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Cerulean Veyron

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Cerulean Veyron 2015-04-02T12:48:33+00:00

Hi, ticket used from my queue~ Sorry for some delay.

~~ouch, too much yellow, my monitor is gonna explode yellow.~~

[> General <]

- waow

[> Beginner <]

01:14:269 (1,1) - Might no be stacked here, so stack that?
02:11:869 (2,3) - You haven't done this on the previous parts, so i guess you should remake this rhythm as 02:09:126 (1) - .
- Nice.

[> Easy <]

00:01:584 (1,2) - What spacing did you use here? It looked like between 0.6x or 0.7x.
00:07:069 (1,3) - Not important, but stack these?
00:24:212 (2,3,1) - You could've made a better symmetry pattern here.
00:30:384 (2) - This pattern would look better, if you move this slider (2) on x:360|y:92, or closer to it. Watch the spacing after it.
00:53:698 (1,2,3) - Mind you check the spacing here? looks a bit different.
01:07:412 (1) - You maybe could recurve this to make a bit neater, delete the current slider point, and add a new one.
01:30:726 (2,3,1) - Not important, but i prefer a triangle formation here.
01:59:526 (1) - Add clap on tail?
02:07:755 (1) - ^
02:09:812 (3,2) - Swap the clap hitsound, might sound better...
- Some pattern got placement a bit weird. But it looks okay~

[> Normal <]

00:06:384 (5,6,1) - check your spacing~
00:22:155 (3,1) - Recorrect blanket?
00:30:384 (3,4,1) - Are you planning on symmetry here? or.. not?
00:46:841 (3,4) - Recorrect blanket? might not be important..
01:01:241 (4,1) - Spacing~
01:15:641 (1) - Kinda weird sliderpoint placements, are you trying to make a G formation? :3
01:38:955 (3,3) - Is this overlap on purpose?
01:49:241 (3,4) - I prefer Ctrl + G on this rhythm, instead of a downbeat. It'd sound better than the current one.
02:00:898 (1) - Another weird sliderpoint placements, maybe you could try a symmetry here? o.o
02:02:269 (1,2,3) - Is this pattern on purpose? or planning to make Asymmetry?
02:05:012 (1,2,3,1) - Recorrect a bit of diamond formation?
- Almost the same comment as before, but this time, it's the sliderpoints...

[> Hard <]

00:04:669 (1,2) - Recorrect blanket? or not planning to? just as 00:05:184 (3,4) -
00:20:269 (4,5) - Well, instead of stacking, try somewhere else for better playstyle movements.
00:49:412 (6,7) - Symmetry?
00:50:955 (1,2,3) - Recorrect a few blankets here, i can see that.
00:52:155 (4,5,6) - Same as 00:49:412 (6,7) -, kinda like ^
01:08:098 (4,5) - I guess you should remake both of these sliders as the same sliding position, for improving flow and recorrecting double blanket.
01:55:755 (3) - I prefer a curved slider here, this pattern would look odd without it.
01:58:841 (3,4,1) - What with the spacing here?
- Some issues... but it gets perfect when further playing.

... I'm tired... e_e

I like the custom hitsounds you made, Good luck anyway~ ...

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-04-04T18:42:56+00:00

Gray Veyron wrote:
Hi, ticket used from my queue~ Sorry for some delay. Hi there thank you for coming owo/ Likewise sorry for my late reply.

~~ouch, too much yellow, my monitor is gonna explode yellow.~~YELLOW
[> General <]
- waow
woaw

[> Beginner <]
01:14:269 (1,1) - Might no be stacked here, so stack that? Fixed with the magic of copypaste + hitsound
02:11:869 (2,3) - You haven't done this on the previous parts, so i guess you should remake this rhythm as 02:09:126 (1) - . It'll be left as is for now
- Nice. : O.. !
[> Easy <]
00:01:584 (1,2) - What spacing did you use here? It looked like between 0.6x or 0.7x. It's .7x?
00:07:069 (1,3) - Not important, but stack these? Stack fixed.
00:24:212 (2,3,1) - You could've made a better symmetry pattern here. Not sure what you mean by “Better” since I think it's awesomely cool as-is (in other words: I have no clue how I'd make it better), so no change.
00:30:384 (2) - This pattern would look better, if you move this slider (2) on x:360|y:92, or closer to it. Watch the spacing after it. That indeed looks better done and spacing watched as well
00:53:698 (1,2,3) - Mind you check the spacing here? looks a bit different. Ah you're right it was somehow .6 between 1 and 2, fixed.
01:07:412 (1) - You maybe could recurve this to make a bit neater, delete the current slider point, and add a new one. Ooo okay fixed
01:30:726 (2,3,1) - Not important, but i prefer a triangle formation here. Attempted to fix triangle hopefully it is a good triangle now.
01:59:526 (1) - Add clap on tail? There was already a clap but changed it to soft clap since I guess that's what you mean yes
02:07:755 (1) - ^ Okie dokie
02:09:812 (3,2) - Swap the clap hitsound, might sound better... Indeed I'll do that
- Some pattern got placement a bit weird. But it looks okay~ Hooray Easy least modded difficulty overall but it's still okay yayyyy
[> Normal <]
00:06:384 (5,6,1) - check your spacing~ Checked? owo?
00:22:155 (3,1) - Recorrect blanket? Slight change.
00:30:384 (3,4,1) - Are you planning on symmetry here? or.. not? Y-yes? Is it messed up somehow? oAo;
00:46:841 (3,4) - Recorrect blanket? might not be important.. Fixed it~
01:01:241 (4,1) - Spacing~ Slight .03 distance space change fixed owo~
01:15:641 (1) - Kinda weird sliderpoint placements, are you trying to make a G formation? :3 They get the job done :3
01:38:955 (3,3) - Is this overlap on purpose? No now it's fixed owo;
01:49:241 (3,4) - I prefer Ctrl + G on this rhythm, instead of a downbeat. It'd sound better than the current one. Fixed this section up now~
02:00:898 (1) - Another weird sliderpoint placements, maybe you could try a symmetry here? o.o Fixed up to make less strange ovo/
02:02:269 (1,2,3) - Is this pattern on purpose? or planning to make Asymmetry? Yea it's intentional
02:05:012 (1,2,3,1) - Recorrect a bit of diamond formation? Yes ok fixed done~
- Almost the same comment as before, but this time, it's the sliderpoints...
[> Hard <]
00:04:669 (1,2) - Recorrect blanket? or not planning to? just as 00:05:184 (3,4) - Recorrected uwu
00:20:269 (4,5) - Well, instead of stacking, try somewhere else for better playstyle movements. I couldn't figure out any other placement that would be better so no change
00:49:412 (6,7) - Symmetry? Oh yes it can be fixed for nicer symmetry owo
00:50:955 (1,2,3) - Recorrect a few blankets here, i can see that. Fixed
00:52:155 (4,5,6) - Same as 00:49:412 (6,7) -, kinda like ^ Also fixed methinks
01:08:098 (4,5) - I guess you should remake both of these sliders as the same sliding position, for improving flow and recorrecting double blanket. ?! QAQ I had fixed these did I forget to save and update properly the fix is goneee... refixed. (I hope?!)
01:55:755 (3) - I prefer a curved slider here, this pattern would look odd without it. Tried lots of different ways to have a curved slider instead but none of them really looked that good to me/or would be close enough to having it blanket (4) that it would be constantly mistaken for a failed attempt at that, in the end no change.
01:58:841 (3,4,1) - What with the spacing here? Something from a weird change I failed to notice, fixed, maybe.
- Some issues... but it gets perfect when further playing. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
... I'm tired... e_e Sleep well oAo/

I like the custom hitsounds you made Thank you! 'w', Good luck anyway~ ...Thank you very much for the lucks and the modmod owo/

Pheria

Pheria 2015-04-19T02:18:55+00:00

Hi! I'm going to just mod your difficulties (Beginner, Easy, Normal, Hard). These are only suggestions (based on what I think would make the map better) and should be taken as such! Thanks! c:

[Beginner]
00:48:212 (2) - Maybe extend this slider once more or add another note at 00:50:269
01:07:412 (1) - Same as above, extend the slider once more or add another note at 01:09:469
01:10:155 (2) - This should be a slider or another note after it I dunno
02:13:241 (3) - Maybe should be a tad farther away from end of last slider

[Easy]
00:19:412 (2) - Clap here (at the end)?
00:21:469 (3) - Another clap? I don't know. I feel as if the claps should remain consistent throughout the whole "section."
01:43:069 (1) - Weird slider. But it's even (symmetrical) so I guess it's alright.

[Normal]
00:09:812 (1) - I think the spinner should last until 00:12:212, but then again it may not give enough time for the player to reposition their aim, this is considerable
01:14:269 (1) - Maybe add a note after this slider (on 01:15:298 ) to fill up the emptiness
02:01:584 (2) - You can either make this a slider (ending at 02:02:926 ) or put another note after it; sorry I just don't like emptiness like this
02:02:784 (2) - Don't know if this note should be here in a Normal diff, but it's not bad
02:11:869 (1) - Beautiful

[Hard]
01:09:298 (4) - I feel like the slider should be here instead of where the slider is at 01:09:469 (5) because the vocal's vowel starts there; you can just switch them in terms of song time and then manipulate their position as you see fit.
01:53:184 (3) - This (as well as the slider after it) has the same issue as above; the slider doesn't start on the lyric, you should swap the slider and circle (and then move them around as you see fit) so that the slider goes well with the vocals.
01:56:784 (1) - A long slider like this one isn't probably the best way to cover three syllables. Maybe halve the slider length and have it repeat?
01:58:841 (3) - Make this a slider because it's a bit empty afterwards.
02:01:584 (5) - You should make this a slider as well to remove the emptiness after it.

