MOBAs are way worseFlameu wrote:
90% of the anger in my life is due to clicking circleswinber1 wrote:
as long as we have circles to click, no anger shall harm us
the other 10% is because I play MOBAs
MOBA is not a genre
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Clicking circles makes me smileFlameu wrote:
90% of the anger in my life is due to clicking circleswinber1 wrote:
as long as we have circles to click, no anger shall harm us
the other 10% is because I play MOBAs
I get better by not playing... I never see improvements while playing but after taking about a 1-2 day break I become better....
Topic Starter
Well I've seen loads of people say how many hit walls and quit, but by playing more you soon overcome them.kamikin wrote:
I get better by not playing... I never see improvements while playing but after taking about a 1-2 day break I become better....
I'm at a wall right now already, so we'll soon see whether just playing a lot makes that much of a difference
I hit a wall and it feels like crap already, i'm gonna try out different songs and master AR 9-9.8 .. I can't imagine what hitting a wall is like at rank<10klilelf29 wrote:
I'm at a wall right now already, so we'll soon see whether just playing a lot makes that much of a difference
i hit a wall 8 months ago and i stopped trying to overcome it
Thought of Bob the Builder when I saw the thread title and I wasn't disappointed
That said, if everyone wasn't such a quitter and was truly trying their best to be #1, then yeah, you'd be having a really hard time getting there.
This isn't true, actually. It depends heavily on too vague variables to be able to properly tell. Yes, it's quite obvious that someone in the top 10 who's played for 3-5 years has a huge advantage over someone starting today, but, as you can see herecheezstik wrote:
Well, if by the top, you mean #1, then probably not. Even now, it's extremely statistically unlikely for someone that just started playing to ever reach >#100, and this number is continuously growing, to the point where it might be nearly impossible to ever reach >#1000. Might be bursting someones bubble, but it's true.lilelf29 wrote:
You guys makes things feels so ahievable it's very refreshing.
People don't always continuously improve. Depending on your base compatibility with the different skills osu! requires (i.e. if you've played some other sort of game in the past that required fast left-hand tapping, you'll probably have a starting advantage when it comes to streaming), when your walls happen and for how long they'll last, and when other players' walls happen and how long those last, as well as your compatibility with the newest maps getting ranked (i.e. some players are better at older maps while others are better at newer ones, and some players are better at RLC-like maps while others are better at HW-style maps, etc.), you can't really tell how big the chance of each individual in this game is to eventually reach #1. Maybe OP won't be #1 next year, or the year after that, but it's not impossible at all. That's just pessimistic, not realistic.silmarilen wrote:
i hit a wall 8 months ago and i stopped trying to overcome it
That said, if everyone wasn't such a quitter and was truly trying their best to be #1, then yeah, you'd be having a really hard time getting there.
maybe if you did some dedicated speed and AR10 training you could start doing stuff like Wind God Girl HDHR and get into the top 500silmarilen wrote:
i hit a wall 8 months ago and i stopped trying to overcome it
my frustration is that all my aim, reading and accuracy all improve through practice, except I can't stream. I'll play a fast map, but start mashing on the streams and break combo. So I need to completely stop playing fast maps to break the habit of stream mashing, and solely play low bpm stream maps until I can stream properly, which is boring as hell.
Wind God Girl is such a bad map though. Also B1rd try building up. Find the bpm that you're comfortable with streaming and then keep bumping up 5bpm until you're comfortable with that
Continue until Cookiezi
Continue until Cookiezi
That's because you are resting your hands. After a few days of training, you will slowly feel worse at the game. The rest will help a lot.kamikin wrote:
I get better by not playing... I never see improvements while playing but after taking about a 1-2 day break I become better....
Which is probably why a lot of people hit walls, they don't take breaks.
you cant build something that isnt inherent such as streaming ability because you cant expect to stream at your best possible bpm every day, pretty pointless advice but then again so is yoursTess wrote:
Wind God Girl is such a bad map though. Also B1rd try building up. Find the bpm that you're comfortable with streaming and then keep bumping up 5bpm until you're comfortable with that
Continue until Cookiezi
also who seriously hates on od9 stream maps?
But breaks are boring.Bauxe wrote:
That's because you are resting your hands. After a few days of training, you will slowly feel worse at the game. The rest will help a lot.kamikin wrote:
I get better by not playing... I never see improvements while playing but after taking about a 1-2 day break I become better....
