90% of the anger in my life is due to clicking circleswinber1 wrote:
as long as we have circles to click, no anger shall harm us
Don't do drug kidsx_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
war never changes, yet..
war has changed, we now fight but an endless amount of proxy battles
war has changed
MOBAs are way worseFlameu wrote:
90% of the anger in my life is due to clicking circleswinber1 wrote:
as long as we have circles to click, no anger shall harm us
the other 10% is because I play MOBAs
Clicking circles makes me smileFlameu wrote:
90% of the anger in my life is due to clicking circleswinber1 wrote:
as long as we have circles to click, no anger shall harm us
the other 10% is because I play MOBAs
Well I've seen loads of people say how many hit walls and quit, but by playing more you soon overcome them.kamikin wrote:
I get better by not playing... I never see improvements while playing but after taking about a 1-2 day break I become better....
I hit a wall and it feels like crap already, i'm gonna try out different songs and master AR 9-9.8 .. I can't imagine what hitting a wall is like at rank<10klilelf29 wrote:
I'm at a wall right now already, so we'll soon see whether just playing a lot makes that much of a difference
This isn't true, actually. It depends heavily on too vague variables to be able to properly tell. Yes, it's quite obvious that someone in the top 10 who's played for 3-5 years has a huge advantage over someone starting today, but, as you can see herecheezstik wrote:
Well, if by the top, you mean #1, then probably not. Even now, it's extremely statistically unlikely for someone that just started playing to ever reach >#100, and this number is continuously growing, to the point where it might be nearly impossible to ever reach >#1000. Might be bursting someones bubble, but it's true.lilelf29 wrote:
You guys makes things feels so ahievable it's very refreshing.
People don't always continuously improve. Depending on your base compatibility with the different skills osu! requires (i.e. if you've played some other sort of game in the past that required fast left-hand tapping, you'll probably have a starting advantage when it comes to streaming), when your walls happen and for how long they'll last, and when other players' walls happen and how long those last, as well as your compatibility with the newest maps getting ranked (i.e. some players are better at older maps while others are better at newer ones, and some players are better at RLC-like maps while others are better at HW-style maps, etc.), you can't really tell how big the chance of each individual in this game is to eventually reach #1. Maybe OP won't be #1 next year, or the year after that, but it's not impossible at all. That's just pessimistic, not realistic.silmarilen wrote:
i hit a wall 8 months ago and i stopped trying to overcome it
maybe if you did some dedicated speed and AR10 training you could start doing stuff like Wind God Girl HDHR and get into the top 500silmarilen wrote:
i hit a wall 8 months ago and i stopped trying to overcome it
That's because you are resting your hands. After a few days of training, you will slowly feel worse at the game. The rest will help a lot.kamikin wrote:
I get better by not playing... I never see improvements while playing but after taking about a 1-2 day break I become better....
you cant build something that isnt inherent such as streaming ability because you cant expect to stream at your best possible bpm every day, pretty pointless advice but then again so is yoursTess wrote:
Wind God Girl is such a bad map though. Also B1rd try building up. Find the bpm that you're comfortable with streaming and then keep bumping up 5bpm until you're comfortable with that
Continue until Cookiezi
But breaks are boring.Bauxe wrote:
That's because you are resting your hands. After a few days of training, you will slowly feel worse at the game. The rest will help a lot.kamikin wrote:
I get better by not playing... I never see improvements while playing but after taking about a 1-2 day break I become better....
Which is probably why a lot of people hit walls, they don't take breaks.
You don't have to stream at your best possible bpm every day, and nobody ever said that. If you want to strawman your way into looking cool then that's fine but then you might want to reconsider what really is pointless in this equation. Perhaps if you'd read what I said properly you'dve seen that I recommended he finds the BPM he can stream with comfortably, not his best possible bpm. If that's 180 on monday and 150 on tuesday then so be it, as long as it's his comfortable speed.x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
you cant build something that isnt inherent such as streaming ability because you cant expect to stream at your best possible bpm every day, pretty pointless advice but then again so is yoursTess wrote:
Wind God Girl is such a bad map though. Also B1rd try building up. Find the bpm that you're comfortable with streaming and then keep bumping up 5bpm until you're comfortable with that
Continue until Cookiezi
also who seriously hates on od9 stream maps?
are you trying to twist this into some sort of a debate whether or not that map is a stream mapTess wrote:
Also who said I called Wind God Girl bad for being an OD9 stream map?
Try the long stream practice maps by onlyforyou (I think it was him)B1rd wrote:
yeah that's good advice, although I've already figured out as much. The problem is I can't stream any bpm, I'm still in the process of practising 90-145bpm.
Once again with the strawmanning. I never said it wasn't a stream map. I said that the fact that it's an OD9 stream map doesn't make it bad. It's the patterns, mainly the rhythms, that make it bad. I don't care what OD it has, the rhythms don't really fit the song and the hitsounds are awful.x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
are you trying to twist this into some sort of a debate whether or not that map is a stream mapTess wrote:
Also who said I called Wind God Girl bad for being an OD9 stream map?
rofl these forums
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.Tess wrote:
Technique, accuracy and speed go hand in hand, though. If you master lower bpm streams, higher bpm won't take very long to do well. You just need to set a basis where you're confident that you can stream very well under X BPM. Once you have that set, you can start building speed, which in turn also makes your fingers more steady at slower speeds since they get used to a much heavier amount of strain. I remember that after I did a decent amount of practice I could stream anything of say, 165 bpm or lower for minutes on end without really losing fatigue. But I mostly practiced that by "streaming" throughout my day. Like, when I'm in a waiting room, just alternately tap my fingers on my leg or something. After doing that for just 3-4 days I went from not being able to do deathstreams at all to nearly SSing Placebo Dying.