That's about it (for your diffs)! Your hitsounds are nice (especially on Hard) and I think it's a great map with nice sliders. ; u ;

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-04-29T23:52:20+00:00

Pheria wrote:
Hi! I'm going to just mod your difficulties (Beginner, Easy, Normal, Hard). These are only suggestions (based on what I think would make the map better) and should be taken as such! Thanks! c: Thank you, and sorry for my unusually late reply! uwu

[Beginner]
Beginner is out of town for reservations a.k.a. remap, so no applying of the mod for this diff. Sorry :c I will keep all suggestions in consideration though o/

[Easy]
00:19:412 (2) - Clap here (at the end)? Yah alright that works better for this section to have it soft instead
00:21:469 (3) - Another clap? I don't know. I feel as if the claps should remain consistent throughout the whole "section." ^ doot doot
01:43:069 (1) - Weird slider. But it's even (symmetrical) so I guess it's alright. Symmetry slider \o/

[Normal]
00:09:812 (1) - I think the spinner should last until 00:12:212, but then again it may not give enough time for the player to reposition their aim, this is considerable Yeah definitely not enough time (I know I'd hate this map when I used to play normals if there was so little recovery time hehe)
01:14:269 (1) - Maybe add a note after this slider (on 01:15:298 ) to fill up the emptiness After much modification to the following to fit it since it's so needed, done.
02:01:584 (2) - You can either make this a slider (ending at 02:02:926 ) or put another note after it; sorry I just don't like emptiness like this I can see where you're coming from but I really feel this part is better left as is to give that, hm, breath before the last spurt feel (and have a small note break where the small kiai break is too ye)
02:02:784 (2) - Don't know if this note should be here in a Normal diff, but it's not bad It happens a few other times should be good left as is ye
02:11:869 (1) - Beautiful Snail~ /o/

[Hard]
01:09:298 (4) - I feel like the slider should be here instead of where the slider is at 01:09:469 (5) because the vocal's vowel starts there; you can just switch them in terms of song time and then manipulate their position as you see fit. Will leave as is since I think it sounds more like a yo-OOO and want to emphasize the OOO more
01:53:184 (3) - This (as well as the slider after it) has the same issue as above; the slider doesn't start on the lyric, you should swap the slider and circle (and then move them around as you see fit) so that the slider goes well with the vocals. ^
01:56:784 (1) - A long slider like this one isn't probably the best way to cover three syllables. Maybe halve the slider length and have it repeat? Took much fiddling did something different hopefully it's goodo
01:58:841 (3) - Make this a slider because it's a bit empty afterwards. ^ adjusted these two together
02:01:584 (5) - You should make this a slider as well to remove the emptiness after it.(see normal)

That's about it (for your diffs)! Your hitsounds are nice (especially on Hard) and I think it's a great map with nice sliders. ; u ; Thank ye for giving your first post to this lil ol' map of mine ;w;

Asfand

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Asfand 2015-05-12T17:08:54+00:00

Hello!

Thanks for using my queue

[General]

Maybe add a spinner in the beginner and easy difficulties so that number one farmers have something to compete over
Really high quality mapset!
Consider mapping the breaks in the harder difficulties Insane+

[Beginner]

all is fine in my eyes

[Easy]

01:07:412 (1) - have this note so that it could puzzle in with the start of this slider 01:04:669 (3) - http://puu.sh/hKHbr/89d03ed6e4.jpg
01:51:298 (1) - ^ but puzzle with 01:48:555 (1) -
02:11:869 (3) - if you want this type of shape maybe have the start blanket 02:11:184 (2) -. Although I would maybe have a completely different shape because its the last slider of the map. (like you've done in normal)

[Normal]

00:20:784 (1) - move x=141 y=185 (turn off grid snap)
00:20:955 (2) - move x=314 y = 94
00:24:898 (3) - move x=128 y=96
01:29:355 (1) - move x=56 y=256
01:30:726 (3) - move x=248 y=256
01:32:784 (2,3) - have these two follow eachother to keep flow http://puu.sh/hKI33/0926083369.jpg
01:34:155 (4,1) - same (move 1 a bit down or change position of slider end 4)
01:37:584 (1,2,3) - flow ^
01:53:698 (2) - move x=320 y=96

[Hardl]

00:12:898 (1) - move piece to center after spinner, more intuitive, I see that you have linked it to the next combo, but I don't see the purpose of it they don't make the same sound.
00:13:241 (2) - really not feeling this slider maybe turn it to a rever slider like this? http://puu.sh/hKIq9/269a445544.jpg
02:07:412 (6) - maybe flip this like this instead http://puu.sh/hKIMm/474c72a125.jpg because the sound goes higher in pitch

[oko's Insane]

Sightread replay http://puu.sh/hKJkE/f49217cc2c.osr
00:07:755 (4,5) - fix blanket
00:09:126 (3,1) - ^
00:11:526 (2,3) - ^
00:11:526 (2) - consider ctrl+g the last piece of this combo to signalize change in song pace, would make the section more interesting
since this flows clockwise 00:56:441 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - having this flow counterclockwise would be very cool 00:57:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
01:01:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same concept

[WOLLEY]

Sightread replay http://puu.sh/hKJl8/6f92656a18.osr
00:01:926 (2) - ctrl+g
00:03:298 (2) - ^
00:04:669 (2) - ^
00:11:526 (2) - ^ (you can decide to ignore all above and just do it to this, same suggestion as in oko's insane, however I think changing all of them is better)
00:20:698 (7) - missing note?
00:20:869 (2) - ^
00:21:041 (3) - ^
00:21:555 (5) - ^
00:21:726 (6) - ^
01:00:898 (3) - ctrl+g need to move 01:00:812 (2) - aswell
01:10:155 (1) - ctrl+g
01:49:069 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5) - very cool
01:57:469 (3) - did this by a mistake, looks pretty cool though to have a long note here, take it for what its worth haha http://puu.sh/hKKLi/d6380da515.jpg

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2015-05-12T17:15:15+00:00

I SHOULD REALLY GET TO FIND ANOTHER HITSOUND IN ORDER TO POST THE NEONAT REPLY

neonat wrote:
oko's Insane

wth man, the custom finish.........even the default soft clap sounds nicer in this song ➥ asdf asdf will see if i find something nicer ASDF

00:12:555 (1) - soft finish instead of all that other sounds on the start of the slider ✔ whistle has meaning so stays but soft finish yes
00:23:526 (1) - the soft finish instead of Normal makes a clearer impression here, and should be the choice to use instead ✔ a
00:34:498 (1) - soft finish instead of the whistle ✔ no, both~
00:45:469 (1) - the soft finish instead of Normal makes a clearer impression here, and should be the choice to use instead ✔ s
00:56:441 (1) - soft finish instead of all the other sounds ✔ soft finish and whistle
01:07:412 (1) - same thing as 00:45:469 (1) ✔ d
01:29:355 (1) - ^ ✔ f
01:40:326 (1) - ^ ✔ j
01:51:298 (1) - ^ ✔ k
02:02:269 (1) - ^ ✔ l
01:18:041 (4) - soft finish instead of Normal for the slider end ✔ ~~wut sliderend i assume you mean circle after~~ was looking at wrong diff whole time w/e hitsoundcopier hi
02:13:069 (6) - ^ ✔ ;

Yellow spelt backwards

Same thing about that custom finish, there are some things that should just be left unused : ( ➥ : (

Everything said on Insane, applies here

01:34:069 - should still follow the triplet rhythm here
01:36:812 - ^
01:59:526 (1,2,3) - having these 3 the same spacing would be pretty fitting for the music here, where the change in spacing or showing some difference would be between 01:59:869 (3,4)
✔ did all 3

Here are diffs + the hitsound change

thanks~

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-05-12T19:02:58+00:00

Asfano wrote:
Hello!

Thanks for using my queue Thank you for modding uwu

[General]
Maybe add a spinner in the beginner and easy difficulties so that number one farmers have something to compete over As one prone to competing for scores on easies with spinners myself I understand this but at the same time I don't really think there's anywhere they would really fit :c
Really high quality mapset! Thanks! /o/
Consider mapping the breaks in the harder difficulties Insane+
[Beginner]
all is fine in my eyes /o/
[Easy]
01:07:412 (1) - have this note so that it could puzzle in with the start of this slider 01:04:669 (3) - http://puu.sh/hKHbr/89d03ed6e4.jpg Oooh alright done-o~
01:51:298 (1) - ^ but puzzle with 01:48:555 (1) - I'd rather not since it's the start of a new section/barely visible unless you have snaking sliders off o:
02:11:869 (3) - if you want this type of shape maybe have the start blanket 02:11:184 (2) -. Although I would maybe have a completely different shape because its the last slider of the map. (like you've done in normal) I think I'll change it to be similar to normal then~
[Normal]
00:20:784 (1) - move x=141 y=185 (turn off grid snap) v
00:20:955 (2) - move x=314 y = 94 These two blankets are better left as they are
00:24:898 (3) - move x=128 y=96 v
01:29:355 (1) - move x=56 y=256 v
01:30:726 (3) - move x=248 y=256 I went through and fixed all of these blankets, though not necessarily with the points specified, because I want to maintain the DS as much as possible~
01:32:784 (2,3) - have these two follow eachother to keep flow http://puu.sh/hKI33/0926083369.jpg Okay I've changed this
01:34:155 (4,1) - same (move 1 a bit down or change position of slider end 4) Managed to fix I think
01:37:584 (1,2,3) - flow ^ Okie dokie~
01:53:698 (2) - move x=320 y=96 Moved but to a different point
[Hardl]
00:12:898 (1) - move piece to center after spinner, more intuitive, I see that you have linked it to the next combo, but I don't see the purpose of it they don't make the same sound. Since how large one spins depends on the player I'd like to keep it at midway-ish
00:13:241 (2) - really not feeling this slider maybe turn it to a rever slider like this? http://puu.sh/hKIq9/269a445544.jpg That'd be visually empty and a bit too intense for post-spinner in my opinion ya
02:07:412 (6) - maybe flip this like this instead http://puu.sh/hKIMm/474c72a125.jpg because the sound goes higher in pitch I didn't change this the way you suggested but changed the overall section for a more upward feel