Which is probably why a lot of people hit walls, they don't take breaks.
you only take breaks when you don't feel like playing anymore.
You don't have to stream at your best possible bpm every day, and nobody ever said that. If you want to strawman your way into looking cool then that's fine but then you might want to reconsider what really is pointless in this equation. Perhaps if you'd read what I said properly you'dve seen that I recommended he finds the BPM he can stream with comfortably, not his best possible bpm. If that's 180 on monday and 150 on tuesday then so be it, as long as it's his comfortable speed.x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
you cant build something that isnt inherent such as streaming ability because you cant expect to stream at your best possible bpm every day, pretty pointless advice but then again so is yoursTess wrote:
Wind God Girl is such a bad map though. Also B1rd try building up. Find the bpm that you're comfortable with streaming and then keep bumping up 5bpm until you're comfortable with that
Continue until Cookiezi
also who seriously hates on od9 stream maps?
Also who said I called Wind God Girl bad for being an OD9 stream map?
Also, Bauxe is right. Breaks are important. Also has a cute new avatar, damn.
the advice isn't very relevant considering I'm not looking to build speed, I'm looking to build up technique and accuracy. But regardless, there's no advice that will help, I just need to practice.
are you trying to twist this into some sort of a debate whether or not that map is a stream mapTess wrote:
Also who said I called Wind God Girl bad for being an OD9 stream map?
rofl these forums
Technique, accuracy and speed go hand in hand, though. If you master lower bpm streams, higher bpm won't take very long to do well. You just need to set a basis where you're confident that you can stream very well under X BPM. Once you have that set, you can start building speed, which in turn also makes your fingers more steady at slower speeds since they get used to a much heavier amount of strain. I remember that after I did a decent amount of practice I could stream anything of say, 165 bpm or lower for minutes on end without really losing fatigue. But I mostly practiced that by "streaming" throughout my day. Like, when I'm in a waiting room, just alternately tap my fingers on my leg or something. After doing that for just 3-4 days I went from not being able to do deathstreams at all to nearly SSing Placebo Dying.
People often say "play more" or "all you need is more practice" but what's important is how you practice, not how much. If you practice the wrong way then yeah, you'll make slow or no progress. Practice efficiently and you won't have that issue. The thing I described may not work for you but I guess the most important thing is to try out different practice methods until you find one that suits you, then stick to it, and practice regularly and consistently. That'll probably land you the most favorable results. Also, mindset. Very important thing. The more you think you suck, the more you'll suck. That doesn't mean that thinking you're Cookiezi will make you Cookiezi, but I see many players hate their skill - regardless of being rank 500 or 500K - and also complain about being stuck at the same spot for months or even moving back in progress. I personally have trouble with it too, but it's important to be proud of what you can do, rather than hate yourself for what you can't.
People often say "play more" or "all you need is more practice" but what's important is how you practice, not how much. If you practice the wrong way then yeah, you'll make slow or no progress. Practice efficiently and you won't have that issue. The thing I described may not work for you but I guess the most important thing is to try out different practice methods until you find one that suits you, then stick to it, and practice regularly and consistently. That'll probably land you the most favorable results. Also, mindset. Very important thing. The more you think you suck, the more you'll suck. That doesn't mean that thinking you're Cookiezi will make you Cookiezi, but I see many players hate their skill - regardless of being rank 500 or 500K - and also complain about being stuck at the same spot for months or even moving back in progress. I personally have trouble with it too, but it's important to be proud of what you can do, rather than hate yourself for what you can't.
yeah that's good advice, although I've already figured out as much. The problem is I can't stream any bpm, I'm still in the process of practising 90-145bpm.
Try the long stream practice maps by onlyforyou (I think it was him)B1rd wrote:
yeah that's good advice, although I've already figured out as much. The problem is I can't stream any bpm, I'm still in the process of practising 90-145bpm.
Just play the 120bpm over and over until you pass it, then until you fc it.
Repeat for the higher bpms until around 150-160, then you can probably start playing regular stream maps.
Once again with the strawmanning. I never said it wasn't a stream map. I said that the fact that it's an OD9 stream map doesn't make it bad. It's the patterns, mainly the rhythms, that make it bad. I don't care what OD it has, the rhythms don't really fit the song and the hitsounds are awful.x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
are you trying to twist this into some sort of a debate whether or not that map is a stream mapTess wrote:
Also who said I called Wind God Girl bad for being an OD9 stream map?
rofl these forums
I won't be surprised if you toss a strawman at this too, though.
