Hanatan - Jishou Mushoku [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

Yumeno Himiko

Elite Storyboarder

Joined August 2012

Yumeno Himiko 2015-03-07T02:32:22+00:00

Hello Vhy~ From my queue~

QvQ I thought it was full ver.

[Vhy's Rain]
The DS is nearly all the same throughout this diff, I mean, the patterns are similar and you don't emphasize the song's strong parts and slow parts. Most jumps are placed due to the Clap hitsound, but they look all the same.

To be specific:
00:08:807 - 00:24:640 : Though the instruments are the same as the kiai part, this part is at the begining of the song and it's weaker than the kiai part. Condiser cut down the DS a bit and reduce some jumps here.

00:24:807 - 00:55:807 : Some jumps are unnecessary here. e.g.: 00:27:807 (4,5) - This jump doesn't fit the song and ruins the flow.

00:13:307 (2,3,4) - Not looking so good, try this pattern, it still keep the jump and the flow will be better.

SPOILER

00:18:307 (6,7) - This jump feels really bad here, as it's in the weak part of the song.
00:39:807 (5) - NC
00:36:807 (1) - Move a bit left to make the jump more clear (x = 24)
01:27:807 (5) - This slider should be convert into 4 circles here w

Anyway, it's a good map owo~ But I think it can be better! The song is really nice for a ctb diff

Good luck on ranking lol

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-03-09T00:46:46+00:00

tfw you forget to sub to the thread

Ringating

717 posts

Joined August 2013

Ringating 2015-03-09T00:48:47+00:00

noticed a thing on smug's extra

01:00:140 (2) - and 01:16:140 (2) - both skip over a very distinct sound on the white tick and that is apparently a very bad thing to do in 1/3

log

17:38 - 『Ringating』: now i dont know mapping
17:38 - 『Ringating』: but something on this seems wrong
17:39 - 『Ringating』: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/651219
17:39 - 『Ringating』: this
17:39 - pishizour.: on that map
17:39 - pishizour.: it's 1/3
17:39 - 『Ringating』: no
17:39 - pishizour.: which is why feels wierd
17:39 - 『Ringating』: specifically
17:39 - 『Ringating』: 01:16:140 (2) -
17:39 - 『Ringating』: on extra
17:39 - 『Ringating』: like
17:39 - pishizour.: investigate
17:39 - 『Ringating』: slider is broke
17:39 - 『Ringating』: should be like half the length that it is
17:39 - 『Ringating』: or have something in it's middle
17:39 - 『Ringating』: cause it misses a whole syllable
17:39 - 『Ringating』: and feels very wrong
17:42 - pishizour.: same thing as 01:00:140 (2) -
17:43 - pishizour.: it's like the wrost thing you can do on 1/3
17:43 - pishizour.: skip over white tick
17:43 - pishizour.: cuz easy to lose sense of rhythm with 1/3

Fizz

275 posts

Joined September 2013

Fizz 2015-03-09T07:18:30+00:00

as for the above

I'm trying a different rhythm there by following the bass line
The bass does this little fill kinda thingy that leads into its octave change
Besides it's the same rhythm as 01:03:807 (1,2,3) - or 01:19:807 (1) -
Turn down the sample volume and have a listen for yourself

I'd like to keep this rhythm so no change for now

guineaQ

1,588 posts

Joined December 2013

guineaQ 2015-03-09T07:35:40+00:00

and @Moo-Chan your insane

00:44:307 (5) - remove whistle at slider body -_-
01:10:807 (1) - same here
01:22:307 (5) - ^

Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Moo-Chan 2015-03-09T12:01:33+00:00

guineaQ wrote:
and @Moo-Chan your insane

00:44:307 (5) - remove whistle at slider body -_-
01:10:807 (1) - same here
01:22:307 (5) - ^

oh shit, didnt even notice those. thanks guinea bby

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2015-03-10T09:35:08+00:00

from m4m

Rain

00:10:307 (6) - if you follow drum so you can add whistle S:C30 here but if you want to hitsound violin you can swap the hitsound 00:10:140 (5,6) -
00:09:307 - personally i feel sometimes i cant hear the whistle hitsound here, how about increase to 80%?
00:12:140 - 00:12:307 - swap the whistle please, the violin sounds at whitetick
00:13:807 (3) - 2 grid right to make the spacing 00:13:307 (2,3,4) - more consistent?
00:18:807 (1) - i feel the flow is too plain if use straight slider only, how about move tail to x:72 and 00:19:307 (2) - x:192?
00:18:307 (6,7) - same as 00:10:307 (6,7) -
00:22:140 - 00:22:307 - swap the whistle, it fits better on whitetick because the drum music
00:23:473 (5,6) - swap the whistle, better to emphasize the first of the snare sound here because it sounds earlier than (6)
00:23:973 (8,9,10,11,12) - somehow i feel i have to press my dash (terus) for catch them, well actually i prefer to move them all 2 or 3 grid left, they feel better and easier to catch imo
00:27:807 (4,5) - somehow feel a little bit plain with straight slider here, give a little bit movement? http://puu.sh/gugIJ.jpg
00:31:807 (4,5) - same as above http://puu.sh/gugQK.jpg
00:36:807 (1) - forgot whistle?
00:38:307 (5) - imo the HDash doesnt fit here because the vocal is soft and the music is relax, better remove HDash or at least make the HDash easier here
00:39:307 (4) - i guess you forgot add whistle here? just like 00:37:807 (4) -
00:40:807 (1) - im sure you forgot finish to emphasize the cymbal here
00:47:807 (3) - it's weird to see this slider has straight flow whenever previous sliders are really horizontal (have much movement), i'd say move this tail to x:112
00:51:807 (4) - somehow i feel the movement a little bit weird to this slider, well i prefer move the tail to x:128 but that's just my taste
00:52:307 - it has clearly drum music so better whistle S:C30 here, empty qq
01:00:807 (1) - x:312 to make HDash on this head
01:02:807 (1) - make HDash on this head so it caught better to emphasize stanza, move 01:02:307 (7) - 's tail x:136 makes better flow either
01:11:806 (5) - 2 times testplay and 2 times i missed on this part lol, according that maybe you can make the spacing a little bit smaller
01:24:307 (6,7,1) - the flow works not really well here imo because the straight slider, i'd say move the tail x:152 to make it better
01:28:640 - kiai starts on 01:28:807 - instead, on 640 it doesnt have any music so looking it starts on that time is weird imo orz

good luck o/

guineaQ

1,588 posts

Joined December 2013

guineaQ 2015-03-14T15:40:00+00:00

mfw normal has more objects than advanced wwwwwwwwwwwww

Maeglwn

Maeglwn 2015-03-15T06:44:10+00:00

hi

[General]

turn off widescreen support in all diffs that have it on, there's no storyboard for it to matter (at least from what I can see)
01:28:640 - I really don't think this kiai is necessary. especially since it's the last note of the song, you really don't need a kiai for it. imo you should remove it

[Smug's Extra]