Okoratu wrote:
Finally replied to neonat's mod

Will update as soon as I can connect to BSS

Frey

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Frey 2015-05-13T09:16:50+00:00

Wow, a suitable and nice set of skin! Take my star

something you have to notice

In Normal, using 1.25 sv in kiai is a bit risky, I strongly recommend you to use sv 1.0
The same in Nomral, 00:11:869 the green line is unused, please delete it
In oko's Insane, 00:23:526 the green line is unused, please delete it

General

Unify the 'Widescreen Support' in Setup

Beginner
00:16:669 - There is no reason to add a finish, cuz you didn't put finish at 00:13:926 、00:19:412 and 00:22:155
01:37:584 (2) - You added some clap in 01:29:355 (1,2,1) , why don't you add some there?
02:11:869 (2,3) - plz use 0.6 ds to unify it

Easy
00:28:326 (2) - firstly, move it to x210 y75 to unify the ds, then move 00:29:012 (1) - to x130 y154 to improve blanket
00:55:755 (3) - move it to x272 y192 to unify the ds

Normal
00:19:412 (3) - move it to x308 y228 to be symmetry (and you need slight adjustment)
00:50:955 (1) - move it to x376 y96 to unify the ds
00:54:384 (2) - the same as above
01:15:298 (2,1,2,1,2,1) - why suddenly use 0.9 ds?
You got me, I thought some 'ring' hitsound was actually in the music

Hard
00:57:812 (6) - add NC? Apparently The lyric is going to next sentence
01:03:297 (6) - the same as above
01:06:041 (4) - the same as above
01:38:612 - if you were not on purpose, then this clap is unnecessary
01:41:698 (6) - NC？
01:47:184 (7) - NC？

The rest diffs are fine. Good luck

Last edited by Frey 2015-05-14T01:14:32+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-05-13T17:55:57+00:00

Frey wrote:
Wow, a suitable and nice set of skin! Take my star Yay, Thank You!

something you have to notice
In Normal, using 1.25 sv in kiai is a bit risky, I strongly recommend you to use sv 1.0 It's normal I think that should be fine how are we to teach them to be able to anticipate changes like these if they only become present in hard and onwards ;-;
The same in Nomral, 00:11:869 the green line is useless, please delete it Kk
In oko's Insane, 00:23:526 the green line is useless, please delete it

General
Unify the 'Widescreen Support' in Setup Okie Dokie how are you the first mod to point this out in 10 pages wot thank you

Beginner
00:16:669 - There is no reason to add a finish, cuz you didn't put finish at 00:13:926 、00:19:412 and 00:22:155 How did that get in there--- fixed~
01:37:584 (2) - You added some clap in 01:29:355 (1,2,1) , why don't you add some there? Okay and also added some to other pieces in this section for the sake of the clapclapclapclapclapclap in the music~
02:11:869 (2,3) - plz use 0.6 ds to unify it Fix'd

Easy
00:28:326 (2) - firstly, move it to x210 y75 to unify the ds, then move 00:29:012 (1) - to x130 y154 to improve blanket Fixed, but when moving (1) around changed it a different way to avoid it having DS issues with 00:30:384 (2) -
00:55:755 (3) - move it to x272 y192 to unify the ds Done~

Normal
Divided it for you after spending 10 minutes before realizing "oh hey this is where the mod for normal is kk" (t'was very confusing looking a the suggestions with easy open
00:19:412 (3) - move it to x308 y228 to be symmetry (and you need slight adjustment) Fixed with my own points for blanket's sake
00:50:955 (1) - move it to x376 y96 to unify the ds Fixed with different points so it wouldn't get too crowded with proceeding pattern
00:54:384 (2) - the same as above Fixed
01:15:298 (2,1,2,1,2,1) - why suddenly use 0.9 ds? ] I wish I knew how that happened but fixed~
You got me, I thought some 'ring' hitsound was actually in the music Mwuahahaha, but it is~

Hard
No to the NCs, since a.) consistent pattern and b.) there may be a slight pause in singing but according to the lyrics showing onscreen at least these are all considered to each be a whole piece.
00:57:812 (6) - add NC? Apparently The lyric is going to next sentence
01:03:297 (6) - the same as above
01:06:041 (4) - the same as above Okay to this one though since it's pre-kiai and divided into two lyrics video-wise. (like a warning: combo length is getting lower because map will get slightly harder?!)
01:38:612 - if you were not on purpose, then this clap is unnecessary Oops fixed thank you uwub
01:41:698 (6) - NC？
01:47:184 (7) - NC？

The rest diffs are fine. Good luck Thank you and thank you for modderingo~

Frey

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Frey 2015-05-14T01:17:30+00:00

Sorry, my bad. I didn't check it ;w;

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-05-14T04:24:30+00:00

Frey wrote:
Sorry, my bad. I didn't check it ;w;

It's alright, since it's all fixed up now~ o/

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2015-05-20T21:17:02+00:00

Hey Dorothy~!! NM from my queue. (<- I'll put all my links like that.)

Beginner~

00:12:555 (1) - Maybe for fun, you could try something like this. Turn on the background video in editor to help.
00:45:469 (1,2,1) - Generally, you shouldn't get close to stacking after one note. To fix this, I would change 1 so it's end is below 2, not next to 2.
01:32:098 (2,1,2) - Same as ^^^, I would try something like this: ss1 ss2

I like the sliders that this diff has to offer.

Easy~

00:07:069 (1,2,3) - Same thing about stacking. (It's really not that bad, but you just use it so much.) I'll leave how to fix it up to you.
00:18:041 - The NC should be here. Try this: ss1 ss2 ss3
00:22:155 (5,1) - Either this is supposed to be a question mark, or it isn't. If it is, then make it look more like a question mark, and if it isn't, then make it look less like a question mark.
00:25:584 (3,1,2) - Same thing about stacking, again. Blanket 3 between 2 and 1 for an easy fix.
00:33:126 (3) - Move the red tick to x-232 y-334 so it happens 00:33:812 - here.
00:46:841 (2) - ^^^ Same idea, just x-234 y-343. (You suddenly do it correctly 01:04:669 (3) - here and 01:10:155 (1) - here and basically throughout the rest of the map.)
02:11:869 (3) - I'd prefer this not to overlap itself so much.

Normal~

00:07:755 (2,3) - Ctrl+g. Three reasons: it improves the flow, solves the stacking thing, and is consistent with 00:08:441 (4,5,6) - this.
00:53:698 (1,2) - Are you sure you don't want to make these identical? It would look like this: ss1 ss2
01:10:155 (1,2) - Are you sure you don't want to make this symmetrical either? (It wouldn't impact the ds.)
01:38:955 (3) - I think the part on the top of this should be straight. Edit: straight as in following the x axis perfectly.

Another really cool slider diff.

Hard~

00:19:584 (2) - Try moving this to x-432 y-72.
00:50:955 (1,2,3) - The spacing here looks kinda bad.
01:00:554 (5) - I think you could make this have another blanket, like this. Reverse 7, then reshape it, then reverse it again.
01:29:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why are the hitsounds on the red ticks? Imo, it sounds pretty bad like that.
01:30:726 (4) - Spacing, either change the shape of 4 or move it back.
01:33:984 (5,6) - Fix blanket.
01:36:212 (6,7,8) - ^, try looking at it like this.
01:52:326 (5,6,1,2,3) - I think this would flow better if you reversed 1 and made 2 around x-208 y-84.

oko's Insane~

01:41:698 (1,2) - Move 1 a bit farther away from the green 3, like you did with 2 and 5.
That's all I could find. Good job with the 1/4 beat streams.

WOLLEY~

(Everything I say here is optional. )
00:18:212 (3) - I think 3 should be a tiny bit to the left.
00:21:984 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - This is supposed to be blanketing the orange 5, right? Look at this. Try making the pinkish 4 and 5 slightly lower.
01:38:784 (9,10,1,2) - 1 and 2 could be copy/pasted from 9 and 10. That would look nice.
01:49:926 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Same idea, except 3 and 4 could be copy/pasted from 1 and 2.
02:00:897 (1,2,3,4) - ^

Good Luck~!!

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-05-21T02:30:00+00:00

jonawaga wrote:
Hey Dorothy~!! NM from my queue. (<- I'll put all my links like that.) Yay for Yellow! \o/