People often say "play more" or "all you need is more practice" but what's important is how you practice, not how much. If you practice the wrong way then yeah, you'll make slow or no progress. Practice efficiently and you won't have that issue. The thing I described may not work for you but I guess the most important thing is to try out different practice methods until you find one that suits you, then stick to it, and practice regularly and consistently. That'll probably land you the most favorable results. Also, mindset. Very important thing. The more you think you suck, the more you'll suck. That doesn't mean that thinking you're Cookiezi will make you Cookiezi, but I see many players hate their skill - regardless of being rank 500 or 500K - and also complain about being stuck at the same spot for months or even moving back in progress. I personally have trouble with it too, but it's important to be proud of what you can do, rather than hate yourself for what you can't.
Well we'll soon see as I'll have the same play count as you have now in 3~ months which is very soon, and yet I almost guarantee I won't be anywhere close to where you are.chainpullz wrote:
If you practice at all you will make non-zero progress. It might be negligible progress but given sufficient time it will amount to something. Thus, "play more" is a catch all, if not very useful, piece of advice.
I agree with Tess on the streaming though. Streaming is less about streaming and more about being comfortable with the rhythm. If you are struggling to even keep up with a bpm physically then it's very difficult to stay focused on the music and play the stream accurately. If you aren't streaming accurately it's really not that great of practice. The more comfortable you get at streaming bpm X, the more comfortable you will be streaming a little bit faster than bpm X. Streaming faster bpm that you aren't comfortable a couple times a day just to check your progress is one thing but definitely practice at the highest bpm you are comfortable with if you want to push speed and maintain accuracy.
The biggest thing to keep in mind is that you will play more accurately if you keep yourself mentally calm. If you miss, try not to let it bother you. PP takes time and patience. If you don't have either, then don't expect to get any pp.
It's the 7th week, so that's why it looks like that, and also, right now I'm literally using all my free time on osu, I can't do much more D:KukiMonster wrote:
That is not how you play more. This is how you play more. Hit 1 million notes every month.lilelf29 wrote:
Well we'll soon see as I'll have the same play count as you have now in 3~ months which is very soon, and yet I almost guarantee I won't be anywhere close to where you are.
There's a difference between "hvick is a better player than me" and "I'm a shittier player than hvick"lilelf29 wrote:
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.
There is, although both are true.Tess wrote:
There's a difference between "hvick is a better player than me" and "I'm a shittier player than hvick"lilelf29 wrote:
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.
Just like 90% of us, welcome to osss!lilelf29 wrote:
I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
You're not bad, you're inexperienced. People are really pessimistic, self-loathing creatures, and they'll try to bring themselves (and each other) down at every opportunity they can find. They bring themselves down because they feel like they're not good enough and they bring others down because the grass is greener on the other side.lilelf29 wrote:
But it is pretty hard to see what you've done well/achieved when you are yet to actually achieve anything; this is even more difficult because what you classify as an achievement is subjective and if you have the mindset that you've achieved something (from what I've seen) you just get belittled back down into thinking you haven't.
I am of the opinion that I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
Being realistic, yes, he would suck, he would be bad. Ofc you wouldn't tell him that or make fun of him for that, cos that is a much more serious, important topic, and you would come off as insensitive and a dick for that, since real life in general is much harder and more serious than being good at a game, and not even a competitive game at that, osu is more for fun than the games with e-sports communities and people making a living off of them. I couldn't really give a shit if someone told me I'm bad at a game, but I can see how someone like that hobo might be upset if you called him bad for his situation.Tess wrote:
I mean, think about it. Let's say you meet a hobo who tells you that he used to be a hard working man but then his grandfather died and he inherited his ginormous debts and lost everything, still being in debt to several companies to this day. Would you make fun of him for that? I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would see that as a reason to make fun of him, or put him down by saying he's a broke fuck or something. Yes, he is broke, he's homeless, he has less money than most people - that's an undeniable fact. But if he found a shitty job at the McDonalds a week later and barely earned any pay while trying his best, would he be shit? Would he suck? Would he be bad?
Did you know that watching someone get abused and mistreated makes your brain react similarly to the brain of the person being abused?cheezstik wrote:
Being realistic, yes, he would suck, he would be bad. Ofc you wouldn't tell him that or make fun of him for that, cos that is a much more serious, important topic, and you would come off as insensitive and a dick for that, since real life in general is much harder and more serious than being good at a game, and not even a competitive game at that, osu is more for fun than the games with e-sports communities and people making a living off of them. I couldn't really give a shit if someone told me I'm bad at a game, but I can see how someone like that hobo might be upset if you called him bad for his situation.
Tl;dr games (or at least osu and other non competitive games) and being bad at them don't matter, having a good job and a home and shit IRL does.