01:26:807 (1) - unsnapped
00:09:307 (2,3,1) - would heavily consider making these not overlap and just blanket each other instead.
00:28:307 (4,5,6) - seems like really really high ds motions for such a small sound. why not make these smaller jumps and then one big jump up to the next slider instead?
00:39:807 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - same. except maybe mostly with the super increase on the second triangle. goes from 2.3 to 3.7 DS. that's.. uh, a bit much.
00:46:307 (2) - you should put a curve in this slider or something to reference the change in voice at least. you're missing a pretty major beat by using this slider so at least reference it
01:11:807 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - holy crap dude. relax on the DS. lol that's.. a whole lot. this is a REALLY slow song, so.. 4.5 jumps? really? it seems just a tad excessive.
01:16:140 (2) - same as with 46 seconds. reference the change in voice

[Insane]

00:10:807 (1,2) - blanket pls
00:16:307 (6,7) - ctrl g for awesome flow
00:27:807 (5) - hitburst touches the hp bar, unrankable, pull it down a bit
00:35:307 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/gATXB/a0ed59cb44.jpg try that instead, much better flow
00:41:473 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/gAU14/b715c5fae6.jpg try this too
00:42:807 (1,2,3) - the little ds increases out of nowhere are killing me try and maintain a DS that flows well with the map, every little DS increase kills the flow
00:47:473 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/gAUeV/40c5ee4d5b.jpg spacing fix
00:50:807 (1,2,3) - again here like it's not quite a jump but it's just.. bleh, icky.
00:53:807 (1,2,1) -
00:55:307 (1,1) - try and blanket these if possible
01:01:307 (2,3,4) - try to make a triangle here instead, would really help the structure and would look pretty and stuff
01:13:807 (3,4,5) - ds stuff
01:17:307 (2,3,4) - try something like this instead: http://puu.sh/gAUzI/26b4a33f7b.jpg
01:27:307 (2,3,4) - man I complain a lot

PLEASE CHECK YOUR DSESESERASDSE

[Hard]

wow this map is cool haha
these hitsounds are so awesome why aren't all of the diffs like this
00:29:307 (3,4) - seems kinda awkward to randomly have a slider underneath the end when you didn't do this with the last time o.O I'd personally pull it out from under the end of it, it doesn't really make a ton of sense with the rest of the map
00:37:640 (3,4) - stacks like this are REALLY hard to read. do you think you could pull 2 out so its not immediately stacked on top of 3 and 4, or just make it so 2 isn't a part of the stack of 3 and 4? would make this a lot more readable
00:45:807 (3) - this slider is messing with my head man idk if I like it or not
00:53:807 (3,4) - same thing as before. stuff like tihs really kills flow, I don't like it that much when its not used as a style technique it's only really useful for stuff like pauses where a lack of flow would make sense. at least imo. idk. up to you.
00:55:307 (2,3) - see here it's fine. I really like it here cause of the pause and the hitsound, so beautiful
00:56:807 (1) - this really kinda deserves an actual finish hitsound instead of the one it has maybe just me, but I really want the crash-y sound instead of this, this sound doesn't sound very finishy for this part.
01:03:807 (3) - really loving the red tick on this and how it incorporates the voice ;D

you sir, are one hell of a mapper

[Advanced]

00:11:640 (3) - YO YO YO HOLD UP WHAT THE HELL IS THIS NONONONONONONO make ds the same, this is WAY too hard for an advanced or a normal or whatever the hell this is
00:15:640 (3) - and here
00:25:807 (3) - and here
00:29:307 (2,3) - annnnd here
01:00:307 (4) - and here
01:04:306 (4) - and here
01:11:307 (2,1) - and here, this one is a little bit less serious, but this still is bad enough
the main reason why I'm pointing this out is that even though it's an advanced, an advanced is still basically considered a "beginner-ish" diff and needs to follow the rules of DS to the point no matter what. everything that has super insane jumps from like.. 1.3 to 2 DS is too much for an advanced, even too much for a hard sometimes. you NEED to change these, I just got done having to change .1 ratios off of an advanced map so I could get it qualified, these are definitely not rankable, I'm sorry I really like how they look, but its not rankable as an advanced difficulty.

there really isn't much else wrong with the diff aside from that, so just fix those

think I'm gonna stop there, the normal and the easy look pretty good, so you'll be okay

gl

Vhy

678 posts

Joined November 2012

Vhy 2015-03-15T12:21:11+00:00

examination wrote:
Hello Vhy~ From my queue~

QvQ I thought it was full ver.

[Vhy's Rain]
The DS is nearly all the same throughout this diff, I mean, the patterns are similar and you don't emphasize the song's strong parts and slow parts. Most jumps are placed due to the Clap hitsound, but they look all the same.

To be specific:
00:08:807 - 00:24:640 : Though the instruments are the same as the kiai part, this part is at the begining of the song and it's weaker than the kiai part. Condiser cut down the DS a bit and reduce some jumps here. they're already. the general spacing here is lower than the kiai if you compare them more

00:24:807 - 00:55:807 : Some jumps are unnecessary here. e.g.: 00:27:807 (4,5) - This jump doesn't fit the song and ruins the flow. couldn't disagree more. changed most of them

00:13:307 (2,3,4) - Not looking so good, try this pattern, it still keep the jump and the flow will be better. changed on my own
SPOILER
00:18:307 (6,7) - This jump feels really bad here, as it's in the weak part of the song. its not even a jump. they're fine as it is.
00:39:807 (5) - NC no need to add here. i keep the constant each 4/1 for NC stuff
00:36:807 (1) - Move a bit left to make the jump more clear (x = 24) keeping the current position. rotating the slider at 00:36:307 (5) instead
01:27:807 (5) - This slider should be convert into 4 circles here w you may be right. but it will ruin the flow if it 4 circles since i want a circular flow with the head and tail in the same position

Anyway, it's a good map owo~ But I think it can be better! The song is really nice for a ctb diff
Good luck on ranking lol