Beginner~
00:12:555 (1) - Maybe for fun, you could try something like this. Turn on the background video in editor to help. Neat, that improves the original idea of it doing it quite a bit, applied! ^^
00:45:469 (1,2,1) - Generally, you shouldn't get close to stacking after one note. To fix this, I would change 1 so it's end is below 2, not next to 2. I see, changed this around a bit to fix that o/
01:32:098 (2,1,2) - Same as ^^^, I would try something like this: ss1 ss2 I see what you mean, but in this case it's more meant to be that way and I'd rather leave it the same
I like the sliders that this diff has to offer. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
Easy~
00:07:069 (1,2,3) - Same thing about stacking. (It's really not that bad, but you just use it so much.) I'll leave how to fix it up to you. Leaving this stack intact for dramatic buildupuru
00:18:041 - The NC should be here. Try this: ss1 ss2 ss3 In this case I'd prefer not to change the rhythm for the sake of the nc being one beat earlier where a slider currently ends, so no change.
00:22:155 (5,1) - Either this is supposed to be a question mark, or it isn't. If it is, then make it look more like a question mark, and if it isn't, then make it look less like a question mark. Fixed, I think.
00:25:584 (3,1,2) - Same thing about stacking, again. Blanket 3 between 2 and 1 for an easy fix. With the way it was changed around for fixing 4, this wouldn't really work so uhh
00:33:126 (3) - Move the red tick to x-232 y-334 so it happens 00:33:812 - here. Fixedsu~
00:46:841 (2) - ^^^ Same idea, just x-234 y-343. (You suddenly do it correctly 01:04:669 (3) - here and 01:10:155 (1) - here and basically throughout the rest of the map.) Let's just hope that means I realized my mistake! Fixed this, but with a different point to avoid the slider getting longer time wise/being too close to the next note
02:11:869 (3) - I'd prefer this not to overlap itself so much. Changed for less self-overlap~
Normal~
00:07:755 (2,3) - Ctrl+g. Three reasons: it improves the flow, solves the stacking thing, and is consistent with 00:08:441 (4,5,6) - this. Ok done diddly did o/
00:53:698 (1,2) - Are you sure you don't want to make these identical? It would look like this: ss1 ss2 00:54:384 (2,3) - I'd prefer to keep it these two the same ^^;
01:10:155 (1,2) - Are you sure you don't want to make this symmetrical either? (It wouldn't impact the ds.) Symmetry fixed~
01:38:955 (3) - I think the part on the top of this should be straight. Edit: straight as in following the x axis perfectly.Oops it was originally, fixed~!
Another really cool slider diff. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
Hard~
00:19:584 (2) - Try moving this to x-432 y-72. Tried something else instead
00:50:955 (1,2,3) - The spacing here looks kinda bad. Fixed I hope~
01:00:554 (5) - I think you could make this have another blanket, like this. Reverse 7, then reshape it, then reverse it again. Fixed! o/
01:29:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why are the hitsounds on the red ticks? Imo, it sounds pretty bad like that. I wanted it to go with the clapping on the red ticks in the song uwu
01:30:726 (4) - Spacing, either change the shape of 4 or move it back. Fixed the position of 4~
01:33:984 (5,6) - Fix blanket. Fixed! ^^
01:36:212 (6,7,8) - ^, try looking at it like this. I tried to fix it, but I'm uncertain whether I was looking at it as intended because for some reason just this one puush image refuses to load for me \:
01:52:326 (5,6,1,2,3) - I think this would flow better if you reversed 1 and made 2 around x-208 y-84.Woah nice idea, done! owo

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Good Luck~!! Thank you and thank you very much for modding!!

Mafumafu

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Mafumafu 2015-05-23T11:25:17+00:00

Come here for Kagamine Len :3 yellow yellow
and for your post at my queue

[Beginner]
00:07:069 (1) - Try to use this shape: http://puu.sh/hXrqH/4936863e61.jpg so as to make this slider more symmetrical.
02:06:384 (3) - Personally I think it is better to make it like wing-shape like this: http://puu.sh/hXryP/3d796d36db.jpg
02:11:869 (2) - Keep regular 0.6x DS here. It's 0.52 now.

[Easy]
01:00:555 (3) - This is too curve imo. Try to make it smoother.
01:15:641 (1) - Smoothen it, too.
OK diff, not that visual appealing tho

[Normal]
00:34:498 (1) - Replace it with just one single hitcircle to keep consistent with Beginner and Easy.
00:53:698 (1) - Make the shape of the slider same as 00:54:384 (2) - .
01:08:098 (2) - Try to use more smooth sliders ;w;
02:02:269 (1,3) - Make the shape of them same.
Very creative at the last part! Put up thousands of thumbs for this!

[Hard]
The gap between Normal and Hard is a little big imo.
00:34:498 (1) - Same comment as Normal. The curve points of this slider doesnt match with the music, either.
01:36:212 (6) - This slider is a little weird. Since you’ve used many 1/2 rhythms before, try to use the same things here, too.
02:13:241 (1) - Make it further from previous notes.

Other diffs are fine :3
Good luck!

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-05-23T22:18:34+00:00

Regraz wrote:
Come here for Kagamine Len :3 yellow yellow Yellow Yellow Len Len Hello thar thank you for modding~
and for your post at my queue but mostly the yellow right?

[Beginner]
00:07:069 (1) - Try to use this shape: http://puu.sh/hXrqH/4936863e61.jpg so as to make this slider more symmetrical. Done~
02:06:384 (3) - Personally I think it is better to make it like wing-shape like this: http://puu.sh/hXryP/3d796d36db.jpg I think I'll leave this as is to maintain similar bounce with 01:11:526 (3) - & 01:55:412 (3) -
02:11:869 (2) - Keep regular 0.6x DS here. It's 0.52 now. Oops! Fixed!

[Easy]
01:00:555 (3) - This is too curve imo. Try to make it smoother. Not positive exactly what you meant but I attempted changes to make it look nicer hopefully
01:15:641 (1) - Smoothen it, too. Smooth'd
OK diff, not that visual appealing tho Hmm I'll keep that in mind

[Normal]
00:34:498 (1) - Replace it with just one single hitcircle to keep consistent with Beginner and Easy. I wont change this since I really prefer to have it follow the vocals all the way to the end since it's a harder diff o/
00:53:698 (1) - Make the shape of the slider same as 00:54:384 (2) - . Ok it took some changes but managed to make it that way somehoww
01:08:098 (2) - Try to use more smooth sliders ;w; oki ;w;
02:02:269 (1,3) - Make the shape of them same. Alright shall doo
Very creative at the last part! Put up thousands of thumbs for this! owob

[Hard]
The gap between Normal and Hard is a little big imo. Will attempt to fix with further normal improvements.
00:34:498 (1) - Same comment as Normal. The curve points of this slider doesnt match with the music, either. (see normal) + the slider is made to go with the pitches in the song
01:36:212 (6) - This slider is a little weird. Since you’ve used many 1/2 rhythms before, try to use the same things here, too. I'd like to keep it the same since in the song the vocals hold a bit longer than usual, too owo/
02:13:241 (1) - Make it further from previous notes. Changed (? though not sure if done in the way you meant)

Other diffs are fine :3
Good luck! Thank you !

Thank you very much for modding~
Will updoot with the changes soon~

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2015-06-08T21:49:45+00:00

~~Currently modding it, please, do not reply... yet.~~
Done

Beginner

I will be honest. This difficulty shouldn't be here. I don't see the point of placing a circle every 5 seconds. It makes the map look boring and without any kind of reason. You also made this map with AR0! I mean... W H A T?
EDIT: You should remove this. I've just read Orokatu's reply and now I will explain you this reason. I was avoiding making my wall-text mods as no one seems to read them, but here I go:

The only thing that these kind of diffs create's boredom and anxiety. I don't see the clear point on placing 1 circle every 5 seconds when a "higher" difficulty (like an Easy, in this case), would be doing the SAME function.
On the other hand, in the case you want to maintain it, you should use more reasonable stats, like "2,0" (you should use "3,0" in the Easy diff, then... which I STRONGLY recommend).

Easy

General

Use all the stats in "3,0". In the current one's too low and is not necessary.
Other than that, I think the difficulty is okay. However, I don't agree in the point that you are ignoring a lot of beats and placing one object every certain amount of time through the diff and right in the end you start mapping a lot of things, making the rest of the map quite contradictable.

Normal

Rhythm and Gameplay

00:55:755 (4) - Rotate it by 25° in the Selection Centre!
01:09:126 (1) - This slider last for sooo long! Try adding a circle at that point and then a slider from 01:09:469 - to 01:09:812 - . Avoid mapping 2 sounds in the same object! Also... do NOT NC that slider. Why would you do that? Is playing the same sound than the previous one at 01:07:412 (1,2) - .

Hard

General

HP -0.5 this will compensate much more with the mapset.

Rhythm and Gameplay

01:01:241 (7) - Try finishing it earlier and add a circle at 01:01:584 - . Do not mix two sounds in one slider because it will sound quite bad.
01:13:584 (4) - ^ add the circle at 01:13:930 - .
01:36:212 (6) - ^ You're overextending this slider way too much. Why don't you try to finish it earlier and make something different for the last part? As I said above, don't put two sounds in the same object.

oko's Insane

General

AR -0.3 Just a suggestion!

Rhythm and Gameplay

00:19:755 (3) - I just don't like this stack right here. I mean, the pattern is okay... but...
00:27:984 (2) - Maybe Ctrl+G here? Would look better!
01:54:041 (1) - ^
00:46:069 (3) - This seems to be as an unnecessary circle. There's no audible beat, so why would you place an object?
00:50:612 (5,6) - Maybe you could avoid creating a stack right here and make something similar with what you did with 00:48:041 (6) - . So just move them a bit to the right/left and that would be amazing! You will have to do the same with (1,2) of course.
00:56:441 (1) - As you have been placing non-stacked sliders throughout the map, it'd be better if you just move this slider as well. This will also avoid you to follow the same pattern all over the map. It will also make this part easier to read with HD, as it will not be stacked with a reverse slider.
01:07:412 (1) -
01:40:326 (1) -
01:51:298 (1) -
02:02:269 (1) -
00:59:526 (2) - This sounds so akward. There're two audible beats right here and one of them is being ignored, which, surprisingly, is the most important one. Finish it at 00:59:698 - with Whistle and then add a circle at 00:59:784 - without hitsounds, since is a really really tiny sound. I know that you are trying to follow with the vocals and all that. However, this will sound even better than yours.
00:59:869 (3) -
01:00:555 (1) -
01:00:898 (2) -
01:43:069 (1,2,3) -
01:44:441 (1,2) -

Hitsounding

Sounds good to me!

WOLLEY

General

00:51:384 - Unnecessary green line.

Rhythm and Gameplay

00:01:841 - You're missing several beats through the difficulty. These beats can, of course, be omittable, that's for sure! However, I do strongly recommend you to place at least some of them because they're audible, and they will sound cooler if placed.
00:02:526 -
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00:17:012 (3) - Ctrl+G for better flow with the current pattern.
01:54:041 (1) - ^
00:23:183 (10,11,12) - I don't think that the continued stream works that good in this situation, since there's quite a constant sound right here. It'd be better if you replace it for a slider, or something similar, because it'd sound nicer!
00:28:841 (7) - As you are not placing double-notes in this part, it'd be better if you just move this circle into other place.
00:29:612 (4) - There's nothing right here, so this is overmapped. Could you please remove it? Isn't the case of 00:15:212 (8) - where there IS an audible beat.
00:46:069 (3) - ^
00:48:812 (3) - This is actually sounds good.
01:30:641 (7) - ^
01:40:326 (1) - A stack doesn't seem to work, to be honest. It looks quite unpolished and you will be (somehow) breaking the pattern you use throughout the map. Try placing it at x112 y136
01:41:955 (2) - Try placing it at x376 y128. Basically in the middle of the sliders.
01:49:755 (9,10) - Aaaah, the stack here is so annoying + there's a different spacing in 01:49:840 (10,1) - these circles compared to the others.
02:00:726 (9,10) - ^

Hitsounding

01:30:555 (6) - I don't know if Finish would be the best option. Maybe Whistle would be even better.