@Tess I'll save you some time and effort, don't respond to that guy. He's incapable of having a discussion.
Topic Starter
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.Tess wrote:
Technique, accuracy and speed go hand in hand, though. If you master lower bpm streams, higher bpm won't take very long to do well. You just need to set a basis where you're confident that you can stream very well under X BPM. Once you have that set, you can start building speed, which in turn also makes your fingers more steady at slower speeds since they get used to a much heavier amount of strain. I remember that after I did a decent amount of practice I could stream anything of say, 165 bpm or lower for minutes on end without really losing fatigue. But I mostly practiced that by "streaming" throughout my day. Like, when I'm in a waiting room, just alternately tap my fingers on my leg or something. After doing that for just 3-4 days I went from not being able to do deathstreams at all to nearly SSing Placebo Dying.
People often say "play more" or "all you need is more practice" but what's important is how you practice, not how much. If you practice the wrong way then yeah, you'll make slow or no progress. Practice efficiently and you won't have that issue. The thing I described may not work for you but I guess the most important thing is to try out different practice methods until you find one that suits you, then stick to it, and practice regularly and consistently. That'll probably land you the most favorable results. Also, mindset. Very important thing. The more you think you suck, the more you'll suck. That doesn't mean that thinking you're Cookiezi will make you Cookiezi, but I see many players hate their skill - regardless of being rank 500 or 500K - and also complain about being stuck at the same spot for months or even moving back in progress. I personally have trouble with it too, but it's important to be proud of what you can do, rather than hate yourself for what you can't.
If you practice at all you will make non-zero progress. It might be negligible progress but given sufficient time it will amount to something. Thus, "play more" is a catch all, if not very useful, piece of advice.
I agree with Tess on the streaming though. Streaming is less about streaming and more about being comfortable with the rhythm. If you are struggling to even keep up with a bpm physically then it's very difficult to stay focused on the music and play the stream accurately. If you aren't streaming accurately it's really not that great of practice. The more comfortable you get at streaming bpm X, the more comfortable you will be streaming a little bit faster than bpm X. Streaming faster bpm that you aren't comfortable a couple times a day just to check your progress is one thing but definitely practice at the highest bpm you are comfortable with if you want to push speed and maintain accuracy.
The biggest thing to keep in mind is that you will play more accurately if you keep yourself mentally calm. If you miss, try not to let it bother you. PP takes time and patience. If you don't have either, then don't expect to get any pp.
I agree with Tess on the streaming though. Streaming is less about streaming and more about being comfortable with the rhythm. If you are struggling to even keep up with a bpm physically then it's very difficult to stay focused on the music and play the stream accurately. If you aren't streaming accurately it's really not that great of practice. The more comfortable you get at streaming bpm X, the more comfortable you will be streaming a little bit faster than bpm X. Streaming faster bpm that you aren't comfortable a couple times a day just to check your progress is one thing but definitely practice at the highest bpm you are comfortable with if you want to push speed and maintain accuracy.
The biggest thing to keep in mind is that you will play more accurately if you keep yourself mentally calm. If you miss, try not to let it bother you. PP takes time and patience. If you don't have either, then don't expect to get any pp.
Topic Starter
Well we'll soon see as I'll have the same play count as you have now in 3~ months which is very soon, and yet I almost guarantee I won't be anywhere close to where you are.chainpullz wrote:
If you practice at all you will make non-zero progress. It might be negligible progress but given sufficient time it will amount to something. Thus, "play more" is a catch all, if not very useful, piece of advice.
I agree with Tess on the streaming though. Streaming is less about streaming and more about being comfortable with the rhythm. If you are struggling to even keep up with a bpm physically then it's very difficult to stay focused on the music and play the stream accurately. If you aren't streaming accurately it's really not that great of practice. The more comfortable you get at streaming bpm X, the more comfortable you will be streaming a little bit faster than bpm X. Streaming faster bpm that you aren't comfortable a couple times a day just to check your progress is one thing but definitely practice at the highest bpm you are comfortable with if you want to push speed and maintain accuracy.
The biggest thing to keep in mind is that you will play more accurately if you keep yourself mentally calm. If you miss, try not to let it bother you. PP takes time and patience. If you don't have either, then don't expect to get any pp.
Is this the new "road to cookiezi tier" thread?