Xinely wrote:
from m4m

Rain
00:10:307 (6) - if you follow drum so you can add whistle S:C30 here but if you want to hitsound violin you can swap the hitsound 00:10:140 (5,6) -
00:09:307 - personally i feel sometimes i cant hear the whistle hitsound here, how about increase to 80%? mmmh nope. i can hear it clearly
00:12:140 - 00:12:307 - swap the whistle please, the violin sounds at whitetick honestly my whistle pattern... mmmh well semua hitsound sih, kecuali finish ofc, i make them all constant throughout the song. which means they're not depend on the song but the stanza. i hope you understand. this apply to other hitsound mod that im not reply x.x
00:13:807 (3) - 2 grid right to make the spacing 00:13:307 (2,3,4) - more consistent? did fix myself, and ofc make their spacing the same
00:18:807 (1) - i feel the flow is too plain if use straight slider only, how about move tail to x:72 and 00:19:307 (2) - x:192? sedemikian rupa
00:18:307 (6,7) - same as 00:10:307 (6,7) -
00:22:140 - 00:22:307 - swap the whistle, it fits better on whitetick because the drum music
00:23:473 (5,6) - swap the whistle, better to emphasize the first of the snare sound here because it sounds earlier than (6)
00:23:973 (8,9,10,11,12) - somehow i feel i have to press my dash (terus) for catch them, well actually i prefer to move them all 2 or 3 grid left, they feel better and easier to catch imo yep. dstu point nya. justru full dash lebih gampang dibaca soal nya itu pattern dari ujung kiri ke kanan trus balik + Hyper.
00:27:807 (4,5) - somehow feel a little bit plain with straight slider here, give a little bit movement? http://puu.sh/gugIJ.jpg (4) ke kiri (5) ke kanan
00:31:807 (4,5) - same as above http://puu.sh/gugQK.jpg (4) ke kanan (5) ke kiri :p
00:36:807 (1) - forgot whistle?
00:38:307 (5) - imo the HDash doesnt fit here because the vocal is soft and the music is relax, better remove HDash or at least make the HDash easier here ok
00:39:307 (4) - i guess you forgot add whistle here? just like 00:37:807 (4) - ada kok itu :3
00:40:807 (1) - im sure you forgot finish to emphasize the cymbal here ew
00:47:807 (3) - it's weird to see this slider has straight flow whenever previous sliders are really horizontal (have much movement), i'd say move this tail to x:112 k
00:51:807 (4) - somehow i feel the movement a little bit weird to this slider, well i prefer move the tail to x:128 but that's just my taste fixed this and make it more kawaii
00:52:307 - it has clearly drum music so better whistle S:C30 here, empty qq agreed this one
01:00:807 (1) - x:312 to make HDash on this head k Hyper added
01:02:807 (1) - make HDash on this head so it caught better to emphasize stanza, move 01:02:307 (7) - 's tail x:136 makes better flow either k
01:11:806 (5) - 2 times testplay and 2 times i missed on this part lol, according that maybe you can make the spacing a little bit smaller ew.. itu ada Hyper lho. kecilin spacing tar jadi timed jump x.x
01:24:307 (6,7,1) - the flow works not really well here imo because the straight slider, i'd say move the tail x:152 to make it better k
01:28:640 - kiai starts on 01:28:807 - instead, on 640 it doesnt have any music so looking it starts on that time is weird imo orz oh, itu kiai time ak copas dari diff sebelah orz

good luck o/

thankies <3

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guineaQ

1,588 posts

Joined December 2013

guineaQ 2015-03-15T15:14:34+00:00

Maeglwn wrote:

hi

[General]
turn off widescreen support in all diffs that have it on, there's no storyboard for it to matter (at least from what I can see)
01:28:640 - I really don't think this kiai is necessary. especially since it's the last note of the song, you really don't need a kiai for it. imo you should remove it

[Advanced]
00:11:640 (3) - YO YO YO HOLD UP WHAT THE HELL IS THIS NONONONONONONO make ds the same, this is WAY too hard for an advanced or a normal or whatever the hell this is
00:15:640 (3) - and here
00:25:807 (3) - and here
00:29:307 (2,3) - annnnd here
01:00:307 (4) - and here
01:04:306 (4) - and here
01:11:307 (2,1) - and here, this one is a little bit less serious, but this still is bad enough
the main reason why I'm pointing this out is that even though it's an advanced, an advanced is still basically considered a "beginner-ish" diff and needs to follow the rules of DS to the point no matter what. everything that has super insane jumps from like.. 1.3 to 2 DS is too much for an advanced, even too much for a hard sometimes. you NEED to change these, I just got done having to change .1 ratios off of an advanced map so I could get it qualified, these are definitely not rankable, I'm sorry I really like how they look, but its not rankable as an advanced difficulty.

there really isn't much else wrong with the diff aside from that, so just fix those idk if you noticed but Normal has more hitobjects than Advanced LMAO, so I'll need to completely redo this anyways. I was trying to fill the difficulty gap between OLD normal and current hard, now I can use higher note density without having to use jumps to create artificial difficulty with new normal :>

think I'm gonna stop there, the normal and the easy look pretty good, so you'll be okay

gl

Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Moo-Chan 2015-03-15T20:31:44+00:00

maeg

Maeglwn wrote:

hi hi

[General]
turn off widescreen support in all diffs that have it on, there's no storyboard for it to matter (at least from what I can see) ok
01:28:640 - I really don't think this kiai is necessary. especially since it's the last note of the song, you really don't need a kiai for it. imo you should remove it nein

[Insane]
00:10:807 (1,2) - blanket pls ok
00:16:307 (6,7) - ctrl g for awesome flow ok
00:27:807 (5) - hitburst touches the hp bar, unrankable, pull it down a bit it actually doesnt hit the hp bar ! lookie https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2893655
00:35:307 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/gATXB/a0ed59cb44.jpg try that instead, much better flow its hard to see whats going on there, so ill move it a bit? idk, if you really need me to change this pm me ig
00:41:473 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/gAU14/b715c5fae6.jpg try this too fixed
00:42:807 (1,2,3) - the little ds increases out of nowhere are killing me try and maintain a DS that flows well with the map, every little DS increase kills the flow changed it i guess idk
00:47:473 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/gAUeV/40c5ee4d5b.jpg spacing fix ok
00:50:807 (1,2,3) - again here like it's not quite a jump but it's just.. bleh, icky. moved the two a bit
00:53:807 (1,2,1) -
00:55:307 (1,1) - try and blanket these if possible i wasnt intending to blanket these
01:01:307 (2,3,4) - try to make a triangle here instead, would really help the structure and would look pretty and stuff attempted to
01:13:807 (3,4,5) - ds stuff but why
01:17:307 (2,3,4) - try something like this instead: http://puu.sh/gAUzI/26b4a33f7b.jpg did something like it i guess
01:27:307 (2,3,4) - man I complain a lot lol

PLEASE CHECK YOUR DSESESERASDSE wot

thanks maeg bby

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-03-15T20:54:00+00:00

im a bad person forcing remap

Rakuen

1,654 posts

Joined March 2013

Rakuen 2015-03-16T07:37:18+00:00

Maeglwn wrote:

hi

[Hard]
wow this map is cool haha
these hitsounds are so awesome why aren't all of the diffs like this
00:29:307 (3,4) - seems kinda awkward to randomly have a slider underneath the end when you didn't do this with the last time o.O I'd personally pull it out from under the end of it, it doesn't really make a ton of sense with the rest of the map Fixed
00:37:640 (3,4) - stacks like this are REALLY hard to read. do you think you could pull 2 out so its not immediately stacked on top of 3 and 4, or just make it so 2 isn't a part of the stack of 3 and 4? would make this a lot more readable Fixed
00:45:807 (3) - this slider is messing with my head man idk if I like it or not Fixed
00:53:807 (3,4) - same thing as before. stuff like tihs really kills flow, I don't like it that much when its not used as a style technique it's only really useful for stuff like pauses where a lack of flow would make sense. at least imo. idk. up to you. Fixed
00:55:307 (2,3) - see here it's fine. I really like it here cause of the pause and the hitsound, so beautiful <3
00:56:807 (1) - this really kinda deserves an actual finish hitsound instead of the one it has maybe just me, but I really want the crash-y sound instead of this, this sound doesn't sound very finishy for this part. Prefer to keep this >p<
01:03:807 (3) - really loving the red tick on this and how it incorporates the voice ;D Wee~ >_<

you sir, are one hell of a mapper Thanks

Thanks for the mods!