Last edited by Yuii- 2015-06-09T05:26:17+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2015-06-09T01:43:07+00:00

wha5

will reply anyways to tell you some stuff and because i won't apply mods to the Wolley diff anymore for the reasoning mentioned below

I decided I'll be better off remapping Wolley or i'll end up hating it but here's the mod reply anyways.
If you have any questions about the insane feel free to add it to your post I'll just look at it again once you're done and answer any other things that popped up to your mind.

Yuii- wrote:
Currently modding it, please, do not reply... yet.

oko's Insane

General

AR -0.3 Just a suggestion! ➥ I think AR 8.8 works well enough

Rhythm and Gameplay

00:19:755 (3) - I just don't like this stack right here. I mean, the pattern is okay... but... ➥ can you put into words why you dislike it, doing that might make me dislike this as well and thus encourage me to change it
00:27:984 (2) - Maybe Ctrl+G here? Would look better! ➥ while i do admit that it looks better it also breaks the movement and spacing from 00:27:984 (2,3) - entirely
01:54:041 (1) - ^ ➥ doing this one would create a uhh too edgy zig zag motion for this diff
00:46:069 (3) - This seems to be as an unnecessary circle. There's no audible beat, so why would you place an object? ➥ I explained that below since i started answering Wolley first
00:50:612 (5,6) - Maybe you could avoid creating a stack right here and make something similar with what you did with 00:48:041 (6) - . So just move them a bit to the right/left and that would be amazing! You will have to do the same with (1,2) of course. ✘ I'm actually quite fond of how this pattern works and think the back forth motion plays quite nicely so I don't think it poses any problem at all
00:56:441 (1) - As you have been placing non-stacked sliders throughout the map, it'd be better if you just move this slider as well. This will also avoid you to follow the same pattern all over the map. It will also make this part easier to read with HD, as it will not be stacked with a reverse slider. ✔ that plays much more smoothly so i did all these - idk what I've been thinking
01:07:412 (1) -
01:40:326 (1) -
01:51:298 (1) -
02:02:269 (1) -
00:59:526 (2) - This sounds so akward. There're two audible beats right here and one of them is being ignored, which, surprisingly, is the most important one. Finish it at 00:59:698 - with Whistle and then add a circle at 00:59:784 - without hitsounds, since is a really really tiny sound. I know that you are trying to follow with the vocals and all that. However, this will sound even better than yours. ➥ seems like you only disagree with my pattern choice for these, I mapped these with the aim to be easier than what WOLLEY had at this part. My first option was spamming 1/2 sliders which i soon found to be a boring choice since most of the map is based on them, Circles were ruled out since this part in WOLLEY uses 1/2 sliders with an 1/4 circle inbetween. So I wanted to make this one not more dense than what the other diff had but didn't want to spam 1/2 sliders for them either so this is the result, maybe this helps you understanding my level of reasoning behind this pattern
00:59:869 (3) -
01:00:555 (1) -
01:00:898 (2) -
01:43:069 (1,2,3) -
01:44:441 (1,2) -
Hitsounding

Sounds good to me! ➥ why do you notice nothing in the diff that copied hitsounds from the other one i am confus se d
changed the same stuff i changed in wolley here as well

WOLLEY

General

00:51:384 - Unnecessary green line. ➥ did you break what i planned to hitsound there dorothy lel somehow i get your spooky sounds now when i listen to that instead of the whistle i wanted

Rhythm and Gameplay

00:01:841 - You're missing several beats through the difficulty. These beats can, of course, be omittable, that's for sure! However, I do strongly recommend you to place at least some of them because they're audible, and they will sound cooler if placed.
00:02:526 -
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00:11:441 -
00:12:126 - ✘ that's... the point of this intro, there's actually a lot more background noise i ignore because it'd lead to nonsense rhythms

00:17:012 (3) - Ctrl+G for better flow with the current pattern.
01:54:041 (1) - ^ ➥ for those 2 idk i feel like either works in both cases and in the 2nd case it kind of destroys movement towards / into the next pattern will see on the first one again once i'm actually awake

00:23:183 (10,11,12) - I don't think that the continued stream works that good in this situation, since there's quite a constant sound right here. It'd be better if you replace it for a slider, or something similar, because it'd sound nicer! ➥ it's hitsounded and mapped to the constant drum stream that's going on all over this so idk how to explain or change it to something because i don't quite see the problem

00:28:841 (7) - As you are not placing double-notes in this part, it'd be better if you just move this circle into other place. ➥ uhhh i can see your point but you are the first one to be annoyed by that and it's kind of weird how you didn't point out 00:47:869 (5,6) - which i made to be consistent with that one in the next section by len

00:29:612 (4) - There's nothing right here, so this is overmapped. Could you please remove it? Isn't the case of 00:15:212 (8) - where there IS an audible beat. ➥ I could quote garven saying "listen to the song more closely please." But oh fuck i already did ok so here's the thing slow down audio to like 50% and then listen to 00:26:612 (2,3) - the slider here is not randomly extended, the vocal lands on that weird blue tick and forms a doublet there (woudl actually make nice for taiko diffs damn) and in this point i decided to map the following: 00:29:526 (3) - the constant 1/2 sound that's going on in the background 00:29:612 (4) - the v o c a l 00:29:698 (5) - the vocal, i hope that makes sense
00:46:069 (3) - ^ ➥ same
00:48:812 (3) - This is actually sounds good. ➥ I am confused now
01:30:641 (7) - ^ ➥ yes

01:40:326 (1) - A stack doesn't seem to work, to be honest. It looks quite unpolished and you will be (somehow) breaking the pattern you use throughout the map. Try placing it at x112 y136 ✔ idk point is valid so i did things to this and the following pattern to fit it in

01:41:955 (2) - Try placing it at x376 y128. Basically in the middle of the sliders. ➥ idk what i did ther but i did something to this dunno lasd;fj

01:49:755 (9,10) - Aaaah, the stack here is so annoying + there's a different spacing in 01:49:840 (10,1) - these circles compared to the others. ➥ judging this by looking at 01:49:840 (10) - i have no idea what's wrong because the whole thing seems to be proper 1.00x spacing o.o so uhh what's wrong with this one all i could think of would be the overall angle to be annoying
02:00:726 (9,10) - ➥ i get the feeling that these 2 objects are stacking in your ver but aren't in mine wot ^
Hitsounding

01:30:555 (6) - I don't know if Finish would be the best option. Maybe Whistle would be even better. ➥ i have no idea how or why i should break my whistlepattern for that

watever i changed the whistlepattern for this part in insane and wolley

seeing that over the course of 5 months after finishing the diff and then readjusting both kiai parts of it to fit my current mapping style shortly after
I now see a lot of things in the Wolley diff which I would like to do differently but can't because it would break the structure of the diff. In order to avoid something like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/440344&m=0 from making it into the ranked category while not really reflecting how i mapped at the time it got ranked at all
I would like to take some time redoing this diff with the suggestions you provided still in mind as I don't think modding this diff more will improve it on it's own so I'll have to get to work on this or I'll end up hating it after a few more mods

thanks for the suggestions though you could work on your explanations as to why patterns I used don't work well because I often times had the feeling that you just "didn't like this pattern but couldn't put into words why" and as i can't read minds or come up with conclusive reasoning as to why this pattern is bad because I made these 2 diffs I had difficulties understanding why these patterns are wrong or should be changed.

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-06-11T00:47:09+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
~~Currently modding it, please, do not reply... yet.~~
Done Mod reply is done too hello thar thank you for modding uwu

Beginner

I will be honest. This difficulty shouldn't be here. I don't see the point of placing a circle every 5 seconds. It makes the map look boring and without any kind of reason. You also made this map with AR0! I mean... W H A T? Woah wat I had it at 0.5 before when did it change how did I not notice aahh ;_;
EDIT: You should remove this. I've just read Orokatu's reply and now I will explain you this reason. I was avoiding making my wall-text mods as no one seems to read them, but here I go:

The only thing that these kind of diffs create's boredom and anxiety. I don't see the clear point on placing 1 circle every 5 seconds when a "higher" difficulty (like an Easy, in this case), would be doing the SAME function.
On the other hand, in the case you want to maintain it, you should use more reasonable stats, like "2,0" (you should use "3,0" in the Easy diff, then... which I STRONGLY recommend). Here I changed the stats slightly in order to make it more beginner friendly with higher stat magics. (Also known as, alright, I've raised the AR to a very specific 1.4 to minimize early clicking by players thinking "gotta click fast!"

Easy

General

Use all the stats in "3,0". In the current one's too low and is not necessary. No change to these settings since I do not think they are too low or unnecessary, and making them higher for the sake of being higher would interfere with the purposeful and hopefully successful progression of difficulty in the difficulties.
Other than that, I think the difficulty is okay. However, I don't agree in the point that you are ignoring a lot of beats and placing one object every certain amount of time through the diff and right in the end you start mapping a lot of things, making the rest of the map quite contradictable.

Normal

Rhythm and Gameplay

00:55:755 (4) - Rotate it by 25° in the Selection Centre! This looks better okay done dilly done
01:09:126 (1) - This slider last for sooo long! Try adding a circle at that point and then a slider from 01:09:469 - to 01:09:812 - . Avoid mapping 2 sounds in the same object! Also... do NOT NC that slider. Why would you do that? Is playing the same sound than the previous one at 01:07:412 (1,2) - . I changed the rhythm as suggested because it indeed fit better and matched latter similar parts more, but I did not remove the NC because that would be breaking the pattern still followed throughout the rest of the kiais.