Topic Starter
It's the 7th week, so that's why it looks like that, and also, right now I'm literally using all my free time on osu, I can't do much more D:KukiMonster wrote:
That is not how you play more. This is how you play more. Hit 1 million notes every month.lilelf29 wrote:
Well we'll soon see as I'll have the same play count as you have now in 3~ months which is very soon, and yet I almost guarantee I won't be anywhere close to where you are.
With college and work taking up 55-60 hours a week I just try the most I can
Although I must commend you on your commitment and improvement.
There's a difference between "hvick is a better player than me" and "I'm a shittier player than hvick"lilelf29 wrote:
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.
Topic Starter
There is, although both are true.Tess wrote:
There's a difference between "hvick is a better player than me" and "I'm a shittier player than hvick"lilelf29 wrote:
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.
But it is pretty hard to see what you've done well/achieved when you are yet to actually achieve anything; this is even more difficult because what you classify as an achievement is subjective and if you have the mindset that you've achieved something (from what I've seen) you just get belittled back down into thinking you haven't.
I am of the opinion that I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
Just like 90% of us, welcome to osss!lilelf29 wrote:
I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
You're not bad, you're inexperienced. People are really pessimistic, self-loathing creatures, and they'll try to bring themselves (and each other) down at every opportunity they can find. They bring themselves down because they feel like they're not good enough and they bring others down because the grass is greener on the other side.lilelf29 wrote:
But it is pretty hard to see what you've done well/achieved when you are yet to actually achieve anything; this is even more difficult because what you classify as an achievement is subjective and if you have the mindset that you've achieved something (from what I've seen) you just get belittled back down into thinking you haven't.
I am of the opinion that I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
I mean, think about it. Let's say you meet a hobo who tells you that he used to be a hard working man but then his grandfather died and he inherited his ginormous debts and lost everything, still being in debt to several companies to this day. Would you make fun of him for that? I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would see that as a reason to make fun of him, or put him down by saying he's a broke fuck or something. Yes, he is broke, he's homeless, he has less money than most people - that's an undeniable fact. But if he found a shitty job at the McDonalds a week later and barely earned any pay while trying his best, would he be shit? Would he suck? Would he be bad?
No, because despite it being incredibly hard for him, he's still trying his best to work himself back into a normal life from the bottom up. Even if he may not end up as a millionaire in the future, if he managed to end up with a decent job, clear out all his debts and buy a decent house, that'd be way more impressive than someone who was born in a wealthy family and inherited their father's business after he died. It's similar everywhere, really. People won't really bring someone down for not being good at something, they'll only bring someone down out of jealousy or some other personal problem. So don't let it get to you because someone belittling you for something is most likely just mad at themselves about something else.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that you need to stop looking at your progress relative to that of others. That only really holds you back. Reason being that seeing someone else as #1 automatically makes you believe you're #2, and even if you'd have the capacity to #1, you believing that you can't make it there will prevent you from making it there. That's just how brains work. If instead of trying to compete with others you compete with yourself, you will most likely achieve the most optimal results. Because you can't really get jealous at yourself, or say that you aren't as predisposed at being good at this game as yourself. That said, some people will still get jealous at their past selves (I know I did) and that works pretty much the same as being jealous at someone else, it's only a tad bit dumber.
The best thing to do is look at your progress relative to yourself. If you beat your top performance, that's an achievement, and you should be proud of it, no matter what kind of performance it is. When I got my current top performance, I was super proud and excited about it, and I still am proud of it. Should I be less proud of it because it's not a Remote Control HDDT FC worth >550pp? Wouldn't it be much more productive to use my pride and excitement for that score as a fuel to get more similar and possibly even better scores than to call myself shit just because it's not the best of the best?
This community doesn't help, though. I know of the Touhou community that they'll be much more impressed at someone who manages to clear their first Hard after weeks of trying than at a veteran player who 1cc's a Lunatic for the umptieth time. Yes, it's very impressive to watch a pro player do their thing, but it's much harder for a shit player to clear a Hard than it is for a pro player to 1cc a Lunatic.
Perhaps it'd help if everybody didn't go full Oprah with "I suck! You suck! Everybody sucks !!!!xcept cokesi xD" and actually praised each other for their achievements no matter where on the progress bar they are, so long as it's an improvement from what they were already good at. By that logic, hvick's Hoshizora play is just as impressive as a 50K who FCs their first Insane after going through a lot of trouble and effort to get there. To me, the 50K would be more impressive, but I expect most players will continue to stay superficial and only be impressed by what they can't do, rather than compliment each other for their hard work.