Diff update: http://puu.sh/gCrk3/59a080a10e.osu

Please help me add soft-hitclap11 , seems missing QAQ: http://puu.sh/gCqav/0b5682cbb9.wav

Fizz

275 posts

Joined September 2013

Fizz 2015-03-16T09:46:01+00:00

Maeglwn wrote:
[Smug's Extra]
01:26:807 (1) - unsnapped This has happened to me before but it's snapped fine on my end, some kind of bug
00:09:307 (2,3,1) - would heavily consider making these not overlap and just blanket each other instead. I like the feel of returning to roughly the same spot
00:28:307 (4,5,6) - seems like really really high ds motions for such a small sound. why not make these smaller jumps and then one big jump up to the next slider instead? done
00:39:807 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - same. except maybe mostly with the super increase on the second triangle. goes from 2.3 to 3.7 DS. that's.. uh, a bit much. Tried to make it more of a progressive DS increase
00:46:307 (2) - you should put a curve in this slider or something to reference the change in voice at least. you're missing a pretty major beat by using this slider so at least reference it I can only guess you mean 01:00:140 (2) - , refer to reasoning below
01:11:807 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - holy crap dude. relax on the DS. lol that's.. a whole lot. this is a REALLY slow song, so.. 4.5 jumps? really? it seems just a tad excessive. lowered a bit, although the song isn't THAT slow due to it being 1/3 based
01:16:140 (2) - same as with 46 seconds. reference the change in voice since I'm purposely mapping bass instead of her voice I don't quite think it makes sense to reference the voice change, especially since I skip over the beat that would emphasise that change

thanks for mod~

updoot

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GAMI

582 posts

Joined February 2014

GAMI 2015-03-16T11:55:45+00:00

M4M (as on your queue)

Vhy's Rain

00:19:640 (3) - dimajuhin sedikit kalo mau ke x:456
00:19:307 (2) - mundurin sedikit kalo mau ke x:56
00:26:140 (4) - keknya cocok deh dikasih red jump (kalo mau sih) , note ditaro di x:112
00:37:807 (4) - mundurin ke x:488 & 00:37:640 (3) - ditaro ke x:232 jika ngikutin suggest 00:37:807 (4) -
00:38:307 (5) - sama kalo ngikutin suggest ^ , mundurin ke x:24
00:38:807 (1,2,3) - x:104 , x:232 , x:360 (kalo nge-ikutin diatas)
00:44:307 (6) - mundurin ke x:160
00:57:807 (3) - mundurin ke x:304
01:06:139 (4) - majuhin ke x:208
01:07:306 (3) - ngga tau kenapa ini slider bagusnya agak dinaikin SVnya ngikutin vocalnya tapi terserah lu sih...
01:15:807 (4) - sama ke suggest diatas
01:16:807 (1) - x:384 & 01:17:140 (2) - x:472
01:20:140 (5) - bagusnya mundurin ke x:240
01:26:307 (6,7,8) - x:88 , x:200 , x:312

Asphyxia

osu! Alumni

1,986 posts

Joined June 2012

Asphyxia 2015-03-21T14:04:58+00:00

I owe you stuff

[Smug's Extra]

01:00:140 (2) - You seem to follow the vocals on your chorus, correct if I am wrong here, and because of that, this feels extremely weird. A rhythm like this would definitely fit the map better.
Example
01:16:140 (2) - Same here, it's just way off that it plays really weird.
Example
Cool map, though I feel like the spacing was slightly overdone for such song, but that's just my opinion. I do feel that 01:11:807 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - should be reduced spacing-wise, at least a bit. It's not exactly the peak part of the song, yet the spacing would indicate that it could be.

[Insane]

00:10:307 (5) - Moving this a bit more up would assure a better flow. x:286 y:66?
00:11:807 (3) - I think this looks quite unappealing, what I would do is either
Example 1
OR
Example 2
The second slider should be a direct copy of 00:11:307 (2) - , but the current way it was placed looked just sloppy, but I guess that's matter of taste.
00:13:807 (4,7) - Blanket could and should use a little improvement.
00:16:140 (5,6,7,8,1) - I feel like this could be a square so the map would have more shapes and all, but it's fine as it is too. Just my taste.
00:22:807 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I know that pattern, but the way it's done looks a bit ''chubby''? It should have more straight lines, since it's a big triangle pattern after all. Try this?
Example
00:24:307 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern looks a bit messy with all the overlaps. If anything, I feel like you could improve the patterns visual-side like this.
Example
00:34:307 (5) - It feels really weird now because it half blankets 00:33:807 (3) - , but it's not doing it correctly. It might be intentional, but I am sure it'd look cool if you would blanket it with 00:33:807 (3) -
00:57:807 (3,5) - Blanket
01:09:807 (4,1) - ^
The map itself is nicely done, could use a bit of improvements here and there but I hope covered everything. If some of those blankets are intentionally not supposed to be ones, I'd suggest you to re-arrange the placement a little so they would look more that they're NOT supposed to be blankets.

guineaQ's Advanced is cool, though I wouldn't personally use such jumps. Advanced is more like a Normal, just with more of a complex rhythm and because of that, I do think it should have a distance snap that wouldn't break like that, but I guess that's up to you.

[pishi's Normal]

00:12:807 (1,2) - Blanket please :c
00:17:807 (2,1) - ^

[Easy]

I'd recommend double-checking the blankets, some, if not many seemed kind of off.
I personally don't get the TR3 here, sure it's nice that it's consistent, but your map literally uses just plain 1/1 and not a single 1/3, which is obvious why. That being said, TR1 would be much better.
00:26:807 (3) - I'd suggest rotating this slider a bit, and fixing the blanket. That way the transition from 00:25:807 (2) - would be better.
Cool yoyo

That's pretty much everything from my side, best of luck~

Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Moo-Chan 2015-03-21T23:33:20+00:00

assfixia

Asphyxia wrote:
I owe you stuff

[Insane]
00:10:307 (5) - Moving this a bit more up would assure a better flow. x:286 y:66? ok
00:11:807 (3) - I think this looks quite unappealing, what I would do is either ok
The second slider should be a direct copy of 00:11:307 (2) - , but the current way it was placed looked just sloppy, but I guess that's matter of taste.
00:13:807 (4,7) - Blanket could and should use a little improvement. ok
00:16:140 (5,6,7,8,1) - I feel like this could be a square so the map would have more shapes and all, but it's fine as it is too. Just my taste. ima keep it how it is ;;
00:22:807 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I know that pattern, but the way it's done looks a bit ''chubby''? It should have more straight lines, since it's a big triangle pattern after all. Try this? got it boss
00:24:307 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern looks a bit messy with all the overlaps. If anything, I feel like you could improve the patterns visual-side like this. mmk
00:34:307 (5) - It feels really weird now because it half blankets 00:33:807 (3) - , but it's not doing it correctly. It might be intentional, but I am sure it'd look cool if you would blanket it with 00:33:807 (3) - fixued
00:57:807 (3,5) - Blanket k
01:09:807 (4,1) - ^ ^
The map itself is nicely done, could use a bit of improvements here and there but I hope covered everything. If some of those blankets are intentionally not supposed to be ones, I'd suggest you to re-arrange the placement a little so they would look more that they're NOT supposed to be blankets. alrighty and yeah, i meant to blanket them all
That's pretty much everything from my side, best of luck~