Hard

General

HP -0.5 this will compensate much more with the mapset. ? Confused as to how ><

Rhythm and Gameplay
In the three cases in this section, I left these sliders as they were. They are meant to be following the way these syllables are held for longer in the vocals, and if I add hit circles where their current ends are it sounds strange since that's adding the same amount of strength to what are in my opinion weaker sounds.
01:01:241 (7) - Try finishing it earlier and add a circle at 01:01:584 - . Do not mix two sounds in one slider because it will sound quite bad.
01:13:584 (4) - ^ add the circle at 01:13:930 - .
01:36:212 (6) - ^ You're overextending this slider way too much. Why don't you try to finish it earlier and make something different for the last part? As I said above, don't put two sounds in the same object.

Thank you for the mod, the explanations were very helpful and even if I did not apply all what you specifically mentioned I'll be sure to keep these things in mind owo/

Okoratu wrote:
➥ did you break what i planned to hitsound there dorothy lel somehow i get your spooky sounds now when i listen to that instead of the whistle i wanted

o ok oko it looks like I did and I'll be sure to de-spookify it soon.

DahplA

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DahplA 2015-06-11T05:36:03+00:00

Hi, DahplA here posting from Jloughman14's and DahplA's Modding Team. This is a response in regards to this request. Please be sure to vote here on how helpful our mod was.

Sorry for the wait. Exam study took priority.

WOLLEY

00:21:298 (4) - I don't think a triple sound goes here. I think the previous patterns where you've had them on the downbeat and in the middle worked out the best. I think if you want to do something like that, the pattern in oko's Insane works better. You should use the same pattern for both of your difficulties.
01:12:555 (7) - I think this note is in an odd position. The pitch goes really high, so I think positioning it higher on the screen in relation to 01:12:212 (5,6) - would make more sense. Also increase distance space, to put more emphasis on this note.

oko's Insane

00:01:584 (1,2,3,4) - These parts are extremely similar to WOLLEY in terms of their place on the field. I think you can add some variation here.
01:18:384 I think you should add a circle here to emphasize the finish note just like your other difficulty

Hard

00:18:041 (1,3) - I think these look a bit off if they're cramped that close to the middle. I suggest spacing them out more
01:15:641 (1) - I don't think S curve works well on this slider. Plus, it's not to emphasize a particular note or anything, so a regular shape works fine here
02:00:212 (4) - Improve blanket

Normal

00:18:041 (1,2) - Same as Hard difficulty
00:31:755 (1) - Improve blanket
00:34:498 (1) - I don't believe this had a whistle sound on other difficulties
01:14:269 (1) - Why so many anchor points. I don't think that many is needed to get an S shape

That's all, the other difficulties are pretty solid. Overall this mapset looks very close to getting bubbled/ranked. Good luck.

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-06-12T03:42:09+00:00

DahplA wrote:
Hi, DahplA here posting from Jloughman14's and DahplA's Modding Team. This is a response in regards to this request. Please be sure to vote here on how helpful our mod was.

Sorry for the wait. Exam study took priority. I understand, since I haven't been able to do anything osu related lately either thanks to having to study for exams \;A;/ Thank you for still taking the time to mod this even after all that! uwu

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Hard
00:18:041 (1,3) - I think these look a bit off if they're cramped that close to the middle. I suggest spacing them out more Changed to be less cramped while still retaining key shape
01:15:641 (1) - I don't think S curve works well on this slider. Plus, it's not to emphasize a particular note or anything, so a regular shape works fine here For here I think the current shape works well with going in the raising pitch of the vocals and in visual appearance going with the next reverse slider pointing straight up, so no change
02:00:212 (4) - Improve blanket Improved blanket
Normal
00:18:041 (1,2) - Same as Hard difficulty Changed to be less crimpled
00:31:755 (1) - Improve blanket Improved
00:34:498 (1) - I don't believe this had a whistle sound on other difficulties There was supposed to be one here on hard as well, fixed that instead.
01:14:269 (1) - Why so many anchor points. I don't think that many is needed to get an S shape Changed to a slightly different wave with less anchors

That's all, the other difficulties are pretty solid. Overall this mapset looks very close to getting bubbled/ranked. Good luck. Thank you \ : D /

UchiganeNiigata

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UchiganeNiigata 2015-06-19T05:09:00+00:00

From my modding queue

Beginner

- Not much to change here
- Interesting slider shapes though
- Might want to change the AR to a less awkward number like 1.5

Easy

- Could do AR 3 since the song is 175 bpm
- A lot of the hitsounding seems to be better on Normal rather than Soft, but if you don't agree with it, you don't have to change anything

00:07:069 (1,2,3) - Use sample set Normal for these notes or change the timing point at 00:06:726 to sampleset N:C1
00:22:155 (4) - Use sample set Normal
00:29:012 (1) - "
00:31:755 (1,2) - "
00:45:469 - Add a timing point here and change the sample set to N:C1
01:07:412 - Change timing point sampleset to N:C1
01:37:584 (1,2) - Change to sampleset Normal
01:43:069 (1) - "
01:48:555 (1) - "
01:51:298 - Change timing point sampleset to N:C1
02:02:269 - "

Normal

00:11:869 - Might want to add a timing point here and change the volume to 5% to silence the end of the spinner
00:34:498 (1) - Could add in a Clap
01:07:412 -- 01:17:698 - Might want to increase the hitsound volume for this section because the custom hitsounds are kinda hard to hear due to it blending in with the music
(Again more N over S hitsounding) 01:29:355 - Add a timing point here and make the sampleset N
01:51:298 -- 02:13:241 - More with the custom hitsounds

Hard

00:06:726 - You can use drum sample set for this section
00:20:784 - Normal sample set timing point here to 01:07:412
01:07:412 - Custoom hitsound volume (see above)
01:37:584 - Again normal sampleset
01:33:469 (4) - NC? (I'm spliting these by the pause in the vocals)
01:36:212 (6) - "
01:38:955 (4) - "
01:41:698 (6) - "
01:47:012 (6) - "
01:51:298 - Custom hitsounds volume

oko's Insane

01:07:069 (7) - Might not want to block the next note with this one
01:07:412 - Use custom hitsounds like the previous diffs?
02:12:898 (4,5,6) - Bit of an awkward read with the skin

Overall I don't see to many things to actually change, the hitsounds don't actually need to be changed; I just feel like it sounds better in Normal over Soft.
Good luck on ranking it!

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Noffy 2015-06-22T22:50:54+00:00

UchiganeNiigata wrote:
From my modding queue

Beginner
- Not much to change here
- Interesting slider shapes though
- Might want to change the AR to a less awkward number like 1.5 Okay
Easy
- Could do AR 3 since the song is 175 bpm Done-did
- A lot of the hitsounding seems to be better on Normal rather than Soft, but if you don't agree with it, you don't have to change anything I disagree that the normal set works better in these cases so no change-o

00:07:069 (1,2,3) - Use sample set Normal for these notes or change the timing point at 00:06:726 to sampleset N:C1
00:22:155 (4) - Use sample set Normal
00:29:012 (1) - "
00:31:755 (1,2) - "
00:45:469 - Add a timing point here and change the sample set to N:C1
01:07:412 - Change timing point sampleset to N:C1
01:37:584 (1,2) - Change to sampleset Normal
01:43:069 (1) - "
01:48:555 (1) - "
01:51:298 - Change timing point sampleset to N:C1
02:02:269 - "
Normal
00:11:869 - Might want to add a timing point here and change the volume to 5% to silence the end of the spinner Fixed this
00:34:498 (1) - Could add in a Clap I hope you mean to the end because that's what it is now
01:07:412 -- 01:17:698 - Might want to increase the hitsound volume for this section because the custom hitsounds are kinda hard to hear due to it blending in with the music I wasn't sure about that possibility until now, so fixed
(Again more N over S hitsounding) 01:29:355 - Add a timing point here and make the sampleset N Will leave as is
01:51:298 -- 02:13:241 - More with the custom hitsounds Oki
Hard
00:06:726 - You can use drum sample set for this section This section already uses the drum sampleset for the additions/claps
00:20:784 - Normal sample set timing point here to 01:07:412 Since it's made to go with the changes in the sets used for additional hitsounds no change
01:07:412 - Custoom hitsound volume (see above) Seen and fixed as above
01:37:584 - Again normal sampleset No change
01:33:469 (4) - NC? (I'm spliting these by the pause in the vocals) I can see why you would suggest this, but I don't think the pause is significant enough to warrant an NC these occasions when it doesn't in previous others, and the combos would end up very short if I did this.
01:36:212 (6) - "
01:38:955 (4) - "
01:41:698 (6) - "
01:47:012 (6) - "
01:51:298 - Custom hitsounds volume Fixedsu
_______________________________________________________________________________

Overall I don't see to many things to actually change, the hitsounds don't actually need to be changed; I just feel like it sounds better in Normal over Soft.
Good luck on ranking it! Thankyou!