One thing you'll eventually learn in life is that it's never beneficial to compare yourself to others. There are a lot of things to be said in support of this but I'm currently procrastinating the finishing touches of a half assed white paper due in a hour so I'll spare you the details and cut straight to an example of this.
I help out with a program for middle school and high school students targeted at getting children involved in abstract (aka pure) mathematics at a young age. Many of the students are children of professors or similar and tend to be quite intelligent. One day I was helping with the middle school section and two students started bickering. It's not uncommon for middle school students to get into arguments and until it gets physical I usually let things play out as a valuable learning experience (probably a mistake).
I can't recall what the actual argument was about but it eventually devolved into the 5th grader saying, "yeah, well you're stupid. I'm a 5th grader in 9th grade math" or something like that and the 8th grader countering with something like "I'm an 8th grader and I'm learning calculus right now." It was pretty obvious this line of argument was going nowhere. In the end, both students kept arguing by trying to compare what they thought to be their best points and ended up both feeling really stupid.
Now you may point out, "I'm not comparing myself and saying I'm better than anyone." While this is true, you are still comparing yourself to people who are much better than yourself at the game. The point is, there will always be somebody better than you. It's a fact. Cookiezi may have been a great osu! player, but I'm sure nowadays as he pursues other endeavors he realizes how pointless this is. If you find enjoyment out of improving and being good at this game then that's great, more power to you. Just realize that, as a person, you are better than people at some things, and they are better than you at others.
Accept the fact that your value as a person, besides being completely subjective, is a compilation of your many qualities. You cannot compare the net worth of 2 people, only specific traits. Revel in the fact that each person is unique in their own way and live your life the way that you enjoy (while conforming to societal norms preferably). Set your goals based on specific maps that you want to able to play/pass/fc and not specific ranks you want to obtain.
Anyways, that was more long winded than I planned but I do really have to get back to half-assing this paper so I don't drop from an A in the course.
I help out with a program for middle school and high school students targeted at getting children involved in abstract (aka pure) mathematics at a young age. Many of the students are children of professors or similar and tend to be quite intelligent. One day I was helping with the middle school section and two students started bickering. It's not uncommon for middle school students to get into arguments and until it gets physical I usually let things play out as a valuable learning experience (probably a mistake).
I can't recall what the actual argument was about but it eventually devolved into the 5th grader saying, "yeah, well you're stupid. I'm a 5th grader in 9th grade math" or something like that and the 8th grader countering with something like "I'm an 8th grader and I'm learning calculus right now." It was pretty obvious this line of argument was going nowhere. In the end, both students kept arguing by trying to compare what they thought to be their best points and ended up both feeling really stupid.
Now you may point out, "I'm not comparing myself and saying I'm better than anyone." While this is true, you are still comparing yourself to people who are much better than yourself at the game. The point is, there will always be somebody better than you. It's a fact. Cookiezi may have been a great osu! player, but I'm sure nowadays as he pursues other endeavors he realizes how pointless this is. If you find enjoyment out of improving and being good at this game then that's great, more power to you. Just realize that, as a person, you are better than people at some things, and they are better than you at others.
Accept the fact that your value as a person, besides being completely subjective, is a compilation of your many qualities. You cannot compare the net worth of 2 people, only specific traits. Revel in the fact that each person is unique in their own way and live your life the way that you enjoy (while conforming to societal norms preferably). Set your goals based on specific maps that you want to able to play/pass/fc and not specific ranks you want to obtain.
Anyways, that was more long winded than I planned but I do really have to get back to half-assing this paper so I don't drop from an A in the course.
Being realistic, yes, he would suck, he would be bad. Ofc you wouldn't tell him that or make fun of him for that, cos that is a much more serious, important topic, and you would come off as insensitive and a dick for that, since real life in general is much harder and more serious than being good at a game, and not even a competitive game at that, osu is more for fun than the games with e-sports communities and people making a living off of them. I couldn't really give a shit if someone told me I'm bad at a game, but I can see how someone like that hobo might be upset if you called him bad for his situation.Tess wrote:
I mean, think about it. Let's say you meet a hobo who tells you that he used to be a hard working man but then his grandfather died and he inherited his ginormous debts and lost everything, still being in debt to several companies to this day. Would you make fun of him for that? I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would see that as a reason to make fun of him, or put him down by saying he's a broke fuck or something. Yes, he is broke, he's homeless, he has less money than most people - that's an undeniable fact. But if he found a shitty job at the McDonalds a week later and barely earned any pay while trying his best, would he be shit? Would he suck? Would he be bad?