♥ and i took everything for the easy

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-03-21T23:39:05+00:00

moo can you fix my blankets lol

Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Moo-Chan 2015-03-22T03:56:47+00:00

pishifat wrote:
moo can you fix my blankets lol

~~on it bbq~~

updated

Vhy

678 posts

Joined November 2012

Vhy 2015-03-22T10:04:50+00:00

GAMI wrote:
M4M (as on your queue)

Vhy's Rain

00:19:640 (3) - dimajuhin sedikit kalo mau ke x:456 ew berasa timed jump tar. x:400 de
00:19:307 (2) - mundurin sedikit kalo mau ke x:56 ngga de. abis apply atas ini object kalo di lebihin kiri tar ngancurin spacing
00:26:140 (4) - keknya cocok deh dikasih red jump (kalo mau sih) , note ditaro di x:112 x:184 for a jump instead
00:37:807 (4) - mundurin ke x:488 & 00:37:640 (3) - ditaro ke x:232 jika ngikutin suggest 00:37:807 (4) - k
00:38:307 (5) - sama kalo ngikutin suggest ^ , mundurin ke x:24 ew keep yg ini
00:38:807 (1,2,3) - x:104 , x:232 , x:360 (kalo nge-ikutin diatas) knp ngga d jadiin 1 aja ama atas lol. btw keep mine
00:44:307 (6) - mundurin ke x:160 x:184 instead
00:57:807 (3) - mundurin ke x:304 k
01:06:139 (4) - majuhin ke x:208 keep yg ini
01:07:306 (3) - ngga tau kenapa ini slider bagusnya agak dinaikin SVnya ngikutin vocalnya tapi terserah lu sih... mmh sama aja sih. di vocal ngga ada unik2 nya jd mending d bkin regular aja SV nya
01:15:807 (4) - sama ke suggest diatas ^
01:16:807 (1) - x:384 & 01:17:140 (2) - x:472 moved (2) only
01:20:140 (5) - bagusnya mundurin ke x:240 x:280
01:26:307 (6,7,8) - x:88 , x:200 , x:312 no sorry. style ku dari map sebelah ini

thanks for the mod

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riffy

osu! Alumni

8,060 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2015-03-26T15:04:53+00:00

Yo, as requested by you-probably-already-know-who.

[General]

I suggest using a darker-green/brown combo colour instead of the bright yellow one. Let me know what you think

[Easy]

The difference between x1,05 and x1,08 multipliers is nearly unnoticeable, why don't you just stick to x1,05?
00:15:807 (5,1) - this kind of stack isn't really readable for beginners. (1) appears too suddenly and some of newbies will be stressed by this.
01:11:807 (2) - try to make the beginning of kiai clickable, it should emphasize the best part of the song, after all. Example
Note: soince we've changed the one above, we should make 01:14:807 - this downbeat clickable as well. Just replace 01:14:307 (3) - with two circles or something like that and we'll be fine. Same with 01:16:807.

I'm not a fan of SV changes in the easier diffs and the fact that you have 4 different SV multiplier values makes me quite opset. Apart from that, it's a lovely diff.

[pishi's Normal]

Try todrop your OD to 3 or something like that. The rhythm you use is quit euncommon and may trouble players of that level.

Impressive.

[Rakuen's Hard]

Try Slider tick rate 3 as it makes much more sense with the music. Even Normal has STR 3, so, why don't you follow pishi's exaple?
00:10:807 (1,2) - the curves at these sliders make no sense with the music and create an unnatural change of the flow.
Note: 00:29:807 (4,5) - 00:53:807 (3,4) - 01:26:807 (1,2) - same here. I find it unpleasant to play.
00:32:140 (4,5,1,2) - pleas unstack, as the gap between 00:32:306 (5,1) - feels pretty confusing while playing and makes players feel awkward.

Looks okay. I just really disagree with the sliders.

[Insane]

00:37:307 (2,3,4) - the gap between (2) and (3) might be easily misread as 2/3. There is nothing worth stressing at these beats, so jump feels random. Same happens a few more times, watch out.
00:44:307 (5) - minor - this gets overlapped with the score-meter. Not a serious problem, but I'd fix this.
00:52:807 (1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1) - be careful with that, too many NCs give an unnatural boost to players' HP and break the balance.

It looks like a nice diff but a few jumps feel out of place/exaggerated.

[Smug's Extra]
If we take alook a look at the Insane and its jumps, this diff feel more like a second Insane. Why not rename it?

In case you'll keep it as an Extra, set HP to 8.

Everything's okay. o/

Not much to say, you guys did well on this set.

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Best of luck!

Fizz

275 posts

Joined September 2013

Fizz 2015-03-27T03:27:30+00:00

Asphyxia wrote:
I owe you stuff

[Smug's Extra]
01:00:140 (2) - You seem to follow the vocals on your chorus, correct if I am wrong here, and because of that, this feels extremely weird. A rhythm like this would definitely fit the map better.
01:16:140 (2) - Same here, it's just way off that it plays really weird. in my weird opinion, at the time around these rhythms, the vocals become a little weaker since their rhythm becomes a bit ambiguous, and it's not held at the end. That, and I feel the bass is a strong enough part to map it. Also I don't want this diff to be just another insane, I kind of wanted it to be more "niche", if that makes sense.
Cool map, though I feel like the spacing was slightly overdone for such song, but that's just my opinion. I do feel that 01:11:807 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - should be reduced spacing-wise, at least a bit. It's not exactly the peak part of the song, yet the spacing would indicate that it could be. Something needs to set it apart from the insane ;w;

-Bakari- wrote:
Yo, as requested by you-probably-already-know-who.

[Smug's Extra]
If we take alook a look at the Insane and its jumps, this diff feel more like a second Insane. Why not rename it? It was originally named Insane until we changed it I'll talk it over with Moo-chan
In case you'll keep it as an Extra, set HP to 8. Will keep it in mind!

No changes from my end. Thanks for the mods :3

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-03-27T03:34:23+00:00

moo you can do whatever you want with the od

ive done so much work on this diff wow

Meyrink

728 posts

Joined February 2014

Meyrink 2015-03-27T21:46:45+00:00

Hi ! irc chat request ! here's a quick mod !

General

General is fine ! just try to reduce some extra empty space in the .wav files ! for example soft-hitnormal11 have 1200ms ! only 200ms is the sound and 1000ms is empty
01:28:640 - why kiai there ? .-.