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2015-06-22T23:25:07+00:00

@UchiganeNiigata the first 2 points have either been fixed or are just that i hitsounded my diff on my own so them being different is uhh intended
fixed the reading thing because the circles were hiding the repeat arrow and that's unrankable lel oops
@DahplA for your first suggestion: uhh that's the point
the 2nd one has been done

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Okoratu 2015-09-01T20:40:05+00:00

ok so im at about 80% of the mp3 and got to go until like 90% and so far i can say we will need to keep the other diff and i'll try to fix that up after i finish this one because this one is more intense ? idk it's star rating and concept would destroy spread if we removed the other one though xd

ye

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-Lemons

219 posts

Joined July 2012

-Lemons 2015-09-06T21:30:39+00:00

Just stopping by to let you know the new wolley and the old wolley diff that oko touched up are phenomenal, have a star <3

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2015-09-07T03:50:37+00:00

ayy lmao i didn't do anything to the old wolley yet i accidentally made the new one an Extra aklsdj;f;asd~

thanks though xDDD

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oko's Another

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Title:YELLOW TRICK
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Tags:vocaloid rin len kagamine 融合電波 Yuugou Denpa 7:24 Akira Kenji 輝 naoyan Okoratu
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Another replaces Insane^Yellow

Last edited by Okoratu 2015-10-24T22:23:58+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2015-10-23T00:30:05+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
has potential i think, but hard & below still needs plenty of work. ill put a star for now

next time when u want me to recheck u better make me a dog

and then he got kicked, i am still remapping one diff and dorothy is semi-afk xD

remapped Insane too

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Noffy

Nomination Assessment Team

1,659 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Noffy 2015-10-24T22:57:46+00:00

Okoratu wrote:

Kibbleru wrote:
has potential i think, but hard & below still needs plenty of work. ill put a star for now

next time when u want me to recheck u better make me a dog

and then he got kicked, i am still remapping one diff and dorothy is semi-afk xD

remapped Insane too

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445,316,110612,2,0,L|429:269,3,42.5,8|8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
468,229,110955,2,0,L|470:194,6,21.25,12|0|8|0|8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
505,175,111298,6,0,P|466:166|414:136,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,106,111641,2,0,P|283:147|285:200,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,328,111984,1,8,0:0:0:0:
185,272,112155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
114,382,112326,1,4,0:0:0:0:
10,301,112498,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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339,16,113355,2,0,P|368:47|359:182,1,187.000005706787,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,237,113869,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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300,51,114726,2,0,P|271:89|314:176,1,140.25000428009,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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426,334,115412,5,8,0:0:0:0:
309,274,115584,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,354,115755,2,0,P|161:366|97:350,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
41,213,116098,5,8,0:0:0:0:
158,273,116270,1,0,0:0:0:0:
261,193,116441,2,0,P|306:181|370:197,1,93.5000028533936,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
474,235,116784,5,8,0:0:0:0:
445,107,116955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
322,60,117126,2,0,P|269:88|193:60,1,140.25000428009,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
163,20,117469,2,0,B|124:32|124:32|57:28,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
41,156,117812,2,0,B|80:144|80:144|147:148,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
258,184,118155,5,8,0:0:0:0:
226,310,118326,1,0,0:0:0:0:
351,272,118498,1,4,0:0:0:0:
258,184,118669,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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471,152,119355,1,8,0:0:0:0:
471,152,119526,6,0,P|429:159|373:134,1,93.5000028533936,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
285,52,119869,2,0,P|241:37|191:46,1,93.5000028533936,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
195,44,120126,1,8,0:0:0:0:
195,44,120212,2,0,B|206:89|206:89|193:154,1,93.5000028533936,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,209,120555,2,0,B|43:195|43:195|-5:151,1,93.5000028533936,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,163,120812,1,8,0:0:0:0:
8,163,120898,5,8,0:0:0:0:
31,291,121069,1,0,0:0:0:0:
31,291,121155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
31,291,121241,2,0,P|44:331|37:392,1,93.5000028533936,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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252,210,122269,6,0,P|245:253|256:310,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,300,122612,2,0,P|391:254|384:208,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,104,122955,2,0,B|236:121|236:121|148:100,1,140.25000428009,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
127,70,123298,2,0,P|93:93|71:153,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,270,123641,5,8,0:0:0:0:
185,317,123812,1,0,0:0:0:0:
185,128,123984,1,4,0:0:0:0:
139,250,124155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
261,204,124326,2,0,P|330:191|411:280,1,187.000005706787,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,329,124841,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,329,125012,6,0,B|250:320|250:320|191:339,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,373,125355,2,0,L|63:277,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,109,125698,2,0,P|151:157|172:265,1,140.25000428009,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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416,197,126384,5,8,0:0:0:0:
331,97,126555,1,0,0:0:0:0:
431,13,126726,2,0,P|418:47|424:109,1,93.5000028533936,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
319,185,127069,5,8,0:0:0:0:
228,89,127241,1,0,0:0:0:0:
119,161,127412,2,0,P|94:213|97:264,1,93.5000028533936,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,245,127755,5,8,0:0:0:0:
228,89,127926,1,0,0:0:0:0:
114,22,128098,2,0,P|64:80|95:142,1,140.25000428009,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
118,161,128441,2,0,B|159:156|159:156|221:171,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
326,228,128784,2,0,B|322:186|322:186|339:125,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
442,60,129126,5,8,0:0:0:0:
429,190,129298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,308,129469,1,4,0:0:0:0:
352,308,129641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,364,129812,2,0,P|241:277|209:165,1,187.000005706787,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
125,86,130326,1,8,0:0:0:0:
125,86,130498,6,0,L|25:94,1,93.5000028533936,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
78,216,130841,2,0,B|87:258|87:258|79:317,1,93.5000028533936,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,308,131098,1,8,0:0:0:0:
80,308,131184,2,0,P|122:328|171:319,1,93.5000028533936,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,190,131526,2,0,P|310:170|261:179,1,93.5000028533936,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,177,131784,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,177,131869,6,0,L|270:241,1,63.7500024318696,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
335,301,132212,2,0,L|343:373,1,63.7500024318696,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
431,361,132555,2,0,L|438:297,1,63.7500024318696,14|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
457,210,132898,2,0,L|481:217,6,15.9375006079674,8|0|8|0|8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
499,251,133241,5,4,0:2:0:0:

I did make him a dog balloon too :c
Imagine it like a moon: if a full moon is fully active, I am a sliver of a crescent.
updooted with new insane (and previous one will be preserved in the depths of my hard drive)

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2015-10-25T11:22:59+00:00

[beginner]
ok so https://osu.ppy.sh/b/741477&m=0 ranked with 14 objects in 90 seconds so i don't see how this can't go for ranked

00:18:041 (1) - why did you vary rhythm here, all the other things are 00:12:555 (1,2,2) - long sliders in this section but this one is different and i don't see any indication for why it should be
00:48:212 (2,2) - why are these differen :v

01:07:412 - tbh the kiais are more intense song wise so i think it might make sense to use more 2/1 in them because 01:07:412 (1,2,3) - for example create a lot of reading pressure on the player bewcause the song is doing astronomically much more than the map is, same applies to 2nd kiai
01:48:555 (2) - ey this looks cool but breaks consistency with about every other slider in the map, tho you could argue that it's somewhat special
02:06:384 (3) - is this a moustache

02:13:241 (3) - 01:18:384 (1) - combo
I think pewdiepie should have played this diff as he showcased osu he would have been able to comprehend it
you can also try to write a tutorial over the video as a storyboard for this diff, that would be funny to see.
E.g. complete beginners that have not yet played the tutorial could use a short text about "click, hold and follow this slider", or "wait until the approachcircle has closed in on the circle and then click it on time"
that would be funny

[easy]
~~this diff would greatly benefit from slidertick hitsounding because it's density and hitsounding right now sound weird due to your rhythm choice~~
actually this diff would benefit from less random hitsounding, the song for example does claps at 00:15:641 - 00:16:326 - also called 2,4 clap pattern and you sometimes do claps on 00:15:298 - 00:15:984 - which would be 1,3 by that logic but in combination these 2 things just sound stupid and have potential to confuse people, so i would either
a) rework hitsounding to actually do something fitting for most of this
b) rework the sounds i map so that my hitsounding fits the song
00:01:584 (1,2,1,2,3) - should be a bit more dense than beginner i think
rhythm choices are aa bit strangely inconsistent, my main problem here are things like 00:13:926 (2,4) - etc because they end in beats that would usually start new parts, because i think 00:15:298 - 00:18:041 - 00:20:784 - a re so important that even an easy player should be required to click them i'd suggest http://puu.sh/kWSuu/1acf9ef13b.jpg for this and similar parts, because it might be more predictable play-feedback wise
01:11:526 (2) - i think that would be more intuitive as 2 1/1 sliders because of the way vocals do just that 02:06:384 (2,3) - o h
01:43:069 (1) - this one doesn't make sense with about every slider in this diff and additionally with every other slider in beginner

tbh the rhythgm you chose to represent this rather constant song are everything but constant to the point where i wonder if that's intentional or inexperience, i'd try to keep the parts within themselves consistent so that they are easily predictable for newbies, e.g.
00:23:526 - to 00:34:498 - should be consistent within itself because it's very regular in terms of structure and so is 00:45:469 - to 00:56:441 - but in terms of structure these 2 parts are not that consistent within themselves in the map and thus could represent this constant song better imo
this applies to about everything so i can't really pinpoint anything and say "this is a problem because ..." because i think that most part do have the same problem so i tried to outline that here

[normal]
holy shit suddenly most things are consistent why are easy and beginner so different in that regard ooo
00:49:584 (3,4,5) - this is pretty counter-intuitive because 00:24:898 (3,4) - 00:27:641 (3,4) - 00:52:326 (3,4) - don't do it and this is the only one kinda ~breaking~ the system
i love the way sv changes for kiai it's so intuitive to play
01:32:784 (2,4) - why are these different from 01:30:041 (2,4) -
01:07:412 (1) - remember what i told you for 01:51:298 (1) - aaand how using a lower distance for it may make for a better transition into higher sv?
mmm sick diff

[hard]
00:06:726 - the constant drum hitclap that starts here sounds real loud and annoying

other than that the diff is mostly fine but due to the amount of 1/2 it uses in comparison to normal i think you should consider toning down a few of the 5x click patterns
and 02:12:555 (3) - blanket so off that it's lol
01:47:012 (6,7) - should be an 1/2 slider i think because vocal is topping a bit
i think on the level of visual appearance your Soleil diff is wayyyy on a different level, but getting this diff up to the same level would essentially telling you to remap so uhh i guess do whatever you think is better fo how you want this set to be

and
lastly no kds i got something for doing something here about a year ago or so xd

