slider points the opposite way of the flow http://puu.sh/hmkNr/7970f6ceb3.jpg
-00:27:307 (2) - i found ctrl + g to play better , mainly because the previous slider would be pointing right towards the head then, the current way breaks the flow and is uncomfortable
-00:37:307 (2,3) - i would stack these, so the rhythm is easier to read
-00:54:807 (1) - same as 00:27:307 (2) -
-01:00:140 (2) - i'd suggest this rhythm to make the vocal clickable, it feels better than covering the beat. Usually i wouldnt be a vocal mapper but it just feels right here http://puu.sh/hmkYk/c49717bf31.jpg
-01:08:140 (2,3) - same ^

insane

-i didnt find the normal hitnormal to be very fitting for this song..
-00:23:473 (5,6) - ctrl + g the placement of these notes so you dont break the flow
-00:35:807 (5,6) - rhythm here is very awkward since 6 feels like a filler note that has no real emphasis, i suggest starting 6 on the white tick so it has more of an impact, something like this? http://puu.sh/hmlf2/2e73c721ac.jpg
-00:39:973 (2,3) - same as 00:23:473 (5,6) -
-00:46:307 (5) - ctrl + g feels better for me
-IMO some flow in this diff can be improved to flow smoother, you can see this from the follow points, if they are placed in a circle, for example this part http://puu.sh/hmlqg/af45e596ab.jpg can be changed to this http://puu.sh/hmlr0/d6c5a7ec2f.jpg where theres no zig zag turns that break the flow in an emphasized part

rakuen's hard

-00:17:807 (3,4) - for here i think its better to just follow the instruments, like this http://puu.sh/hmlxE/a0b3fb7cde.jpg so it doesnt feel like unnecessary beats are played
-00:26:807 (1,2) - rhythm feels weird since (2) doesnt start on the domiant beat, if you make both 1 &2 a 2/3 slider i think it plays better

pishi's normal

-00:35:307 (2) - works better as a 1/3 repeat slider imo cause of the beats in the music
-n i c e

easy

-00:44:307 (6) - stack on 00:42:307 (4) - please its sososo much cleaner that way


hanatan is best. good luck
pishifat
did thing
kind of
hard to explain just take it

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Kurokami
Yo. o/

[Rain]

01:16:807 (1,2,3) - This jumps feels a bit forced at (1,2). Can you make it smaller there a bit?
[]

A bit "hard" map but looks fine and really fun to play. Call me back~
Vhy

Kurokami wrote:

Yo. o/ \o

[Rain]

01:16:807 (1,2,3) - This jumps feels a bit forced at (1,2). Can you make it smaller there a bit? mmh okay, just a bit
[]

A bit "hard" map but looks fine and really fun to play. Call me back~
@Moo-Chan please make sure you update this time. thanks owo

(*^_^*)ゞ
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Topic Starter
Moo-Chan
kakifly

kakifly wrote:

Hi

general

-add to tags 'yurica' & 'ユリカ' because thats another name hanatan goes by ok


insane

-i didnt find the normal hitnormal to be very fitting for this song.. ;-;
-00:23:473 (5,6) - ctrl + g the placement of these notes so you dont break the flow gonna keep how it is
-00:35:807 (5,6) - rhythm here is very awkward since 6 feels like a filler note that has no real emphasis, i suggest starting 6 on the white tick so it has more of an impact, something like this? http://puu.sh/hmlf2/2e73c721ac.jpg fixed
-00:39:973 (2,3) - same as 00:23:473 (5,6) - gonna keep. feels awkward like that
-00:46:307 (5) - ctrl + g feels better for me gonna keep again >.<
-IMO some flow in this diff can be improved to flow smoother, you can see this from the follow points, if they are placed in a circle, for example this part http://puu.sh/hmlqg/af45e596ab.jpg can be changed to this http://puu.sh/hmlr0/d6c5a7ec2f.jpg where theres no zig zag turns that break the flow in an emphasized part ok

easy

-00:44:307 (6) - stack on 00:42:307 (4) - please its sososo much cleaner that way oki


hanatan is best. good luck
thanks :3
Kurokami
Here ya go~

Apple'd~
Topic Starter
Moo-Chan
niceeee
Vhy

Kurokami wrote:

Here ya go~

Apple'd~
yay thankiesss... love ya <3
Pappy
General
  1. Add nekobolo to tags, he is producer/composer of the song.
Insane
  1. Tbh normal-hitwhistle is barely hearable. D: At first sight I tought that this map doesn't have hitsounds /me runs
  2. 00:31:807 (4) - Looks much better when you remove this point.
  3. 00:16:473 (7,8,1) - Jump between (8) and (1) should be bigger than between (7) and (8) because (1) is strong beat.
  4. 00:24:473 (4,5,1) - Similar problem ;w;
  5. 00:48:807 (1) - Fix it like this:
  6. 00:53:807 (1) - Remove NC :o
  7. 00:54:807 - 00:55:307 - Idk if these decimal SV changes are rankable... D: Anyway you should remove NC from 00:55:307 (1,1) - because these SV changes are not noticeable in gameplay so NC is not needed.
  8. *minor* 01:04:306 (5) - Looks better if:
  9. 01:26:807 (1,2,3,4,1) - This flow is little of comparing to other patterns, consider do something like this:
  10. HP 7->6 pls >w<
Hard
  1. 00:46:973 (1,2,3) - This rhytm is very hard to catch D: Maybe try this:
  2. Insane have AR 8,5; Normal 5 and here is 8, maybe try 7,5 or 7,2? D: Still playable and spread will be better.
Normal
  1. 00:56:807 (1) - This may look better:
  2. As always, nothing to point, great job pishi! :D
Easy
  1. 00:54:807 (1,1) - Remove NCs, not needed and confusing for newbies. ;w;
  2. 01:27:807 (2) - Remove clap for tail? D:
Awesome mapset! :D
Love Hanatan <3
pishifat
flowz tho
Topic Starter
Moo-Chan
pappy

Pappy wrote:

General
  1. Add nekobolo to tags, he is producer/composer of the song. oki
Insane
  1. Tbh normal-hitwhistle is barely hearable. D: At first sight I tought that this map doesn't have hitsounds /me runs ima keep it ;w;
  2. 00:31:807 (4) - Looks much better when you remove this point. wow
  3. 00:16:473 (7,8,1) - Jump between (8) and (1) should be bigger than between (7) and (8) because (1) is strong beat. fixed
  4. 00:24:473 (4,5,1) - Similar problem ;w; ^
  5. 00:48:807 (1) - Fix it like this: its fine how it is
  6. 00:53:807 (1) - Remove NC :o k
  7. 00:54:807 - 00:55:307 - Idk if these decimal SV changes are rankable... D: Anyway you should remove NC from 00:55:307 (1,1) - because these SV changes are not noticeable in gameplay so NC is not needed. didnt take the nc change, and pishi said the SV is rankable
  8. *minor* 01:04:306 (5) - Looks better if: fixed
  9. 01:26:807 (1,2,3,4,1) - This flow is little of comparing to other patterns, consider do something like this: fixed this before looking at your mod
  10. HP 7->6 pls >w< no >.<
Easy
  1. 00:54:807 (1,1) - Remove NCs, not needed and confusing for newbies. ;w; i guesssssss x.x
  2. 01:27:807 (2) - Remove clap for tail? D: sure
Awesome mapset! :D
Love Hanatan <3

thank youuu
pishifat
Topic Starter
Moo-Chan

pishifat wrote:

People complained about his rhythm
ragingkrane
I didn't make this diff for this set in particular but you can take it if you want.

Extra
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