Easy

it's not really save to use sv change in easy ! it's okay for sections like kiai ! all 1.15 ! but imo 01:27:807 - 1x is useless ! and why 00:55:307 - 1.08x i suggest to keep 1.05 ! but anyways in general it will be better if u make all the map with just one SV ! with 1.1x in green lines would be safer
Or you can use 1.15 SV ! then keep all green lines 1.0x !
00:14:807 (4,1) - i think u can improve that to avoid the overlap between the both sliders !
00:14:807 (4,5) - Spacing ! Snap to 1,0x
00:18:807 (4) - imo u can add some shape to this slider to give it more flow feeling ! it look kinda sharp for me ! or u can try something diffirent
00:21:807 (2,4) - can u stack those ? idk if ds can help with dat
00:22:807 (3,1) - small overlap sliders end
00:32:807 (1) - can u lower this a bit ? just modifer previous objet so u can lowe it , it may be touching hp bar
00:24:307 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing !
00:32:807 (1,2) - ^ , u'll need to improve also the next objet after fixing this one
00:36:807 (1,2) - ^ ;_;
01:09:807 (4,2) - ahhh NAZI o^o ! stack is slightly off

's Normal

00:08:807 (1,2) - DS so small here ! u mapped this with 1.2x in 1,0x sv ? why ds is 1x there ? '-'
00:14:807 (1,1) - doode why overlap like this ;_; ! it look bad in playing
01:01:807 (3,4) - u used 1.1x in kiai , why is this snaped to 1.25x ds

nicenice

Rakuen's Hard

00:28:640 (6,1) - Switch NC
00:32:640 (1,2) - same
00:53:473 (2) - a CTRL+G for this will work good
00:55:807 (3,1) - stack would be so good here ! u can do and then stack this 00:55:807 (3,1) - slider's end to 00:58:307 (5) - like this ?
01:08:640 (1) - Remove NC And NC this one 01:08:807 (2) - ! makes more sense
01:10:640 (1,2) - same for those 2
01:11:807 (1) - u can remove nc from this one since vocal still there

Insane

00:15:307 (2,5) - u can try blanket here
00:15:973 (4,5,6) - Imo Spacing is kinda awkward since there's no special thing in this beat 00:16:307 - that make sense for big spacing ! it sound like the previous beats ! wich need to be consistent ! u can try somthing like ! your what ever u think it fits http://puu.sh/gS9Sr/d675ebc849.jpg
00:28:473 (6,7,1) - i'm don't really like this linear flow ! i would change flow to somthing sircular maybe ! something more smouth in playing ! how about CTRL+H on 00:28:807 (1) - and move a bit to left ! like this
00:33:807 (3) - CTRL+G ?
00:35:473 (3,4) - ^ ?
00:44:640 (6,3) - minor stack , too nazi
01:07:473 (3,4) - this spacing is so big reduce it ! the music there is not strong , like these 01:12:140 (3,4,5,6) - are so good !

Such Song ! Lovely 1/3

Rakuen

1,654 posts

Joined March 2013

Rakuen 2015-03-28T08:32:45+00:00

-Bakari- wrote:
Yo, as requested by you-probably-already-know-who.

[Rakuen's Hard]
Try Slider tick rate 3 as it makes much more sense with the music. Even Normal has STR 3, so, why don't you follow pishi's exaple? I have a lot on vocal ;3
00:10:807 (1,2) - the curves at these sliders make no sense with the music and create an unnatural change of the flow. I dont get what sense QAQ. For the flow I think it's cool to play
Note: 00:29:807 (4,5) - 00:53:807 (3,4) - 01:26:807 (1,2) - same here. I find it unpleasant to play. Sorry, no change. When get used to it, it's very nice (don't stare at slider ball when u slide)[color]
00:32:140 (4,5,1,2) - pleas unstack, as the gap between 00:32:306 (5,1) - feels pretty confusing while playing and makes players feel awkward.

Looks okay. I just really disagree with the sliders.

They're really good suggestions

What sliders make sense or not is a little subjective ;3

Thanks for the mods!

Meyrink wrote:
Rakuen's Hard
00:28:640 (6,1) - Switch NC
00:32:640 (1,2) - same No change, vocal is stacked
00:53:473 (2) - a CTRL+G for this will work good Both are nice, but not too hard here
00:55:807 (3,1) - stack would be so good here ! u can do and then stack this 00:55:807 (3,1) - slider's end to 00:58:307 (5) - like this ? Keep, it's clearer to read
01:08:640 (1) - Remove NC And NC this one 01:08:807 (2) - ! makes more sense What sense...NC is not designed for strong beat, it's a "New Combo" (PM me if wanna know what means combo ;3)
01:10:640 (1,2) - same for those 2 ^
01:11:807 (1) - u can remove nc from this one since vocal still there ^ For specific patterns they are acceptable

Thanks for the mods!

Meyrink

728 posts

Joined February 2014

Meyrink 2015-03-28T14:25:57+00:00

@Rakuen I know about combos ! it's just me i use them only in new Measures ! or sv change !
i can understand what u mean o/

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-03-28T23:11:53+00:00

lowered od and fixed distnace snap things from meyrink's mod. the overlap is fine :p

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: hana.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56307
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 8807,12807,16807,20807,24640,40807,69807,88807
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Jishou Mushoku
TitleUnicode:自傷無色
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Moo-Chan
Version:pishi's Normal
Source:
Tags:hatsune miku utaite vocaloid achromatic nicovideo self inflicted pishifat rakuen smug- vhy cut
BeatmapID:654080
BeatmapSetID:239627

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:3.5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.35
SliderTickRate:3

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Moo-Chan 2015-03-29T01:20:21+00:00

bakari

-Bakari- wrote:
Yo, as requested by you-probably-already-know-who. yup

[General]
I suggest using a darker-green/brown combo colour instead of the bright yellow one. Let me know what you think changed it
[Easy]
The difference between x1,05 and x1,08 multipliers is nearly unnoticeable, why don't you just stick to x1,05? i know i know, i changed it
00:15:807 (5,1) - this kind of stack isn't really readable for beginners. (1) appears too suddenly and some of newbies will be stressed by this. fixed it
01:11:807 (2) - try to make the beginning of kiai clickable, it should emphasize the best part of the song, after all. im actually gonna keep this x: Example
Note: soince we've changed the one above, we should make 01:14:807 - this downbeat clickable as well. Just replace 01:14:307 (3) - with two circles or something like that and we'll be fine. Same with 01:16:807. fixed those both

I'm not a fan of SV changes in the easier diffs and the fact that you have 4 different SV multiplier values makes me quite opset. Apart from that, it's a lovely diff. thanks c:
[Insane]
00:37:307 (2,3,4) - the gap between (2) and (3) might be easily misread as 2/3. There is nothing worth stressing at these beats, so jump feels random. Same happens a few more times, watch out. fixed the one you pointed out
00:44:307 (5) - minor - this gets overlapped with the score-meter. Not a serious problem, but I'd fix this. ima actually keep this. it doesnt hit the hit bar and even if, its not unrankable
00:52:807 (1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1) - be careful with that, too many NCs give an unnatural boost to players' HP and break the balance. got rid of the new combo here 00:54:307 (3)

It looks like a nice diff but a few jumps feel out of place/exaggerated. mmk
Not much to say, you guys did well on this set.

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Best of luck!

meyrink

Meyrink wrote:
Hi ! irc chat request ! here's a quick mod !