Noffy

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Noffy 2015-10-27T01:32:02+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
[beginner]
ok so https://osu.ppy.sh/b/741477&m=0 ranked with 14 objects in 90 seconds so i don't see how this can't go for ranked Yes agree I agree will add to evidence box wait what the heck that mapset actually ranked with all those diffs holy

00:18:041 (1) - why did you vary rhythm here, all the other things are 00:12:555 (1,2,2) - long sliders in this section but this one is different and i don't see any indication for why it should be M-magic- I need mi some time travel to go ask 2014 dorothy hold on
00:48:212 (2,2) - why are these differen :v ;v; time machine where is

01:07:412 - tbh the kiais are more intense song wise so i think it might make sense to use more 2/1 in them because 01:07:412 (1,2,3) - for example create a lot of reading pressure on the player bewcause the song is doing astronomically much more than the map is, same applies to 2nd kiai revised for this very verry carefully
01:48:555 (2) - ey this looks cool but breaks consistency with about every other slider in the map, tho you could argue that it's somewhat special I believe this slider deserves to be slightly different from other sliders in this map as the last slider before the final double-kiai, it's difference acting as what is actually sometimes an effective warning to ensure super beginner friendly levels of beginner, i.e: test subject number 2 (aka random highschool student) "what is this slider dorothy why is it longer and shaped differently is something gonna happen is it gonna go faster or smth" as part of one of many studies on beginnermappingisms ~~tho most tests were to figure out how slow would be slow enough~~
02:06:384 (3) - is this a moustache yes but will revise to make a pretty 'stache

02:13:241 (3) - 01:18:384 (1) - combo combo'd
I think pewdiepie should have played this diff as he showcased osu he would have been able to comprehend it Poor pewds everything was TOOO FAST for him
you can also try to write a tutorial over the video as a storyboard for this diff, that would be funny to see. hmm...
E.g. complete beginners that have not yet played the tutorial could use a short text about "click, hold and follow this slider", or "wait until the approachcircle has closed in on the circle and then click it on time"
that would be funny I'm gonna think about this xD

[easy]
I'll edit in a proper reply for this easy later I swears after I play 1000 easies first so I can channel the easy be the easy and don't accidentally make it too hard in fixing it up especially since fixing the inconsistency issues will end up being pretty much a remap but for now since I applied all the others I'll go ahead and reply before I accidentally lose my reply aaaa

~~this diff would greatly benefit from slidertick hitsounding because it's density and hitsounding right now sound weird due to your rhythm choice~~
actually this diff would benefit from less random hitsounding, the song for example does claps at 00:15:641 - 00:16:326 - also called 2,4 clap pattern and you sometimes do claps on 00:15:298 - 00:15:984 - which would be 1,3 by that logic but in combination these 2 things just sound stupid and have potential to confuse people, so i would either
a) rework hitsounding to actually do something fitting for most of this
b) rework the sounds i map so that my hitsounding fits the song
00:01:584 (1,2,1,2,3) - should be a bit more dense than beginner i think
rhythm choices are aa bit strangely inconsistent, my main problem here are things like 00:13:926 (2,4) - etc because they end in beats that would usually start new parts, because i think 00:15:298 - 00:18:041 - 00:20:784 - a re so important that even an easy player should be required to click them i'd suggest http://puu.sh/kWSuu/1acf9ef13b.jpg for this and similar parts, because it might be more predictable play-feedback wise
01:11:526 (2) - i think that would be more intuitive as 2 1/1 sliders because of the way vocals do just that 02:06:384 (2,3) - o h
01:43:069 (1) - this one doesn't make sense with about every slider in this diff and additionally with every other slider in beginner

tbh the rhythgm you chose to represent this rather constant song are everything but constant to the point where i wonder if that's intentional or inexperience how about both, i'd try to keep the parts within themselves consistent so that they are easily predictable for newbies, e.g.
00:23:526 - to 00:34:498 - should be consistent within itself because it's very regular in terms of structure and so is 00:45:469 - to 00:56:441 - but in terms of structure these 2 parts are not that consistent within themselves in the map and thus could represent this constant song better imo
this applies to about everything so i can't really pinpoint anything and say "this is a problem because ..." because i think that most part do have the same problem so i tried to outline that here

[normal]
holy shit suddenly most things are consistent why are easy and beginner so different in that regard ooo because easy is often found with little issue and beginner unloved while normal was modded enough for even a baka like me to make it consistent :c
00:49:584 (3,4,5) - this is pretty counter-intuitive because 00:24:898 (3,4) - 00:27:641 (3,4) - 00:52:326 (3,4) - don't do it and this is the only one kinda ~breaking~ the system It was born wishing to be unique and it shall die wishing to be unique (but a dream unattainable)
i love the way sv changes for kiai it's so intuitive to play Yes good
01:32:784 (2,4) - why are these different from 01:30:041 (2,4) - It seemed like a good idea at the time but no longer so shall change
01:07:412 (1) - remember what i told you for 01:51:298 (1) - aaand how using a lower distance for it may make for a better transition into higher sv? goodness I remember this oh my goodness that's what I was forgetting that was bothering me soso long and I could never figure out why aa
mmm sick diff yeeeey

[hard]
00:06:726 - the constant drum hitclap that starts here sounds real loud and annoying will make less loud if that works
other than that the diff is mostly fine but due to the amount of 1/2 it uses in comparison to normal i think you should consider toning down a few of the 5x click patterns Will consider but- m, the 5x clicks seem alright to me in comparison to the harder parts of normal ya
and 02:12:555 (3) - blanket so off that it's lol Laughter is good for the soul but I'll fix.
01:47:012 (6,7) - should be an 1/2 slider i think because vocal is topping a bit Considered and I see what you mean but imo it doesn't fit quite right to have a 1/2 slider there, especially after the expectation made of having a click on that white tick with this being the 8th repetition of the same pattern (and the only one slightly different in the actual song for whatever reason)
i think on the level of visual appearance your Soleil diff is wayyyy on a different level, but getting this diff up to the same level would essentially telling you to remap so uhh i guess do whatever you think is better fo how you want this set to be Soleil is meant to be super elegant and gorgeous while yellow trick is cute and adorable (hopefully) if that makes any sense so I think putting it on the same level in the same way would be- oh good lord I'm personifying maps I've mapped save me.

and
lastly no kds i got something for doing something here about a year ago or so xd Oki xd

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2015-11-11T18:21:48+00:00

some small suggestions for okoratu

[oko's Insane]

01:38:612 (5,1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/lhOoC.jpg something like this might feel better. it emphasize the three white ticks from 01:38:612 - a bit better, instead of a linear movement.
02:08:784 (5) - remove clap add finish, maybe
02:12:555 (3,4,1) - http://puu.sh/lhOQk.jpg ?? to keep same symmetrical movement like 02:11:869 (1,2) - . current direction on 02:12:898 (4,1) - feels kinda of weird.

[oko's Another]

00:23:184 (10) - rotate 13 on selection center? it gives the whole pattern some kind of growing horizontally movement. fits nmice with the synth
01:38:398 (6) - snapped to wrong beat, also add clap+finish
02:08:784 (5) - i guess the hitsound on this is intentional then. still find it kinda strange
02:12:212 (2,3) - ctrl+g individually? or just 02:12:212 (2) - ..... or just 02:12:555 (3) -

[WOLLEY]

00:16:669 (1) - try ctrl+g this and stack 00:16:584 (9) - on new sliderhead. and adjust 00:17:012 (2) - so comes from 00:16:669 (1) - better. I think it makes some coolo circular flow
00:22:841 (9,10,11,12,13,1) - http://puu.sh/lhQbg.jpg? just stream seems kinda lame, especially since you had kickslider pattern in Another for the synths.
02:11:869 (1,2) - unsnapped sliderends

Ayyri

Ayyri 2016-09-10T00:47:49+00:00

HYPE

HYPE

HYPE

LET'S GO BOIS

Noffy

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Noffy 2016-09-10T00:48:39+00:00

Ayyri wrote:
HYPE

HYPE

HYPE

LET'S GO BOIS

small crying noises

Lost The Lights

566 posts

Joined December 2011

Lost The Lights 2016-09-10T00:48:44+00:00

Ayyri wrote:
HYPE

HYPE

HYPE

LET'S GO BOIS

H Y P E I N T E N S I F I E S

Noffy

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Noffy 2016-09-10T00:49:01+00:00

Lost The Lights wrote:
Ayyri wrote:
HYPE

HYPE

HYPE

LET'S GO BOIS
H Y P E I N T E N S I F I E S

crying noises grow louder

Ayyri

Ayyri 2016-09-10T00:49:28+00:00

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SO LONG

YES

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-09-10T01:00:43+00:00

i should provide the updates + answers for that mod

Ayyri

Ayyri 2016-09-10T01:06:11+00:00

how high were you when you made this denne

~

polka

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polka 2016-09-10T03:53:58+00:00

Its back <3

Ayyri

Ayyri 2016-09-10T17:29:43+00:00

ok hi doro

[Easy]

01:40:326 - and 01:41:698 - Center these on the y-axis. ~~Because I know how much you like to make things even.~~
02:11:869 - This slider could be improved to not be so scrunched up at the end, but still keep it's original shape. Just looks a bit cramped as is.

[Normal]

00:18:041 - and 00:18:726 - These sliders should be the same, since it's a symmetrical pattern. ~~Just fix the Ctrl+G stuff you mentioned via VC.~~
01:07:412 - and 01:08:098 - Like I told you via VC, this flow is really weird. Especially for a Normal.
01:09:469 - This slider looks overly tight/scrunched for the flow that's occurring here.
00:19:412 - , 00:20:441 - , 00:20:784 - , and 00:21:469 - Weird blankets here.
00:22:155 - Blanket could be improved.
01:51:298 - and 01:51:984 - Unlike at 01:07:412 - and 01:08:098 - you did a better job of having this top down flow pattern. Good job!
02:11:869 - Snail.

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00:10:155 - to 00:11:012 - I'm glad you followed my previous suggestion here.

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