Tl;dr games (or at least osu and other non competitive games) and being bad at them don't matter, having a good job and a home and shit IRL does.
An achievement I'd like to see is this thread locked
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Did you know that watching someone get abused and mistreated makes your brain react similarly to the brain of the person being abused?cheezstik wrote:
Being realistic, yes, he would suck, he would be bad. Ofc you wouldn't tell him that or make fun of him for that, cos that is a much more serious, important topic, and you would come off as insensitive and a dick for that, since real life in general is much harder and more serious than being good at a game, and not even a competitive game at that, osu is more for fun than the games with e-sports communities and people making a living off of them. I couldn't really give a shit if someone told me I'm bad at a game, but I can see how someone like that hobo might be upset if you called him bad for his situation.
Tl;dr games (or at least osu and other non competitive games) and being bad at them don't matter, having a good job and a home and shit IRL does.
Or that when someone attacks you verbally, your body and brain respond in the same way as when someone would attack you physically?
Or that telling someone that they're bad at a game affects them just as much as telling them that they're bad at anything else?
Thing is, people like to attach values to things. "This is good", "this is okay", "this is horrible", "this is very good", and "that is very bad". But each person attaches different kinds of values to different things, and then fails to understand how someone else could value things differently than they do. Most people think that they understand what's right and wrong while there isn't really an objective right or wrong. Those are just words for things people like and don't like.
So, yes. It is true that having a house and a way to put food on the table should be prioritized over a game. However, fact of the matter is that someone who doesn't have to worry about those things will prioritize things that aren't a basal need for them. And then a game can become very important, sometimes it becomes even more important than eating to someone. Sure, it might not be what they need, but that doesn't make it any less important to them. Who are you to tell them that their most important thing in life doesn't matter? Would you say that their mother doesn't matter? I can see you thinking "lol but this is a game it's very different from mothers", but the fact that people need a mother more than a game doesn't change the fact that saying a game someone cares about a lot doesn't matter is a similar act.
Always remember that people will think in ways that you don't, can't and won't understand, and you need to respect that. You can only really say something about if they're, say, neglecting their children because they care more about the game. That's not the case in this context though.
In short, how important something is to you or to humans in general doesn't change the fact that talking down on something important to someone else is a horrible thing to do, especially if that thing doesn't harm them or others in the slightest.
tldr itt: stop writing 7 paragraph posts about ways to get good and instead start playing the game
Well, what you say is true, but I won't randomly talk to someone and say they are bad, I would only tell someone what I think of them if they asked "am I good?" or "how am I at osu" or something along those lines. Ofc I'm gonna give a realistic answer, if they didn't wanna hear that, then they are obviously just fishing for compliments, or should've just said "tell me I'm good pls", and I don't really care if I offend a person like that, cos they are just asking for it. If neither of those are the case, then they don't mind being called bad, cos they are also realistic.Tess wrote:
In short, how important something is to you or to humans in general doesn't change the fact that talking down on something important to someone else is a horrible thing to do, especially if that thing doesn't harm them or others in the slightest.
Aim for the stars my friends : 3
My point though is that the way you approach giving such feedback can make or break a player. Here are several answers you can give to a mediocre player asking "Am I good?":cheezstik wrote:
Well, what you say is true, but I won't randomly talk to someone and say they are bad, I would only tell someone what I think of them if they asked "am I good?" or "how am I at osu" or something along those lines. Ofc I'm gonna give a realistic answer, if they didn't wanna hear that, then they are obviously just fishing for compliments, or should've just said "tell me I'm good pls", and I don't really care if I offend a person like that, cos they are just asking for it. If neither of those are the case, then they don't mind being called bad, cos they are also realistic.
"No." "Better than the really shitty players." "Do you think you're good?" "Are you better than you used to be?" "Does it matter?" "lol no" "Yeah you're awesome!!"
Among others. As you can see some of these are downright cold or mean, while others are lies or white lies, and yet others are true but also not hurtful. That's what I like about the Touhou community - they won't tell you you're pro if you're not, but they will commend you for the achievements you did make, no matter how easy those are for most players - as long as they were hard to achieve for you.
So basically just watch your wording because it matters way more than you think.
"do things without thinking about them that'll help u 4 sur"x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
tldr itt: stop writing 7 paragraph posts about ways to get good and instead start playing the game