General
General is fine ! just try to reduce some extra empty space in the .wav files ! for example soft-hitnormal11 have 1200ms ! only 200ms is the sound and 1000ms is empty
01:28:640 - why kiai there ? .-. >.> i like it

Easy
it's not really save to use sv change in easy ! it's okay for sections like kiai ! all 1.15 ! but imo 01:27:807 - 1x is useless ! and why 00:55:307 - 1.08x i suggest to keep 1.05 ! but anyways in general it will be better if u make all the map with just one SV ! with 1.1x in green lines would be safer
Or you can use 1.15 SV ! then keep all green lines 1.0x ! changed them on kiai to 1.1x and got rid of the 1.08
00:14:807 (4,1) - i think u can improve that to avoid the overlap between the both sliders ! fixed
00:14:807 (4,5) - Spacing ! Snap to 1,0x fixed
00:18:807 (4) - imo u can add some shape to this slider to give it more flow feeling ! it look kinda sharp for me ! or u can try something diffirent oki
00:21:807 (2,4) - can u stack those ? idk if ds can help with dat i cant :/
00:22:807 (3,1) - small overlap sliders end its fine for now ;;
00:32:807 (1) - can u lower this a bit ? just modifer previous objet so u can lowe it , it may be touching hp bar its not touching
00:24:307 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing ! changed
00:32:807 (1,2) - ^ , u'll need to improve also the next objet after fixing this one ima keep what i have
00:36:807 (1,2) - ^ ;_; ;;?
01:09:807 (4,2) - ahhh NAZI o^o ! stack is slightly off fixed

Insane
00:15:307 (2,5) - u can try blanket here fixed
00:15:973 (4,5,6) - Imo Spacing is kinda awkward since there's no special thing in this beat 00:16:307 - that make sense for big spacing ! it sound like the previous beats ! wich need to be consistent ! u can try somthing like ! your what ever u think it fits http://puu.sh/gS9Sr/d675ebc849.jpg i reduced it a bit. puush is down atm so i cant see what you suggested :c
00:28:473 (6,7,1) - i'm don't really like this linear flow ! i would change flow to somthing sircular maybe ! something more smouth in playing ! how about CTRL+H on 00:28:807 (1) - and move a bit to left ! like this ima keep this cause i like the flow if it ;;
00:33:807 (3) - CTRL+G ? ima keep it how it is >.<
00:35:473 (3,4) - ^ ? i dont like the anti jump this will create
00:44:640 (6,3) - minor stack , too nazi fixed
01:07:473 (3,4) - this spacing is so big reduce it ! the music there is not strong , like these 01:12:140 (3,4,5,6) - are so good ! i reduced it
Such Song ! Lovely 1/3 i knoww

thanks for the mods ♥♥

all updated

Speed of Snail

548 posts

Joined March 2014

Speed of Snail 2015-03-29T07:03:56+00:00

Hey, your mod as requested.

EASY

01:06:807 - This slider here has a point that goes off the grid, consider revising

Easy is very good, honestly keep it the way it is, just that one tick to look at.

PISHI'S NORMAL

01:12:307 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid

Again, very nice so far, just that one tick I found

RAKUEN'S HARD

Miscellaneous - Not sure,. but the metadata on this diff is really screwed up, doesn't display properly and just comes through as jumbled symbols. Definitely figure out what causes this (This problem only seems to occur when the setting "prefer non-English metadata" is turned on)

00:10:640 - While it's possible I'm just being stupid here, What is this circle mapping? (Combo 6)

00:29:807 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid

INSANE

Miscellaneous - This may seem strange, but I feel like this diff could use a smaller CS than it currently has, I'd recommend between 4.2 and 4.4

00:27:807 - This slider has a point that goes off the grid.

01:22:807 - The flow is a little cut by the placement of this circle here (Combo 1) I'd suggest lowering it's position slightly

Yep, so far you've done a great job cleaning this map up, I'd say it's definitely close to being rankable.

SMUG'S INSANE

00:43:807 - This slider has a point that's off the grid

Additional - Honestly, if I had one problem with Smug's insane, it's the slider speed, The sliders are slower than the average cursor speed of the map, I'd recommend changing it to 2.2 velocity, and remember when you change it you have to replace all sliders afterwards or the timing will be off, and While you're at it, the combo count for the max diff is a little lower than I'd normally think, raise slider tick count to 2.

Well, it's a very solid map and there wasn't much for me to mod, so GL getting this one ranked

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-03-29T07:18:14+00:00

TheOnlyLeon wrote:
PISHI'S NORMAL

01:12:307 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid

Again, very nice so far, just that one tick I found

it's k

Rakuen

1,654 posts

Joined March 2013

Rakuen 2015-03-29T07:36:43+00:00

TheOnlyLeon wrote:
RAKUEN'S HARD

Miscellaneous - Not sure,. but the metadata on this diff is really screwed up, doesn't display properly and just comes through as jumbled symbols. Definitely figure out what causes this (This problem only seems to occur when the setting "prefer non-English metadata" is turned on) Was an error, fixed

00:10:640 - While it's possible I'm just being stupid here, What is this circle mapping? (Combo 6) Looks fine to play I guess >.o)b , there are similar combos after that

00:29:807 - This slider has a point that leaves the grid Fixed

Thanks for the mods!

Update:

Rakuen's Hard

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: hana.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56307
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 8807,24640,40807
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 3
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Jishou Mushoku
TitleUnicode:自傷無色
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Moo-Chan
Version:Rakuen's Hard
Source:
Tags:hatsune miku utaite vocaloid achromatic nicovideo self inflicted pishifat rakuen smug- vhy cut
BeatmapID:573196
BeatmapSetID:239627

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.9
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Fizz

275 posts

Joined September 2013

Fizz 2015-03-30T03:43:34+00:00

TheOnlyLeon wrote:
SMUG'S INSANE

00:43:807 - This slider has a point that's off the grid it's fine, not a major issue

Additional - Honestly, if I had one problem with Smug's insane, it's the slider speed, The sliders are slower than the average cursor speed of the map, I'd recommend changing it to 2.2 velocity, and remember when you change it you have to replace all sliders afterwards or the timing will be off, and While you're at it, the combo count for the max diff is a little lower than I'd normally think, raise slider tick count to 2. Sliders being slower is an intentional design aspect. Also slider tick 2 adds very out of beat sounds to the song and is quite annoying to listen to, so I'm gonna have to pass on that. I think combo count is kinda arbitrary anyway

Thanks for the mod~
I did some major changes on kiai time, following the bass moreso than vocals now:

updoot

osu file format v14

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AudioFilename: hana.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56307
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 8807,12807,16807,20807,24640,40807,88807
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Jishou Mushoku
TitleUnicode:自傷無色
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Moo-Chan
Version:Smug's Insane
Source:
Tags:hatsune miku utaite vocaloid achromatic nicovideo self inflicted pishifat rakuen smug- vhy cut
BeatmapID:651219
BeatmapSetID:239627

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4.5
OverallDifficulty:8.5
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Moo-Chan 2015-03-30T04:28:09+00:00

no changes for me but thanks for the mod c:

all updated

DragonSlayer96

418 posts

Joined July 2012

DragonSlayer96 2015-03-31T23:22:35+00:00

Thank your friend Xellie for the mod Moo-chan on the CtB map

General

~~Tags are conflicting. you can see this on Vhy's difficulty~~ Had two difficulties that were taken out of the mapset, my bad

O.o all those custom hitsounds though

Rain

00:57:807 (3) - due to how the vocals are, i feel that this slider would be better going the other way.
01:13:307 (2) - ^ if you do, you want to edit the notes right after and (maybe???) just flip them around

Also, check AiMod. there is an unsnapped item for you to fix. ( 01:11:472 (4) - object end isn't snapped)

EDIT : fixed a sloppy error on my part

MBomb

MBomb 2015-04-01T17:14:15+00:00

Mod requested by Xellie for ctb diff lol

Vhy's Rain

00:11:307 (2,3) - I think this works better as a 2/3 slider.
00:19:307 (2,3) - ^ (Because these are held notes)
00:21:807 (7) - Whilst this would lead to a very short combo, I'd NC this because of the instrument change in mapping.
00:23:807 (7) - NC for emphasis on the strong beat and to avoid a long combo.
00:34:307 (5,6,7) - I like this as a 1/3 slider repeating once.
00:39:807 (5) - NC for strong beat and to avoid a long combo.
00:51:807 (4) - Possibly have 3 hyper into this? The beat is quite strong.
00:53:807 (4) - ^
01:25:807 (3) - The change from 2 to this feels weird without an NC in my opinion.

Alright, done.

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2015-04-03T12:00:54+00:00

Requested mod~
I'm doing GDs aswell because short map = Spare time ha (don't kill me all those other GD mappers pls)

[Easy]
Admittedly very decent in patterns and flow but it is small touches overall that are what needs doing.
This is probably just gonna be opinions as the map is nice.
00:09:807 (2) - Can't this blanket the start of slider 1?
00:13:307 (2) - Angle is kinda harsh to this note considering this music is calm as hell~ imo 00:11:807 (4,1,2,3) - the notes could be made into a curve spacing anyway.
00:16:807 (1) - x:291 y:296 nazitriangle
00:20:307 (5,1) - Sounds and feels better as a note then a slider. (yes I can tell this is emphasizing the instrument but point stands it feels nicer after the reverse before)
00:30:807 (3) - Should be a reverse if 00:26:807 (3) - is for consistency.
00:39:807 (3) - Another naziblanket thing here (end point up middle point down)
00:51:807 (4) - Make it an 180 degree flip of last slider?
00:54:807 (1,1) - Neccessary NCs? Would remove one.
00:59:807 (3) - Sorry but flow is pointing more right than down here rip pattern.
01:08:307 (2,3,4,5,1) - Placement of notes in this is kinda weird. Make into a nicer curve? (Or a curve at all)
01:21:807 (2) - 180 degree flip of last slider if possible?
01:26:807 (1,1,1) - I can see the NCs are meant to emphasize this area but sadly it looks weird haha (and everyone complains about sections like these on my maps)

[Pishi's Normal]
Love this normal, loss of words. <3
00:18:307 (3) - Would make it more down to fit with the patterning of last notes/sliders.
00:46:640 (4,1,2,3) - Kinda makes a difficulty spike in terms of reading, change or keep as your will, either way make 00:47:307 (2) - point more upwards so the angle is same to previous and next please.

[Rakuen's Hard]
Nazi stuff incoming (rip this difficulty needed it the most)
00:09:307 (2) - x:264 y:246 naziblanket
00:10:307 (5) - Would play better as a curve imo
00:14:307 (6) - y:71 (I can see off pixel stacks in play OCD fox here)
00:16:473 (4,5,1) - Either fix the DS up here, or make the curve less harsh with the momentum needed here. This is weird as hell.
00:26:807 (1) - x:16 y:268 naziblanket
00:27:473 (2,3) - Weird to play this whilst on these ticks (i cant say blue/red rip)
00:55:307 (2) - Jump is fine, not emphasized THIS MUCH from 1.3 DS to 2.5 imo
01:08:807 (2) - Move middle point down a tad for naziblanket

[Smug's Insane]
The long sliders in this really cramped my style. Mapping to every sound then missing out ones is just... no please ouch.
00:10:140 - Why no sound here? (I see you do this as a recurring pattern so I wont point it our every time, still nice to know why.)
00:11:807 (1) - if you are going to use darty jumping like this, atleast stack it properly at x:451 y:302 <3
00:32:306 (4) - Pls follow curve, put it more up-left
00:46:807 (1) - So... off putting to stack this and last note... There isn't a good enough reason for this. It kinda ruins the momentum of the last jumps too.
01:00:307 - Sound?
01:08:140 (2) - Same as above but this just feels weird entirely. Having a long slider at a random time like this killed my brain (no offense but that's how I felt) you should make into a note + long slider (and delete next note)
01:16:140 (2) - Kinda okay here though

[Insane]
Pretty decent. Little things nothing big at all!
00:09:973 (3) - No reason for stack, breaks momentum and music isn't really "stopping" any time soon.
00:21:307 (3) - Feels better when raised a little.
00:44:307 (5,6,1) - Kinda weird with momentum pointing up-right (you can use slider leniency to your advantage for linear flow but still) I would try and make the flow to the slider pointing that direction more obvious -if possible-
00:48:473 (5,6,1) - Would equalize DS here.
01:03:307 (2) - Some reason I expected a reverse short slider, kinda helps in terms of the music and the previous slider.

I would actually love to see this ranked. I like the maps and the music, I think the difficulties really fit well with the song style (except the long sliders *stares at Smug*)
Good luck with this!

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-04-05T04:22:48+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
[Pishi's Normal]
Love this normal, loss of words. <3
00:18:307 (3) - Would make it more down to fit with the patterning of last notes/sliders. moved the other one down so they're equal now goodyay
00:46:640 (4,1,2,3) - Kinda makes a difficulty spike in terms of reading, change or keep as your will, either way make 00:47:307 (2) - point more upwards so the angle is same to previous and next please. angling a straight slider mroe than 15 degrees D: never

i also changed hitsounds completely because moo's hitsounds are gross af

fjhgdf

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Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Moo-Chan 2015-04-05T05:30:38+00:00

pishifat wrote:
i also changed hitsounds completely because moo's hitsounds are gross af

wow so mean

Fizz

275 posts

Joined September 2013

Fizz 2015-04-05T07:10:46+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
[Smug's Insane]
The long sliders in this really cramped my style. | You're gonna have to be more specific than "long sliders" cause there are a lot of "long sliders" Mapping to every sound then missing out ones is just... no please ouch.

00:10:140 - Why no sound here? (I see you do this as a recurring pattern so I wont point it our every time, still nice to know why.) | Because it's the rhythm I chose
00:11:807 (1) - if you are going to use darty jumping like this, atleast stack it properly at x:451 y:302 <3 fixed
00:32:306 (4) - Pls follow curve, put it more up-left done
00:46:807 (1) - So... off putting to stack this and last note... There isn't a good enough reason for this. It kinda ruins the momentum of the last jumps too. changed
01:00:307 - Sound?
01:08:140 (2) - Same as above but this just feels weird entirely. Having a long slider at a random time like this killed my brain (no offense but that's how I felt) you should make into a note + long slider (and delete next note)
01:16:140 (2) - Kinda okay here though | Okay well clearly if you think that sometimes it's okay and others it's not you're just unaware of what I'm trying to map. Also next time don't bury your suggestion inside a potentially pissy comment and then justify it with "no offense" because that just makes me want to disregard your entire post.

Also I'm getting pretty tired of hearing suggestions to change this rhythm because unless for some reason I'm batshit crazy it's not that hard to figure out what I'm trying to map

I'm sick as shit and that comes with getting irritated really easily

update

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:自傷無色
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Version:Smug's Insane
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